Testing the Tester ⚡️ SMD AMM-1 Audio Multimeter vs. Fluke375 Clamp + B2 Audio Rage 2500 Amplifier

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23 күн бұрын

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Just in case you didn't know, SMD D'Amore Engineering tools are VERY accurate. The AMM-1 has been out for over 10 years and is a favorite of many including myself for a reason. The DD-1 is Patented and have almost sold 30,000 units! That is NOT including all the DD-1 HV, DD-1+, CC-1, IMSG and any of the LED meters. We ONLY want to make products we know you will love because we love them too! All of the tools are available everywhere but they always sell out fast. Get yours while you can. Autographed units are available only at www.wccaraudio.com Thanks for watching if you did!
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@meade916 21 күн бұрын

Just in case you didn't know, SMD D'Amore Engineering tools are VERY accurate. The AMM-1 has been out for over 10 years and is a favorite of many including myself for a reason. The Standard Distortion Detector DD-1 is Patented and have almost sold 30,000 units! That is NOT including all the DD-1 HV, DD-1+, CC-1, IMSG and any of the LED meters. We ONLY want to make products we know you will love because we love them too! All of the tools are available everywhere but they always sell out fast. Get yours while you can. Autographed units are available only at www.wccaraudio.com Thanks for watching if you did!

@RomaVilla 20 күн бұрын

You got any dd-1 or cc-1 on sale or used?

@laurentmenarguez2913 20 күн бұрын

@@meade916 what is a quality brand to buy

@kevinAuman1 20 күн бұрын

Steve can you please explain to me how the SMD tool helps to set your gains (forgive me kinda new to car audio but have been wanting to buy one for a while now) so to my knowledge/understanding if you use the SMD DD1 then it sets your gains to not clip at 40hz one specific frequency so when I play a song that has a myriad of freqs how can I be sure that they're all going to be clean and not just the 40hz that it was set to? Is it just once it is set to 40hz then the rest will also be unclipped or how does that work honestly I do not know and wanted to ask before I spend the money...

@meade916 19 күн бұрын

@@kevinAuman1 this tool isn't for setting gains. The DD-1 and DD-1+ is what you would use for that. As for the frequency used, that dont really matter. It's a reference point to set the gains. You couldn't possibly set the gains with the millions of frequencies that happen during music anyway.

@shannonlamontupton4635 22 сағат бұрын

@meade916 own 3 of your meters the best thing to do not that this matters get your hands on the basshead garage BHG-WM and put all this nonsense to rest

@meade916 21 күн бұрын

signing all those units at 6:05 in the morning and already been there almost 2 hours...I always appreciate that you guys chose SMD products so I gotta make sure i get it in and earn it. My crew does the same, they are amazing!

@rickygonzales4646 21 күн бұрын

We all knew this was coming! 😂

@djkeys415s 20 күн бұрын

Yep..yuo know how steav rolls!!!! Im stansing behind my prouducts to!!!!

@TRONMAGNUM2099 21 күн бұрын

The results of the Parker the Basshead video was pretty wild. I would like to see him do what you did. Use a clamp and scopemeter to use ohms law to show the accuracy of both meters. This would also show if the cheaper watt meter accurately detected clipping. I'm not sure how much electronics Parker knows, though. I use Fluke products every day at work. If the AMM-1 has the accuracy of a Fluke clamp meter, that would explain the high cost of the meter.

@smurfeco2.358 20 күн бұрын

@TRONMAGNUM2099 I have the bass head garage meter and I never thought it was accurate to start with . I barely see 800 watts on my dd audio 9510L rated at 2500 rms and the woofer wants to come out the box I almost feel like im about to blow it . I thought I was just putting 800 watts to it . But now that I seen that video I'm probably pushing triple that to the woofer . Kinda want to get a amm1 .

@TRONMAGNUM2099 20 күн бұрын

@@AppAccess123 I emailed D'Amore engineering for the Tolerances allowed for AC volts, DC volts, and AC amps. I have precision references that I can test against. My friend owns an AMM-1 that I can test to see if it meets spec or not. My guess is that it does. Nowadays test equipment is cheap and generally accurate.

@PShizzzle 21 күн бұрын

Lemme get a chair and some popcorn 😅🍿

@P-J-W-777 21 күн бұрын

Absolutely love my DD-1+ and CC-1 and suggest them to anyone getting into car audio. I’ve even proven to multiple people that they are the more reliable choice when properly tuning. Can’t wait until I’m able to get the AMM-1 and the IM-SG+ but I don’t work on systems as a profession and due to health issues it’s taking a little time. I just defended the SMD tool lineup and D’Amore Engineering a few days ago on another KZfaq channel.

@manuelcrampton8581 20 күн бұрын

This guy is a genius for coming with this

@meade916 20 күн бұрын

I am 1/3rd of our team but the real credit and the real genius's are Tony and Juan, my partners. There is no "this guy" about it. But I know you mean well and I really appreciate it and thank you!

@SoundStream101 21 күн бұрын

Best of all Steve didn't even argue back or bash anyone , he let the meters do all the talking in his defense..totally professional! ! 💯

@Bluetahoeon30s 21 күн бұрын

I respect it 💯

@angelvip2474 20 күн бұрын

Mad respect. Crazy 2024 and folks still bashing and acting mad. Props to Steve. My meters are all still working great.

@Bluetahoeon30s 21 күн бұрын

I run smd products in my tahoe and this video Made me a fan even more.

@meade916 21 күн бұрын

thank you sir! Much appreciated.

@markbradley769 21 күн бұрын

I only wish I could ever have just one of these. Such a great tool to have in your belt

@rodolfosotelo5929 21 күн бұрын

I own the CC1 and DD1 and absolutely love them! Soon an AMM1 for my tool box coming soon.

@jchevy4067 21 күн бұрын

Fluke is the best on the market yours is dead on with the fluke you know it's top notch meter I'm saving up to purchase your products

@DakFink 21 күн бұрын

Fluke is all we ever use in Aviation and ours have to be calibrated yearly! Never seen one go bad and not pass calibration.

@BG-hs4qo 21 күн бұрын

This has to be the response from that new meter that was shown over the weekend that was compated to the smd meter

@BG-hs4qo 21 күн бұрын

Compared

@meade916 21 күн бұрын

ya, the bro's at Subs N Paws were trying to show it but they didn't use a tone generator so it's kind of all over the place (due to the beat in the music). I wanted to do a more stable comparison using the IMSG+ as my source.

@Mambas-World 21 күн бұрын

I own the amm1 the dd1 and the cc1. I will get the dd1 plus and the imsg1 . I own them because i tested them against my clamp and my scope and they were just as acurate and i didnt need to pull out clunky equipment. Im physically handicapped and the amm1 and the cc1 have been my best friends ever since. I trust the products 100 percent and havent had any stereo issues in almost 5 to 6 years since i bought these. Thanks steve and thank you mr dmaore for making my life easier. Its just so much easier in my wheel chair.

@MrShok888 20 күн бұрын

BEST TOOLS EVER! SMD FTW!

@user-tu6fq1yd8i 20 күн бұрын

When I watched those other 2 videos about your dd1 and am1 I had no doubt which of the tools was off. Everyone's a hater. If you buy something with SMD on the label your getting the best of the best. SMD stands for quality and excellence. Love everything you and your company produce. Thanks for all the amazing products.

@alanstant9356 21 күн бұрын

It's actually quite awesome to see how that sub handles and measurements of the meters, my brother.

@toolsnthings5539 21 күн бұрын

Steve great products keep the quality up. Love the B2 audio amps. When I saw your truck setup I decided to get rage 2500 also and love it.

@rubensdomm 21 күн бұрын

Excelente Test Steve, B2 lo mejor👍🏻

@zeuzlida 20 күн бұрын

So i can get a 150$ clamp meter and run the same test as the SMD ?

@meade916 20 күн бұрын

sure, if you are measuring amperage. That is what a clamp does. 🤷‍♂️

@zeuzlida 20 күн бұрын

@@meade916 So the smd just converts it for you? nice tool.

@meade916 20 күн бұрын

@@zeuzlida it does more than that it is an Audio Multimeter. Several functions.

@smurfeco2.358 20 күн бұрын

A bluetooth version of the amm1 would be sick af

@AaronBilger 20 күн бұрын

I was thinking having a clamp on it so i don't have to remove my speaker wire each time i want to test my watts on my amp during tuning.

@jvcjbl 21 күн бұрын

Hell yeah, I love my CC-1 and DD-1+.... wish the DD-1+ was signed like my CC-1 but that is just a personal preference. Accurate as hell and work without question! Can't wait to add the IMSG and the AMM-1 one day soon. Cheers!

@xeran_yt 21 күн бұрын

Thank you. This video was not needed but succeeded. Get them haters outa here 🎉

@cfmechanic 21 күн бұрын

Great stuff as always. One day i will buy these tools and dial my stuff in proper

@meade916 21 күн бұрын

there are other ways to do things that are a little cheaper. For example, learn how to set gains with an O-scope. But unlike 99.999% of the people on youtube, set the gains with the o-scope properly. It's basically the same technique the original dd-1 uses. Get good at it. Understand it. Then someday treat yourself to one of these. The DD-1 especially the DD-1+ is by far the best way to set gains but learning the fundamentals with a scope first will help you appreciate our tools so much more.

@cfmechanic 17 күн бұрын

@meade916 ya I have used snap on scanner o scope to set gains before the other mechanics were trippin

@devionstanfield507 21 күн бұрын

Yea !! Clap back Steve

@angelvip2474 20 күн бұрын

He did. The meters did all the clapping. 😂

@93jdmmike 20 күн бұрын

Nice video

@PoppaTInstall 20 күн бұрын

My guy!💪 Sometimes folks just gotta take their L.

@saschacubexyz 18 күн бұрын

👏👏great stuff👍👍

@edycalderon1282 21 күн бұрын

Exelent tools👍

@massiveviral5603 18 күн бұрын

You are covering up the real problems and flaws with this kind of videos... The real issue isn't with voltage or current measurements, but with the wattage calculation, especially when dealing with Brazilian amplifiers. Latest Subs & Paws video is excellent example.. 210A x 9V at DC input of the amplifier = 3800w+ at amplifier output.. yeah right..

@meade916 18 күн бұрын

covered up? what? LOL...there are no problems and flaws. Dude, just stop, you sound silly.

@meade916 18 күн бұрын

oh, FYI, this amp isn't Brazilian. It is rated to do between 1800 and 2kw at 2 ohms....and it did 1900 and some change. Sounds about right. This same amp did 3kw at 1ohm which is about right also. I don't need to explain anything to you. The tools do all the talking.

@massiveviral5603 18 күн бұрын

@@meade916 Latest Subs & Paws video.. How can you explain 3800w+? with 210 amperage and 9v voltage drop at the amplifier input?

@meade916 18 күн бұрын

@@massiveviral5603 It was too hard to follow what they were trying to do. It sounded louder when they ran it the 2nd time but regardless, if anything maybe there is some voltage spike happening and the AMM-1 is catching it. Those aren't the cleanest amps to begin with. Maybe Ill buy that same 3000 watt amp and test it myself and then forward it to my engineers and have them take a look as well using their Audio Precision. I personally have never had any issues like this with any of my AMM-1's and I have been using them for years.

@BassAddict91 19 күн бұрын

I figured the AMM-1 was the more accurate one. But I think the BHG meter is just more practical as far as mounting it up front to monitor your system on the go. But like the old saying goes “you get what you pay for” 🤷🏾‍♂️. If Steve was to come out with a more portable version to mount up front it would sell out over night for sure 💪🏾💪🏾. Keep Doing what you doing Steve 🔊🔊💨💨

@meade916 19 күн бұрын

our dash mountable unit has been in the works for a few years now. We just never finished it. That other meter is just another unoriginal bootleg. Nobody can ever come up with their own ideas.

@BassAddict91 19 күн бұрын

@@meade916 I agree….that’s with the entire car audio industry. It’s so many clones of everything no one beside a select few companies really pushes the envelope to stand out and be original. Love your work and content been following for years 💪🏾💪🏾. 🔊🔊💨💨

@meade916 19 күн бұрын

@@BassAddict91 thank you my bro I really appreciate you.

@Mark_5150 12 күн бұрын

@@meade916 I didn't know you invented Ohm's law, and ways to measure electrical signals, that's cool! 🤣

@meade916 8 күн бұрын

@@Mark_5150 who said I did? I never said that. We do have tools that measure all of that though and yes it is very cool. Our tools are patented. What have you done with your miserable 17 years on this planet? Nothing...lol that's cool!

@HillbillyRefrigeration 13 күн бұрын

Well I have the…. Amm-1 IM-SG+ CC-1 DD-1 I’ve used them for several years and have taken my installs to the next level. Now with that said. I use meters that are thousands of dollars in my trade. And I have used cheap ones along side of them. I have learned that some of them pick up things others don’t. Is it due to quality? Component tolerances? Or just wizardry? I don’t know but I recently had a guy come to me to figure out why he kept killing subs. Well his pocket Oscilloscope from Temu or whatever wasn’t showing the terrible square wave that mine did.. 30$ VS 800$ used. now one thing I don’t understand is will the car audio community ever not have hate? Prob not. 😂

@jRomero713 21 күн бұрын

I mean who are you gonna trust Steve (the creator of the meters and also SMD products) or people who barely started in car audio? Rhetorical question by the way. SMD for the win!

@meade916 21 күн бұрын

It isn't just me it is a full collaboration with 2 the best engineers in the business, my good friends Tony and Juan at D'Amore Engineering. We partnered up almost 15 years ago and made this all happen as a team :) thank you though I do appreciate it!

@ZoeyR86 20 күн бұрын

around 2.2ohms DC 1.75-2ohm AC lots on inductance on the coil is it an aluminum coil former ? and or a shorting ring

@Bassntahoe3428 21 күн бұрын

Professionally Handled!!! I don’t think SOME people really know what they’re doing in other videos!! You Da Man SMD!! Love your products!

@SLPEZ 20 күн бұрын

Do I set my gains on my amp for my subs first or do I set my lc2i first. I'm new to trying to do things right. Any help would be appreciated. I have the dd-1.

@roblinprasad528 20 күн бұрын

Lc2i first cause it's sets the voltage for the amp. Then you set the gain on the amp. That's how the shop did mines. Also using a lc2i.

@SLPEZ 20 күн бұрын

@roblinprasad528 thanks.

@jafeg 21 күн бұрын

Which meter would you use to gain match 3 identical sub amps ,and is it pretty close amp to amp?

@meade916 21 күн бұрын

I would use the DD-1+ because you can see the voltage reading on the screen. Or you can use the CC-1 (crossover calibrator) in "competition mode" (a special little side mode) and calibrate everything that way.

@Angel_xXx_76 21 күн бұрын

I own a DD1+ and a CC1. I purchased 2 rechargeable 9 volt lithium batteries for $13.99 off Amazon. Best upgrade to these good devices. No need to worry about having to purchase fresh batteries which I saw was a complaint. Does anyone know if these devices have firmware updates available and how to?

@DakFink 21 күн бұрын

They don’t need any firmware/software. They’re just meters. Multi-function meters that can do more than 1 measurement at a time in some cases.

@roadlife9312 20 күн бұрын

❤ my DD1

@AaronBilger 20 күн бұрын

I knew they was right on spec but i would guess if your 9 volt battery was low it might throw it off some ***Maybe***

@meade916 19 күн бұрын

nope. The 9v works till it dies.

@CHEVYK10 20 күн бұрын

DD1 + CC1 For the win

@laurentmenarguez2913 20 күн бұрын

Any opinions on ds18. Amps ?

@meade916 18 күн бұрын

you will soon see.... #SMD

@Contact_Info 9 күн бұрын

Hooligan I like @meade916

@2Deep7880 21 күн бұрын

I wouldn't tune any amp without my DD-1 or my CC-1, money well spent in my opinion...

@rc-t3k 20 күн бұрын

Yo, your tools are dope and do work precisely as intended and perfectly.

@mieber87 20 күн бұрын

Die SMD Werkzeuge sind gut gemacht und mit Sicherheit wohl durchdacht. Aber das Kabel mit dem Poti könnte besser sein indem man das mit zwei Halbschalen einfasst um ein Griffstück zu erzeugen! Aber mal ehrlich, das wäre das einzige was ich machen würde. Echt geiles Zeug 👌🏻👍🏻

@meade916 20 күн бұрын

the potentiometer is just a little something I rigged up so I can have voltage control when using the IMSG as a source. That is not a commercial product, just personal use. Although it should be and might soon! thanks!

@neilholland4427 20 күн бұрын

Well that solved it lol

@gladboy7722 21 күн бұрын

Questions answered...💯💯💯

@brandonc5965 21 күн бұрын

I've used the smd dd1 already for tuning it 💪

@Mani-aX 21 күн бұрын

for what it's worth I am glad to see Steve back his product up. It works perfectly. Now for the other video we are all referring to... I don't think it was his (KZfaqr's) fault but maybe some faulty hardware from the other manufacturer. but as Steve has done here, we would need to see the clamp test with the amperage difference. Thanks for providing this video Steve!

@marcovaldovinos5009 21 күн бұрын

If you have any old DD1 laying around let me kno 😅

@joeb5053 20 күн бұрын

If you know than you know

@larrywright7090 18 күн бұрын

You're the man Steve, and you always hit hard in the end. SMD 4 THE WIN 🎉🎉❤

@mikesilverthorn911 20 күн бұрын

I know why you made this. Thanks for making this. People jump to conclusions without letting the other party defend themselves. Very childish. My meter works great! Thanks Steve!

@meade916 19 күн бұрын

i am not allowed to defend myself anymore. Plus I don't have all week to go back and forth with these creepy little disgruntled momma's boys who still live at home and have nothing better to do. Most of them have no car and no system to put one in so how they can be so vile and cowardly in the things they say is just astounding to me. I guess when you are unemployed and live at home in your childhood bedroom, you have nothing better to do all day.

@jadsholloway 21 күн бұрын

Moral of the story if you suck at math and can’t understand Ohms Law buy the tools to do it for you!!! lol JK I have the three meters in my tool bag!! I'm a yo yo basshead.... i love this stuff!!!

@chefleon2967 20 күн бұрын

Steve another good point is that ppl use cheap batteries in them I remember you recommended that you run Duracell in them. Idk I just love music

@meade916 20 күн бұрын

People do ship these back for testing only for me to find their Dollar Tree sun-young-lee 9v still in it. A brand new name brand alkaline is the best for short term use but anyone who is serious about these tools and uses them a lot in their profession should have a couple rechargeable batts ready to go at all times. I have like 8 on the charger (2 4 spot bays) lol :D

@strawsy69 20 күн бұрын

What rechargeable batteries do you use? My SMD products havent worked well with rechargeables. It acts as if the batteries are dead or low. @meade916

@chefleon2967 20 күн бұрын

@@strawsy69 try energizer or Duracell both of them have rechargeable batteries

@meade916 19 күн бұрын

@@strawsy69 we use and sell the Tenergy rechargeables with the 2 and 4 spot charging bay. wccaraudio.com/search.php?search_query=tenergy&section=product

@meade916 8 күн бұрын

@lunam7249 yes, I did state a fact when I said you have never done anything except run your troll fingers across a keyboard. As far as the tools, I let them do the talking. You can clearly see on video what is happening. Now go back to your life of doing absolutely nothing. Normal people are at work right now. You should fill out a few job applications.

@meade916 8 күн бұрын

@lunam7249 I just did. You can SEE the clamp and the AMM-1 both in this video. You have to be on some new drug. Maybe horse tranqualizer. Ph.D, EE, P.E. hahahahahah more like SMH.

@4doorlife 21 күн бұрын

The only real issue with the AAM1 is that it was reading way more power when it started to clip than the cheaper one... You never demonstrated that in this video.... I am not trying to be an ass or anything but that was the only real difference between the two...

@meade916 21 күн бұрын

when an amp gets clipped hard it can easily put out as much as double it's rated power. That is one of the first things you learn when you start playing with car audio and amps. That is why clipping is bad. I am glad I was able to address your only real issue. We should be good now. :)

@meade916 21 күн бұрын

I pulled this up to save you some time and since it was the first thing that came up. Please do some more research. "Clipping is a form of waveform distortion that occurs when an amplifier is overdriven and attempts to deliver an output voltage or current beyond its maximum capability. Driving an amplifier into clipping may cause it to output power in excess of its power rating."

@4doorlife 21 күн бұрын

@@meade916 I did not mean any disrespect... Thank you for the added info.... :TU:

@Smokeey409 21 күн бұрын

@@meade916 Honest question, so would you say the meter is as accurate as the amm-1 before clipping? If you follow Steve's instructions to run a sub amp without clipping that a 90$ meter that's mountable in a build is a option?

@RomaVilla 20 күн бұрын

@@meade916just learned something new

@themadmallard 5 күн бұрын

whats with the inordinate amount of shade in the comments... some clout chasing going on over these products...

@bengatewood3197 21 күн бұрын

wasn't parkers test watts.... like the difference between steves and the new one and the Big discrepancy between the two?

@antheny916 21 күн бұрын

Did you watch the whole video? 🤔

@bengatewood3197 21 күн бұрын

@@antheny916 I thought I did. I must have missed some. I just remember the watts difference. I will go watch it again

@antheny916 21 күн бұрын

Watts tested @ 4:00 If that’s what you’re referring to.

@bengatewood3197 21 күн бұрын

@@antheny916 yeah I seen that. but what I was referring to was In parkers video he place Steve's and the new one side by side testing the same thing and the new one red 900 watts and Steve's red like 1700 watts testing the same thing at the same time.

@bengatewood3197 21 күн бұрын

but the new one is not been out as long as Steve's so I'm more inclined to believe steves

@Toddsnightmare 20 күн бұрын

So who started shit again

@AaronBilger 20 күн бұрын

seen someone saying shit in "I Just Wanna Bang" facebook Audio Group about them possibly not being accurate against some other meter.

@ganeshnarayan5505 21 күн бұрын

Parker due a retest.

@robfalkner4303 21 күн бұрын

Steve, I take it you did this to show that the KZfaq morons that your products are quite accurate & most of mistakes are user errors.

@ianrace4066 21 күн бұрын

All Parker did was prove that the BHG meter sucks

@jvsyoutube3298 21 күн бұрын

well, yeah, more or less. These two meters needs more testing, but i trust more the smd-one's at this point...

@Ry-lx2kl 20 күн бұрын

How did you conclude the SMD is the correct meter? I did not see an oscope in either Parker's video or this one to measure actual distortion. So, in the case of both dynos, we are relying on the device to measure clipping accurately. If one dyno registers 1% THD at an actual THD of 1%, and the other registers an actual 1% THD at 0.5% or 1.5% THD, the results will be skewed dramatically. We need to know the actual THD of the amp as measured by the oscope. Then, we need to compare that to both dynos when they claim 1% THD.