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[TF2] Crafting is Crap

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SpaceGuyOnline

SpaceGuyOnline

Күн бұрын

Some guy complains about the crap crafting than can be created in TF2. Clearly, a small central category of characters will care about this century-old concept.
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@Small_child_punter
@Small_child_punter 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a newer player and I desperately waited for the random drop system to give me a weapon I didn’t have.
@sergeychistov8162
@sergeychistov8162 2 жыл бұрын
I still waiting for weapons to drop. As more experienced player, can you give me some tip or advice of how to deal with getting weapons I don't possess?
@beautifulnova6088
@beautifulnova6088 2 жыл бұрын
I crafted a few of the weapons I wanted and didn't have, like the crossbow back when it first came out and the short circuit back when it was terrible.
@AmalekIsComing
@AmalekIsComing 2 жыл бұрын
FUUUUUUUUUUUG
@Capiosus
@Capiosus 2 жыл бұрын
as a f2p i will continue to do this
@Small_child_punter
@Small_child_punter 2 жыл бұрын
@@Capiosus only a handful of unlocks are actually better than stock, or different enough to be worth using sometimes. Shit like the black box, panic attack, or razorback aren’t worth waiting for since they’re not that remarkable.
@HaydenTheHistorian
@HaydenTheHistorian 2 жыл бұрын
Having to manually add 200 weapons when creating a collector's item is one of the most agonizing thing one can do in a video game
@autistazinha
@autistazinha 2 жыл бұрын
at least it's better than unboxing 200 cases
@knavenformed9436
@knavenformed9436 2 жыл бұрын
The suffering adds to the reward
@jamiehughes5573
@jamiehughes5573 2 жыл бұрын
Especially when kits cost more than the item you create
@G.J._Pods
@G.J._Pods 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has a Collector's Atomizer, I can agree with this.
@mr.sabaton2539
@mr.sabaton2539 2 жыл бұрын
once i had a random drop give me a collector's scorch shot kit, it was waaaaaay before the big trading sites became so popular that you can gat that 200 weapons in 3 clicks, so it was a feat getting that 200 scorch shots in the first place. I did it then spent weeks trying to find a buyer, damn it was a relief when i got rid of it at a decent price.
@michaelawesome1864
@michaelawesome1864 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, I value crafted cosmetics heavily. That little "Craft by" makes it really worth it for me, it's like a one-of-a-kind item that's unique to me(or whoever crafted it)
@elisttm
@elisttm 9 ай бұрын
agreed ive done this with every possible cosmetic i use and as many weapons as possible simply because its silly
@alexanderchristopher4151
@alexanderchristopher4151 12 күн бұрын
this is why i still have my first jag
@monkfish2047
@monkfish2047 5 күн бұрын
Craftable hats are mostly pretty good
@sheehan3204
@sheehan3204 2 жыл бұрын
I crafted the dead of night before, a cosmetic that goes for around 38 ref so i spent 3 ref for a 38 ref cosmetic and i was pretty happy... until i realized i used untradeable ref to make the cosmetic untradeable moments like these make me wish i had a time machine
@alynross5052
@alynross5052 2 жыл бұрын
one word. 'pain.'
@amogusbad3237
@amogusbad3237 2 жыл бұрын
Man...
@bigdued7039
@bigdued7039 2 жыл бұрын
O U C H I E U C H I E
@nscaocnjs
@nscaocnjs 2 жыл бұрын
Been there...
@Syamfprch
@Syamfprch 6 ай бұрын
Honestly it could be , well alright? if you don't wanna trade it and don't want to go through spending money on the game.
@springtrapanimations2304
@springtrapanimations2304 2 жыл бұрын
As one of the luckiest people on the surface of TF2 apparently I was able to craft the sharp dresser, the YER reskin, the quackbert-t (stock watch reskin) and the AWP-hand on the first try with the class token way
@retrorez7898
@retrorez7898 11 күн бұрын
I was somehow the recipient of a pair of Dangeresque Too shades via Giftapult so i feel
@ShovelLettuce
@ShovelLettuce 2 жыл бұрын
The crafting system must've been designed by Saxton Hale. it just feels like so in character for him to do (from the comics) because of the absurdity of it, and also because he makes a giant stinking profit.. All the while the ones at the recieving end are at the mercy of his whims.
@prosto_a_user
@prosto_a_user 2 ай бұрын
what's next? Random crits are a prank from him?
@lordrj4203
@lordrj4203 26 күн бұрын
Definitely a way to get rid of the excessive amount of Force-of-Nature s that he has lol
@aSmallGreenDot
@aSmallGreenDot 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously the rocket jumper and sticky jumper should be easier to get cause part of the point of them is to practice jumping
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 2 жыл бұрын
They should be unlocked either at the start or in a really easy achievement
@basilsnsunflowers
@basilsnsunflowers 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmurray1110 rocket jump/sticky jump for the first time
@vijaysabarish9600
@vijaysabarish9600 Жыл бұрын
Do u know how to get the rocket jumper i got the sticky jumper but not the rocket one
@jakestaheli8532
@jakestaheli8532 5 ай бұрын
They should also have no clip size, seriously, why slow down the process of learning these valuable skills?
@cactusgamingyt9960
@cactusgamingyt9960 19 күн бұрын
​@@jakestaheli8532 Imagine trolldiers with an infinite clip
@TBRACKET
@TBRACKET 2 жыл бұрын
I'll still saying that the Golden Wrench need to be added back at the Crafting system with a stupid low chance o 0.20 or something. When im bored i like to turn my refs into craftable hats and then pass them to my brother
@jaredhebert942
@jaredhebert942 2 жыл бұрын
@Steve if this proposed change were added, you can easily upgrade the original Golden Wrenches to Vintage or Genuine Quality ahead of the respective update
@Pasha231514
@Pasha231514 2 жыл бұрын
@Steve golden gunboat.
@SpaceGuyOnline
@SpaceGuyOnline 2 жыл бұрын
Think there's only around 16~ legit gold wrenches left so
@thepumpkindoctor
@thepumpkindoctor 2 жыл бұрын
.2 is still pretty high. make that 0.02 or lower.
@cowserthekhelinace
@cowserthekhelinace 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if you could craft Golden Wrenches again, not only should it be absurdly low and not cheesable with Engie/Melee tokens, but it could also retain the 100 Wrench Limit from long ago. To not screw out the ones who still have theirs from the original moment, they can have it upgraded to not only Strange (if they aren't already), but also Genuine or Vintage, or even Ancient, especially if it comes with a new Crafting Update like the Mann-conomy Update adding Vintage.
@checkp0int885
@checkp0int885 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how a 14 year old game has some outdated content
@AParticularlyPointySoldier
@AParticularlyPointySoldier 2 жыл бұрын
@@smugplush lmao that’s a good one
@creativecipher
@creativecipher 2 жыл бұрын
@@smugplush Do you people want valve to focus only on tf2?? Like, nothing else, just tf2
@guniverse.5847
@guniverse.5847 2 жыл бұрын
@Creative Cipher, at this point we just want them to fix their game that they advertise as “Functional” and on there steam page they said it’s “Frequently updated” Rant over.
@beautifulnova6088
@beautifulnova6088 2 жыл бұрын
@@creativecipher I think most people just want valve to either shit or get off the pot at this point. Either do *anything* with tf2, or contract it out to a third party to manage, or just admit they aren't going to do anything with it and leave it up to the community to keep it going for however long that lasts.
@isaiahsimmons5776
@isaiahsimmons5776 2 жыл бұрын
not long ago at all. valve are just tryhards.
@MrChizzle
@MrChizzle 2 жыл бұрын
I love the inclusion of Terraria music, as that game also has ludicrous crafting trees
@GoniMineCraft
@GoniMineCraft 2 жыл бұрын
I'm am new and f2p, its useful when I'm scraping weapons your either not good at using or is uninterested and trying to get the ones I want, due to f2ps only having limited storage. my main complaint is that it's so unnecessarily expensive and inconsistent.
@evoricer2649
@evoricer2649 2 жыл бұрын
@Blackout thanks i was wondering how do I get the backpack expander i should wait 5 months
@llmkursk8254
@llmkursk8254 2 жыл бұрын
I think the next logical step to take here is the Killstreak Kits. By playing a specific game mode, on a specific couple of maps, and complete 4 rounds on that map, you get items that allow you to track your kills per life, as well as Fabricators that require the odd Robot Parts and a Killstreak item to give your Killstreak a shiny ripple effect over the weapon, or have your eyes bleed out the same color as an effect. Some kits, even the basic tier ones, go for a fair bit of money thanks to demand, even some fabricators, while most fabricators are only worth 3¢ because you have to put forth the effort. And there are even weapons out there that don’t have Killstreak Kits, the biggest example being the Crossing Guard, which, while having a strange variant, does not have its own Killstreak Kit. The only way to get one is to pay hundreds of dollars for one, by getting a glitched universal kit.
@Pinkooru
@Pinkooru 2 жыл бұрын
Funny seeing you here funny pangolin
@BBoy-Kun
@BBoy-Kun 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@Vukan.Kos.
@Vukan.Kos. 2 жыл бұрын
Let's get a VAC update then do all you want with your suggestions.
@Pinkooru
@Pinkooru 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vukan.Kos. That's a pretty funny joke
@MrTriple3D
@MrTriple3D 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pinkooru same with the quality of life suggestions
@ToxicSalad420
@ToxicSalad420 2 жыл бұрын
"Weapon reskins" such wise words from a wise man.
@sandvicheatfresh
@sandvicheatfresh 2 жыл бұрын
you can craft a pda slot token with 3 invis watches. i have crafted 3 of them and they serve no purpose
@013wolfwarrior
@013wolfwarrior 2 жыл бұрын
Cant you craft the pipboy with those?
@Fire.and.Forget
@Fire.and.Forget 2 жыл бұрын
you can craft a rare watch that called quackenbirdt with it
@karnickel-s33d16
@karnickel-s33d16 2 жыл бұрын
Use the giftapult with on them and disappoint random people
@013wolfwarrior
@013wolfwarrior 2 жыл бұрын
Nope I chwcked the wiki since its a cosmetic not a weapon
@kingkhalif
@kingkhalif 5 ай бұрын
That..... actually made my jaw drop WHO can think of that even like a few week ago i didnt know that you can craft more weapon by scrolling the thing..
@spycrabreviews7201
@spycrabreviews7201 2 жыл бұрын
I have only ever crafted one item: The Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker
@Lush_Produce
@Lush_Produce 2 жыл бұрын
I have only crafted 2 hats one I forgot and the 2nd from using a refined and another hat have created the crones drone which I painted green
@BigHailFan
@BigHailFan 2 жыл бұрын
I have a clean one of those from a long time player.
@DFFilmmaker
@DFFilmmaker 2 жыл бұрын
I crafted 2 conscientus objectors and profitted 8 ref so its not that useless
@darknight602
@darknight602 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigHailFan lots do
@BigHailFan
@BigHailFan 2 жыл бұрын
@@darknight602 you could only get it clean from a very limited time frame after it was introduced. since then the majority are untradeable
@woodywas4549
@woodywas4549 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the ability to get reskins via token crafting is probably the only viable use for this system. Get a sniper token and a melee token, and you have a pretty high chance of getting a reskin (as sniper only has like 3 unlockable melee weapons) Also, you have 1/3 chance of getting a Quackenbirt invis watch reskin as well, so yea, thats cool PS. You can also craft a Conscientious Objector if you're lucky, so thats neat too
@owenblount7334
@owenblount7334 2 жыл бұрын
Or you can craft an awp like I did
@woodywas4549
@woodywas4549 2 жыл бұрын
@@owenblount7334 I was thinking about it too, however the odds are rather slim tbh. But if you're feeling lucky- go ahead
@seva7500
@seva7500 11 ай бұрын
What slot is watches?
@woodywas4549
@woodywas4549 11 ай бұрын
@@seva7500 Im not sure tbh, but its on the wiki My guess is either slot 2 or pda, tho I cant remember which is sapper and which is the watch
@seva7500
@seva7500 11 ай бұрын
@@woodywas4549 I searched it up, apparently there’s a PDA slot token and I had no idea. Only way to craft is using spy’s watches. Which is odd because you’d already have all 3 of the unique watches at that point and it requires 3 watches to craft. Maybe a special engineer PDA was planned?
@thefruityking6722
@thefruityking6722 2 жыл бұрын
Man this game is so beginner/newbie-unfriendly it's crazy. When I first got the game in 2020 I felt like a peasant that entered some extravagant club. And the monetization of this game is extremely gross, as if Valve don't make enough money as it is.
@spiffyavatar3611
@spiffyavatar3611 2 жыл бұрын
I had a similar experience with being a newbie TF2 in recent times. I was ready to go in a game and to enjoy the chaotic team fun that I've heard so much about, only to be disappointed by having half of my expected experience cut through being stuck with stock weapons and F2P communication limitations. It was weird not being able to pass a sandwich to a teammate or call "MEDIC", things that were iconic and what I was hoping for. Trying to get out of this newbie limbo is needlessly complicated. I was relying on the unfinished ingame tutorials and the unrealistic CPU training to integrate myself fully into the game, which did basically nothing in the face of complex valve jankiness. The worst part is the items. Mannco store is basically a scam, but with being new to the game, it really seems like the only option. I almost paid a full dollar for BONK. The class crates that give you all of their respective weapons costs over TWENTY dollars. Just to have all the weapons for ONE class.
@shinyrayquaza9
@shinyrayquaza9 2 ай бұрын
@@spiffyavatar3611 If you rent a weapon you can get p2p tf2 for 50c
@icedqq
@icedqq Ай бұрын
@@spiffyavatar3611 my first ever purchase was a fucking scout class crate for 10 dollars. i wish i'd just bought 5 keys with that money, could've done so much more
@thegrayshadow7676
@thegrayshadow7676 2 жыл бұрын
Lately, I've focused on the "Set headgear" recipes because those are the ones that I actually know I would get. Can we also talk about how easy it is to screw up and craft your own achievement items? Seriously, why couldn't Valve have made those uncraftable to begin with?
@SpaceGuyOnline
@SpaceGuyOnline 2 жыл бұрын
They display a little warning saying the craft product won't be tradeable however, it happens in the very start of the video
@Bandedseakrait
@Bandedseakrait 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpaceGuyOnline Highly true.
@danielsurvivor1372
@danielsurvivor1372 2 жыл бұрын
I remember long ago(2015-2018? Don't remember) I asked steam support to restore some items(I think it was definitely seal mask, pyrovision goggles, merc badge and maybe some other 1 or two hat) and all my achievement weapons. They restored all my missing achievement hats n cosmetics but NOT achievement weapons. Ik it's somewhat pointless but for me those are trophies in their own right... And now they're gone forever
@beautifulnova6088
@beautifulnova6088 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielsurvivor1372 you can get them back if you're willing to throw metal at it. Unless you deleted them entirely you'll have something flagged as untradable because it's an achievement item, so you just need to craft that into refined, smelt the refined into reclaimed, combine the reclaimed with "clean" reclaimed and so on until you have enough metal to craft whatever achievement weapons you're missing. Every achievement weapon in the game has a recipe specifically for it.
@ben-brady
@ben-brady 2 жыл бұрын
I made that mistake a long time ago, lost my gibus
@nmeister007
@nmeister007 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason I feel the Solemn Vow’s ludicrous recipe is meant to be interpreted as getting a urine sample from the other 8 classes so you can figure out how to see their HP regardless of team. A lot of the recipes seem to follow that sort of logic, so I think it tracks.
@jinkschuvisko8772
@jinkschuvisko8772 8 ай бұрын
Wow, there's characterization even in crafting
@LittleBigBwner
@LittleBigBwner 2 жыл бұрын
I remember years back when I first learned about crafting, one of the first things I ever crafted and was going for was The Sharp Dresser. I was a huge AC nerd at the time too so it was really awesome. Another one of the other first things I crafted was The Unarmed Combat - something else I was going for. I just got really lucky that day, I crafted about everything I wanted first or second try
@transhumanistgamer8963
@transhumanistgamer8963 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that gets me is that there's a lot of different weapons in TF2, and having to go through page after page to find a weapon for the class you picked earlier is a slog. It seems like a relatively easy fix: If you select a Scout weapon for the first slot, the second slot only shows Scout weapons. The same for every other class.
@theonewalnut5451
@theonewalnut5451 2 жыл бұрын
The only time I would recommend that new players use the crafting system is to rebuild halloween exclusive headgear that they get from Scream Fortress contracts. Other than that, it's a complete waste of time.
@dr.pastor
@dr.pastor 2 жыл бұрын
I like how each video animation gets better. And how your commentary is fun and informative Keep up the great work man. Also, the only crafted thing I made was the awperhand first try 😎
@nir4s63
@nir4s63 2 жыл бұрын
Finding duplicates in horizontal menu is pain, Finding a recipe you're intested in is pain, 95% of the screen is not utilized, just text and few boxes, Finding weapons to get metal is pain(at least without MvM grind), It's just as outdated as the engine the game runs on.
@nightram6164
@nightram6164 2 жыл бұрын
So story time When I first started out tf2, I was pretty damn dumb, but I wanted to get myself a cool looking hat or cosmetic That's when I found out about the crafting system of tf2, and was shocked by the fact that I have to smelt a crap ton of weapons to make scrap. I thought to myself "that's easy, I get a random free weapon in some games and I like using 2 classes." And boy I was so wrong because I didn't know how the drop system works. After months of playing games to get randomly dropped weapons and then smelt them to scrap, I finally had 3 reclaimed metal and was about to craft myself a hat. Then, at that moment, I found out that f2p players like me can't craft hats. Afterwords I got pissed and then just crafted a bunch of different weapons using the remaining scrap and other weapons available to me.
@ChompDude
@ChompDude 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing I ever really crafted was the Horsemann's Headtaker. It was always more profitable to use metal for trading.
@JouvaMoufette
@JouvaMoufette 2 жыл бұрын
If by "extra line of text" you mean the "Crafted By", you can use the restore option to remove it
@SP4RKMGAMES
@SP4RKMGAMES 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno man, grinding all my hats into more hats is alot of fun.
@laysone346
@laysone346 2 жыл бұрын
Less hats
@S_--
@S_-- 2 жыл бұрын
Even a change as tiny as having the crafting recipe for some items shifted, like having the headgear craft be 1 refined and 2 reclaimed instead of 3 refined would be welcomed because it now gives an incentive to try for that small percentage of a well priced hat.
@marcfiftyfive_
@marcfiftyfive_ 2 жыл бұрын
your sfm animations really improved since the last time i watched your vids
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 2 жыл бұрын
2:12 I fashion myself a fairly simple man. I hear Terraria music, I press the like button.
@jadedninny3212
@jadedninny3212 2 жыл бұрын
6:50 You dare think I missed that drg music, man?
@kobwmoose
@kobwmoose 2 жыл бұрын
I think it has potential if the system got revamped, possibly a good metal sink (you know, like what it's supposed to be in the first place.)
@The_D_ray
@The_D_ray 2 жыл бұрын
3:40 I lost a lung to this part. It was TOO good.
@alextygesen3101
@alextygesen3101 2 жыл бұрын
5:54 ok it is kinda chilling to hear you say that considering that is my exact date of birth
@predator5775
@predator5775 2 жыл бұрын
While I mostly use this system to craft refined/hats, I have used on occasion to craft some unique reskins. I'm surprised you didn't mention the Nostromos Napalmer since that Flamethrower skin is also craftable.
@SpaceGuyOnline
@SpaceGuyOnline 2 жыл бұрын
That's because it wasn't above 3 ref price while writing the script. It is now at 3 ref and 1 scrap.
@refusingtoconform
@refusingtoconform 2 жыл бұрын
Got a few rapid-fire pieces of feedback for ya Space for your personal use (and to help those algorithm gains): 1. Really like how you interjected your usual use of alliteration into the script. Sprinkling it with other commons phrases and using it to complement your train of thought rather than gargling your point and leaving us with a backwash of thesaurused synonyms adjacent to the point is much more satisfying. 2. TF2's inventory system is one of the most interesting piece of minute but it is also painfully outdated, especially for those simply wanting to gather all possible weapons for their loadouts. Cosmic Afro proposed in a years' old video that there could be a system where by sacrificing Unique versions of weapon, we should be able to get infinitely useable versions of unlocks that don't take up backpack space. At the time, he dubbed it an "Arsenal" and he proposed it would act as the Stock weapons do. Graying out the item quality to show that these are semi-permanent features in the player's inventory. 3. You've really come a long way in terms of your SFM skills. Really goes to show that you've learnt a lot just by doing this for a few years of editing and trying out the tool. 4. When it comes to crafting hats, I find that it's pretty fun to buy up a couple keys worth of Refined just to mass craft hats as giveaways/gifts for random players or friends I make in-game, like how some do mass Secret Saxton gifting. My biggest complaint with this process though is that there's no way to batch the process and Ref, as a commodity, is a constantly expanding community resource that most people aren't doing anything with. Calling back to Cosmic Afro and the Virtual Economist, there should be a more convenient way to sink massive amounts of metal into the crafting system, draining our digital coffers of this mostly worthless currency while getting a kickback for the hassle. A few people have proposed the ability to craft non-tradable consumables like Mann Co. Tickets or Keys but I'd, personally, rather see something similar to the Meat Your Match or War! updates where we donate Metal to our side in a conflict and the winner would decide on a global reward. Maybe it could be similar to the Robo-Crates or be a curated collection of cosmetics that we want to see in the next crate. Like a collection based on the old Frontline or Courve community projects or re-entering unused Invasion cosmetics and maps.
@Adir-Yosef
@Adir-Yosef 2 жыл бұрын
for the last point i disagree i totally want untradeable/unmarketable tickets of duty and supplies squad create because it will make MVM not such a cash grab (and probably a lot more people will use the supply squad crate tickets which i would like)
@cosmix0072
@cosmix0072 2 жыл бұрын
I'll admit that I actually actively use this system, whenever I have weapons to spare, I actually find it kind of interesting and would love to see it fleshed out more. I got my Scorch Shot and Quickiebomb Launcher that way. I had the weapons and SM to spare so I decided to go for it.
@blacklight683
@blacklight683 2 жыл бұрын
9:30that would change a lot cuz most of the hats in the economy are crafted so the prices will go up(for the unique ones) but the crafted ones will either crash or be under 3ref
@caramelldansen2204
@caramelldansen2204 2 жыл бұрын
When you think about it, TF2 has _really_ bad quality of life for UI / backpack / equippables / basically-anything-that-isn't-shooting-at-guys-once-you're-in-a-server
@isaiahsimmons5776
@isaiahsimmons5776 2 жыл бұрын
even the shooting sucks. also fun fact, there's like about 4 and 7 uis overlays constantly on.
@anaveragefern
@anaveragefern 2 жыл бұрын
@@isaiahsimmons5776 I think the shooting is fun; very satisfying when you kill another player
@isaiahsimmons5776
@isaiahsimmons5776 2 жыл бұрын
@@anaveragefern yeah with all of those animations, sounds, numbers, ragdolls, gibs, but only aesthetically. shooting itself is boring they don't do anything out of the box with it or have fun. they're literally just half-life weapons for the most part, rpg, pistol, shotgun, literally nothing cool with them, so uncool that developer need to add crits or make items based on crits to make these defaults to have anything worthwhile. other weapons really show jank and how busted tf game design is, like knife that instantly kills from the back or hell if ur lucky just butterknife them as if theyre low they die in 1 or 2 hits becuz it does 40 damage, useless nailguns, shitty smg u basically need to spam and destroy ur wrist to use well, hundreds of useless melees, may as well be the crowbar from half-life. no wonder why they added cosmetic items, they realize just how boring and how u eventually hate seeing this shit over and over. all valve had done with gunplay was make everything mundane. u have boomer shooters like quake, doom, unreal, which really big on projectiles and high damage, then u have valve where all they been doing is just the average joe stuff, no wonder why all of the cool scifi items they added suck balls, they don't know have to make them after just making mundane weapons. this is little better then those boomer shooters as they don't necessarily need a gimmick. in doom it fucking boring playing with shotgun, in tf2 it fun playing with shotgun. doom try make it more exciting by giving u double barrel shotgun, super shotgun. valve does that but in half-life making shotgun itself fire double and in tf2 making whole weapon just for scout for firing a lot of powerful shotgun shots, tho weakened of course. tfc even had the super shotgun, as it nearly quake tf remade in half-life. that is the gun design they have, making everything average, weaken it, becuz if everything is then nothing is. its balanced 90% of the shooting and items in this game are reused anyways, so once u seen one u basically seen them all. nothing wrong with asset reusing but it get boring. the animations feel so bad after a while, no wonder why people download custom animations.
@RobotnikPlays
@RobotnikPlays 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with all of this. I also wish achievement items were completely uncraftable, and were treated similar to stock items (i.e. don't take up backpack space), because I'm sick of selecting them in the scrap menu :P
@legogonkdroid3630
@legogonkdroid3630 2 жыл бұрын
SGO: what’s the most useless thing in tf2? The sharpened volcano fragment
@privatepessleneck
@privatepessleneck 2 жыл бұрын
worth noting the token smelting giving a reclaimed is probably because in the past you needed three weapons to make a single scrap. But I think the main problem with crafting right now is that it has fallen behind on the times so to speak, and is not as practical for newer players who have less stuff.
@sebastjanjapelj9393
@sebastjanjapelj9393 2 жыл бұрын
I had once an Idea for an update (named " The New Mann update") where it would refine most of mechanics of the game. One of those would be weekly contracts. It would give objective to the player every week and completing it would give a item depending on the contract difficulty and rarity. One of the examples would be to send said amount of scrap, refined or reclaimed metal. It would give mostly descent loot. Would it fix the many of problems for the crafting system? No, but it would at least give purpose to crafting and the to dust covered metal siting in the inventory of traders hoping the value of them would become better.
@kirby9759
@kirby9759 2 жыл бұрын
honestly, I find random crits funny when it's perfectly timed other times, it is mildly annoying, but I don't get upset at those, I just laugh it off also, ignoring the reskins, I've pretty much gotten everything single weapon from the random drops, and I have a few hundred hours in TF2
@Iinventedthecreeper
@Iinventedthecreeper 2 жыл бұрын
although it is a total waste from an economical standpoint, i LOVE crafting using untradeable metal and getting some untradeable weapons and hats in return. as a result of this mechanic, i own every weapon, including craftable reskins, so i never have to worry about missing anything ever again. as of writing, i also own 12 pages of untradeable cosmetics, and 5 pages of untradeable halloween cosmetics.
@eethannnn
@eethannnn 2 жыл бұрын
thabk you red button man for the new and informative video essay on a cool and underused mechanic in this small indie game i love you
@OfficialBleplandsRepsesentive
@OfficialBleplandsRepsesentive Ай бұрын
me watching the tf2 video:Time to play some TF2! me hearing the DRG swarm soundtrack:Time to play some DRG!
@daandroid614
@daandroid614 2 жыл бұрын
the funniest thing is that since you can choose which weapon a war paint becomes when you redeem it, those are honestly a better way for new players to get the weapons they want than crafting the weapons
@ordinaryhouserat2912
@ordinaryhouserat2912 2 жыл бұрын
"Alright I'm gonna spend my letranger, Ambassador and Enforcer to hopefully get a new revolver" *gets enforcer*
@rattled6732
@rattled6732 Жыл бұрын
7:00 ROCK AND STONE BROTHER
@rpg247a
@rpg247a 2 жыл бұрын
8:20 Oh, Spring Cleaning, I love this OST. nice choice:)
@cyberknightgaming2094
@cyberknightgaming2094 Жыл бұрын
I am currently waiting for my 3rd set of mantreads to come to my doorstep to craft the rocket jumper due to me running out of space and having to disintegrate it from existence.
@catminttcgu207
@catminttcgu207 2 жыл бұрын
6:05 Chucklenuts lol
@DerpyEinstein
@DerpyEinstein 2 жыл бұрын
points and laughs at getting 5 baby face blasters as random drops in a row and then gets sad
@thewindwakinghero7423
@thewindwakinghero7423 2 жыл бұрын
I finally learned the crafting system enough to craft a crusaders crossbow
@GibusSpyTF
@GibusSpyTF Ай бұрын
Back then in 2014 where crafting was still a thing, trading was so easy just 1 weapon that anyone wants in your inventory for 1 scrap.
@spectac2384
@spectac2384 2 жыл бұрын
Everything one you rhyme I think I'm watching a middle age Dr. Seuss talk about tf2
@doggobind
@doggobind 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@wargene5394
@wargene5394 2 жыл бұрын
yep
@fiddleriddlediddlediddle
@fiddleriddlediddlediddle 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always pleased to see people bring up how TF2 isn't actually an untouchable masterpiece like everyone says it is. It's cool, but it sure as hell ain't perfect.
@isaiahsimmons5776
@isaiahsimmons5776 2 жыл бұрын
tf2 kinda sucks
@isaacsussman5632
@isaacsussman5632 2 жыл бұрын
As crap as this is I do gotta give it credit for immersion. This is the exact kind of trading system I'd expect Mannco to invent.
@emred4653
@emred4653 2 жыл бұрын
oh i feel so dumb as child me not only crafted stuff but also used not tradeable materials for them
@may0nade
@may0nade 2 жыл бұрын
Leave me alone, I'm a broke bitch and I'm proud
@InsertFunnyThingHere
@InsertFunnyThingHere 2 жыл бұрын
F2P that isn't actually F2P because we bought a single item so we could chat gang
@Oxygen1004
@Oxygen1004 2 жыл бұрын
@@InsertFunnyThingHere P2C (Paid to chat)
@d00gz_
@d00gz_ 2 жыл бұрын
The crafting system may have created the economy, but it also has hurt it tremendously. The ability for any player to generate metals has led to an unstoppable inflation of prices and leaving a huge gap between metal trading and key trading. I remember when keys were only a few refined. Now, they’re 70 refined. There’s just way too much refined floating around and I don’t think it can be fixed.
@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460
@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460 2 жыл бұрын
CRY HARDER, TRADER!
@unusualtoaster4279
@unusualtoaster4279 2 ай бұрын
battleblock theater music at the beginning too fire
@gachigasm3210
@gachigasm3210 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the weapon crafting recipes feel more like some weird jokes/puns I don't get than a proper crafting tool, especially when looking at stuff like Solemn Vow recipe.
@calmaxys3114
@calmaxys3114 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the Solemn Vow's joke is that the 8 Jarates are urine samples from the 8 other classes, hence why you can see their health with it.
@gachigasm3210
@gachigasm3210 2 жыл бұрын
@@calmaxys3114 oh that makes sense, damn :D
@Odium_DOB
@Odium_DOB 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for informing me, I now have more use for crafting stuff in tf2 to grab those tf2 reskins
@anthonyoliver418
@anthonyoliver418 Жыл бұрын
I really do they it is at least good that set hats can be guaranteed if you use 4 ref and an weapon from that set, I just wish they brought back the unique stats but this time giving them all downsides, along with maybe insuring that if there is more than 1 hat in the set, you get the one you have the least of, also I don’t know what happens if you use a weapon from the clinical trial in the recipe because it doesn’t have an hat.
@MittensGCTM
@MittensGCTM 2 жыл бұрын
Battleblock theater music = perfect intro/transition music
@BoyOHBoy123
@BoyOHBoy123 Жыл бұрын
6:06 HE DID THE FUNNY
@entothechesnautknight1762
@entothechesnautknight1762 2 жыл бұрын
Dear lord, craft tokens took me back to 2014, oh my god.
@tomlawson4713
@tomlawson4713 2 жыл бұрын
Showing the old rocket jumper model in this video made me sad. I miss that thing.
@Catbattle
@Catbattle 20 күн бұрын
When I was new to TF2, before jungle inferno dropped, I watched a video on youtube about the best spy weapons, or maybe just the best weapons in the game. The guy had said the Your Eternal Reward was a busted weapon, so I went all in crafting it with my untradable achievement items, after which I was left with an almost cleaned out spy loadout. To this day, the YER is still my favorite weapon in tf2, and I have an untradable YER in my backpack.
@danielsurvivor1372
@danielsurvivor1372 2 жыл бұрын
The Golden items should return as short promos only instead of Wrench it could be, say Golden Bat or Axe or anything that looks good in gold and helps poor stock melee being used
@sansalphawolf3293
@sansalphawolf3293 27 күн бұрын
Seeing this after the VAC update is wierd also never thought I would write this ever
@xladbetr8097
@xladbetr8097 Жыл бұрын
Crafting has one use, and it’s showing off my headless horseless horseman blade to everyone in the server
@nolangrayson899
@nolangrayson899 2 жыл бұрын
The DRG music at around 7:00 is beautiful
@j100j
@j100j 2 жыл бұрын
8:00 Same goes for being the buyer. It is, at least for me, too much hassle and I would much rather just get whatever.
@Drako9823
@Drako9823 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing a DRG song on a TF2 video was surprising, but very welcome.
@burningemerald1203
@burningemerald1203 2 жыл бұрын
Presently surprised with the inclusion of RUN! From DRG.
@hellstone5500
@hellstone5500 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love when u hear the drg soundtrack
@Cr1msoniac
@Cr1msoniac 2 жыл бұрын
Your getting better at sfm surprised at how fast you learn I've been trying to learn how to animate for 2 years and im still bad lol
@NephilisThylord
@NephilisThylord 2 жыл бұрын
I thought one of the answers in the beginning question was gonna be the tutorial lol
@RunFudge10k
@RunFudge10k 18 күн бұрын
Isn't that the battle block theater main theme music?
@LemonsAndSadness
@LemonsAndSadness Жыл бұрын
6:50 ROCK AND STONE BROTHER!!!!!!
@GiRR007
@GiRR007 2 жыл бұрын
Tf2s economy in general needs an update
@isaiahsimmons5776
@isaiahsimmons5776 2 жыл бұрын
it needs to be removed
@dopey473
@dopey473 2 жыл бұрын
I know what trading is, I know what trade sites are. Yet I still like crafting hats, the rng is aspect is fun and I don't mind wasting my many duplicate weapons for it.
@ironichoneybadger5066
@ironichoneybadger5066 2 жыл бұрын
dude! I haven't come to this channel in a few months, loving the SFM addition, I can see you still have some coming along when it comes to lip syncing, I think there's a lot of really great animation tutorials out there for that
@quitequeerquesadilla
@quitequeerquesadilla 2 жыл бұрын
6:03 Okay no that did not have any right to make me laugh even half as much as it did. The Chucklenuts collective has ruined me
@BillyOnYouTube
@BillyOnYouTube 2 жыл бұрын
The first and only time I crafted a weapon was for a weapon I actually wanted. My Sharp Dresser.
@madhatter2705
@madhatter2705 2 жыл бұрын
since I don't ever trade if I have a bunch of metal I will probably just craft hats and I usually have hats that I don't ever wear so sometimes I just rebuild the hat to see if I would wear the new hat
@Lathburn
@Lathburn 2 жыл бұрын
I have personally crafted weapons in order to then strangify them, giving a personal touch to my most favorite weapons at the top of its description
@vutuch4865
@vutuch4865 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, that is a really cool video for someon new like me 6:50 : *starts* ROCK AND STONE!
@mxrx7784
@mxrx7784 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still making a loadout entirely made of crafted items and you can't stop me
@niutuiui9741
@niutuiui9741 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of times I’ve lost all my robot parts trying to craft specialized killstreak kits...
@mrgottem2848
@mrgottem2848 6 ай бұрын
Remember crafting a cosmetic from 3 refined got a clip board for the medic, never going to get that 3 refined back
@bonegem2989
@bonegem2989 Жыл бұрын
0:14 might I add f2p having nothing to communicate
@Qulerium
@Qulerium 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, 200 and something weapons, with each combination of two being weapons for the same class, a hopeful me, and a crafting button. All leading up to a crappy medal
@breadiztasty
@breadiztasty 2 жыл бұрын
Crafting is pretty nice though, got am AWP and the sign from it
@propelledbus3928
@propelledbus3928 2 жыл бұрын
I usually just make hats using the crafting system
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