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Teyvat Historia

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@TeyvatHistoria
@TeyvatHistoria 2 жыл бұрын
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@ventibestboy574
@ventibestboy574 3 жыл бұрын
basically Lumine, Dain, Tsaritsa have the mutual enemy which is celestia but they don't share same path and strategies that's why instead of uniting, they consider each others as hindrance.
@lordironhidex
@lordironhidex 3 жыл бұрын
Time to team up with the Tsaritsa
@louloudaki_
@louloudaki_ 3 жыл бұрын
bro if they united the gods better watch it
@awkward_chaos8322
@awkward_chaos8322 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine what would happen if Dain, Kaeya, Albedo, Lumine, and the Tsaritsa teamed up 😳
@kuurusuaki
@kuurusuaki 3 жыл бұрын
@@awkward_chaos8322 Teyvat would go to shit for all we know 😭
@kazui4605
@kazui4605 3 жыл бұрын
What kaeya said to venti blew my mind, like what?! I told my crush mi muhe ye
@ZoneSkye
@ZoneSkye 3 жыл бұрын
Assert dominance
@joshbrosh6626
@joshbrosh6626 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@idminister
@idminister 3 жыл бұрын
well in kaeya's case there are two possible ways to take it: future tense-declaration/challenge to barbatos, present tense- calvary captain kaeya trolling the archon into doing work
@minxxd
@minxxd 3 жыл бұрын
Good for u! Assert dominance!
@Song_of_Flame
@Song_of_Flame 3 жыл бұрын
It not very bad, it basically means "I need you (strongly)." It can be considered as "I win you" because it can be used in two ways, one to express a need in a good way(love), the other one to show targetting someone, so it's used before a duel in the hilichurlian book. And by the way, I don't think Kayea used it wrongly. I believe he wants someone to understand him by that poem, thus, it's less likely for him to use it wrongly intentionally.
@dm_blinkonce3231
@dm_blinkonce3231 3 жыл бұрын
It's important to note that Dainsleif feels to fall under reason and logical thinking. There was a line i believe where he said "Don't believe everything gods tell you, but also don't go around hunting them down" it's like he atleast knows that going against the gods might not be the best option 😅
@farzeennafees2576
@farzeennafees2576 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah based on the story im inclined to trust Dainself more because he clearly dislikes the gods but has enough judgement and experience to know that whatever the abyss order and/or tsaritsa is planning is a bad idea
@joshbrosh6626
@joshbrosh6626 3 жыл бұрын
Wellll I think he speaks from experience khaenriah
@aarokturunen
@aarokturunen 3 жыл бұрын
However assuming he has the first field tiller eye in his posession, why would he purposefully place himself what could be their main hideout, in the midlle of his enemies. When he was supposed to hide the eye for good. To me it felt like rash and emotional decision to dash after lumine which goes against the impression i've gotten from him
@joshbrosh6626
@joshbrosh6626 3 жыл бұрын
@@aarokturunen or its simple he just played us to get the eye
@aarokturunen
@aarokturunen 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshbrosh6626 that is my line of though as well. Unless he hid the eye before hand. Cant really say at this point
@owokosohna5154
@owokosohna5154 3 жыл бұрын
I have a hunch that Celestia was the one that cursed Dainsleif with immortality to use him as a witness to the destruction of Khaenri'ah. Celestia can just use the "he failed to protect Khaenri'ah" as an excuse to curse him and I'm guessing his omniscience is also a part of the the package so that he can witness everything that's going on. And if you think about it, Dain is just one guy. Even if he's powerful, he's still outnumbered by the sheer amount of gods in Celestia and all the power they have combined. - - - My friend also has a theory that Gold (or Rhinedottir, whether they're the same person or not is unconfirmed but is hihgly probable) was framed by Celestia. Gold pursued knowledge that Celestia deemed 'too dangerous' because it threatened them. So they used Gold's pursuit for knowledge and twisted the narrative so that Gold seemed greedy and power-hungry. Now that I'm reflecting on it, it makes sense too. The books in the game frame Celestia as some sort of heaven that's super divine and we have numerous story hints that says 'khaenriah is bad' all of which i found suspicious. A narrative that is too black and white is never to be trusted because nothing /is/ simply black and white. - - - Also, not entirely related but I do wonder if our twin first met Dainsleif after Khaenri'ah's destruction. It's really likely that they'd run into each other there imo. - - - TLDR: Don't trust Celestia
@themrnobody100
@themrnobody100 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I won't be surprised if Celestia is pulling everyone's strings behind the scenes and pit different factions against each other.
@hakun0695
@hakun0695 3 жыл бұрын
“History is Written by Victors.”
@manjunath414
@manjunath414 3 жыл бұрын
@@hakun0695 I was about to say just that .
@autumnstar316
@autumnstar316 3 жыл бұрын
Celestia is a lie Kind of like scaramouche said (the stars are a lie) I can say that much is definitely true And in the manga, celestia was actually more of a prison than a heaven
@thedawner6311
@thedawner6311 3 жыл бұрын
@@hakun0695 can't agree more.
@danielbernardo2028
@danielbernardo2028 3 жыл бұрын
There's always two sides of the coin. We only just heard the side of Khaenriah from Dainsleif, which is a Khaenrian. Im waiting for the other side of the story, maybe from Venti or Zhongli.
@albedomain2446
@albedomain2446 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't the Dragon Durran attack Dragonspine around the same time Khaenria was destroyed. And he was created by a Khaenrian alchemist.
@danielbernardo2028
@danielbernardo2028 3 жыл бұрын
@@albedomain2446 Yes it was created by Khaenrian alchemist during the war. Its target is Monstadt. When Durin died, it fell into Dragonspine.
@swirlybun9616
@swirlybun9616 3 жыл бұрын
Venti looks to be trying hard to avoid it and focus on his people (I won’t get into that, I personally would do the same), but Zhongli has to answer some questions. And based on his story quest, I can’t wait for his explanation.
@danielbernardo2028
@danielbernardo2028 3 жыл бұрын
@@swirlybun9616 What I think happened is Celestia ordered the Archons to attack Khaenriah. The archons needs to obey but still have different opinions about it. Specially the Tsaritza. Venti said she cutoff all connections to other archons after what happened 500 years ago.
@Milkythefawn
@Milkythefawn 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielbernardo2028 yea, I can’t imagine the current archons to want to destroy a civilization for not worshiping them
@wizardcat0926
@wizardcat0926 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Venti during his story quest: "Ah... You know, you're so smart it almost makes me uncomfortable sometimes".
@yyong3002
@yyong3002 3 жыл бұрын
Remember venti told us to meet at the usual place? That's a bit suspicious, feels like venti already met us long time ago
@jad5375
@jad5375 3 жыл бұрын
@@yyong3002 yep in the manga we met at the big Vanessa tree before
@twooty2148
@twooty2148 3 жыл бұрын
@@yyong3002 he also says “ah we meet again, wait, you don’t remember me?” Something weird is going on
@nabieladrian
@nabieladrian 3 жыл бұрын
He's sus, don't get fooled by those cuties.
@amd.0001
@amd.0001 3 жыл бұрын
@@twooty2148 he did?
@braddl9442
@braddl9442 3 жыл бұрын
It means that there are now some real clear factions and faction lines all in play. And the recent Endora event hints that the Hydro Archon is up to something, something that upset enough of the LochFolk that many ran away from them.
@amelianekomimi1936
@amelianekomimi1936 3 жыл бұрын
they said the old archon wished to connect EVERYTHING...makes me wonder that means.
@taychuhan4470
@taychuhan4470 3 жыл бұрын
@@amelianekomimi1936 probably in a good way to connect everyone together
@ronelicabandi9706
@ronelicabandi9706 3 жыл бұрын
@@amelianekomimi1936 wi-fi
@thebokchoy6854
@thebokchoy6854 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronelicabandi9706 he was just sick of his 999ms
@fireblizard8366
@fireblizard8366 3 жыл бұрын
I thought they said the hydro second, the current one at least, had no plan.
@mizuday2709
@mizuday2709 3 жыл бұрын
there's also this line where Lumine said "don't try to stop me, don't try to stop the abyss." The first line she said where she separated herself from the abyss might be hinting that she had another plan
@fratyagmur6529
@fratyagmur6529 3 жыл бұрын
The line also implies they're one so if traveler tries to cross abyss she'll be crossing her too, it's just up for interpretation imo.
@nabieladrian
@nabieladrian 3 жыл бұрын
That's a truly interesting point!
@louloudaki_
@louloudaki_ 3 жыл бұрын
the way she inflected it makes it sound more like she’s making herself interchangeable with the abyss
@sekhmet_revuwution2383
@sekhmet_revuwution2383 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you mentioned it but if you stand near the statue when you first encounter it, it drains your hp, learned that when my Bennet fainted from it. I suspect that it drained the grand thief’s life force which killed them.
@TeyvatHistoria
@TeyvatHistoria 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t, but yeah I very nearly died from it too
@grapeyard1778
@grapeyard1778 3 жыл бұрын
I found out when I tried to take a picture with Venti in front of it and he just died lmao
@youdontseemtounderstand.7901
@youdontseemtounderstand.7901 3 жыл бұрын
Good catch! That actually slipped my mind until I read this. That makes so much sense. That weird purple mist killed my Fischl, and almost my Ningguang because I didn’t know what was going on. Lol so I noped out of there as fast as I could. I wonder what made the first encounter so special from the second. Perhaps around the time the grand thief was present the statue was active draining the life out of anything near it? I know the thief wasn’t exactly a good guy, but the way he went out was pretty grim for a game that’s been pretty lighthearted to this point. I like where it’s going, but the amount of dark this quest was took me off guard. I underestimated it and almost died because of it.
@PacificViceroy
@PacificViceroy 3 жыл бұрын
I stood in front of the Defiled Statue with my Ningguang for about a minute but my HP never went down. Is this a bug or am I just lucky?
@youdontseemtounderstand.7901
@youdontseemtounderstand.7901 3 жыл бұрын
@@PacificViceroy Did you run through the purple mist? I noticed some players run or jump over it and came out fine.
@neor2354
@neor2354 3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing, I believe the first time Dain DOES know about Mc's relationship with Venti and Zhongli hence he asks you interesting questions, one of them being about your opinion of your adventure to save Dvalin. Dainsleif knows more than you think, but that we already knew from thr start...
@manasama9971
@manasama9971 3 жыл бұрын
wait so he asks you if the gods were the reason why you were successful in those quests or if it were the unity of the people? omg. also if you chose the unity of people you were told you're just like her or him but if you chose otherwise you're told you're different. interesting
@yasc5136
@yasc5136 3 жыл бұрын
Teyvat Historian: Let's go. In and out. 25 minute analysis. The stream: 47 minutes
@TeyvatHistoria
@TeyvatHistoria 3 жыл бұрын
technically it was 37 minutes. the 10 minute timer at the start doesnt count :P Anyways its a new format, I'm still working on how to manage it so i can further shorten it. I'll be refining it more and more with each subsequent stream for sure to help ensure a shorter duration.
@ZoneSkye
@ZoneSkye 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeyvatHistoria If the intention is to shorten it...wouldn't it be more bennefischl to make a video and then use the Premiere feature?
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZoneSkye I love the pun there
@TeyvatHistoria
@TeyvatHistoria 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZoneSkye no. It’s not that simple.
@ZoneSkye
@ZoneSkye 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeyvatHistoria Probably not as timely to write and edit all of that right? In which case, fair enough, I'll still listen in whenever I can.
@themrnobody100
@themrnobody100 3 жыл бұрын
When they mentioned meteorites and the siblings sleeping, did anyone else have a flashback to the Unreconciled Stars event?
@joshbrosh6626
@joshbrosh6626 3 жыл бұрын
Me
@idminister
@idminister 3 жыл бұрын
The meteorites of the unreconciled stars were of the (fake) constellations of the false sky. For a land without starships and their level of technology, a 'meteor' would serve as excellent code word for such Zhongli's meteor burst or celestia's structures are probably closer. But even still it seems odd that if it was some sore of interplanetary/dimensional/sea of quanta craft as to why they would use separate ones and not a slightly larger one to share.
@_pleiad
@_pleiad 3 жыл бұрын
Some things to note: Traveler not going loudly about his intentions of questioning Zhongli and Venti is probably nothing more than thinking to himself, since Dainsleif knows, that we know both the archons. And the other thing is, since Khaenria'h was destroyed 500 years ago, and 500 years ago was the last time Venti talked to Tsarista on 'good' terms, that most likely means that that was a breaking point for her, and that's when she turned on Celestia and the other of the Seven(or at least on Venti). It's hard to tell as of now, if the Seven really did play a pivotal role in wiping Khaenria'h out, but it's definitely not a coincidence in case of Tsarista's rebellion. Since she is/was a god of love, seeing whole nation of people getting crushed by her fellow gods was perhaps too much for her. Based on this, I think that there may be a bigger reason behind Fatui openly challenging Venti, instead of striking a deal with him like they went about with Zhongli. It may very well be that he was just weak and it was a good time to strike, but it also could mean, that Tsarista's personal vendetta against him is bigger than that against the other Seven, implying that perhaps Venti played a more important role in destroying Khaenria'h, or perhaps, check this out, was the only god responsible(at least of the Seven). I mean, the destroyed area did looked to be somewhere around Mondstadt. Sure, he most likely was following orders given to him or something, but still. And so Tsarista decided to make him pay in a way. Having the friendliest god we met turn out to be the one with the darkest secret is a pretty dark writing, and MiHoYo can pull that off.
@exoticcats6119
@exoticcats6119 3 жыл бұрын
Also I’m pretty sure the current Dendro archon is 500 years old. So if there was a previous one they could’ve died during the Khaenri’ah events.
@_pleiad
@_pleiad 3 жыл бұрын
@@exoticcats6119 it does appear to be the case
@ichikaracrossing6908
@ichikaracrossing6908 3 жыл бұрын
im new to this lore stuff but im kinda leaning on to this since the abyss order stole his statue and not Zhongli's
@weena2062
@weena2062 3 жыл бұрын
somehow I do think that is possible but I would hate that idea, too...I love Venti and his story is sad and dark, too, so IF he would be the one god responsible for the destroying Khaenria'h thing, I so wish he had no choice back then and is regretting what he did since then. it is my very first mihoyo game (and pc game in general) and I love a good plot and stuff but if it turns out that the story is that dark and twisting and making the characters we meet during the game bad and dangereous and our enemies...I don't know, I guess I won't be playing until the very end XD I love good endings with the people I love during a game. I don't wanna kill Venti in the end for example. somehow I hope we will all be on the same side in the end fighting against celestia or so. ah and btw. why did the god in the beginning didn't kill the twins (or one of them)? she just seperated them, right? why though? why didn't she just kill them? yeah I know, otherwise we wouldn't be able to play that game XD but that is my main question and I'm sure we will get that answer at the very end of this story XD so far I enjoy the game, but I also suffer from all these sad things that happened in Teyvat and all that stuff that is going to happen ._.
@_pleiad
@_pleiad 3 жыл бұрын
@@weena2062 I'm haven't played other MiHoYo games either, but those who did kinda all agree on one thing, and it's that MiHoYo can and is really good at writing sad stories. While I do believe that Genshin will have happy-ish ending (whenever we'll get around to that), I'm somewhat certain, that there's quite a few dark plot-twists for us to experience. We better brace ourselves, I guess
@woodentable3221
@woodentable3221 3 жыл бұрын
If the name "Field Tiller" originates from the statement that "the land is ... to be fought for with steel and blood", it may imply that Khaenri'ah had fought in wars even before the Cataclysm happened, maybe even to expand their territory. It's also interesting, that Ganyu said that the Dendro Archon is only 500 years old, so the former Archon might have been killed shortly before or during the Cataclysm. I think Khaenri'ah was not only destroyed, because they were successful without the Gods, but also because they were too dangerous and/or did something bad.
@silverIining
@silverIining 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! Especially considering the line the unknown god said in the beginning of the game "The arrogation of mankind ends now!" Arrogation means "to claim or seize without justification" or "to make undue claims to having" (Merriam-Webster). So I think that Khaenri'ah was a very warlike, conquering nation and may have been trying to conquer the other nations that fell under the protection of the gods. I'm not saying that the gods were justified in wiping out Khaenri'ah, just that there are two sides to every story, and the gods may have had a very compelling reason for their actions.
@woodentable3221
@woodentable3221 3 жыл бұрын
@@silverIining That's a good point. I didn't think this sentence could be interpreted in this way.
@anname7373
@anname7373 3 жыл бұрын
Venti says that the archons, had they joined together, could've destroyed the abyss order back then. They didn't join together, though. I think because of that, The Keeper of Heavenly Principals chose to wipe out Khaenri'ah to take the Abyss Order with it. Now I believe the Tsaritsa decided to stop asking for help and just take all the Gnosises to take down the Abyss Order herself.
@RDRides7701
@RDRides7701 3 жыл бұрын
As I have read the old Dendro Archon was killed because of dis obeying celestia's order to attack khaenr'iah and also that Dedro Archon is also Tsaritsa's lover, maybe thats why Tsaritsa want to destroy celestia I think.
@miphasgrace8980
@miphasgrace8980 3 жыл бұрын
This made me even more curious about Kaeya if anything. His father told him he’s their last hope. He’s the final link to figuring out more about what happened 500 years ago and Dain
@cedleonard123
@cedleonard123 3 жыл бұрын
I think something more important we don't mention is how Lumine just spies on us (We Will be Reunited trailer), and from this quest we see why. She's waiting for us to do our adventure to uncover "the truth" and probably HOPING we end up on her side. Is it because she really wants to destroy celestia, or she doesn't want her relationship broken?
@PamadaK
@PamadaK 3 жыл бұрын
Dainsleif has super speed ability, Kaeya decreases sprinting stamina.. The people of Khaenriah are speedsters D:
@Ren_rz
@Ren_rz 3 жыл бұрын
Mind control is only possible if the target looses the will to fight or else boreous would have been taken over
@TeyvatHistoria
@TeyvatHistoria 3 жыл бұрын
Very true
@elgoblino7549
@elgoblino7549 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeyvatHistoria I saw a lore like Celestia is a prison for who tries to the reach the power or threating the main villain ( the time god maybe) nd archons are the people who watch over it making sure no one does that nd in Kanreiah civilisation was far ahead without gods nd they were trying to reach the godly powers nd the truth just like Dain says in storyline trailer...so archons destroyed Kanreah as it was threatening to the main god ( we can see some of Dain's powers were so powerful in the quest ) Edit (the link to the video) : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oNepirB6yZ3cZ5c.html Idk if you've already watched this but this is good to watch👍 this guy nd you are my fav genshin lore guiders ❤️
@RuneKatashima
@RuneKatashima 3 жыл бұрын
@@elgoblino7549 I thought that too but why don't Venti or Zhongli say something? They've gone back and forth from Celestia over the millenia.
@elgoblino7549
@elgoblino7549 3 жыл бұрын
@@RuneKatashima because it's their work! They shouldn't allow mortals to try to achieve the godly power but now Zhongli nd Venti are kinda supporting that but they are just waiting for the long story than saying the truth nd making chaos
@Fullmetal_Gacha
@Fullmetal_Gacha 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, okay, I’m just putting out my theory from what I understood from this quest. This largely has to do with the MC’s and their sibling’s timeline. Okay, so what I think is that by the time Khaenriah was destroyed, the sibling had already travelled through Teyvat. From what I can tell from the dialogue, when the sibling woke up the MC, they seemed to already know about what was happening with Khaenriah, and even knew the places name. This makes sense since if the sibling travelled through Teyvat before the destruction of Khaenriah, they would already know about all the nations. This would also put the siblings anger towards Dainslef in a different light. If the sibling began their journey in Khaenriah, they would have gotten close to the people of Khaenriah, making them angry when Dainslef wasn’t able to protect those very same people from the gods. It would also make the sibling’s “care” towards the abyss’s inhabitants make a little more sense since they knew these people before they became monsters. After the sibling travelled through Teyvat and found the MC, both decided to flee but their path was blocked by the unknown god. The sibling was sent back to Teyvat with their power intact, while the MC seems to have been sealed to sent forward in time.
@alasceusaxarius4062
@alasceusaxarius4062 3 жыл бұрын
Abyss is doing some stuff with the keyword "Loom of Fate". and dain says in the teyvat chapter storyline: "Defeat me, command me to step aside. Show me that you are worthier than i to rescue her. Then, the threads of all fate will be yours to re-weave"... idk but i think its some how connected to the end of our Journey, and also in the character screen, in Lumine/Aether profile, theres "Loom of fate" maybe this project will be a big plot for the end of the story
@SirSailorStar
@SirSailorStar 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to scream at the end of this questline. It was really good, but made me super emotional!
@fadasd
@fadasd 3 жыл бұрын
tbh dainsleif is just as suspect rn, the first thing he does after aquiring the eye of the field tiller is go directly to the statue and follow the enemy into a portal that could potentially lead right into their main base
@F0XHunter
@F0XHunter 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't make sense for him to keep the act up even after Lumine showed up
@bluestrider2562
@bluestrider2562 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if i'm reading into it too much? But, when Dainsleif is questioning Aether, in this case, he asked him specifically that he was woken up by his sibling, that he was TOLD that Khanri'ah was being destroyed and set ablaze and it's best to leave by his sibling.... So perhaps Lumine, in this scenario, only told Aether half truths at the time to protect him. So Dainsleif is inferring that NOT only has Lumine been awake this entire time, but she awoke first maybe weeks/months or even years before Aether, in this scenario, the first time. Which would explain the seemingly intimate relationship between her an Dains. Maybe she even played a role in the events leading up to the destruction of Khanri'ah. Thats why she's taking such a heavy responsibility in trying to right her error.
@brxnd0n301
@brxnd0n301 3 жыл бұрын
no wonder Zhongli said that Him and Osial would meet again at the end of his sidequest .what a foreshadow
@brxnd0n301
@brxnd0n301 3 жыл бұрын
I think their going to lure Zhongli out MAYBE !
@TeyvatHistoria
@TeyvatHistoria 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’ll matter. He no longer has a Gnosis. I think that’s part of the Tsaritsa’s plan
@brxnd0n301
@brxnd0n301 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeyvatHistoria yeah you have a point
@thelastmaian
@thelastmaian 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeyvatHistoria I think she plans to infuse herself with the Gnoses (plural?) and free Teyvat from Celestia's Iron Curtain. She finds it so important to do so that she isn't afraid to buff the Harbingers with some measure of divinity or to use her Fatui as a terrorist organization. To her, the ends justify whatever means that are needed. It is for the future of Teyvat, after all. Don't get me wrong I'm not defending her actions, the Fatui are still pompous and annoying assholes.
@purply44
@purply44 3 жыл бұрын
Dainsleif is actually a pretty good written character tbh
@cast396
@cast396 3 жыл бұрын
Here's something no one is talking about, the abyss order operation and the last story of the traveler have the same name "loom of fate" (at least in the Spanish sub) And looking into the origins of "loom of fate" it backup certain theory / conceptions about a cyclic Teyvat and the concept of fate and predestination (also it leads again into the idea of 3 main deities above all the others) Pesonal take about Khaenri'ah: they may have been conquerors ~~
@CrowFGC
@CrowFGC 3 жыл бұрын
The quest was also called Involuntary Sacrifice, which implies the Grand Thief was sacrificed against his will.
@harukinakamura6630
@harukinakamura6630 3 жыл бұрын
It all makes sense now, scaramouche was right all along. And i think we will get answers from him in inazuma he will be the harbinger assigned to get the gnosis of raiden. The false sky that feeling of being watched in a sheltered eternity.
@Melodousine
@Melodousine 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that the original location of the 'Defiled Statue' is at Galesong Hill because Mondstadt (excluding Dragonspine) only has 4 Anemo Archon Statues while Liyue has 5. Also, there's Cape Oath, in the entrance to the Spiral Abyss( the portal, where there's a wind current ) it looks like there's supposed to be a statue which has been dug up from the ground.
@launone725
@launone725 3 жыл бұрын
the cape oath one is maybe the right one
@dawn2478
@dawn2478 3 жыл бұрын
that's such a good point, i never thought of that
@Michylawhty
@Michylawhty 3 жыл бұрын
That's a very interesting point with Cape Oath. Maybe the reason why the Spiral ABYSS came to be was because the statue went missing, and was replaced by a portal to the island with the spiral abyss which was the ABYSS order's doing.
@sadia6503
@sadia6503 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the theorizing. I spent my time after that quest depressed over the line "home is wherever we are together" like pls let them be happy together in the end
@aloywong658
@aloywong658 3 жыл бұрын
Lumine: Makes osial mk2 Aether: Ah shit here we go again...
@Recorderenjoyer
@Recorderenjoyer 3 жыл бұрын
Ur Everywhere dude
@aloywong658
@aloywong658 3 жыл бұрын
@@Recorderenjoyer yes, yes I am
@-dolsen-
@-dolsen- 3 жыл бұрын
I’m betting on inazuma to release info on khaenria regarding the gods side of the destruction. Maybe not by the god of inazuma herself but maybe by the quest line
@dempi3214
@dempi3214 3 жыл бұрын
i feel like Raiden will be the archon that is the most faithful to Celestia compared to the other archons due to her wanting to live for eternity and such so she just does everything Celestia asks her to do to keep herself safe, and with Gnosis hunt by the Fatui i feel like thats the reason she closed the borders in Inazuma in fear of even one Harbinger getting in, doesnt matter if her people suffer because of that or not she just wants to live lol
@dempi3214
@dempi3214 3 жыл бұрын
@@noahshreve5237 i mean we dont know if Celestia even cares or not lol, they didnt even pay attention to Fatui summoning an ancient god in Liyue that could've just destroyed most of Liyue killing lots of civilians so an archon not giving out visions could be the least of their worries
@user-vg3yc9lx4q
@user-vg3yc9lx4q 3 жыл бұрын
The darkness of the quest topped the sal terrae quest.
@tolgabal4128
@tolgabal4128 3 жыл бұрын
Aether:Lumine! Lumine:Aether... Paimon: w...wait ZhongliSimp she blocked the attack agains the abyss herald
@VinAbuqrq
@VinAbuqrq 3 жыл бұрын
It is important to note that the reason the Traveler hasn't asked questions about Khaenri'ah to Venti or Zhongli is that he only remembers this on the Prelude of this chapter (when he sees the dandelion smashed by the antagonist). He didn't have memories of the cataclysm when he met Venti or Zhongli.
@DOOMSDAY500
@DOOMSDAY500 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff man thank you for these videos, not much lore tubers for genshin and people like you are widely appreciated for the hard work you do to explain the story and and more! Thanks
@TeyvatHistoria
@TeyvatHistoria 3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@Panocek
@Panocek 3 жыл бұрын
With all that said... now throw in interaction between Anemo and Cryo archons: -we know "incident" happened 500 years ago that bittered relationship between the two greatly and left Tsaritsa "deeply changed" -500 years ago we know destruction of Khaenriah occurred, with Barbatos probably partaking in, while Tsaritsa stood for people of the godless nation, probably due to her (then) innate love and compassion. Love and compassion she no longer have, instead burning desire to topple Celestia, even if it might bring more destruction. Thus explaining why every current Cryo vision holder is plagued by inner conflict
@Ren_rz
@Ren_rz 3 жыл бұрын
Also something to think about remember the hallway we see lumine runnig through what if just what if it's not actually celestia but the royale palace of khenriah
@shaami8622
@shaami8622 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention abt Lumine's power being darkness while in the first cutscene at the start of the game, we see they had some sort of light power. So I think there are some sort of corruption going on with Lumine for taking the power of darkness to had believed Dainsleif is the enemy of the Abyss. As for why she would take such power, is probably because having witnessed the destruction, she was persuaded by the Abyss to take the power that would match the power that they had before so she can wage war against "destiny (the gods)". If this is the case, then expect to fight the sibling at some point of the game.
@chloebahuaud8397
@chloebahuaud8397 3 жыл бұрын
That could mean she is infected just like Dvalin was?
@tofu5052
@tofu5052 3 жыл бұрын
i forgot the exact line but lumine says something about how what she's doing is her destiny. but.... why? she and aether are not from teyvat why would something concerning khaenri'ah be her destiny to fulfill? she already tried to leave the destruction of khaenri'ah once (but then the unknown god stopped them), so what happened to make her change her mind and decide- nope instead of searching for aether and leaving im gonna help the abyss order take down celestia. thats the part im most curious about. especially because aether said "lets leave its dangerous" and she kinda basically ignored him, said nope u gotta go thru ur journey, and then left through that portal.
@eiko1490
@eiko1490 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr! Why just not leave teyvet why lumine have to go join the abyss?
@minxxd
@minxxd 3 жыл бұрын
I think by destiny she meant something having to do with celestial but I don’t remember exactly
@tofu5052
@tofu5052 3 жыл бұрын
@@minxxd in that case, why would something regarding celestia be her destiny either? she's not from teyvat why would their gods be her destiny to overthrow?
@glu9165
@glu9165 3 жыл бұрын
@@tofu5052 perhaps the twins are connected to celestia in some way and just don’t remember? They are extremely different compared to everyone else, not needing a vision or delusion to utilize the elements, being able to SWITCH elements. They might even be celestials that sympathized with the khaeri’ah and were cast out because of it? (I have no evidence for that last part, I’m just throwing stuff out there lol)
@finding_aether
@finding_aether 3 жыл бұрын
Destiny? She is gonna become a weekly boss and be beaten up by whales to no end😭
@vitare2802
@vitare2802 3 жыл бұрын
Dains was the protector of Khaenriah but he didnt do it resulting in the destruction of Khaenriah. But, what if the reason is, that the attacker was someone very close to him along with the gods? and at the end of our Journey, that will be the case as well ? will we protect Tevat againts Lumine or let her do her thing. :D
@TeyvatHistoria
@TeyvatHistoria 3 жыл бұрын
Well see!
@hikari9262
@hikari9262 3 жыл бұрын
Lumine's plan is to engulf the thrones, probably of Celestia, not destroy Teyvat.
@jeffreyoiy5337
@jeffreyoiy5337 3 жыл бұрын
I think lumine is not bad or antagonist like we all think shes supposed... Reason why She's the one who woke up first in kaenriah... Similar like aether who making friends with people of teyfat... Lumine probably making some good realtionship with the people of kaenriah too "strong bound" i guess.. and suddenly the the god destroy kaenriah bcuz they didn't want to praise the god.. and lumine witnessed all of that... She look the people she knew, her friends, or maybe someone she love geting wiped before her eyes... And she seek for revenge agains the god(celestial) not the "teyvat" to begin with its work for aether too if he woke up first he prob seekin revenge too(this is why they make a twin charater) cuz no matter what the fate still the same... And lumine is act may have a high chance to make god mad and teyvat prob have to take the wrath of the god... Thats why daenslief hate the gods but also prevent lumine to do her thing cuz daenslief know they not match the god yet...(for now)... This is why they make a twin character... So the story is similar to mirror but Just the opposite... Who ever we choose to be main charater the destiny already been writen... Both of them will Experience the same event but 1 fail and the other one success...
@jeffreyoiy5337
@jeffreyoiy5337 3 жыл бұрын
Just imagine god killing barbruuh, keqing, noelle and bennet and people of liyue + mondstat... In front of aether... Bruhhh the whole fan base down to fight against the god and burn miyoho company lmao
@xk2281
@xk2281 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyoiy5337 i probably would do more to crush mihoyo at that moment, they are greedy company but that is fine, but purposely killing the character we have grown to love and build from scratches is just unforgivable, imagine seing the one you simping died by mihoyo's story that would be fucked up.
@maverickmajor
@maverickmajor 3 жыл бұрын
Great discussion man, I really enjoy your analysis as well as your theories about the lore in this game. I’m a big lore nerd so content like this is what I look forward to. Keep up the good work!
@HearfourDataSS
@HearfourDataSS 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a tree in Honkai that destroyed worlds when they get too advanced? What if the gods destroyed Khaenriah in order to avoid a doomsday.
@eiarsan
@eiarsan 3 жыл бұрын
You know what? I feel like Khaenriah is basically the Previous Era world in Honkai and the Abyss Order is the World Serpent.
@novabunny2346
@novabunny2346 3 жыл бұрын
...the world serpent? Where have I seen a snake before... Cough gnostic Hymn cough
@hahaha-yf1nz
@hahaha-yf1nz 3 жыл бұрын
True genshin is another leaf of the imaginary tree after all
@FireNooodles
@FireNooodles 3 жыл бұрын
That one dendro character in Liyue has a snake too. Forgot his name.
@hame1g.luminas113
@hame1g.luminas113 3 жыл бұрын
Could Kaeya be the prince of Khaenriah? Who was the only one Dainsleif saved?
@amelianekomimi1936
@amelianekomimi1936 3 жыл бұрын
explains the eye
@dempi3214
@dempi3214 3 жыл бұрын
in Kaeya's story it said that he was sent by his father to Mondstadt as a Khaenri'ah agent, so there are probably some people who did manage to survive during the time when their nation got destroyed
@jad5375
@jad5375 3 жыл бұрын
@@dempi3214 kaeya must be with the abyss
@pidgeongguk8818
@pidgeongguk8818 3 жыл бұрын
@@jad5375 Well we don't know if he's actively with the abyss rn. His 'major decision' in the future will probably be to pick between fighting for Mondstat or Khaenri'ah
@tomato6138
@tomato6138 3 жыл бұрын
Can be, In the voice lines when Kaeya talks about Fischl, he says that if she's a princess for having a patch, him can be a future royal progeny too. Similar to when Katherine tells us about Dain and says he has a patch and Paimon says it might be related to Kaeya. I think that both things can be a foreshadow for the future to Kaeya.
@chanpyiuhs
@chanpyiuhs 3 жыл бұрын
I have a theory that the unknown god destroyed Kaenriah like we see in that Lumine trailer and Dainsleif and the Abyss misunderstood and they think it’s the seven. Also I think the ruin guards were sent to destroy the ancient cities (as they are coincidently at each of those places) and just ended up collapsing in the whereabouts of them. Edit: It seems the MC has lost their memory to a pretty high degree because they don’t really know their own name. The sibling calls you either Aether or Lumine depending on which one you play. Although it could just be lazy writing.
@Sleepy9412
@Sleepy9412 3 жыл бұрын
I'm of a similar opinion, I would like to see what zhongli and venti, being two of the oldest archons have to say. We really are only seeing this through dains side of the story.
@connerstewart7155
@connerstewart7155 3 жыл бұрын
i think the gods he refers to are not the archons but the gods in celestia
@HearfourDataSS
@HearfourDataSS 3 жыл бұрын
I think the MC still remembers their name. In-game, the name you give the MC is called a nickname.
@joshbrosh6626
@joshbrosh6626 3 жыл бұрын
@@connerstewart7155 yes although the other 5 may have done that since they were chosen 500 years ago once the previous once died maybe they oposed Celestia and were killed
@littleman6950
@littleman6950 3 жыл бұрын
@@HearfourDataSS But then this suggests there's a reason they keep their real names a secret. ...And now Paimon our chatty voice box knows.
@bendavis5291
@bendavis5291 3 жыл бұрын
Alchemy! Khaenri'ah had that advanced form of alchemy thsy Albedo uses. Thats probably how they would make the artificial god
@TeyvatHistoria
@TeyvatHistoria 3 жыл бұрын
Very possible indeed.
@harukinakamura6630
@harukinakamura6630 3 жыл бұрын
I have one question though, if kaeya is the prince of kaenriah why was he acknowledged by the gods and given a vision. Could it be that tsarita believes that kaeya will fullfill a dead prophecy for justice of the citizens of kaenriah... its all deep and getting dark. Plus albedo he is another sus character. He said before that he had the power to destroy monsdath. This makes him a very dangerous individual and maybe he can even be stronger than the geo archon himself considering zhongli is washed up. He no longer has his gnosis and stripped of with his godly abilities.
@TeyvatHistoria
@TeyvatHistoria 3 жыл бұрын
It’s worth noting here a few things. One. We don’t know who exactly grants a vision. Is it the archon of the element or the archon of the region. Two: Kaeya has a Cryo vision, if it’s element based then that suggest the Tsaritsa chose him for something.
@Spunksish
@Spunksish 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I will mention is that Aether does make it in time to the portal, but didn't have the capability of using it. I think it's because he doesn't have all the elements yet. I believe once he has them all, certain abilities will unlock including possibly combining all the elements in to one. I think this combined power was what Lumine and Dainslief were using, which is also why they were able to use the portal and Aether couldn't. Also if Dain had just ran towards the portal like Aether did, he would have definitely missed it because he was several feet behind Aether and that's why he used his ability.
@Hlast1
@Hlast1 3 жыл бұрын
I actually think it's something entirely different from the elements. Dain mentioned that elemental sight wouldn't work when retrieving the eye of the First Tiller. He also mentions a "power from beyond" the world in the Teyvat Story Preview trailer...
@MarkedOne98
@MarkedOne98 3 жыл бұрын
Paimon and Dainsleif having the same kind of cape makes me think that Paimon has some connection with Kaenriah
@drkufdrahrepus2868
@drkufdrahrepus2868 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Paimon’s stars on cape move
@yosh4084
@yosh4084 3 жыл бұрын
This story quest was so pivotal and important that I felt like the Genshin Impact logo was gonna pop up at the end of the cutscene. Lol.
@6r0k3n
@6r0k3n 3 жыл бұрын
Dain have the first ruin gurad eye... He said that it won't go to the wrong hands.... And then he followed lumine and... The statue need it to active... [what is he doing] And the first thing was that we're going back to there was to destroying the statue.... But nothing happen.....
@1oveiswar
@1oveiswar 3 жыл бұрын
The best channel lore, keep up the good work 👌
@TeyvatHistoria
@TeyvatHistoria 3 жыл бұрын
I will! Thanks!
@Ryzearn
@Ryzearn 3 жыл бұрын
The darkest moment of the game is when you find the special needs kid whose parents died and he thinks they are gonna come back I cried bro
@valivan5083
@valivan5083 3 жыл бұрын
if the abyss had the ability to create a manufactured God, could it be possible that the Unknown God is something similar?? I feel like we may have the wrong idea about her being a god, and maybe she was some kind of security system instead. she never once announced herself to be a god or an archon. tho i cant tell what side she was on, khaenri'ah or Celestia; our sibling being captured makes me think it was Celestia as the twins obviously have power equivalent/stronger than the archons, and possibly they were rescued by the Abyss. i think the destruction of khaenri'ah was most likely to be because they found a way to create a machine that rivals the archons/celestia, the same as what they were doing in this quest. I also dont think Venti had a part in this war, at least not an offensive one. He's always been around to protect Mondstadt, and i think he defended his land from the war. That could alsoo be why the cryo Archon cut ties with him because if Venti actually participated maybe things would have changed and the previous Dendro Archon would still be alive. I cant say much on Zhongli tho, i think if he was contracted into making a deal he would have participated, and it wasnt until recently he believed his people would be fine without him. It could be possible after all these years Zhongli contemplated his part in the war, and 500 years later he came to the conclusion that maybe...Teyvat would be better off without the Archons. Honestly i cant wait for what this game has in store for us. This quest gave us so much information, even tho most was confirming what we know. i also wis i caught this stream while it was live XD i had just missed it by the time i noticed. ill be here next time tho ^-^
@NARUTOnemesis
@NARUTOnemesis 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this new condensed discussion format! I would love to go through the longer form videos but it's difficult to find the time. This was an excellent listen for my drive to work and great analysis. Mihoyo really impressed me with this story quest and it gets me excited for Inuzuma.
@Ren_rz
@Ren_rz 3 жыл бұрын
Here's something to think about we know that aether and lumine did not wake up from the pod at the same time and as per lumine she travelled the lands while for aether when he woke up soon followed the destruction of khenriah and their departure from teyvat so my guess is tha their pods got seperated somehow after entering the atmosphere while lumine ended up somewhere in the vicinity of khenriah where her pod was probably opened and woke her from stasis, aether landed to a unknown isolated location where he still did not wake up . Desperate to search for aether lumine asked for khenriah's royalty for help to which they sent dansleif to accompany her through the lands since she was an outlander and knew nothing of this world plus she'd someone to fight alongside her since those days were probably filled with alot of danger compared to now ( to back that claim we know what happened with Xiao and company) so they sent one of their royale guards once she found aether s pod at the end of her journey without any tech support they couldn't wake aether so they brought him back to khenriah thus explaining the time gap between their awakening and the knowledge lumine had of this world
@clauddiusdew7862
@clauddiusdew7862 3 жыл бұрын
I think dain knows that celestia is behind everything and he does not want the archons and races of tevyat to suffer cause they are just pieces which are used by celestial beings/gods. whereas lumine wants to take revenge by destroying the seven and their people. so in tevyat tranquil dain asks us to show who is more worthy of telling/showing her this truth as both are near to her heart. And also i think dain would become our companion(secondary) and we will meet her(lumine) more often in following quests cause dain wants to show us that gods/seven were mere pieces used by celestia whereas lumine wants to show us that seven are behind everything. Though i think we need a detailed quest which tells us more about celestia, as this one did about kaenri'ah. And if we get one we could confirm many theories so, I don't think we are getting such quest in any near updates.
@SephTheHuntress
@SephTheHuntress 3 жыл бұрын
I hope the Raiden Shogun reveals what she knows, or even the Tsaritsa, so we get more understanding of Celestia
@Ren_rz
@Ren_rz 3 жыл бұрын
More + more to think about I don't think there's anyone stands above lumine in the abyss order coz during the divalin quest diluc did mention of learning that the abyss order got a leader under the code name pricess it is possible lumine taking the name princess signify's that she'll take revenge on the world as the princess of khenriah P.S. I'm happy that mihoyo decided to fix one brutal mistake with the princess bit when you play as lumine when diluc mentions of the leader of the above he calls aether PRINCESS while in this quest the herald refers to aether as prince if you choose lumine as the MC
@PumpkinHeadLemure
@PumpkinHeadLemure 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I would have loved to see ya go through the quest and hear your ideas as thing happened but of course having time to stew on the ideas is important too. Right now you're the only person that I think has a solid understanding and theories for the lore. All that being said! There is one point from this quest I didn't hear you touch on and I am curious about what you think. Before the part of her saying bye and that they have enough time she says something along the lines of "When you reach the end of your journey you'll discover the truth of this world." I have been wracking my brain on the possibilities ever since that one Fataui member during the meteor event said that the sky was a lie. Of course I'm not expecting you to know the answer but I would love to hear your ideas. What about this world could be such a lie, that we must discover the truth of it? Is there anything during this quest that you think could add to this specific part of the story beyond when we heard the sky was a lie? The fuq is going on here? The world can't be fake or why would the sibling care so much about vengeance... so what the hell might be the truth and the lie?
@bellaalleb9683
@bellaalleb9683 3 жыл бұрын
What bothers me is that the point of going back to the ruin is to destroy the statue, and yet we didnt. And now dainsleif is on the abyss' tail directly, to who knows where with the eye of the first field tiller. If they were to discover he had it with him and actually succeeded at taking the eye from him, wouldnt everything we did here be pointless?
@TeyvatHistoria
@TeyvatHistoria 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. I mentioned that myself near the end. We’ll see.
@matrixfull
@matrixfull 3 жыл бұрын
I love your focus on lore!! we need more lure discussions ! Genshin has so much of hidden lore gems . It's kinda odd with Dainsliff coz on one hand his nation was destroyed and turned into monsters by gods..and Abyssal is working against gods...but Dainsleff is indirectly working toward keeping gods because that means prevention of destruction of rest of Teyvant. Even tho he hates gods. Such an interesting complex. Abyss keeps chain of destruction going coz of no accepting present as okay balance. They seem to be fed by revenge. But at the same time they believe they are fighting for right cause. To stop the chain because in past gods were those who also seemed to do same. Irony. Especially if you think about it ...abyssal wants their own god..mechanical god..so in end they are becoming and replacing who they hate. It's gonna result in power shift but not justice shift.
@vietcuongnguyenle8530
@vietcuongnguyenle8530 3 жыл бұрын
From what i see, abyss try to creat a weapon strong like god, not creat a god
@Sraye
@Sraye 3 жыл бұрын
Aether and Lumine travel across worlds like 5* wishes, a meteorite.
@skylerknight792
@skylerknight792 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the Traveler IS a 5* character...
@JasHendrix
@JasHendrix 3 жыл бұрын
Inb4 there was an original Traveler, and the twins were just released on separate banners. The one that came first got a HUGE buff, because the second can use all elements...
@MartoPaskalev
@MartoPaskalev 3 жыл бұрын
Don't know how, but you nailed it with the 500 years apart theory!
@angelique_1615
@angelique_1615 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you dont know how long have i been waiting for this Literally after i finished the quest
@Cabbrickk
@Cabbrickk 3 жыл бұрын
Time to comment in non live chat, muahaha now TH won't see this so I'll...
@TeyvatHistoria
@TeyvatHistoria 3 жыл бұрын
Ahem....
@Cabbrickk
@Cabbrickk 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeyvatHistoria ehe~
@glu9165
@glu9165 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cabbrickk ehe, TE NANDAYO!
@Reaper-ml6ly
@Reaper-ml6ly 3 жыл бұрын
"Why did you make me do this? You're fighting so you can watch everyone around you die! THINK AETHER! You'll outlast every fragile, insignificant being in this world! You'll live to see Teyvat crumble to dust and BLOW AWAY! EVERYONE and EVERYTHING you know will be GONE! WHAT WILL YOU HAVE AFTER 500 YEARS?!?!?" - Lumine
@ashketchum596
@ashketchum596 3 жыл бұрын
Omg, I am so ecstatic over the fact that you’re pronouncing Zhongli’s name correctly 😍 respect points went through the roof
@mikethewordsmith4263
@mikethewordsmith4263 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 50k! And now I wonder how all this relates to the Unknown God, the Teyvat Chapter preview (specifically the Flame Archon), and the Contract to End All Contracts. Also, who was it that mentioned the Fatui being a deliberate distraction?
@ventibestboy574
@ventibestboy574 3 жыл бұрын
My Favorite Genshin Impact Historian. After i finished the archon quest i went back to watch your previous videos again
@Ren_rz
@Ren_rz 3 жыл бұрын
More things to think about since khenriah didn't have an element of their own what if they made their own the way dain ran past traveller at the end reminds of Flash and Quicksilver what if khenriah mastered space and time manipulation and that's what snapped the unknown god's patience which made her destroy them well in any verse(world) there's always an unspoken tulle "Not to mess with time and space" may that's the principle she was talking about
@seraphiicc
@seraphiicc 3 жыл бұрын
idk if this were in the stream cuz i havent watched all of it but im gonna talk about the things that i noticed. first off the field tiller or the ruin guard at the stormterror's lair looks towards at the direction of celestia. dain said he will take eye of the ruin guard and he wont let the eye get in the wrong hands, but later on he went into the portal WITH the eye, is he going to take the eye and give it to the abyss order?? we dont know. about kaeya, him saying "mi muhe ye" doesnt mean i love you in hilichurlian, it mean "i triumph over you" maybe kaeya holds a grudge against celestia and its gods. he might work with the abyss to take down celestia. and idk the unknown god said "the arrogation of mankind ends now" shes maybe talking about khaenri'ah since khaenri'ah was born without a god but thats just a theory, A GENSHIN THEORY .
@dawn2478
@dawn2478 3 жыл бұрын
does kaeya even know that venti is barbatos? he likely has his suspicions but iirc the only ones who found out were traveler, paimon, jean, and diluc. and i think what the unknown god said is about khaenriah yeah.
@cesarignjas
@cesarignjas 3 жыл бұрын
Traveling in meteorite directly points out in the way the wishes are delivered on the game, they came down in meteorites.
@OnigoroshiZero
@OnigoroshiZero 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best quests in the entire game so far. I was expecting the quest to be 15-20 minutes long (I think I was playing it for around 85-90 minutes), then Dainsleif appeared, the quest goes on and on, things happen, we fight the Herald once, some more things happen, we fight the Herald a second time, and then the sibling appears...I lost my fucking mind at that moment, I could not believe it happened so early and in such a way. After the quest ended, I was staring at the screen for 6-8 minutes. edit: GUYS, also why the hell the Traveler was NOT able to pass through the STILL OPEN PORTAL???? It is clearly shown that the Traveler got there in time and passed right through the portal when it was still open, without getting transferred wherever is was connected to. The portal close AFTER he passed through it and they made it clear with the visual effects. It was like he was denied access to whatever place it was connected to.
@Leo_Chan
@Leo_Chan 3 жыл бұрын
You should have streamed or recorded a live reaction to the quest to show initial reactions.
@FakeLeffty
@FakeLeffty 3 жыл бұрын
No he shouldn't.
@sangonomiyakokomi1054
@sangonomiyakokomi1054 3 жыл бұрын
No, it's just a mess
@cyno4055
@cyno4055 3 жыл бұрын
So basically the whole story has been said by mihoyo
@vitor900000
@vitor900000 3 жыл бұрын
26:54 Not really... She explored Teyvat 500 years ago before The Fall of Khaenri'ah. As Khaenri'ah was being destroyed she awake her brother and tried to flee to another world but both ended up being imprisoned by the Unknow God. At some point during the 500 years and the present she escaped her imprisonment. The date is unknow. The only thing we know is that it was a long time before her brother. And we still don't know where, how and when the brother awoke before meeting Paimon. 28:34 Agree. The battle pass cinematic "The Gnostic Chorus" while it have some similarities with the story of the Travelers there are many things that don't line up. What makes it weird is that at the end of the cinematic Venti says "This is the story of your Journey, of your tale to be told." but its more like a part of our story. Like the Traveler brothers story is directly connected to whoever those brothers are. One thing is certain the Sister of that cinematic is for sure the one commanding the Abyss order.
@petiteange08
@petiteange08 3 жыл бұрын
After this story quest, I was like... what if we (the MC) is the evil one, or at least on the wrong side, although unknowingly? After all, we go around stealing and killing without real remorse, but there have been hints that not all of our enemies are evil (such as the quests with Ella Musk where we communicate with the hilicurls).
@yariva6141
@yariva6141 3 жыл бұрын
I think the plot point about the Khaenrians is very interesting. Sounds to me like Xiao's squad who also turned evil. Maybe the archons initiated the buster call on Khaenria because the same thing which happened to the Xiao's peers was bound to happen to them too. That means that the cleansing 500 years ago wasn't the reason for them turning evil but something else
@Kaytcheup
@Kaytcheup 3 жыл бұрын
hey, just so you know: The whole "Godly entity wiping the human race from existence for being too technologically advanced" is *also* the core frame of Honkai Impact story. The main characters are pretty much fighting for this to not happen (again). Imho that pretty much confirmed that "Archons" are the 1:1 equivalent of "Herrscher", at least from a overarching goal perspective: Powerful entities under the command of a destructive "will" that only want humankind to go instinct the moment they get too far. If you want to learn more about it from Hi3 PoV you should take a look at the video called "Introducing the Honkai-verse | Honkai Operation Center Chapter 1 | Honkai Impact 3rd" from the official channel. Cheers!
@stick7535
@stick7535 3 жыл бұрын
OK OK TH I was going to wait untill the weekend for the stream but I need to talk about these things now: How about Khemia? It is the form of alchemy that the people of Khaenri'ah created for the creation of life and is also the alchemy that Albedo uses, there are a lot of quote lines about this. I saw a theory some time ago that the traveler and their sibling were trying originally to find a planet for their people to live, there is some mention of this in Honkai Impact, I instantly thought about this because of the moment that the sibling says something like "we can find another world later to call home" I don't quite recall it now but it is something like that. I don't quite remember the theory completely because I saw it months ago but in this moment it feels fitting even more. We almost predicted that the Treasure Hoarders were going to have an importance in this and mess with the abyss so it's just a hope of mine that they are going to be more important and they wil have some role in this, after all they have did something aginst the abyss and they lost one of their leaders, they must be angry, so I guess they'll have their importance in some moment. And last and most important. Beware THE ABYSS HOARDER
@teateakira5971
@teateakira5971 3 жыл бұрын
But didn’t one of the twins say home is wherever the other is? I don’t think they’d just leave out the rest of their people
@sugakookie1628
@sugakookie1628 3 жыл бұрын
Don't know if anyone else caught this but around 26:27 of the video, aether when he tries to enter the portal he has like a red(unknown god power as when she opens those stars) glow around him that keeps him from entering, and like he is the only who has it. Not even paimon when she chases after him has that glow on her. Maybe the unknown god left some sort of curse on him or possibly she is still using her powers on him? Just something that was weird I noticed lol
@alyssacrow5465
@alyssacrow5465 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if anyone else notice but Dain says that the reason they were called Field Tillers was because they were based on an idiom "the land is not to be tilled with farming tools, but rather fought for with steel and blood." Based on Paimon's response about the dark origin of the name, I immediately assumed that it meant Khaenri'ah was a war-based society. Thus, could it mean that Khaenri'ah actually brought upon themselves the destruction by the Gods by causing war? We also have to remember the destruction is in Dain's perspective, thus as the one scorned, I think he would probably blame the Gods before himself and his society?
@yeti9961
@yeti9961 3 жыл бұрын
When I heard that your theories and other peoples theories were right when the characters said in the story stuff that basically confirmed that stuff I was blown away by how much of these theories were real
@azurex-8194
@azurex-8194 3 жыл бұрын
DAMN! I love this stream Idea, keep up the amazing work
@strongsong117
@strongsong117 3 жыл бұрын
34:49 bc of the comments, I was like, "Paimon.. the hair! the crown!" lmao ...unless? (≧▽≦)
@ryrudy
@ryrudy 3 жыл бұрын
I think there's quite a lot of theorizing you can do with all the 'Field Tiller' (FT) info we got as well. I bet that Khaenriah was expecting to come into conflict with the gods and perhaps their 7 nations as well. They used these code names to likely hide the fact that they were constructing weapons of war from the gods. Also, being the most advanced nation, I doubt they would need weapons of war such as FTs and Ruin Hunters if it was only to defend against the other nations. Khaenriah was probably expecting this conflict to come quickly too. They created a prototype FT that could almost go toe-to-toe with Boreas at the height of his power, but instead of continuing to build powerful FTs they mass-produced less powerful ones. I con only think that the reason is because they needed to draw up their military power as soon as possible or because these weapons were meant for the other nations, not the gods. If you were going up against Celestia, wouldn't you want quality over quantity? The less powerful ones are still dangerous to the people of Teyvat and after the destruction of Khaenriah they dispersed to the other nations. Maybe that's what they were supposed to do. Dain's theory that the might be attracted to ruins of other old civilizations doesn't seem like a good expanation to me. He's a high ranking Khaenrian that knows everything about FTs except for why they dispersed across the world? If his line was true, wouldn't they just be attracted to the ruins of Khaenriah? We also know Jean had to stop a bunch of them from reaching Mondstadt. Finally, that line 'the land...is to be fought for with steel and blood' came across as slightly insidious to me; more offensive than defensive' Knowing Mihoyo, I doubt that Celestia destroyed Khaenriah ONLY because they were offended by their lack of worship(though it was probably a significant factor). I just doubt that it would be so black and white. Maybe they were worried that Khaenriah would for some reason harm the nations that did worship them? Otherwise, why wait until Khaenriah was a super power before smiting them? There's probably zero connection to this but most of the smiting the God of the Bible did to unbelievers was when it would benefit or protect the actual believers. He didn't just smite unbelievers just to smite unbelievers. The closest thing I can think of was the ancient Babylonians, but to them he just confused their language so they couldn't act as one nation, not destroy them. Again, really reaching. I look forward to this story going deeper and deeper.
@TheJokieliu
@TheJokieliu 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! ive been waiting for TH to post since this quest is out!
@KCstark.
@KCstark. 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be waiting for your vid for explanation!! missed the stream
@shizurokitadashi4160
@shizurokitadashi4160 3 жыл бұрын
tsaritsa, is to use the power of other gods along with her lumine, revive and manipulate a enhanced god dain, to spy on the abyss order with he's plan still a mystery
@lukoka6371
@lukoka6371 3 жыл бұрын
maybe by the gods he means, overseers of celestia , the shadowy figures we see when vanessa asks about celestia in the manga, also from what i understand the tsarista wants to oppose celestia not other 6
@dark-lord-vinay
@dark-lord-vinay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! The lore in Genshin is so deep and amazing for a F2P "Mobile" Game
@moosupernova
@moosupernova 3 жыл бұрын
I know I'm late, but I like listening to your vids. Haven't heard anyone talk about this, but I find it interesting that the Traveler basically suggests to Twin that they should drop everything and ditch Teyvat. It makes sense for an immortal world-hopper. Contrast that to Twin's insistence on staying, like whatever fight is going on is worth fighting. Also, Paimon didn't even get offended at the idea of you leaving. Narrative slip up or maybe she has some knowledge we don't? 👀
@MrMichelangelo
@MrMichelangelo 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't finished watching the video yet, but yesterday just as I finished that quest I came up with question, why Dain is against the Abyss Order if it's objective is to dethrone Celestial gods? Dainsleif himself isn't pious person, for obvious reasons. He didn't mention what is his private goal but we can assume he's fighting with Celestia and gods too, or at least trying to find redemption. So, why does he want to prevent Abyss from reaching their objective? Is it because an Unknown God is his sister, what is mentioned in Gnostic Chorus/Battle Pass? She could be corrupted by some "force" (just like Honkai force in Honkai Impact) or by somebody's influence and she destroyed her homeland (Khaenri'ah) all by herself, that's why he wants to save her, bring her back the memories of old times when two of them were in Khaenri'ah before it's destruction The only reason I came up why Dain is opposing Abyss Bonus panel I think Albedo may be a homunculus with an ego of Gold, that's why Albedo said that "it may be possible he will try to destroy Mondstadt so MC has to be able to stop him"
@Azooshiii
@Azooshiii 3 жыл бұрын
LEGIT as soon as I played this quest I thought I NEED TRY AT HISTORIA TO DECIPHER THIS
@sayHeLL02mySwag
@sayHeLL02mySwag 3 жыл бұрын
We need a summary of this! Thanks man!
@fintzwaltstein5484
@fintzwaltstein5484 3 жыл бұрын
Theres 2 (3, but the third does not physically exist) MANTIS warriors (some sort of Modified Soldiers) in the Honkai Impact 3 "Previous Era" timeline, thats 50,000+ years old that is still alive in the present (Current Era). So its possible that the twins we have in Genshin Impact are MANTISs with modified DNA/body to make them immortal. Just a guess really, maybe these two titles are not connected at all, but Dvalin did show up on Otto's screen during the Fallen Rosemary event cutscene where Otto is looking/observing a possible alternate timeline with Fallen Rosemary on the left screen, and Dvalin on the right.
@karmajay8540
@karmajay8540 3 жыл бұрын
lore!
@ashish_ramola6578
@ashish_ramola6578 3 жыл бұрын
Well I think Venti didn't help Dainslef 500 yrs ago to protect Khaunria, that's why I think he says on the lines of......God's have never helped him in the past.
@SephTheHuntress
@SephTheHuntress 3 жыл бұрын
Okay so, I had a thought about why Aether couldn't go through the portal, even though he was barely a second behind. So, since Lumine has an Abyssal like power, perhaps Dain shares a purified form of Abyssal power, one he purified through reflection of within or whatnot. Perhaps Venti gave him some answers he sought? But Aether was unable to go through because he has no ties to the Abyss. Food for thought?
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