That is something I never knew

Really? What's the source engine magic behind that?

And they also have damage ramp-up, so try to set them off asap.

For what reason???

@@sergeychistov8162 I thought sticky falloff worked depending on the player’s position to the sticky bomb, and then a short like 0.45 after arm time rampup

Scout's a rly high burst dmg class lol (believe it or not) Even dewill and wheezy underrate him Oh and they can't even play him that well

@@speedody2171 Well, who can play him that well in mvm?

Maybe it's just not enough people playing the gamemode but from my experience skilled scouts (or whatever class) in mvm can be rly rare, in all honesty I saw scouts who get less dmg full game than me in a single wave lol Once I saw a pyro get outdmged by a med full game lol (and the team said he did a good job) I still see soldiers who forget rocket jumping exists on a regular basis Oh and the skill difference between Mann up and boot camp can barely be anything (but I just play community so idfk anymore) Edit : ig I kinda derailed the topic but it's true lmao

I only saw couple scouts in my life that actually played the class (upgraded their gun properly) and didn't rely on 1000 jump height or resists

@@M4x_P0w3r Underscore gaming has a scout guide video on youtube. he's the reason i do damage scout nowadays instead of support and i constantly put soldiers to shame on 2cities. you dont need canteens or crit-a-cola, just good upgrades.

*Ahem* I released my video on December 25, 2022, and I even explain that you can actually aim in a few directions OTHER than just "up". The important part is actually that you're cutting across the corner of the hitbox instead of straight through it. Also, the explanation in this video is just... wrong. Read the captions from the screenshots he included, not the voiceover. The screenshots are the correct explanation.

@@UnderscoreGamingChannel cool

@@UnderscoreGamingChannel cool

@@UnderscoreGamingChannel hi I watch your videos, theyre really cool!

@@UnderscoreGamingChannel gotta love that a misinformed video goes so much further than a correct one

How does that even work!?

@@xaviersavard6343 In TF2, for most of the weapons, the damage scales off the distance between you and your target. Under normal circumstances, your weapons' damage is boosted up to 150% at point blank, and reduced down to 50% at long range. So, for example, given that a soldier's rocket's nominal damage is 95 - it will deal up to 142 point-blank, and as low as 47 if you're pestering snipers across the map. In short, we can say that a normal weapon's "damage profile" is: 150% - 100% - 50%. Scout is special in that regard - the high point for his primaries is instead 175%, giving rise to ultra-damaging "meatshots". So his profile is 175% - 100% - 50%. When you're mini-critted, on top of multiplying your damage by 1.45, it also gets rid of the long-distance fall-off (but the close-range boost still stays). Combining both factors together gives a "normal mini-crit profile" at 217% - 145% - 145%, and "the Scout's mini-crit profile" at 254% - 145% - 145%. So, it is still quite beneficial to get into the tank's prostate even when mini-crit-boosted. Full crits, in the other hand, do actually just deal flat 300% - 300% - 300% of the nominal damage, regardless of distance or class.

Tickle the robo-balls

If ur aim is good upgrading dmg earlier is better

@@speedody2171 aim? It's a tank, how are you missing

@@SkywayFishers oh I thought u were talking about scout in general

@@speedody2171 ???

@@speedody2171 If we're talking Scout in general then you should still take clip size first since it increases your DPS more than the first damage tick. A meatshot clip dump hit and run is pretty much the only thing you should be doing, or else you risk taking too much damage, and missing is pretty hard when you're at max ramp up range. The only time I can think of taking damage first is if you need to be the medic killer, and if it's come to that, you might just want to switch classes or abandon ship.

@Flyin' Steve 2city has no tanks

@Flyin' Steve "what do you mean gas passer doesn't instakill the tanks?!? Expert is such bullshit"

If the tank is the last objective in the wave, I will go for the tank as Heavy. If not, I only give tanks a little love tap with my Minigun just to increase my Tanks Destroyed strange part (don't ask me why it has that part, it was gifted to me that way).

Heavy should attack the tank, just not with his mjnigun

@@theshermantanker7043 if it's a tank only wave, and you have around 1300 bucks at your disposal. Then yeah, heavy can bust the tank 4 points of warrior's spirit swing speed 2 points of buffalo steak recharge

damn, thats mindblowing, definitely will apply that in game

Valve removed the re-pressurization upgrade from the dragons fury in mvm to turn it into airblast

that shit was so funny, week 1 i hopped into a match on rottenburg and on the final wave a guy said go dragon fury so we all switched to pyro and melted the tanks so fast that they died before they even exited the spawn door.

@@isildurfour That sounds fun as hell and would rival th ephlog for the meta spot. I wish I was there to see it.

@@mariustan9275 it didn't rival the phlog, it was straight up better by a land slide. like twice as much dps.

@@isildurfour That sounds so much fun. Maybe tone it down a little and it'd be fine.

there are dude, the madcap is one of the best mvm classes

2 medics

He didn't forgot about it, since you can see him using the Bison multiple times in the video.

@@CharmineX he doesnt mention it once

Somebody finally said it

True. I actually saw this while playing on Wave 666. I got crit on kill, and the crits apply to your revolver. Stab a robot, and unload your crits. And crits on aknife make it so every hit counts as a backstab last I checked, or at least it plays the animation.

Check out the pride_ expert mvm video its a pretty great guide even if not in expert mvm

A guy called 'Underscore Gaming' has really good guides for most of the classes (Scout, Soldier, Pyro, Engineer, Sniper and Spy) here on KZfaq. They all come with all the necessary upgrade advice. Highly recommend watching them.

its pierce is coded weirdly so when it hits something really big it hits it multiple times

if you outdamaged a phlog pyro, their damage upgrades were likely poor or non.

@@carolthepyro899 Most likely. I think they were using their mmph crits, but for some reason they just didn't keep up with me.

or just dump points into your sniper, yknow, the primary of the SNIPER class. snipers should not be on tank no matter how much damage theyre outputting, their job is to kill uber medics and giants while the rest of the team deals with tanks

@@cellbuilder2 even with mmph crits, if they were dying or hadnt upgraded their damage enough (or not using the flame particle trick), they were doing poor damage regardless.

Yeah I remember in wave 666 when the dozen or so tanks spawned since I had so much money I would use the DB + max upgrades + crit canteens and do a decent amount of damage.

Also, make Heavy a little better on the minigun damage. Like you can do what the launchers do, increase your damage for four ticks on ALL miniguns, including Brass Beast, it would go up by 25% for... Around 300 per tick.