In the real world there was Taffy 3, in this one there was Pasta Five.

@@vali6717holy shit I love that comparison.

The Popeye's Spinach Fleet

I like your version a lot more. Sounds like a lot of fun for sure.

Porphyrios returns to terrorise the Mediterranean once again

More like wasps, too fast to be regular urbies.

@@tanith117best nation for maritime urbie spam is either China, Spain, or USA with their derpy turret cruisers/battleships

@@operkoi8954the Chinese turret battleships are absolutely amazing. In 1890 at the start of the game I can have a 10-gun broadside with 3 twin centerline turrets and 2 on each wing

@@nickthenuker7916 at the cost of pitiful speed and range, almost no armour, and few 2 inch secondaries. Add in the tiny displacement and they are maritime urbies.

​@@operkoi8954 Get rid of the secondaries and add a bit of armor while putting your entire research into targeting systems and you get slow, longrange AC20 sea urbies.

Oh yeh if you're Italy and playing "normal" you don't want to fight the Royal Navy at that stage

Sounds like jeune Ecole on roids

Well, put it this way, you are a well to do british gentleman. You see in the paper the royal navy is going to tell those silly eye-ties what for. You are happy. But then the next day, you pick up the paper, ans the head line 'royal navy sunk, italy victorious'. Now you are mad. Sad. And even worse... AFFRONTED. Now it cant have been the italians fault, they couldnt have ACTUALLY won. So clearly it was TREACHERY. The high command, the politicians must all go! So you and 2.5 million of your mates walk into the admiralty and parliament with your rolled up newspaper and start murdering people with your tea cups.

Well, this is honestly optimal this early Battleships can't hit shit unless they are point-blank, and in BEST of conditions you MIGHT get 10% accuracy on your 40 second reload guns You have better chance with light / heavy cruiser designs as far as cannon fire goes so they are your go-to anti-torpedo boat chassis, and they have decent naval supremacy score so few in each fleet won't hurt Aaaaand then you get torpedo boats, they provide little to no naval supremacy score, they die in few hits, but you can have shit ton of them and 1 or 2 torpedoes can sink battleship, anything less usually drops after 1 so spam away But you are saying, but what about big boy, the Battleship? Well, ditch that shit until AT LEAST Hull Strenghtening 5 when dreadnought chassis unlocks, tho don't rush it and try to get shit like Induced boilers, mk3 guns and krupp armor to decrease amount of tonage you need to spend on utilities and increase amount of GUN and making sure that shit you fling actually hits something

@@soldiersPL i dunno. The sheer ASSRAPING that the Wunderwaffen BB EXPORTO gave the americans was kinda hilarious. One unbeatable megaship.

I just imagine the Admiralty reading the treaty and collectively say "Wait?! That worked?!"

Got a book list? I would like a list of titles that Tex referenced please.

I think he has a degree/doctorate/phd in history as well something like that.

He has several degrees he mentioned it

He reads good too.

if you want to learn a lot of this and have a commute, I highly recommend Drachinifel.

Do you see torpedo boats?

Russia would like to purchase your entire binocular inventory

Because a certain admiral threw all of his overboard

Somewhere Drachinifel is rolling in laughter

Gotta love any quote from somebody aboard the lecherous slut! Bonus points for actual relevancy! 😂

And then it got worse....

*binocular throwing intensifies*

And then the second, 7 BBs lost along with a couple dozen other capital ships in the course of a month, like holy shit the documentaries on these battles would be hilarious :D

@@KleverKilvanya Documentary: "The core strategy for the Italian navy was swimming lessons and how to float good. The plan was as long as Italy won they could pick their sailors back up after the war."

"Hey! Transport!" *BRITISH NAVY EXPLODES FOR A FULL THREE MINUTES* "And so, the Italian navy was forced to live in Sicily. The Italian mainland feared them as one would a hungry tiger."

Aaaaaaand now I can imagine nothing else. How could you do this to me?

I didn't until now. Cant't unthink. Well delivered. Transporto!

Horde of torpedoes!!!!!!!

That would be awesome

@@Gordon519 that would mean Part 3

@@Bitterman5868 it would be amazing...

The internet would break

Well, the logical conclusion to the _jeune ecole_ is that the British build a shitload of torpedo boat destroyers before getting into a war with a fleet composed of mostly torpedo boats, at which point they roflstomp the navy with the more limited budget.

Jeune École is primarily about avoiding pitch battles, and attriting an enemy through small scale raiding action. It still calls for a battleline to both prevent the enemy from just blockading your cruisers doing the raiding, and to win the decisive battle once the enemy battlefleet is ragged and ill supplied from all the raiding. In reality it doesnt quiet work out, unless you have a significant material advantage.

In theory, the reason a battleship of the era has lots of guns in different calibers was so that they had a gun for every situation, the bigger guns firing too slowly to deal with things like torpedo boats, but having enough smaller guns to deal with any that made it through their escorts. But that would involve not having the escorts more-or-less buried under a tsunami of enemy torpedo boats.

@@boobah5643 I am actually aware of this, it was just the spectacle of seeing it play out in that battle that had me laughing out loud. I've seen a similar approach used in Stellaris, before they updated the game to make corvette spamming unviable, good times.

@@boobah5643 also that's why the fleet screen exists, to screen the capital ships. It's just that no fleet screen can hope to deal with that many torpedo boats

Zergling rush

Even historically it would work (hence the "jeune echole" french doctrine that Tex mentions at one point) until the "rapid fire gun" got invented and TBs would simply be shredded by rapid 5 inch fire. Japan kind of brought it back during WW2 with the longlance torpedo and the night fighting doctrine (until radar became common on ships).

@@gusty9053 The Japanese doctrine was nothing like _jeune ecole;_ the _Yamato_ class battleships (and their planned successors) are the exact opposite, being giant ships designed to take on their opponents' capital ships at a 50% disadvantage in numbers. That is, _Yamato_ and _Musashi,_ together, were designed to come out ahead against any three of the US treaty battleships. The Japanese reliance on their smaller ships was more a result of limited fuel supplies than anything intentional.

@@boobah5643 Check Drach's video on the "decisive battle doctrine". Japan planned for a "decisive battle" where the big capital ships would indeed fight american BB and outmatch them in a 2 on 3 fight but... in the night previous to this supposed battle the destroyers, submarines and cruisers would engage the american fleet in an all night running battle designed to cause as much damage as possible: ie: large numbers of light vessels using torpedo attacks (incidentally that is why the focus on torpedo launchers and torpedo reloads for the lighter fleet units and the development of the Longlance) to bring down the numbers of a conventional fleet. Sounds a lot like "jeune ecole" don't you think ? Now granted that envisioned "decisive battle" never happened like Japan planed but the doctrine was there.

It's kino for italy given how well they used them in ww1. Also how many they built after a single succesful operation against the austrohungarians

Probably.

A sound design for a light utility combatant. Remember to add a little extra equipment for repairing e.g. navigational buoys, since they'll often get treated like over-glorified row boats and e.g. get sent out to repaint the local space docks.

Sounds like the "Naked Corvette" that dominated the Stellaris meta for a while

Bonus points if there's no IFF systems... XD

@@geoffreyentwistle8176 Oooh Good Idea lol Clearly the crew needed that space for an extra 3 torps

It is essentially the same doctrine. In the US, destroyers and carriers make up the battle groups. On the other side, we built frigates for patrol and show the flag operations. Carrier groups will be used for up front confrontations. The frigate are there to keep regional powers from feeling opportunistic around international shipping and to keep supply ships safe.

The earliest stage of the game would have battles that no one can win because it's just cannon balls bouncing off heavy armor on both sides. :V

Rule the waves?

​@@MarktheRudenah, RTW starts in the same time as Ultimate Admirals

Those poor poor british bastards

Just a point on long range, I often play the US and due to the lack of bases you need the range. Reducing the beam really increases that range substantially. 😳

@@philswift791 Oh yeah, skinny Spanish ships are the result for me. Its interesting how those strategic considerations play into the design of your ship, unlike most build-and-fight games which are pure min/max oriented.

Excellent. Kaiser forever.

@DixonsCider My German playthrough is still my favorite. Maintained a good standing with the UK and eventually became allies, so that was a fun little change. Prevented the rise of the Nazi party, so I did technically stay as the German Empire. America was the most persistent enemy, they tried to send a fleet up the English Channel but I had my own task force waiting for them; Brits were quite happy I defended the channel.

The italian navy was absolutely a force to be reckoned with. In the allied planning for WW2, it was assumed that it'd take basically the whole french navy with its most modern battleships to hold down the Med against them while the royal navy would deal with the Atlantic. In the end it was let down mostly by logistics (lack of fuel) and a mixture of really bad luck and their opponents doing batshit crazy things on those occasions where they did manage to scrape together enough fuel to sortie.

@@GaldirEonai Jokes don't always translate over the internet.

@@BigRed40TECH No but they sometimes inadvertantly invite lore dumps that are very interesting to read! xD

@@Musabre Out of the Axis navies, the Italian one wasn't wiped out and after the war ended they wanted to sail through the Suez for some UN mission and the British were freaking out because... well it hurt Britain's pride the Italian Navy weren't wiped out.

Pre ww1, I have no idea

Trust me. I'm Italian and learned about this song only a couple years ago. It hasn't left my head yet. But, if there's a song that could raise a horde of angry Italian soldiers to fight the enemy, that would be "La Leggenda del Piave". And trust me. It works

Oh god you're right.