Testing Refugium Part II: What really happened and what's next?

Testing Refugium Part II: What really happened and what's next? | BRStv Investigates

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7 жыл бұрын

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Today on BRStv, we have a brand new episode for our series, BRStv Investigates. In this series we explore popular reefing theories, products, methods, and what the manuals are missing, with a focus on putting them to the test!
We were very surprised and pleased with the final results of the Chaeto test and Ryan shares some of the highlights. We found that Chaeto can, not only, remove a significant amount of nutrients but may actually be capable of being the primary source of nutrient reduction for the entire tank!
In this episode, we also review the PAR and PUR results for each of the lights we used in test phase one, as well as the final weights of each ball of Chaeto's growth.
So follow along as we close out the first phase of the Chaeto test and preview what's coming up in the next test, as we try to help you make reefing a bit more fun and easy!
As always, there’s much more to investigate as we continue this series, so watch for future episodes where we put Pukani rock through the curing process test and TONS more!
See you next time on BRStv Investigates !
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@tonysnell1286 7 жыл бұрын

Yo. This is the best thing to happen to reefing. The ability to use equipment like brs has at its disposal to better benifit the consumer is simply amazing! The testing is endless. Good job BRS. I eagerly await future investigations!

@karlpalm8860 6 жыл бұрын

I have to say that your methodology and reporting are outstanding! I hold two college degrees in life and health sciences. To see an experiment of this level performed for hobbyist benefit is very impressive. I hope you are publishing and perhaps even have an association with a department at a university. Great work! The entire reef/salt community should really appreciate all the time, effort and resources that you guys are putting into this kind of a production. As someone who has done research at a collegiate level I can tell you that this is not easy. Please keep up the outstanding work.

@biturboi6 7 жыл бұрын

You guys are killing it with your content lately. Keep it up!

@rppvt 7 жыл бұрын

Regardless of what my wife thinks, this is ridiculously interesting and informative. Props to the entire BRS crew.

@beej1254 7 жыл бұрын

I think phase 2 should still include a par38 LED bulb. These are extremely popular in the hobby and test results would greatly benefit many.

@anthonyfairthorne380 7 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video and cant wait to see the outcome from this test - hurry up 3 month!!!

@slayertx 7 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU! This is the best video / series ever! We needed someone to do this that had the resources to pull it off in a professional manor. I can't wait to see the result but the data already provided is going to be so helpful to many! Keep up the good work!

@Caramellofellow 7 жыл бұрын

Guys. Amazing episode. You have such a great formula for producing these videos. Keep up the good work! Many thanks for uploading.

@Totalballa41 7 жыл бұрын

love this!! I really enjoy the attention to detail and control over the experiment!

@zachtos2 6 жыл бұрын

Scientific process in action, very nice. So much better than the frustration of forums.

@tompage8674 3 жыл бұрын

TBH, its not really necessary in Freshwater. So much less equipment and tech required to keep water quality in check.

@daycm1977 7 жыл бұрын

Great video keep them coming. Special thanks to the BRS team for taking the time and effort to produce these videos. I look forward to every video that is released.

@peterderrick5211 7 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, love these tests as they confirm, or otherwise, the advice and comments you find all over the hobby.I was really suprised at the results and am loving the phase 2 test parameters...please keep,going!!

@crushingsnakes1972 7 жыл бұрын

Great video guys!! I was looking forward to this one and the next one.

@acesofair519 5 жыл бұрын

I know I'm late but I find it amazing and would like to say thank you for all the time, money, and effort you put towards our hobby!

@PaintflowException 7 жыл бұрын

love the content! keep up the great work! I can't wait to see the results! I'm currently using this in my fuge and it seems to be performing how I would expect.

@urbanrat84 7 жыл бұрын

Brilliant test guys - you've convinced me to include the chaeto I have on hand in my new nano now, I was going to leave it out

@bigbowlowrong4694 5 жыл бұрын

Man I wish there was a freshwater equivalent of this channel. To be honest it amazes me there isn't one.

@Cliffepoos 7 жыл бұрын

Confirms what I thought. Good to know for certain though. Looking forward to the next stage and await the results with interest.

@kAi-ub8hi 7 жыл бұрын

cant wait for the result updates. informative videos,keep it up!

@LucidComposureUk 7 жыл бұрын

Oh how you made my week with this video! What a brilliantly executed test! BRS are putting the science to this hobby that is really going to evolve it and change it forever!

@kscott8464 7 жыл бұрын

This is really good stuff-Please keep going with these.

@edson.jerez1982 7 жыл бұрын

thank you for the time and effort you are putting into it!

@hynos323 7 жыл бұрын

BRS, thank you so much for putting in so much time and effort in your videos. I really enjoy them and it has made my tanks really thrive.

@PrestigeReef 7 жыл бұрын

These results far exceeded my expectations, I always thought it would work to some extent but never that much. Great work guys you are really changing how we view our tanks. I love these test videos :) x

@frankcolumbo4559 7 жыл бұрын

Look forward to these guys videos as much as yours! World traveler Miss Saltwater - welcome home!

@firsttimereefertv1588 7 жыл бұрын

Coming from a First time reefer your content for me is priceless! Thank you for all your info and hard work to make things much easier for me!! 👏👏👏

@BaconSniffer578 7 жыл бұрын

Amazing video guys! Your best yet I'd say

@johngayle2772 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ryan for doing this study really informative and shows definitively any type of fuge is highly beneficial

@gbj6581 7 жыл бұрын

Great video thank you. Stellar job as usual! This topic is really helpful as sometimes we implement these things and not know their value.

@jcfaur77 7 жыл бұрын

awesome video. can't wait for phase two.

@danx8955 7 жыл бұрын

BRS, this is awesome. Keep up the good work!

@VascoFL 7 жыл бұрын

Absolutely great and valuable video. You obviously put an enormous amount of time into your channel. The result is topnotch content for us reefers. Thank you BRSTV!

@corbinsexcellentadventures14 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for dedicating the resources that you do to these experiments. Your content is amazing and the scientific approach that you guys take really enhances the quality of the experiments. I think hands down, you guys are the best source of unbiased information in the hobby right now.

@wokest118 7 жыл бұрын

We appreciate the awesome content! Love shopping at BRS!

@tomclark7440 7 жыл бұрын

Great job! I believe your having major impact on the hobby, not just giving us more knowledge on how to maintain our tanks but your saving marine life in the process!

@jyoung11 3 жыл бұрын

Yet another reason why BRS is my go-to dry goods store! Well done guys

@preauxtip 7 жыл бұрын

Nice methodology. I like that you started with as few variables as possible before scaling up to more real world tests. I'd love to see more tests on common reef setups later on. Skimmers, mechanical filtration, water change schedules, deep sand beds, turf scrubbers, and other such things.

@asingh7516 7 жыл бұрын

brs tv is the most important blessing to reef hobby. You guys don't try to sell but give our the right information and let people know what they want (without pushing any products)

@Fordemups 7 жыл бұрын

Best reeling vids by miles. Please don't ever stop 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@ryanbilalis247 7 жыл бұрын

Brilliant guys! I currently don't have a refugium, and have battled for years with high nitrate and phosphate. Very keen to see the results!

@tsurro8086 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, great stuff to know, I thought so but now it's certain!!

@douglassmith4403 7 жыл бұрын

All I have to say is wow. BRStv this was an awesome video. I have a lot of questions on a refugium being useful except for a pod farm but this is very compelling information. Also the light testing is very informative. I cannot afford a kessil for a fuge but I now know I need a better light for my fuge. Thank you so much! Made my first purchase from BRS this week too. You earned my business guys!

@kylerogers9046 7 жыл бұрын

really looking forward to the results of the new test!

@TheNeers71 7 жыл бұрын

So glad BRStv is here when I finally get into salt water. Very helpful in setting up my RO as well. Thank you so much for the incredible content!

@martijnvanbeek4387 7 жыл бұрын

Superb testing being made public, guys!

@tbird267 7 жыл бұрын

I'm sure it's been said but good on you Ryan for improving the quality of your videos over the years and your presentation skills. Its crazy to see the difference from then to now

@hammerheadreefs81 7 жыл бұрын

Huge difference. BRS puts out some of my favorite content

@MrJaman0083 6 жыл бұрын

That “$20” 19 watt led is putting up some good numbers, seems highly under rated.

@mrocheleau 7 жыл бұрын

can't wait for phase 2 awsome Ryan really helpful for a beginner

@ussj4brolli 7 жыл бұрын

You and your team are fantastic!

@anuar6605 7 жыл бұрын

thanks ryan, can't wait for the results

@Kanoa440 7 жыл бұрын

I'm totally geeking out on your test! I love it! You guys are like Myth Busters but only useful. I would love to see a test comparing a refugium, algae scrubber, mangroves, and maybe biopellets.

@luisnajera1791 7 жыл бұрын

woow amazing !!! love these kind of videos

@LouieVelasquez 7 жыл бұрын

Outstanding test and video series. I've been running the H350 after switching from the shop light setup and can attest to the absolute depletion of Nitrate in my system (well as far as the Red Sea Pro Nitrate test shows). I just pruned a sizable ball of Chaeto from the fuge this morning and noticed it has the same light green, almost Easter grass looking color and texture. Now I'm trying to raise my Nitrates in the system which is a new problem to solve. Go figure... Keep the videos coming, I appreciate the science/chemistry aspect of reef keeping and your videos make Fridays that much more fun.

@JordanCataldo65 7 жыл бұрын

So far, its looking like spending the extra money plumbing a fuge into my new setup is gonna pay off! looking forward to more videos on the subject!

@sunnygoold9449 5 жыл бұрын

I think this is my 4th time watching this and in relation to the latest BRS/WWC Hybrid series looking back on this is SUPER interesting. I think now that there seems consenus that zero phosphates and nitrates are not a good thing reefers may more seriously consider the cheaper lights. One important thing to note though is the difference in pH - with the Kessil generating a seriously higher pH. Going back to BRS/WWC hybrid with heavy in / heavy out apparently leading to benefits, I think the benefits or a good fuge light are now much more relevant as it seems you get the benefits of both allowing higher nutrient import as well as higher pH at night. This video is amazing and should be mandatory for any reefer considering a fuge (or reactor). It's also the first time I noticed Ryan's jeans ;)

@mbaker1295 7 жыл бұрын

awesome results, I am glad my expectations of chaeto were ultimately what phase one seemed to provide. natural filtration is by far my favorite, mother nature does it best

@battyjoe 7 жыл бұрын

Great job Ryan, I love the videos and all my reefing knowledge is built on the back of your great series. I'm looking forward to seeing the long term results of this. Im intending to move to a Red Sea peninsula 650 in a few months from a 350, and have a decent fuge in it with the Kessil if it works well with your results.

@patrickhudson109 7 жыл бұрын

The attempt to make this as scientific as possible is much appreciated. This hobby needs much more of this kind of testing to improve it's chances of success. The results will surely shed light on the mysteries of what's happening in our real oceans and could impact the health of our planet. So there ya go. The world needs you to get this right! No pressure.

@anthonymoreno894 7 жыл бұрын

This series is my favorite.

@MySimpleReef 7 жыл бұрын

guys nice work you guys are the best no question!!!

@vector824 7 жыл бұрын

"I'd almost call it fluffy" sounds like a new t-shirt to me. Keep up these awesome videos!

@fuffoon 7 жыл бұрын

This is an incredibly good piece of aquarium science.

@antoniomarroquin3649 5 жыл бұрын

All this info ... totally Impressive

@Amphiron 7 жыл бұрын

Great video! now I need to find some chaeto.

@TheDashCave 7 жыл бұрын

You guys are a huge resource to the community. :bow:

@fabianlituma 7 жыл бұрын

Looks awesome! I was thinking of going with the a80 on my 125 gal, but seems you guys sold me on the h380

@arturreef8117 7 жыл бұрын

You guys should compare a fuge vs algae scrubber, with the same lights.

@evaneversole8546 7 жыл бұрын

Arthur Asatrjan algae reactor vs scrubber

@arturreef8117 7 жыл бұрын

BulkReefSupplyCom yessssssss

@SantaMonicaFiltration 7 жыл бұрын

This is a tough one. Scrubbers do normally kill chaeto and other macros, but trying to use the same light for both, in a test, would really weaken a scrubber because a scrubber's advantage is more in the other design components, and their efficiency would be reduced in order to accommodate the fuge light. That's the point of a scrubber: refine the area, attachment, flow, light, etc to maximize photosynthesis (filtering). And upflow scrubbers refine further by using bubbles to deliver CO2 at zero-distance to the algae cells. But this also might be compromised by trying to use a fuge light.

@ohadzic6377 6 жыл бұрын

I love what you guys are doing. I had ats and in my opinion it was superior to any protein skimmer. Pods loved it too

@sterbanorris9421 6 жыл бұрын

Yes definitely I must know which is more efficient b4 I start another tank

@yasseraloy4178 7 жыл бұрын

I'm planning to take the gfo reactor off line with just my algae scrubber for like a month and test to see what happens but so far with what I described below I'm having Great 👍 RESULTS!!! And guys keep it up; you guys are the best

@ShilpanGPatel 7 жыл бұрын

This explains why my GFO hasn't needed to be changed for 8 months....it must've run out the the chaeto took over! Awesome video guys

@Steve-lu1my 7 жыл бұрын

I love the progression of your testing methods. If you had more replicates, it would definitely be worth publishing in a peer review journal.

@michaellawton6043 7 жыл бұрын

Amazing video. I can tell you that I run a fuge in my 70 gal reef tank with miracle mud and chaeto and I do not use my skimmer and my phosphates are 0.00 with Hanna and nitrates are around 10ppm. I have a small clean up crew 3 turbo snails and 2 shrimp. 10 fish and 30+ corals water is super clear. I am a believer in the fuge and love the effectiveness of it. I also use gfo/carbon reactor which helps. You guys are on the right path with this FAQ. My mandarins feast on the pods that are produced in the fuge as well. I use a strong return pump, which I think is a contributing factor to the success. Thanks for these videos. They are awesome!

@joshuaducharme5170 2 жыл бұрын

You guys are a blessing from the reef Gods!

@ZokomoTV 7 жыл бұрын

Those are some compelling results! Now I need to find a high PUR LED strip for my biocube's chamber 2 refugium

@michaelhack5951 7 жыл бұрын

some brilliant content coming from you guys at the moment. would love to see how a cheap diy chaeto reactor would perform as well, what would the expectation be for this?

@FenderSchonJPX 7 жыл бұрын

Ughhhhhh. THREE MONTHS!!! Killing me Can't wait to see. Phase one was incredibly impressive this next one will be a solid real world test.

@Thehobbyeast 7 жыл бұрын

Ryan seriously a good video which is much more advance.

@freddy-b 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks, i have just started a refugium and now i know i have to get a better lightning. I have caulerpa and cheato and need stronger or better (in color) light.

@siwiggiddiful 7 жыл бұрын

love your videos!

@racecarsandreeftanks9660 7 жыл бұрын

After some research I learned the red and blue spectrum was perfect for my cheato refugium. I'm very excited that your results were them same. Going to use my seneye to check the pur of my refugium light. Thanks brs for another great informational video.

@gocguitars 6 жыл бұрын

AJ Shrek i am running an aquaclear70 filter/refugium chaeto top water level with only actinic blue led.. do you think it will work?

@duckslinger999 7 жыл бұрын

You guys need to pay Ryan more, he can't even afford a full pair of jeans. Poor guy. Great vid.

@chuckschillingvideos 7 жыл бұрын

Very interesting results, and in a cost-is-no-object test, yes the Kessil H380 is the clear choice; however, few of us really get to entertain the cost-is-no-object scenario and must make difficult choices as to the best way to spend our reefkeeping hobby dollars. For me, and I suspect many others, the answer does not lie in $300 fuge grow lights.

@EdwinCaucu 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this review. Would you be able to provide same review with UFO lights? Thanks!

@salohcind3349 4 жыл бұрын

Good idea for a video. We should find out if chaetomorpha can correct different N:P ratios.

@franklinmichael671 7 жыл бұрын

I'm loving these experiments, why don't more people do this kind of stuff.

@fermentedhiker 7 жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to have run the test with a Par38 LED that was specific for plant growth(just red and blue LEDS) to see if the increased PUR is enough to make a difference.

@Val_Halla777 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It’s a bit suspect that they didn’t use a luxbird Par38 grow light instead.

@reefholic6110 2 жыл бұрын

This is awesome

@trevortheengineer2920 3 жыл бұрын

I live for this stuff.

@drsalomon123 7 жыл бұрын

I setup a chaeto reactor using red blue led flexible striplights for 20 bucks and a repurposed GFO reactor. All sides of the chaeto get exposed to intense light but it does not tumble. Flow is controlled by a ball valve. I wonder how important tumbling is beyond exposing surfaces to light. If I have upwelling flow through the chaeto and intense light on all sides, will I get the same growth as spinning ball of chaeto under kesil? Here is what I used: Toogod Full Spectrum 16.4ft/5m 5050 Waterproof LED Strip Plant Growing Light Red Blue 4:1 for Aquarium Greenhouse Hydroponic Pant Garden Flowers Veg Grow Light,DC12V

@ogreeftanks9398 7 жыл бұрын

Disappointed that the AquaFuge 2 HOB is not included in phase 2 as that is what is on my tank. Really like this video. Thanks.

@aduquegom 7 жыл бұрын

Great video as always! For the budget DIY people out there: would putting a purple gel on a fluorescent bulb work to achieve the proper light spectrum? Thanks!

@wishdrftr 7 жыл бұрын

Ok seriously though, I could watch Ryan all day. Not that I dislike RT but Ryan's personality has developed so much along the years. Fav Channel BRS is right now... and I don't even have a tank yet lol New nano videos!

@spsdominant7090 7 жыл бұрын

Any suggestions on using a kessil 360W? I run this on my fuge because I had one laying around. Should I turn it all the way to the blue or half way?

@Steve-lu1my 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the Hach DR3900 is a nice piece of equipment. It was developed mainly for fresh water waste water testing. Always check the methods against standards. The TNT tests are notoriously inaccurate, even with fresh-water testing. Most of the testing ranges actually go down to 0.2 or 0.02 mg/l not 0.00 as well. Thanks for all you guys do!

@Bluenosegrows 7 жыл бұрын

did the cheato use any reef building elements? cal/mag ect ? Great Job BRS crew .. thanks for doing this

@chloew9031 7 жыл бұрын

Hi when is the next update on this project? I'm thinking of setting a refugium up but I'm waiting for the results.

@jackwhitetron 6 жыл бұрын

AWESOME video like always. Is it smart to run fuge lights for 24 hours or should I give my algae a break?

@chris155hp 7 жыл бұрын

Awesome!!!!

@screamingchowman 7 жыл бұрын

Added chaeto in my sump this weekend (due to this video), and I'm ordering either a Kessil H80 or a H380. I have a 225G mixed reef with a Trigger Systems Emerald 36. Question, I'd like this to be successful, so between the two lights; is there a significant difference? Thanks for these videos, I've watched them all, great stuff.