Texas Talks Clip - Talking Tejano History: Mexican Independence

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4 жыл бұрын

Dr. Emilio Zamora and Dr. Andres Tijerina discuss the Spanish origin of Tejanos in the formation of Texas, and their part in the independence of Mexico from the rule of Spain.
From Zamora's and Tijerina's Texas Talks webinar "Talking Tejano History." Join TSHA to watch the full webinar on www.mytsha.com.

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@bushwackcreek
@bushwackcreek 5 ай бұрын
My ancestors immigrated to Texas from Alsace in 1843. Landing in Galveston and trekking to San Antonio to camp and await settlement lands supposedly provided by Henri Castro, later Castroville. While camped in San Antonio on the Alamo grounds for nearly a year, they endured a Cholera epidemic which killed my Great-great-great-great grandmother Schertz and two of her daughters. They were buried in a mass grave in the old city cemetery east of town. My Great-great-great grandfather Mergele and his family and in-laws joined the Solms-Braunfels Colony and were founders of New Braunfels. Growing up in Texas, I was educated only in the history of Texas in regards to the Gringo revolution of 1836. When I finally learned of the Tejano Revolution of 1813 I became profoundly disappointed in the Anglo/Pro-slavery version of the history of my state and the origins of the Republic of Texas.
@Native_Creation
@Native_Creation 3 жыл бұрын
Well said
@blastrevino770
@blastrevino770 2 жыл бұрын
We are mixed with the indians too. Tejanos are from texas originaly. And mixed with spain.
@Rocky-ji6cj
@Rocky-ji6cj 2 жыл бұрын
Azteca, Spaniards, Mexicans. I'm starting to think the "indians" weren't killed off , yes many were, but mostly just labeled Mexican. One thing for sure is that there is no concedence " Mexicans " and native Indians are the same shade of brown.
@avalanelleegomez5130
@avalanelleegomez5130 3 жыл бұрын
I understand a bit better
@randolph1917
@randolph1917 3 жыл бұрын
What this historian forgets to point out, was that much of those who fought against Spain, were influenced by Anglo-Masonry, and Protestantism taking root in Texas. The bulk of Tejanos were not against Spain, and on the contrary, never voted to become a part of Mexico either. The Republic of Texas, was ethnically centered around the new Anglo-Protestant settlers and their new slavery system , and Mestizos and the full blooded indians were regarded as obstacles to land grabs. So no, I as a Tejano still prefer the Holy Mother Country of Spain.
@castlewoods4753
@castlewoods4753 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t know nothing about Texas Mexico history ain’t no Spanish people here is Mexicans you fool
@iwatchyoutube9425
@iwatchyoutube9425 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, neither side was particularly friendly to the Mestizos. The Spanish were ruthless conquerors who spread their faith by the sword and the Anglo-Protestants, as you said, were crypto-Masonic and would later infiltrate the Catholic Church anyway. I don't think it was an accident of history that Tejanos divorced themselves from Spain. I'm more concerned about where we're going as a people now and into the future.
@randolph1917
@randolph1917 2 жыл бұрын
@@iwatchyoutube9425 That's actually not true to say Spain wasn't friendly against Mestizos. Mestizos we're legally recognized as subject of the Crown, while full blooded Indians were not. Mestizos were entitled to property, and could also inherit titles if their parents were nobility, assuming they were of legitimate relationships. The distinction in the Spanish empire was more along social class, not race. Hernan Cortez legitimized his mestizo son, and even had him enobled by the King of Spain. The descends of Moctezuma and Cortez today remain as titled aristocrats in Spain to this day.
@iwatchyoutube9425
@iwatchyoutube9425 2 жыл бұрын
@@randolph1917 There is nuance here. It depended on the degree of Indio blood and that had a part to play in determining your social class considering the very detailed caste categorizations the Spaniards used. In Roman History, Trajan's right hand man was a North African and Herod the Great had an adopted Ethiopian son whom he loved, but that did not mean that black people held the same status in Roman society as the European peoples did. What does it matter that the descendants of Moctezuma are titled as aristocrats when Tenochtitlan was burned and Aztec culture erased? Was some of that culture brutish and evil? Yes. But it doesn't justify the atrocities that were committed. The point is that looking up to Spain as some holy city on a hill for us to emulate or wish to return to is not the answer. This is a different land with different environmental and geographic factors. A different history and a different admixture of peoples, so it has a different destiny and that's something we should be forming and investigating for ourselves.
@randolph1917
@randolph1917 2 жыл бұрын
@@iwatchyoutube9425 No, really you're referring to the so-called "Casta Paintings", which are a forgery from the Victorian era travellers, and never had any legal backing in the Spanish empire. There were even fully recognized Amerindian Nobility, by edict of the Spanish crown, going back to Isabella the Catholic and continued by Charles V and his son Phillip II, who had the Mestizo son of Cortez as his childhood friend and court favorite.
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