TF2 Fans are so BRAIN ROT a LITERAL CIRCLE is Fun

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2 ай бұрын

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@shounic 2 ай бұрын

the map is out as "pl_circle_st1" now -> 45.62.160.71:27015 i think the map is kinda cool but i also did make it just because "haha circle". if people hate it i can remove it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@seronymus 2 ай бұрын

This is a new demonstration.

@_demonhunter 2 ай бұрын

cant wait for pl_hexagon_st1

@lacumbancha6273 2 ай бұрын

It actually looks really fun for a "haha circle" map, i thought huntsman spam was going to be more of a problem tho

@Linkman8912 2 ай бұрын

Oh I've gotta try this

@leglesslegolegolas 2 ай бұрын

this is really good, how are you even making those?

@MetaBloxer 2 ай бұрын

You look inside of a particle accelerator and see this.

@jamesfunnymorrison8305 2 ай бұрын

large soldier collider

@magnusm4 2 ай бұрын

Zoom in enough and it's just a particle running from a rocket jumping soldier trying to market garden it.

@justit1074 2 ай бұрын

honestly, making this map a particle accelerator (black mesa/half life theme heh) would be cool in my opinion

@hambor12 2 ай бұрын

@@justit1074there’d be a flipped over Xen Crystal cart with a HL1 Gordon Freeman underneath it, trying to hide from the chaos (he’s not fighting because this is still Fresh-Faced, Untraumatized MIT Graduate Gordon and not “5 days and however long he spent in temporal stasis of uninterrupted and unmatched suffering” Gordon)

@zeropoint7051 2 ай бұрын

HAHAHA REALLL

@blackiron927 2 ай бұрын

'where did my rocket go?' my teammate with a suspiciously rocket-shaped belly: ...

@EthVortexShield 2 ай бұрын

lmao

@txchno4271 2 ай бұрын

we outta rockets

@This-is-not-K Ай бұрын

What are you talking about? I did not shove the rocket you shot right up my-

@solidshrek Ай бұрын

Tom and Jerry ass moment

@uselesssackofmeat1193 Ай бұрын

Nope, haven't seen any rockets 'round here, no siree!

@Nixitur 2 ай бұрын

I love how this explains the creative process, going from _"round_ lmao" to "so, I added multiple routes, multiple layers, some buildings, platforms to stand on, and, oops, I've just made an actual map"

@misteral9045 2 ай бұрын

Yes, a map that is a circle. The only pointy things are crockets and crickies to the face.

@GoldenOwl_Game 2 ай бұрын

That tends to be how level design works “I have an idea!” and then many many MANY iterations of testing, problem solving, and retesting

@ChesterManfred 2 ай бұрын

@@GoldenOwl_GameThe Valve (right) way

@legojay14 2 ай бұрын

@ChesterManfred honestly valves skill is doing this while having the map remain on a coherent theme. But they have the benefit of smaller teams. You'd need much bigger maps to get that theme consistency with 100 players

@carbonatedmilk1 2 ай бұрын

@@legojay14 By theme, do you mean gameplay or design? The maps are typically designed after the geometry is at least partially built if I remember correctly

@samlovebutter 2 ай бұрын

Here's a quick summary of the video: - I wanted to make an experiment. So I introduced a problem. - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Solution for a problem introduced a problem - Ah, here we go. The Radial Labyrinth Of Pain! Still fun at least.

@blacklight683 2 ай бұрын

Average coding/maping experience

@ponponpatapon9670 2 ай бұрын

@@blacklight683 and drawing and music creation and writing experience

@itsPonkulz 2 ай бұрын

this is how creative process happens

@SamOliver4 2 ай бұрын

you've summarized the entirety of game design and development

@lamerie6767 Ай бұрын

spaghettification

@detectiveslime2891 2 ай бұрын

The TF2 community are the type of people to add balancing to a circle

@TKsh1 2 ай бұрын

And still failing hard on said balance.

@toxic_shr00m 2 ай бұрын

@@TKsh1Failing? This is a masterpiece in game design.

@blueknife7728 2 ай бұрын

corner peaking on a circle is crazy

@pzsn5075 2 ай бұрын

@@toxic_shr00myes i am impressed in the small tweaks he did that totally changed how the map "behaved"

@niydfass1060 2 ай бұрын

@@TKsh1 me when failing to balance a map = making a really fun map

@bulldowozer5858 2 ай бұрын

Corner peeking? On a circle?! *They did it! They squared the circle!*

@eggsandghost Ай бұрын

thats right! it goes in the square hole! /ref

@cactusgamingyt9960 Ай бұрын

@@eggsandghost ref? How much ref?

@Quickstein 13 күн бұрын

All these squares make a circle...

@major_tm 10 күн бұрын

isn't a circle just infinite corners?

@D3X_Ze_Proto 4 сағат бұрын

Technically, the circle had about four, connecting chords. Making it a rare instance of a square fitting in a circular hole!

@topthog 2 ай бұрын

2 minutes in I’m like “how can a circle be fun to play on?”, then 6 minutes in I’m like “I hope this additional geometry doesn’t sully the sanctity of the circle, it’s simplicity is what makes it so genius”

@hydraulicsystems332 2 ай бұрын

Sort of does, tbh, by the end too much geometry

@AlphaNinjaFTW1 2 ай бұрын

@@hydraulicsystems332 the sanctity of the circle remains all of the complexity and gameplay is still retained within the circle.

@toxic_shr00m Ай бұрын

*its

@HappyBeezerStudios Ай бұрын

Some of my silliest fun was playing 32 player DM in UT2004 on a map that is just a room. Absolut chaos. You don't want to stay there all day. But for that one round you do, it's absolutely disgusting fun. And hey, 2fort is probably the most played TF2 map, which says a lot.

@Cobyba 4 сағат бұрын

LMAO

@invalid_user_handle 2 ай бұрын

I like how basically every problem with this map was because it's geometry is ultimately constrained to being in a donut shape, so it just ended up being a thousand and one band-aid fixes for every possible scenario. This map's development cycle was literally "Explosive spam is too powerful, so we fix that but now short circuit spam is too powerful, so we fix that but now sniper's too powerful, so we fix that but now RED's vantage points are too powerful, so we fix that but now sentries are too powerful, so we fix that but now demoman's too powerful, so we fix that but now sentries are too powerful again".

@evilded2 2 ай бұрын

That's called game balance

@invalid_user_handle 2 ай бұрын

@@evilded2 The point I was trying to make is that every problem here was exasperated by the fact that the map was forced to be in a 'circle'. If that constraint wasn't so specific they could've just added flank routes off to the sides or in the middle ring, and half of the problems they ran into would've never even happened or would have been way less severe.

@superyerfdog 2 ай бұрын

I mean it worked out in the end

@galacticgamer6635 2 ай бұрын

@@invalid_user_handle Its funni tho.

@soccpuppet4638 2 ай бұрын

Me when I challenge myself to make a cirle work and it's hard to make a circle work:

@notpot6886 2 ай бұрын

The circle represents the single braincell shared by the TF2 community

@Liphyrus 2 ай бұрын

Its complicated.

@nyancatec 2 ай бұрын

Wait we have a braincell?

@TheAnnoyingF2P 2 ай бұрын

Each totem on the pole is a symbolic representation of one family.

@piddypineapple6165 2 ай бұрын

it also applies for other communties not tf2 trust me

@da_real_bup 2 ай бұрын

Yeah and it's my turn with the brain cell, I need to remember how to breathe real quick

@herkload 2 ай бұрын

This is what happens when TF2 doesn’t get a major update in 7 years.

@The_Pope_real 2 ай бұрын

@C.A._Old 2 ай бұрын

same. and also disband TF2 Team Developers after 2018. even comic 7 never came out after 7 years later.

@bongwater1856 2 ай бұрын

The community has taken it upon themselves to learn how to develop TF2, since nobody at valve is

@robotortoise 2 ай бұрын

We did get the 64 bit update, even if it was subcontracted!! So that's something.

@derfakegangster 2 ай бұрын

It's been 7 years???

@AlexanderRM1000 2 ай бұрын

1:43 I love that having your left shoulder to the wall gives Red an advantage because everyone is right-handed, just like medieval castle towers which were sometimes built that way on purpose

@iamerror6546 2 ай бұрын

to be fair if you flip your viewmodel it makes it more even

@NeostormXLMAX 2 ай бұрын

That seems werid since some weapons like the original have it in the middle, or can switch fov

@RAFMnBgaming 2 ай бұрын

I can think of exactly one classic spiral staircase that didn't have right handed defender advantage. Plenty of modern ones though.

@AlexanderRM1000 2 ай бұрын

@@iamerror6546 Does flipping the viewmodel make the bullets come out off-center the other way? That'd be pretty cool actually

@iamerror6546 2 ай бұрын

@@AlexanderRM1000 Yeah, actually. At least from what I’ve heard, anyways. It’s pretty neat.

@CreepysOcean 2 ай бұрын

the first iteration of the circle looks like: "what if everyone on the idle server was actually playing the game"

@shadowmon801 2 ай бұрын

shounic: "I think I forgot something." shocord: "If you forgot, then it wasn't important." scouts:

@feefre 2 ай бұрын

Scout aint important, they were right

@herkload 2 ай бұрын

And also Spies 😂

@No-ut1dn 2 ай бұрын

The only viable playable strats for scouts is either spamming mad milk in hope it won't deleted by short circuit, so that fellow soldiers/demos could get huge heals, or using bonk to block rockets, or blew up someone unfortunate. That's it

@bomono3973 2 ай бұрын

@@herkload nah spies have always been good on 100 player maps. You run YER + stock or deadringer depending on map chokiness. You can easily get topscore if you play your cards right, and can have a serious influence of pushes against engie nests if you distract them all with sappers. Its just way harder to get behind enemy lines than before, but likewise its way easier to get chainstabs than before.

@No-ut1dn 2 ай бұрын

@@bomono3973 expect this map, its geometry so choky that even spy with dead ringer resistances going to be deleted by sheer amount of projectiles and splash damage when he tries to walk to enemie's backlines. And even if he managed to do that, he still might be randomly killed by splash or short circuit ball.

@blueslime32 2 ай бұрын

if you ever decorate this map, you should do it in the style of a mcdonalds or carls jr kids area, it feels like playing in that map would feel like that

@themement3616 2 ай бұрын

Genius

@jimmybean420 2 ай бұрын

he shoud make it look like my gram gram's house because my gram gram' s house looks fucked up like this

@_comrad_4837 2 ай бұрын

Jokes aside, I think this map can be stylized into hell theme, like you know...9th (ring) layer of hell

@doctorsam9200 2 ай бұрын

The entire bottom floor has a small nocollide layer that looks like a ballpit.

@TwitterMutual 2 ай бұрын

Expiration Date tumor bread bagel

@Arzene22 2 ай бұрын

Will never forget the spy infestation during map testing

@boi7316 Ай бұрын

What happened during it?

@benrusnak.929 Ай бұрын

@@boi7316all hell broke lose

@firestarwaca8336 2 ай бұрын

Basically all of these map videos are a giant reminder how important play testing is at every stage of game development lol

@MrGermandeutsch 2 ай бұрын

If I am not mistaken, it's exactly what Valve did, at least when it came to the development of Portal, where there had been weekly playtests, or so I remember.

@taste5728 2 ай бұрын

I kinda wished the map would be a payload race map to just make it worst in that hell spam

@9another632 2 ай бұрын

The devil himself

@laf1993 2 ай бұрын

Make it CTF lmao

@Baba_babaA 2 ай бұрын

Worst game mode in tf2 @@laf1993

@RemoveThisTrashLetMeSeeNames 2 ай бұрын

Make it CP🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@taste5728 2 ай бұрын

@@RemoveThisTrashLetMeSeeNames time limit let you an end to the torture Payload race is perfect as you can see your work go to dust if the carts are allowed to roll back and no side has an advantage with unlimited time and same respawn time on both teams ACTUAL NIGHTMARE

@Awesomeness-iz3dh 2 ай бұрын

0:57 No way, we finally got Counter-Strike in TF2!

@Pudding404 2 ай бұрын

*"A perfect circle?! Do it again. Show your process."* Pushing a cart around like a dog chasing it's tail is universally the most tf2 thing imaginable.

@agentoranj5858 2 ай бұрын

That would be a fun map actually. Cart doesn't just go from start to finish, it does laps and racks up points until the timer's up.

@gladoseon4117 Ай бұрын

@@agentoranj5858incredible idea for Payload Race

@samuels1123 Ай бұрын

@@agentoranj5858 experimental idea: the cart is a turntable that spins a part of the map

@IceFlower22 29 күн бұрын

@@agentoranj5858 That... actually sounds like a fun idea

@masterowl123 5 күн бұрын

@@gladoseon4117 that's a real map, called 'Snowthistle'. It was really fun from what I rememebr

@parkeddoor 2 ай бұрын

That circle represents my brain chart, 100% stupidity 0% competence

@gladoseon4117 Ай бұрын

But also 100% enjoyable

@TheFoolishSamurai 2 ай бұрын

One major QOL problem I encountered playing this was how narrow some of the platforms are, especially those against the outer ring. You'd end up killing all of your momentum mid-jump brushing against a wall brush at the wrong angle

@SUNG0DRA 2 ай бұрын

skill issue

@ponponpatapon9670 2 ай бұрын

@@SUNG0DRA shut up.

@SUNG0DRA 2 ай бұрын

@@ponponpatapon9670 you heard me.

@Digihart123 2 ай бұрын

@@SUNG0DRA shut up.

@SmokePudding 2 ай бұрын

@@SUNG0DRA 🤓

@casualbread3305 2 ай бұрын

One idea I've always been interested in: Water in TF2 allows for 3D movement, what if an entire map was made with the swimming effects on (minus the drowning and anti-fire limits), how would the gameplay go when players need to look not just around; but down and up to check for enemies? How would gameplay change with a new way to flank? Would chokepoints remain the same gameplay wise? It's an interesting idea, but probably difficult to make, considering how scout's double jump would have to be changed, along with demo's charges and soldier's rocket jumping. I'd love to see you try this idea someday! If anything, It'd make for a great Halloween map for the server! (because a space theme would be boring)

@jas-c3610 2 ай бұрын

This + Rocket Jumper + Infinite Clip Size = Brownian Motion Simulator.

2 ай бұрын

@NeostormXLMAX 2 ай бұрын

I want a map in tf2 set on a space station

@lev7509 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, that's basically zero-grav TF2 i guess. Would make more sense though if it'd somehow allow for non-explosive classes to deliberately push off of walls in the direction they're looking for example, as otherwise any non-explosive mercs would have no real way of controlling their movement.

@Jamesthe1 2 ай бұрын

so you're telling me tf2 is almost a 6dof game

@abuslayer17 2 ай бұрын

how it started: just a circle how it ended: an actual interesting map with a depth of strategy and game sense needed to play well

@casuallatecomer7597 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, ngl, this looks really fun with the amount of thought that put into it despite being a "simple" map layout.

@lazthegreat10 18 күн бұрын

The strategy is spam

@Toro563 2 ай бұрын

What 7 years without an update does to a community

@ChesterManfred 2 ай бұрын

I'm so brainrotten, that I'm laughing at the video quality plummeting from the projectiles

@Toro563 2 ай бұрын

@@ChesterManfred It's over

@Ensign_games 2 ай бұрын

yep. And don't even look at the starfox fanbase since they had constructed an entire canon from the scraps that Nintendo left

@demoman5864 2 ай бұрын

@@Toro563no. TF2 cope 101 says: TF2 will never die. And as time goes on the Brainrot will only get worse.

@lautarogomez9711 2 ай бұрын

@@demoman5864So what could we do?

@whynotanyting 2 ай бұрын

Could totally see this turned into an art gallery/museum for the art pass

@autonomousanonymous6310 2 ай бұрын

i was thinking more "inside of a giant fusion reactor"

@manitoba-op4jx 2 ай бұрын

the outer perimeter hall of a missile silo

@DJL3G3ND 2 ай бұрын

blast pit

@fleshwebber1757 2 ай бұрын

The first thing that came to my mind was a synchrotron.

@cloudynguyen6527 2 ай бұрын

@@autonomousanonymous6310 Then we name it pl_blackmesa >:D

@june9914 2 ай бұрын

In this very short circuit short circuit was overpowered

@GoldenOwl_Game 2 ай бұрын

I once had a class on level design where everyone got told to make a level which we’d playtest in Quake. Surprisingly, the most popular level was the one that just CTF but dumped everyone in a tiny room This is actually an awkward thing with level design: what makes for good design is not always what’s fun, and vice versa

@justahooman2367 2 ай бұрын

Lobotomy fortress 2

@shadow12312gx 2 ай бұрын

"Throughout 2Fort and Dustbowl, I Alone Am The Rounded One"

@drfidelis558 2 ай бұрын

Damn, it really took 50 days of constant resetting to push the cart to the end? That's some dedication right there. faith to your morals, willingness to stand up straight and all that.

@coffeegaming9863 2 ай бұрын

Project moon sleeper agent

@robloxarchiver Ай бұрын

@@coffeegaming9863 uncle ben what happened FIRST TRUMPET!!!

@3Triang3l3 Ай бұрын

This name is far more appropriate here than to that 1998 Team Fortress 2: Brotherhood of Arms map with reactors and pipes.

@Timmir00 2 ай бұрын

For what is meant to be a meme map, you did a fantastic job showing off the iterative process, and gave a good demonstration on what the process is for good map design.

@Kaiserboo1871 Ай бұрын

Shounic. You are unironically a fantastic map designer and game developer. Your experiments in TF2 are so fun to watch.

@ThePongles 2 ай бұрын

You know what might be interesting? A circular map like this but using the Source portals to make it have more segments than is physically possible. Have it be like 8 quarter segments long, with the first 4 there from the start, but for each segment Blu caps it adds another segment randomly picked from a bunch of options. Heck you could make it a community-created map by having people design their own segments that can be put in.

@Dusk_Shade 2 ай бұрын

That would be interesting if it were possible, but I think that Valve putting the linked_portal_door(s) into TF2 would've been talked about quite a bit. (We would know if they were there by now, is what I'm trying to say)

@drewrussell8531 2 ай бұрын

Makes me think of some of the weird, experimental maps in Duke Nukem that did stuff like that.

@dogman15 2 ай бұрын

@@Dusk_Shade I think pl_corruption makes use of linked_portal_doors in its "underworld" (the mental asylum), doesn't it?

@Dusk_Shade 2 ай бұрын

@@dogman15 After some googling, no, I don't think it does. If I remember, it just loads some rooms randomly - there's a video somewhere explaining it, give me a minute - Found it kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n9-beMt8mNu2g4k.html

@ThePongles 2 ай бұрын

@@Dusk_Shade ah, my bad that's the map that I thought had the portals. I guess to do something like what I mentioned in TF2, you would be limited to having 3 segments normally with the 4th segment being a loading zone. You'd then need to wait until all the players left the the furthest blu-ward segement and then you could unload that to make space for a new segement. I haven't learnt enough through watching Shounic and LED to know if that is possible.

@snipuhh__enthusiast2736 2 ай бұрын

No world war game will ever simulate THIS team experience 💀🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@ericlizama8552 2 ай бұрын

I'd say Foxhole comes close.

@davisdf3064 2 ай бұрын

@@ericlizama8552 Man, i want to get into that game so badly

@DAVRIAS 21 күн бұрын

"No world war game will ever simulate THIS team experience" huh? oh no cr@p sherlock why would a game about WORLD WAR yes WORLD war an event that happened in real life why would there be funny circle battles in a game about WORLD WAR

@Martyste 2 ай бұрын

1:43 *Laughs in Left Handed viewmodels*

@wile123456 2 ай бұрын

Projectile and bullets still come out from the right side.

@zypireal 2 ай бұрын

bullets come out the middle, projectiles are viewmodel sided

@ThatNoobKing 2 ай бұрын

@@wile123456they don't, actually! Left handed view models actually make projectiles come from the left side

@ZeroWingless 2 ай бұрын

@@wile123456 [extremely loud incorrect buzzer sound]

@GameFuMaster 2 ай бұрын

@@ThatNoobKing how does it look from the enemy then?

@definitelynotcris 2 ай бұрын

1:20 funny thing is that wasn't even what I meant at all, I said that during the stream as a joke and meant literally disabling respawning as if it was arena mode. But then we tried instant respawn and it worked soo we take those ig

@usernametaken017 2 ай бұрын

that sounds so fucked up in a 100 player server it does sound cool on that one turbine maze map though

@MrGermandeutsch 2 ай бұрын

Honestly I was confused when instead of no respawn, instant respawn was implemented instead. But it certainly worked out quite well!

@infernox1099 2 ай бұрын

Honestly an interesting look into level design, given it's such a simple initial concept, which evolved to keep the original spirit (of it being a circle) but also trying to be fair, where every iteration helped one problem, while inadvertently causing another which needed additional help which kept going until it finally got to the 50/50 state it's in now

@ZapperVang 2 ай бұрын

I misread the title as a literal circus so now I want to see a circus themed art pass. seems fitting considering the silly and ridiculous concept of the map in the first place, also would explain a lot of the random geometry and objects around. Especially stuff up towards the ceiling for acrobats and safety assistance.

@JimBimBum 2 ай бұрын

this is actually a great exercise on creativity and simplicity.

@WangelHL2 2 ай бұрын

"Welcome to team fortress 2, after 9 hours in development, hopefully it would've been worth the weight." - gaben whose favourite class is the spy.

@purplehaze2358 2 ай бұрын

It would honestly be super rad if you gave this map a visual makeover to make it look like a Dantean circle of hell.

@itchylol742 2 ай бұрын

overwatch would never allow you to stuff 100 players in a custom circle map

@LucreDenouncer 2 ай бұрын

Oh god, all those ult voicelines

@dogman15 2 ай бұрын

It won't even let you stuff more than 12 or 10 players in a map, much less 24 or 32.

@Basuko_Smoker 2 ай бұрын

GL getting 100 people to Play overwatch (0.9) nowadays😂😂😂😂😂

@krilc 2 ай бұрын

Overwatch doesn't even exist

@UmiZoomR 2 ай бұрын

Looks like cope

@ChesterManfred 2 ай бұрын

I love how you can straight up predict the way the "orange pieces" can impact the gameplay, until you find three demomen solely spamming pipes down that spot

@xthinkfast 2 ай бұрын

love how the spy at 4:16 just slowly slides towards the camera & dies

@qaaris4280 Ай бұрын

1:27 props to that red Soldier right by the pillar that ate _three rockets_ from his teammate

@llmkursk8254 2 ай бұрын

If I could suggest a name, it would be “Big Donut,” in reference to the Mario Kart battle corse that takes place in a giant ring, with a large pit of lava in the center.

@keltonschleyer6367 2 ай бұрын

CLASSIC

@cake.1344 2 ай бұрын

Chain chomp roulette cleara

@KakaCarrotCakeVideos 2 ай бұрын

It should be called Donut Steel

@RandomDude647 2 ай бұрын

it should be called Baby Park

@1lomi901 2 ай бұрын

I really love those experimentation. Level design is such a fun thing when it comes to multiplayer balancing.

@thefallenprince9929 2 ай бұрын

I feel like a good theme for this map if it gets an art pass would be as a Particle Accelerator

@daring1434 2 ай бұрын

I love the pyro at 0:25 that dies the second the uber drops lmao

@mpixl9965 2 ай бұрын

This map is a perfect example of why playtesting every single tiny change is crucial to making a good map, this literal circle is more fun to play than some maps in the base game (*cough* wutville *cough*)

@humanharddrive1 2 ай бұрын

100 players is just so fun. i love the trenches. i think it's the base tf2 gameplay that makes anything so satisfying. it's crazy how many level design problems were encountered and solved here. I can't wait for the art pass

@MRswipez1 2 ай бұрын

This was very interesting shounic, well done. Played in your server a few times and it's very fun.

@purplehaze2358 2 ай бұрын

7:27 I'm sorry, what the fuck? Did that scout just pull out a caber?

@usernametaken017 2 ай бұрын

tf3 gameplay leaked footage

@MrGermandeutsch 2 ай бұрын

Holy shit, I didn't even pick up on that!

@csgosh-tter 2 ай бұрын

this was actually an extremely interesting in depth video on map design

@PrototypeMann 2 ай бұрын

4:48 SINK SPOTTED!!!!!

@skipmanghondarg 2 ай бұрын

this would make a cool profile picture and i don't know why...

@MrDoodar 2 ай бұрын

7:38 engineer if he was like the engineer in meet the engineer

@MrDoodar 2 ай бұрын

Engineer

@cmessymarvin4928 9 күн бұрын

Nightmare

@boneman9751 2 ай бұрын

Love the natural selection take on balance. Makes even the most ridiculous maps become balanced through constant development isnt of bulk changes that might not work

@horse_plinko 2 ай бұрын

Can't believe this... They put the Promenade from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine in TF2...

@balala7567 2 ай бұрын

now it needs a wormhole that banishes you to 2fort where the shape shifting civilians live

@robertflinch2447 2 ай бұрын

It isn't really just a circle anymore

@No-ut1dn 2 ай бұрын

Of course, that's a donut🤓

@BinaryBolias 2 ай бұрын

@@No-ut1dn No, really more like a torus 🤓🥸🤓

@0ak_ 2 ай бұрын

I really like the design process here to try and balance the circle. Definitely something I will probably come back to get ideas for my own levels

@Lonqudor 2 ай бұрын

Let’s take a second to appreciate the Pyro who reflected a Mad Milk at 0:53

@MrGermandeutsch 2 ай бұрын

I would have never noticed that if you had never mentioned that, holy shit.

@WilhelmScreamer 2 ай бұрын

Ctf_hallway_of_death is this but even more cruel. As it offers the illusion of lanes

@isenokami7810 2 ай бұрын

This reminds me of when I used to play on the Xenogames server, which cycled maps based on other games, back when it actually had players. One of the maps was from Goldeneye-some kind of base, I never played real Goldeneye so I don’t know-and it was very much this spam city kind of deal. You could sort of call a winner, since the prime choke points the spam set up on were in spots just inside the bases and not on the neutral ground between, but still, it ultimately and quickly devolved into a spam war with no real way for either side to push through the firefight.

@StuffyAnt Ай бұрын

This is genuinely a great video about map and general game design. Great stuff!

@slimesauce3044 2 ай бұрын

This is such a genuinely interesting look into the map design process and balancing process

@CabbagePlaster 2 ай бұрын

BALLS

@beatoid1006 2 ай бұрын

Dont even need to watch the video you already proved the title 😭

@CabbagePlaster 2 ай бұрын

@@beatoid1006 I meant circle

@G.A.N. 2 ай бұрын

this cut down hydro looks fun

@Artician 2 ай бұрын

Hydro mentioned

@TheRedMC 2 ай бұрын

I can't believe shounic locked 100 people in Jevil's carousel

@Josukegaming 2 ай бұрын

I absolutely love these map creation videos, keep em coming!

@red5t653 2 ай бұрын

By the end of all this development time this is basically the barest essence of a long single-stage multi-point map, with no flanks and only a main choke the whole way through. It even follows the routing of many single-stage payload maps where the cart naturally spirals toward the end, though in this case instead of the center of the map it simply loops back to (nearly) where it started, which is kind of interesting.

@AlarmingBoot205 2 ай бұрын

4:10 that one spy at the corner

@ggwp26lolol18 2 ай бұрын

The map looks fun despite being just circle. You're giving me the motivation to make my own tf2 map

@kingacrisius 2 ай бұрын

It's cool to see how it started and ended up, having only seen the middle few iterations. Looks like it worked out pretty well in the end!

@ampersanddust 2 ай бұрын

Art competition for this one is gonna be amazing!!

@davpcot 2 ай бұрын

definitely needs a playground aesthetic

@alexcrisman1954 2 ай бұрын

Making this map look like some sort of reactor room would look sick

@DangerDurians Ай бұрын

I love these series and how it highlights playtesting is really one of the biggest factors in balancing

@lipschitzlyapunov 2 ай бұрын

2:36 just from this gameplay I just think blu has severe skill issue and isn't related to banning the short circuit

@usernametaken017 2 ай бұрын

Red speech bubble

@thewoodpeckers655 2 ай бұрын

The sheer number of people willing to do these stupid experiments has allowed us to make case studies on super weird ideas that could be very helpful information for mappers.

@therippleeffect7970 2 ай бұрын

Your videos are actually good examples of the game design process pretty cool to see!

@buzzlightyearpfp7641 2 ай бұрын

i feel like the final thing i would do is add various tunnels that connect different parts of the map sure it might mess with the 'circle' theme a bit, but it'd give scout/spy some existence

@whynotanyting 2 ай бұрын

Can't wait for the sequel! Circle²

@mcjavabelike8320 2 ай бұрын

Hypersphere

@foxxxy4963 2 ай бұрын

I love your work Sho! :3

@Extendedklips 2 ай бұрын

I really enjoy this series as it shows how iterative map design is and the thoughts and ingenuity behind the players of a 100 player server even in something as simple as a circle

@drewdj45 2 ай бұрын

I LOVEEEE Seeing map making like this!!! Great Work Brodie!

@protodot2051 2 ай бұрын

Man, this level design shit is easy. In all seriousness, this is a pretty interesting experiment, can't wait to see the response.

@clownimpregnator 2 ай бұрын

Now all you gotta do is artpass it. I'd say make it a burning submarine in space, just saying. Needs radium, tho.

@tankfire20 2 ай бұрын

Very fun map the entire process was fun too. i hope there will be more chances to test new maps. Thanks sho!

@knightwolf1363 2 ай бұрын

For the actual map, I think maybe like a huge missile silo being converted into bomb making facility if you wanted to still do payload

@jokerofspades-xt3bs 2 ай бұрын

They need to make this a giant jungle

@green929392 2 ай бұрын

A jungle could have vines for the floating bits and a giant tree in the center

@jokerofspades-xt3bs 2 ай бұрын

@@green929392 Yes

@de-ment 2 ай бұрын

The reason this map seems like it excelled was because it still fit the scale of TF2 despite being optimized for about 4x the player amount. Alot of maps nowadays, be it cp_propaganda, pl_emerge or pl_patagonia are oversized as hell, which ruins every character's synergy and births the currently re-revived complaint over snipers since the new maps are not designed by people who know how to balance TF2. The fact you can optimize a literal circle talks more of your skill in game design and ability to take feedback; and puts about 80% of modern TF2 mappers to shame, godspeed.

@s_ludge 2 ай бұрын

I love your map designing series. I mean I enjoy all your videos, I enjoy the technical details but especially this series as I've always aspired to get into map making. Also off-topic but at 7:28 I need caber scout now. Drink Bonk! and then watch the enemy team with the caber out...

@DesignFrameCaseStudies 2 ай бұрын

This is a great example of the iterative process of level design. Great work!

@TrustyGun2 2 ай бұрын

Shounic really is the type of guy to think about the map design of a circle and iterate on it

@KeeGamer310 2 ай бұрын

that's tf2 for ya

@chost-059 2 ай бұрын

this is actually a good learning experience into map design, yes its very simple but as such it makes certain map design challenges very apparent and easy to understand

@Stardust_Spy 2 ай бұрын

Redmond and Blutarch when they have to explain to their mercenaries why taking this circle is incredibly important to the gravel wars.

@Turgineer 2 ай бұрын

Wow, we can literally have fun even in a small circle.

@vouvusbovus9100 2 ай бұрын

Is it just me or does the map seem to be so confusing by the end, I would get lost in a dam circle lol

@Kedamojo 2 ай бұрын

This video is amazing. I struggle to find servers to play in here in AUS, and to find that you can still find 100 players to bring a new map to the community is perfect news.