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Testing The Toro Power Clear 821 RC Commercial Snowblower
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3 жыл бұрынTesting The Toro Power Clear 821 RC Commercial Snowblower
In this video, I finally got to test my brand new Toro Power Clear 821 RC Commercial Snowblower. We didn't get a lot of snow, but a decent amount to fire it up and use it for the first time. These models are apparently new to this year. Let me know if you would like to see more videos in the future on this new Toro Power Clear 821 RC Commercial Snowblower. What do you think of this new toro snowblower? Is this new toro snowblower worth it?
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@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
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@dannyball2503 Жыл бұрын
I saved a ccr3650 toro with a tecumseh from going to the salvage yard. It is a two stroke and I actually think it’s got more then the one you showed. Engine was prestine and had no rust even. I’m really impressed with it, toro claims it will do 12” of snow 20 inches wide, it does for sure. Even after all this time as it’s about 30 years old
@bobsix2720 Жыл бұрын
I bought this 821. It’s still in the box. But I have a chance to buy a 3650 ccr in great shape for 150$. I might return the 821 now. I’m in south Jersey I don’t get much snow.
@joetaylor1357 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video ,however cant wait to try mine out on some real snow here in buffalo Ny ! Have used mine in 4-5 in with heavy wet and works fine .Throws snow plenty of distance. Hope to make video soon showing the machine being used on 6 plus in. I have the next model up with the electric start and shoot control . No need for electric start ,but cant live without Shoot control ! Toro did a great job on the shoot control ! Works flawlessly and very nice operation. 👍👍👍👍👍 Ratings Awsome machine !!!!
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
I got a video of this model pushing about 10 inches of snow. Make sure to check it out as well! 👍
@blaiseducdaumont1280 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering how your scraper bar held up after one season?? I've read that the recent redesign of the scraper bar was a mistake and that they shred very quickly. Also, the cheap little plastic wheels are a little lacking aren't they? And have you noticed your wing nuts on the handles falling off? These are the three negatives that I've been reading about.
@barbaracoffey124 6 ай бұрын
Love this, except for one thing. During recent 24 in snow , blizzard conditions in Midwest, Jan 2024, the blue handled remote chute controller froze up. I understand others have experienced. Any one have any ideas on how to cure and or prevent. I would have preferred to have your manual controller instead.
@hhova29 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I like the machine but I would like to c it work in heavy snow fall. Also how reliable is the engine?
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
It's very reliable. Like in the other video, it did push 10" but was definitely having a hard time plowing through
@OldLenn 3 жыл бұрын
I don't own one, but I know you can't really go wrong with Toro. I have an older Toro, the CCR3650, and man, I tell you, it's a beast and my go-to snowthrower. Until I upgraded to another Toro, the SnowMaster, which I believe your Power Clear and the new SnowMaster has the same powerful engine, a 252cc.
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely can't go wrong with Toro
@blaiseducdaumont1280 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately their engines are made in China, not comparable to the Honda's durability.
@Paul-ft9qd 3 жыл бұрын
Would you consider this thing usable on cement driveway on a decent slope? Dont want to have to log it back up the hill every pass but want to clean down to the cement so I dont get stuck all the time.
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, on a slopy hill, you can go up and down. Just be very careful when going down. I would recommend wearing tracks on your shoes. If you try side to side, the snowblower likes to skid down.
@wayne1362 2 жыл бұрын
Any scraper blade blade problems i see some guys complaining about that i picked up extra scraper on Amazon they changed the mod # homeowner i haven't got to use it yet
@aliaskink 2 жыл бұрын
Do you find the exhaust placement in an odd spot? I read people having issues with cables melting. I have also heard the spring loaded scrapper bar is a pain.
@chasstauffer4883 9 ай бұрын
The scrapper bar clips my hips over the smallest cracks. I do snow and is makes me so mad when in a rush! lol
@mattschallmo1134 3 жыл бұрын
Does it leave and rubber behind on the concrete ? If so do you know any remedies to remove it ?
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
Not that I can tell when I use it
@geraldtreptow2590 2 жыл бұрын
Does it have that spring loaded scraper bar/cutting edge that flutters?
@fillslawncare 2 жыл бұрын
No It does not
@geedubbya4432 3 жыл бұрын
It even pulls weeds in the cracks!
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
That's right! Thanks for watching
@norge696 3 жыл бұрын
Now they need to make a 921...
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
More than likely in 2 years it'll come out!
@dansloan4242 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard many people complain about the beater bar on this snow blower, your thoughts?
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
No complains from me 👍 I thinks it's as durable as the 721 model
@Robsbrd99 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a 2016 721 RC and a 2020 821 Qze. Both great machines!. Was wondering what happened to the 721? Commercial use?
@sin331 2 жыл бұрын
hi there, I wonder how much more powerful is the 821 compared to the 721?
@Robsbrd99 2 жыл бұрын
@@sin331 I have to say that in less than 6 inches, there isn't much difference in throwing ability. Above 6 inches, yeah, the bigger engine doesn't bog down as much and it does throw farther. In my case, it's worth it because I'm going up and down a driveway that's about 6 cars long. That thing holds a bunch more fuel than the 721 too.
@sin331 2 жыл бұрын
@@Robsbrd99 Thanks for the reply. I've had my 721qze since 2012, and I'm considering adding another blower. I read some reports saying that the 821 is harder to push because it doesn't pull you forward as well as the 721 due to different weight distribution, do you find this to be the case?
@Robsbrd99 Жыл бұрын
@@sin331 Just saw your question. I don't remember one pulling that much better than the other last year. I'll take notice if we get a good snow this year
@blaiseducdaumont1280 Жыл бұрын
@@sin331 The 821 model is rated at 252cc.
@got2getit204 2 жыл бұрын
I got 1 but yet to use it! Seems like the dust will take it b4 the snow!
@fillslawncare 2 жыл бұрын
It's a great machine
@bimmerbroM3 9 ай бұрын
I have both the 721 and the 821 i find they are both beasts the only difference the 821 t may throw it a bite further
@YadohMadoh 3 жыл бұрын
How loud is 821 compared to 721? Which do you recommend 821 qze or 721 qze? Thanks
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
If you are going to use the snowblower for business or for longer than an hour per day, I would recommend the 821 qze. Sounds difference, almost none. I believe they have the same muffler system but different engine bore sizes.
@gregoryburkhead7813 3 жыл бұрын
That was a great quality
@Robsbrd99 3 жыл бұрын
Think I might be qualified to give an opinion. My dad just traded the twin to my 721 for an 821. You can definitely tell it's a more powerful machine. It takes almost a gallon of fuel and just ran 1 hour and 15 min doing a 5" wet, heavy snow. We haven't refilled it yet. I think that's good mileage for the workout it got. The question is does the more powerful machine justify money? If ya have a long drive or have to get the snow over a wall or something, I would say yes.
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks for your input, we appreciate it!
@kennethschmid5159 3 жыл бұрын
Best snowblower I have ever bought. Goes right through 1' snow no problem
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree this snowblower works great
@212indy 3 жыл бұрын
does this model have a gas shut off valve on it? thank you
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
No it does not unfortunately
@king1ny 3 жыл бұрын
how does it compare to a honda simular style unit?thanks.👍
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
I heard and have seen Hondas bogging under the same condition as toro 721's. I would suspect 821's would be even better
@king1ny 3 жыл бұрын
@@fillslawncare Wow I like the Toro 60 V battery unit.Looks like a solid unit with 7 amp battery.Very well-built and no maintenance.Thanks for the info.
@got2getit204 2 жыл бұрын
@@king1ny don’t buy it batteries are not good in cold plus it’s only good for know more the 6 inc and hope it’s not heavy snow don’t have a big property!
@lindaloo206 3 жыл бұрын
How do you turn it on/ off and start the machine? Should the red key stay in the machine or should I bring it in the house
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
Always have the key inserted unless the unit is running and you want to turn it off, then take the key out. Once the engine dies, you can reinsert the key.
@ICUTGRASSLLC Жыл бұрын
It doesn't appear, at least to me, to be moving snow any faster/farther than the 721rc.
@Lovinflyindrones2022 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kens Small Engines is coming on live tonight at 8pm E S T. I’d love to see join him live. Kens Small Engines. Hey it’s 9pm besides 8. Sorry
@stevenm2949 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think it’s worth the extra money over the 721? I live in canada
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
If you are using this unit for your snow removal business like me, then I highly recommend to buy this unit over a 721. My 721 blew up on me at the end of the year because the 721's are not commercial units. They cannot take the work load, while the 821's can.
@stevenm2949 3 жыл бұрын
No, it’s just for my home. I have a 2.5 car drive way with a medium slope. Live in Montreal Canada, we get lots of snow, lol! Would you still recommend the 821? Or save a few bucks and get the 721?
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
For homeowners, definitely the 721 will be more than enough.
@stevenm2949 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate you taking the time to write. What city are you located in?
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenm2949 I'm located in Spokane, WA
@andyslawncareandoutdooradv 3 жыл бұрын
That is a little powerhouse. I'm in Chicago and I own a 15 year old Toro 2 stroke 5hp single stage.. still cranks and blows, but this unit..🤔😁 something I may consider! Great review
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@kirkthebeerslinger 3 жыл бұрын
2-stroke is great...nice power to weight...no oil changes to worry about!
@mc2whls 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, Toro hasn't improved the chute. It should have a crank mechanism, so you can turn the chute from behind the machine. Rather than having to walk up beside it to change chute direction.
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
They have different models that allow you to turn the chute rotater from your handle. I believe it's the QZE?
@got2getit204 2 жыл бұрын
Only because if your doing accounts and have a lot of snow the shoot would freeze up because of snow buildup so manual is the only way now the qze has the ajuster but it’s for home owners! So it’s better for commercial to be manual!
@norge696 3 жыл бұрын
How come your 721 blew?
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
I had a redisential 721 and I ran it for commercial purposes. Probably ran it too hot and bearings in the connecting rod gave way
@venus2012ful 3 жыл бұрын
@@fillslawncare residential and commercial 721 have exactly the same engine. the only difference is paddle thickness. it blew because it's chinese.
@kirkthebeerslinger 3 жыл бұрын
@@venus2012ful no...it likely blew because it was not being properly maintained...ran too hot because it was running too lean...over revving...or not enough oil...you aren't going to blow it using it commercially/vs residentially...the use is the same-blowing snow
@gigiraymond9267 3 жыл бұрын
@@venus2012ful For commercial use you must change the oil in the engine more often , and use a full synthetic oil for maximum protection . Remember these engines are air cooled , and contain only 20 ounces of oil . The motor oil is the Life blood of the engine .
@SCraig-Handsome 3 жыл бұрын
@@venus2012ful Only Honda engines are built in the US, and designed for Commercial use… it would be great if Toro did that but they have a relationship with Loncin for their engines. I would say they and LCT are similar in quality. Powermore is the brand Craftsman and Troy-Bilt use, it’s definitely not Honda quality but the quality is much better now. For commercial use I would say there should be a big difference between the 721 and 821 models, the 721 has a 212cc engine, the 821 is 254cc, same as the Power Max line
@Tundra_Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Is this self propelled?
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
No it is not self propelled. It does not have a drive on it but if you lean the paddles forward, the paddles aid with front ward movement
@Tundra_Guy 3 жыл бұрын
@@fillslawncare What do you mean by leaning the paddles forward?
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tundra_Guy just the more you lean the snowblower forward, the more traction you get from the paddles
@PurpleCollarLife 3 жыл бұрын
HI Small Engine Nation - good stuff! I can't wait until we get some snow. I have a new Toro to try out! We'd really appreciate if you'd give our channel a look when you get a minute if you're not already one of our subscribers! Thanks in advance!
@dslawnlandscapingservices7473 3 жыл бұрын
These engines are made in China for MTD. Loncin: Toro's Premium Engine is made by Loncin, one of China's largest motorcycle manufacturers. They make their 87cc, 99cc, 163cc, 212cc, 265cc and 302cc engines.
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the information. We appreciate it
@sebastian56309 3 жыл бұрын
What a shame going to China for engines. I always preferred American made Briggs and Stratton!
@got2getit204 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastian56309 there not going to China fo engines they are making them to they specks not like China specks and they just take there companies over seas because it’s cheaper to run there facilities and have there engines built over there instead of paying so much to have them built in America what would you do?? Now cub cadet Troy built craftsman and a few others are Chinese made engines by the Chinese and not by them!
@sebastian56309 2 жыл бұрын
@@got2getit204 what would I do? BUY AMERICAN! Many of the millionaires and billionaires that own companies in the USA, outsourced their companies to China. What did we get in return? Loss of American jobs and a China that is stronger. No thanks I try to buy American. 🇺🇸
@got2getit204 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastian56309 ok understood about the jobs but from a money standpoint and running a multi million dollar company your going to be faced with decisions! Now let’s just say you made you engines in America for the last 20 years and all of a sudden it’s costing you more to stay in business here but if you go to China Japan or we’re ever you stand to save 20 million what would you do and let’s just say you move your whole operations from America to China and just make them over there would it be considered Chinese made if it’s steal the same as when you were building it in America??? You just went somewhere else just like people move to other countries!
@scottjohnson5828 3 жыл бұрын
How come mine is sputtering with my the thing that shoots the snow it makes a squeaking noise and jamming up. I am disappointed. Am I doing something wrong?
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
I would check to make sure your belt didn't somehow jam in your pulley. Take your belt cover off and start there.
@scottjohnson5828 3 жыл бұрын
@@fillslawncare I had the choke half way on so you think that could be the issue? It wasn’t all the way push towards the snowblower.
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottjohnson5828 that would definitely cause the engine to sputter
@KF1 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I notice ice can build up inside the auger belt area. Happens on 721 and moreso on the 521. I've had multiple times of taking the cover off from both and having to chisel solid ice out from there. This ice locking can cause the keyway between pulley and auger to semi-shear, causing loss of throwing power but it'll still spin under no load. This keyway shearing can also be caused by pushing it too hard through large chunks etc from plow wakes. I used JB weld to seal the auger shaft back solid with the pulley keyway. Other factor is the belt tension. Important to notch it up tighter when it wears in. If you can smell the belt is hot or it feels too tight on the bail, then back it off a notch and try again. Been using a 721R for 5 years. Synthetic oil changes and have had no problems with engine itself.
@patcb829 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Fill not trying to be a jerk but I see you didn't get and more chocks to lift your box. You really have to put something under those other wheels, even just a 2x. If you only have four and one fails that box can topple over pretty easy.
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Pat thanks for the reminder. I recently went to hft and they were still out. I will make a trip today, hopefully they'll have them 👍
@bottomfeeder12 7 ай бұрын
powerhouse? There was at most 2”
@blaiseducdaumont1280 Жыл бұрын
I have to say I think this is a poor test. I would like to see how it's able to clear the heavy wet stuff that the municipal snow plows throw into driveway entry's.
@nsxproperties560 3 жыл бұрын
For the money you could have bough a Snow Master 724, which is way more capability.
@nathenoneptoh 3 жыл бұрын
snow master is hot garbage with a smaller engine
@nsxproperties560 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathenoneptoh Bigger intake depth actually has a transmission. 724 more capable than the 821 despite is slightly smaller engine.
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
@@nsxproperties560 i bought the 821 because I needed something I could lift into the back of my truck without hauling around ramps. Unfortunately, I would not be able to lift a 724 by myself. And I don't believe the 724 is commercial grade (i believe they have plastic drive transmissions if I'm not mistaken )
@nsxproperties560 3 жыл бұрын
Harbor freight sells a wheel chair carrier with ramp, that you hook on hitch, for a little more money the Snowmaster 724/824 is a better value.
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
@@nsxproperties560 Not for commercial use. Maybe for residential at home yes
@pgb1913 Жыл бұрын
The only problem with ALL Toro snowblowers is that they don't have a fuel shut-off valve. It only costs $10 to add to the snowblower during manufacturing & this will save you from having any carburetor issues by running it dry.
@craigorlikowski2507 6 ай бұрын
Shows this clearing 1"or so of snow. Useless. My Toro 18"powerclear can do same for $400 less. Lets not mention throwing it all in the road! Illegal here.
@mattschallmo1134 3 жыл бұрын
Does it leave any rubber or black marks on concrete ? If so do you know any remedies to remove them?
@fillslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
Not that I can tell when I use it
@blaiseducdaumont1280 Жыл бұрын
They are not pneumatic tires on this small machine, they are cheap little plastic wheels.
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