TF2: Spy Psychology - How to Disguise

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Күн бұрын

#TF2 #teamfortress2 #spy
People say disguises don't fool good players... welp, guess I gotta prove otherwise...
Thanks to @Megaboomlord for helping some of the filming and @babbitgoezboom for doing the bit with the screen.
0:00 Intro
1:13 Disguise Mechanics
4:03 How to Detect a Spy
6:04 Acting
10:45 The Different Disguises
15:18 Outro
Music used:
Half-Life Alyx OST - Anti-Citizen
Beneath Pi'illo Castle - Mario & Luigi Dream Team
Funky Town low quality
Luigi's Mansion 2 Dark Moon - Gloomy Manor [Remix]
World 8 Map - New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Pokémon_ White 2 - White Treehollow
Luigi's Mansion 3 Music - ScareScraper Floor (Capture The Ghosts) Ver. 2
Harry Potter hyper distorted version
Luigi's Mansion 3 Music - ScareScraper Boss Boolossus (Phase 1)
Super Mario 3D World - World Bowser [Remix]
Comedic Curtains - Mario & Luigi_ Dream Team Music
Chris Christodoulou - Tropic of Cancer
Tostarena Ruins - Super Mario Odyssey
Chris Christodoulou - A Placid Island of Ignorance
Dreaming of Riches - Mario Party 7
Chris Christodoulou - Dew Point
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - Playing With Danger
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - Faster Than a Speeding Bullet
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - Rocket Jump Waltz
Nightmare Lullaby - Mario & Luigi Dream Team
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - Drunken Pipe Bomb
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - Intruder Alert
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - More Gun (Version 1)
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - A Little Heart to Heart
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - The Calm
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - Petite Chou-Fleur
Half-Life Alyx OST - Ending Triumph
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@LalitoTV Жыл бұрын

It's insane to think that for an old game like TF2, fundamental guides like this are almost always recent uploads

@gabef.218 Жыл бұрын

With a game as old yet dynamic as tf2, people are always both honing their craft, and discovering new ways entirely

@nts0n Жыл бұрын

I'll always love how many helpful and informative guides are out there for TF2 and how many are still being made to this day. From hours upon hours of circle strafing tutorials, to optimized settings, to weapon guides, and many different playstyles. Now there's only one guide we're missing: how to avoid Sniper in casual games. Please. I just want to play the game.

@theseangle Жыл бұрын

@@nts0n do you know why there aren't any guides on how to avoid snipers? Because there are no ways to avoid sniper. #ValveNerfSniper

@Sammysapphira Жыл бұрын

We learned all of this in like 2010 dude it's not anything new. KZfaq just doesn't show older videos vs new videos.

@waffler-yz3gw Жыл бұрын

thats good for me, redownloaded the game today and got chased around by a pyro while cloaked until i died and had an existential crisis

@red_ruby4881 Жыл бұрын

I found a niche use of a heavy disguise while playing yesterday. If you see a wounded enemy try to approach them while switching disguised weapon to your secondary. Since 99 percent of heavies carry some sort of a food item it will look like you want to throw it and heal them. A pretty good chance that they will also stand still, giving you and opportunity to easily finish them off with a revolver. I successfully did it twice and honestly feels awesome to bamboozle someone this way

@greeneggsnspam2111 Жыл бұрын

You can pull a similar trick sometimes with medic by pulling out the crossbow so they stand still for you to shoot a healing bolt at them, only for you to instead shoot a lead bolt at them. It feels poetic, watching them stand nice and still for their own execution.

@Kuro-UWU Жыл бұрын

Mother of God, you are a terrible person

@clownontherun3449 Жыл бұрын

@@greeneggsnspam2111 never thought spy could be so sadistic… and a hot French weeb

@greeneggsnspam2111 Жыл бұрын

@@clownontherun3449 I hate both Anime and Fr*nce, actually.

@ihidemyface2167 Жыл бұрын

@@greeneggsnspam2111why did you censor”France”?

@VampDemigod Жыл бұрын

For those who don’t know: medics with the right settings get an autocall ping if you disguise while not at full HP. And when they medibeam you they’ll see your actual HP. As a medic main who sometimes plays spy, it’s painful how much tech medics have against spies.

@alicyuhh 6 ай бұрын

what settings

@VampDemigod 6 ай бұрын

@@alicyuhh auto call to around 95%+

@KorotasGeckoGamingCorner 5 ай бұрын

@@VampDemigod Some medics also have a keybind that causes the autocall ping to appear on any teammate regardless of their health, be mindful of those too

@Thatguywiththelaptop 5 ай бұрын

It's balanced by the fact that I have a "Heal first, spy check later" playstyle that means I help enemy spies just as much as I hurt them.

@VampDemigod 5 ай бұрын

@@KorotasGeckoGamingCorner True, I forgot about the lower/raise keybind. Medic being able to track teammates through walls on demand really is an underrated ability XD

@herbivorethecarnivore8447 Жыл бұрын

11:03 One thing I don't think gets enough credit is the transitions to the other classes. It's really impactful and the sudden music change makes it feel like this is "their" video now. It's great.

@Mf_CHIP Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@DrickRT 9 ай бұрын

holy shit didnt notice that lmao

@asilverplayer3435 5 ай бұрын

Yes!

@TheFrantastic 3 ай бұрын

That video is a spy!

@JATorigin 7 сағат бұрын

@@DrickRTnnnnnnnjnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnjnnnnnjnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnjnnnnnnnnnnnnnnjnnnnnnnnnmnnnnnjnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnjjnjj"""'"c""c""'xcxd

@pancakes8816 Жыл бұрын

This reminds me of the time I disguised as pyro, and somehow I forgot I was playing spy. So I genuinely convinced myself I was a BLU pyro, so I went to attack my team. Which caused my disguise to fall and I died instantly

@shaybaker9176 Жыл бұрын

LOL

@mikehawk4204 Жыл бұрын

My man was doing triple acting 😭

@laughingseagull000 10 ай бұрын

Expert spy strat: get 8 hours of sleep a day

@aguy7095 9 ай бұрын

@@laughingseagull000 (and dont do narcotics/drugs)

@1358gaming 6 ай бұрын

i once was playing on goldrush and on of my team was hiding on the cart and pushing but i tried to backstab him

@xxdoommagexx Жыл бұрын

Being someone who plays the adaptive playstyle, it's easy to mimic the movements of a class. This video is awsome, and it really helped me up my spy game, making me alot more of an asset to my team.(i personally am a horrible spy, but I can pull off the acting gig preatty good.)

@birb4121 Жыл бұрын

I once fooled a Soldier for basically his entire life with a Sniper disguise it felt good when i finally stabbed him. he was also a good chap about it and complimented my acting which made me feel pretty good

@realLolanson Жыл бұрын

Im pretty much the same, i suck as at stabbing, but i can act and move good

@civilsecuritylite12054 Жыл бұрын

@@birb4121 There's nothing more satisifying when fooling a fully charged Uber Medic to using his uber on you only to realize you arent attacking the sentry nest and your teammates, meaning that you just effectively lead him into a death trap with pretty much no escape or that you completely wasted his entire time.

@HanzOrHans Жыл бұрын

Use your eternal reward although it's not very good it will train ya

@TheAbyssalStorm Жыл бұрын

@@civilsecuritylite12054 I’ve been on the receiving end of that before, and it is quite embarrassing for both me (the medic) and every teammate around me.

@aaronmcguire7712 Жыл бұрын

For everyone watching, here's another tip that'll hopefully help: Whatever you do, don't always choose the SAME class to disguise as. Scout might be good for the hitbox displacement and slightly faster move speed, for example, but the enemy team will eventually try to always spycheck a scout if all they see are enemy spies disguised as one. Variety is the spice of life, and it might just save yours if you're lucky!

@2hot34 Жыл бұрын

That said due to the spy meta being scout disguises you should reserve using scout as your I need a disguise to get a quick pick disguise.

@purtlethetenguin Жыл бұрын

You dont need to use strictly scout for the fastest movespeed, spy also shares his movespeed with medic and obviously spy, so thats 3 options for the fastest possible speed!

@pokemonfanmario7694 11 ай бұрын

Spy doesnt get faster movespeed if disguised as Scout. Smart players can tell if a scout is a spy by movement speed alone, you gotta mask it with jumping.

@PixeIated 10 ай бұрын

As a new player, i thank you I always go disguise myself as an engineer because if i go to a building, it's less suspicious Thanks for this!

@Resetium 9 ай бұрын

@@PixeIatedYou can also disguise as someone else looking for ammo or health (hit the MEDIC button in the latter case, you'll probably get a free med pick) to get to the buildings. ...or just cloak idk

@amber.mp4 Жыл бұрын

I feel like the art of disguising has been overshadowed by the lobotomizing play-style of the trickstabbing kunai spy, but these kinds of videos give me hope for spy mains. I'm always impressed when I'm completely fooled by a good disguise.

@KittyGamer1514 4 ай бұрын

I run the kunai simply because being able to tank a quick scope headshot is amazing.

@elgatochurro 4 ай бұрын

I dont think thats true, the dead ringer and kunai made things easier but that also why some people prefer such items. like pyros power jack helps with positioning, scouts, and spy checking.

@MyouKyuubi 3 ай бұрын

Except, you can COMPLETELY nullify the OG-playstyle, by just empying an entire magazine into anything that moves. Actings skills are worthless. What my mans in the video here isn't mentioning, is that disguises can only fool people that ALLOW themselves to be fooled, in other words, you can only fool newbies in pubs. Not a single thing he said is useful information in an actual competitive lobby, with experienced players, as they do, in fact, spycheck everything that moves, because you riskl nothing, and lose nothing, by doing so, in this game. :P

@thatoneguy9309 3 ай бұрын

@@MyouKyuubi because you always see competitive players shooting everything. That isn't a waste of both time and ammo at all. I always say a good spy doesn't need to fool you for more than about a second until someone dies. Sometimes less depending on good situations.

@nickmorzinski5558 3 ай бұрын

As a 60 hour spy main, I'll try and be the disguising rogue rather than ubersweat trickstabber.

@Casual_PKBeats Жыл бұрын

I was super taken aback by how amazing this video was! As much as I like the more cloak-reliant, "only decloak when you're gonna get a stab" playstyle, there's nothing quite as rewarding as actually fooling someone, and this provides some really good information to getting that down. It really is the subtle things that make you convincing. Excellent video! Might play some more spy now lol

@Jontohil2 Жыл бұрын

People are learning the ways...

@LowProfile0247 Жыл бұрын

@PKBeats then upload more on your tf2 channel!!! I loved the fnaf video!!!!!! You advertised it in one of ur smash vids!!!!!!!!!!

@shoelace5977 Жыл бұрын

Something that ess not mentioned that i just thought of: if you stare a disguised enemy spy in the face, they will emote that they seem scared(their face, not the Fortnite type of emoting). Pyro should therefore be preferred if you plan to disguise for a longer con than normal. Remember to use other disguises where applicable tho

@manjackson2772 Жыл бұрын

@@shoelace5977 What? I've been playing since 2008 and this is the first time I've heard of that

@shoelace5977 Жыл бұрын

@@manjackson2772 FINALLY found something to show! back in 2014, mr paladin uploaded a spy detection guide (link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7udhtmIzLDQc58.html ), and at 19:08 he talks about staring down a heavy disguise as a way to tell it apart! throughout the video you can also see disguised spies trying to avoid eye contact too! this is VERY niche, but at least i have proof now, and i am happy

@emerson-biggons7078 Жыл бұрын

I am a terrible spy, but I loved the concept of disguising so much growing up that I just instinctively learned to act like my disguise. I usually did a pretty terrible job but the first thing I realized was, looking at my team is the most unsuspecting thing you can do as a spy.

@TheStreakBreaker Жыл бұрын

Hello there! How is it goin'? I'm pretty much new at Spy, 2 hours of game with him. Can you give me a little tip?

@FeltyTurtle 11 ай бұрын

@@TheStreakBreaker dont let the enemy see you with your team because they will know in a instant you are a spy

@A.Singularity 10 ай бұрын

@@FeltyTurtleunless you are disguised as their spy and "pretend" found out to get them to think they need to push in since the entire team is distracted by one spy, but of course, they are n o t

@G4S_M4SK_DUD3 9 ай бұрын

@@TheStreakBreakerwhen disguised as sniper, jitter left and right like most snipers do to avoid getting headshot

@megaagentj2248 9 ай бұрын

@@TheStreakBreakeronly use the stock invis watch while learning the class, cloak and dagger and dead ringer teach bad habits if they’re your only watches you’ve used

@DaltonIzHere 6 ай бұрын

I don’t play Spy often, but one time I distinctly remember is when I was able to fool a pretty good Pyro by pretending to be in a Sniper duel. Somehow, he didn’t notice the fact that I wasn’t actually firing.

@Zanoscar 7 ай бұрын

I just had to comment that the TF2 Spy moment that has lived in my brain rent free for years now has been the moment I willingly avoided spychecking an engineer because he had the toolbox equipped like he was hauling gear, and thinking "spies can't use that in disguises so he's not a spy" and immediately getting stabbed by him afterwards. It broke me and of all the moments in TF2 i've ever had, that one moment has stuck with me forever. Disguises work.

@nickmorzinski5558 3 ай бұрын

How do you disguise as toolbox carrying engie? That sounds epic

@gabet7193 3 ай бұрын

spies can do that???

@jblazerndrowzy 2 ай бұрын

For the decade I’ve known about this game, I did not know Spy could do that

@Green24152 17 күн бұрын

@@nickmorzinski5558maybe hitting B when you have your slot 4 item out? (disguise kit)

@SnackPatrol 13 күн бұрын

Spy cannot do this. He can mimic primary, secondary & melee weapons only of other classes. What most likely happened is: You saw a real engy with the toolbox, turned around, an enemy spy coming out of stealth or behind cover stabs engy, then you, and seeing no one else on the killcam you came to the conclusion this engy was the spy, rather than a spy killing your engy teammate & then you in quick succession. It's also possible you saw a real engy with the toolbox, turned around and in the interim a spy out of stealth/cover kills engy with Your Eternal Reward, immediately taking on the engy's appearance. Then you turn back around for a moment towards the now spyengy, who now has any other weapon out he can appear to have. You turn away again, and die, and forget the Your Eternal Reward possibility between your turn arounds because of how quick it happens, so you equate these 2 moments of gazing back at engybro as the same player. Or you are misremembering. Or it was a rare, weird glitch, potentially on a community server or due to lag or your PC having a moment. I have been playing since '07 Beta with a very sad amount of hours (on spy, engy, everything) and have never once seen this and just googled & tested myself to confirm, what you're saying is not possible to do as spy, intentionally.

@Battleforge Жыл бұрын

Just saying, this is an amazingly edited video! Looking forward to seeing more.

@Seanderson3 Жыл бұрын

Y'know, you're one of the last people I expected to see in this comment section, but it's pretty cool that you're here 👍

@randomgoldperson2401 Жыл бұрын

@@Seanderson3 I didn't see it coming either

@Pudding404 Жыл бұрын

Spy as a whole is just so odd, I've never seen another class in another first person shooter even remotely as unique as him. The skill sealing is massive, there's always something to learn and improve on even if you're the best Spy player.

@jakedanielsen4512 Жыл бұрын

Skill ceiling

@YourLocalRaider Жыл бұрын

And how they made the insta-kill, go invisible on demand class balanced. It honestly baffled me when i first played the game and realized Spy was the weakest class despite his insta-kill mechanics.

@vivelespatat2670 Жыл бұрын

@@YourLocalRaider Considering you almost always instantly dies the moment you're found out, its a fair trade-off

@ishigamithanku4960 Жыл бұрын

@@YourLocalRaider spy wasn't even in the game at first, it's a bug

@bruhbruh-us6gl Жыл бұрын

@@ishigamithanku4960 Spy was always a part of tf2 and tfc, disguises were a bug from tfc that was made a feature in tf2

@oranbluethorn3956 Жыл бұрын

I always like disguises because making them work is a test of how well you know all 8 other classes. Whenever you disguise as someone, unless you don't care for subtlety, you have to think back to when you played the class, realize what and where is natural, and act while keeping tabs on everything. It's a great test of your skill at every class, because if you play the class bad, the enemies wil likely see the heavy they KNOW is more skilled than that standing at a really bad spot. But if you do know the class? You can act very smoothly sometimes

@ravenfrancis1476 Жыл бұрын

I actually think acting exactly how you personally would as that class is the wrong way of going about it. Remember, you're not just disguising yourself as another class, you're disguising yourself as *another player* presently in the game - unless you chose to disguise as a class not being currently used in the match anyway. Like, if you disguise yourself as a Sniper player that's been moving around the whole game to avoid getting trapped to a specific location and make themselves unpredictable to your team but when you disguise as them you sit patiently and act like you're waiting for your targets to come to you, you're going to at the very least get people suspicious.

@Introbulus 6 ай бұрын

All 9 actually - don't neglect disguising as a spy. Especially effective on maps where there's less of a clear line between attack and defense areas, or when coming out of spawn and not in line of sight of *your* team.

@somerandomyoutuber3509 6 ай бұрын

Jontohil: “I assure you, if you caught them, they are nothing like me.”

@AtomizerBaT Жыл бұрын

This is expertly crafted and edited! Some disguises I've found work well are: Scout, crouching, with his secondary out Demo + Sniper with their melees out, spamming X + 2 ("Spy!") Pyro with his secondary out

@NerdyCatCoffeeee Жыл бұрын

kinda ironic *you* - "SPY! SPY!" *Team* - "Where?" *YOU* - "Right behind ya!" _stab stab stab_

@LowProfile0247 Жыл бұрын

3:44 not only that, but since changing disguises is way faster than putting on a new disguise, disguising first as your team while walking to combat then changing to a normal one is faster and reduces the chance of the enemy team seeing you through spawn wallhacks

@lecommentar9851 Жыл бұрын

Sniper works really well if you're on anything high up/with open view

@justfriccoff3363 Жыл бұрын

Incorrect

@somerandom2637 11 ай бұрын

@@justfriccoff3363 ?

@ItzZ4p Жыл бұрын

I thought the intros were cool so here are all of them. 11:07-Scout 11:44-Soldier 12:00-Pyro 12:30-Demoman 12:51-Heavy 13:13-Engineer 13:36-Medic 14:02-Sniper 14:43-Spy

@nickmorzinski5558 2 ай бұрын

Pyro’s menacing piano theme is amazing

@JSmith213 Жыл бұрын

14:53 you missed a rather important point about the Spy disguise; the disguise mask of your disguise is randomly chosen from the 9 classes which is another thing that can instantly give you away as a heavy/soldier/demo disguised spy moving at his regular 107% is extremely easy to spot. great video, lots of advice for newer spies to work with!

@avexus7756 Жыл бұрын

damn i didnt even know that!

@Introbulus 6 ай бұрын

Is there any way to change your fake disguise? Or for that matter any way to tell who you're fake disguised as?

@dovahkat9635 6 ай бұрын

@@Introbuluspretty sure the mask appears on the disguise model on your hud, so you could see it there. But lets be honest, if someone is paying close enough attention to see what your mask looks like, you were probably getting spy checked anyway.

@Introbulus 6 ай бұрын

@@dovahkat9635 I just want to do the full spy roleplay meta of pretending to act like the fake class I'm disguised as to fool my team into thinking I'm a legitimate spy. And then try to backstab my own teammates when I fall too far into the roleplay.

@spacebassist 3 ай бұрын

@@Introbulus "he's spent too long in the game, he could be in too deep. You, new spy, go and see if you can get him out of there"

@Adusakful Жыл бұрын

3:45 Also kind of small detail but I like disguising as friendly scout when pushing a cart or doing objective due to the head hitbox displacement, unsure if it ever saved me from headshot but there's a chance Also props to spy mains like you, I always preferred the "actors" over "trickstab kunai" which treat disguise as just a "fool a sentry gun" tool

@Jontohil2 Жыл бұрын

Never thought of that, it’d also have the added benefit of the reduced redisguise time once you need to jump into the fight

@Ph0n3numb3r Жыл бұрын

im a medic main, and i would much rather run into people who actually play spy properly instead of kunai spies in litterally every single game i get into. im serious. I would rather die to someone actually being good at the game rather than someone who abuses tf2s janky af hitboxes and netcode.

@hevnet Жыл бұрын

@@Ph0n3numb3r kunai spies on their way to perfectly replicate and best a TAS speedrun of a game (they have a good gaming chair)

@spore6050 Жыл бұрын

i always love how i use the trickstab kunai weeb spy loadout but yet i try the best i can to blend in with trick stabbing as a last resort. works super well and it’s pretty fun

@LottsyMusic 26 күн бұрын

@@Ph0n3numb3r That's just different playstyles, I don't understand how you can call a single playstyle a "proper" one and "actually good at the game"

@OmegaRC59 Жыл бұрын

Disguises are also way stronger if you go for a lot of gun picks. It's much harder to sus a spy out if they're not making a beeline for the enemy's back. I tend to switch it up a lot just because of that

@Jontohil2 Жыл бұрын

It's really good at catching low health players running for health as well.

@vivelespatat2670 Жыл бұрын

That's what the Enforcer encourages you to do, finishing off low hp ennemies while disguised and your 20% damage bonus, too bad its outclassed by the Ambassador

@giahuynguyenkim6389 Жыл бұрын

There's a secret that I wanted to tell you about backstab. Let them go backwards into you.

@rift7609 Жыл бұрын

I use default revolver because of this lol, one time a solo demo man was half health so I just unlocked and gunned him down,

@OmegaRC59 Жыл бұрын

@@rift7609 Honestly I even DM full health demos if I'm close enough to them lmao, they're pretty viable for a 3 shot kill unlike pyro who you need to stay away from. Demos are pretty easy unless they're really cracked

@Artcat932 Жыл бұрын

12:50 I’ve realised standing next to another Demo’s sticky trap with your Stickybomb launcher out is a very very convincing disguise.

@francesquare8708 3 ай бұрын

bro missed an opportunity to call it spychology

@ghhn4505 5 күн бұрын

The pfp and username is more fitting here than any video out there

@czebosak Жыл бұрын

I thought that this was just going to be an entertaining video for me, because I already know a lot of information about/strategies with the spy, but it turns out that I actually learned quite a few things that I overlooked before. For example, I didn't realize that the sniper disguise is pretty much ignored by the enemy team.

@Jontohil2 Жыл бұрын

Who needs cloak and dagger when you have sniper disguise? (I jest tho C&D is underrated asf)

@mishagaming1075 Жыл бұрын

@@Jontohil2 Or maybe you just can't find people who use cloak and dagger because they're ALWAYS CLOAKED.

@randombrit4504 Жыл бұрын

@@mishagaming1075 i use cloak and dagger, can confirm, i have been cloaked for the past six years after three counts of home invasion. the police are yet to find me. they have resorted to randomly spraying fire into any corner they see.

@SamTRD Жыл бұрын

The TF2 community always has gems hidden in plain sight. I love seeing small channels just appear out of nowhere and start releasing bangers.

@ryanhernandez8324 Жыл бұрын

9:34 Missed the opportunity to say, 'Disguise usage is like a trickstab, with a little more focus on the tricks and a little less focus on the stab." But i guess that's more of, like Soundsmith's style, so good video either way!

@Prezy_Preztail 20 күн бұрын

I read that in Soundsmith’s voice and it does sound like something he’d say in Mann’s guide

@Derglebom Жыл бұрын

This guy is a great youtuber, he's funny, a great editor, makes good guides, seriously, why is he not more popular!?!?

@Looona_fan 5 ай бұрын

Because, algorithm.

@orealfrajola 5 ай бұрын

Cause he plays the Fr*nch class

@jihwan990706 Жыл бұрын

I loved the part where you disguised as a sniper with kukri to fool the demo, reminds me of the old times when I played tf2 religiously and whenever I played spy, I sucked at trickstabs so I learned to be good at acting; honestly, acting is harder to pull off but the feeling is more rewarding, it’s way too satisfying to quit haha Thanks for the great video!!

@ripwaluigi5234 Жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for someone to make a video like this to prove how useful disguise can be, it feels like a lot of people just say 'disguising is useless' without really learning how to use it. There were a lot of tips here I didn't even realise - it seems i never knew how good disguise actually was myself either.

@tomandjerry5698 Жыл бұрын

Same

@Buglin_Burger7878 Жыл бұрын

A lot of people say it is useless because some decent strategies can give it away. If you see an ally and are out of combat shoot/melee. If they do the same back not a spy... if they don't or are moving in your direction shoot more. A very notable one is "gun greeting" your Engineer, a spy won't be shooting you. With decent team positioning it is possible to completely invalidate disguises.

@Artcat932 Жыл бұрын

I play Gun Spy, so I don’t really used disguises. But I have to admit, convincing the entire enemy team you’re their Sniper is so fun.

@limerumpus3589 Жыл бұрын

@@Buglin_Burger7878 naturally you can outplay people who use these techniques. if you are running around at the back of enemy lines for an extended period of time, someone will shoot at you. but if you only choose to become visible during action on the front lines its easy to fool players for 1-3 seconds to get a backstab

@propangasschnuffle Жыл бұрын

9:25 he had 12 health. did you not know that Spy has a gun?

@razorwolf2758 9 ай бұрын

He had an opportunity to use the knife

@bobbydacoolguy8006 Жыл бұрын

2:10 heavy: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaAAAAaaaaAAAAAAAAaaaaAAaaaAaa

@thescoutguy8367 Жыл бұрын

Something to keep in mind is if a medic is healing you when you’re disguised as a scout, it’s almost immediately obvious to the medic that he’s not gaining the speed boost to match a scout’s own speed. Furthermore, a slight correction: the ubersaw doesn’t have a higher crit chance, nor do any other medic melees; rather I’ve heard that crit chance increases based on the damage dealt from the player the medic is healing.

@MissingShibe Жыл бұрын

Every class has a different melee crit consistency, medic has the highest

@hyhyd6135 Жыл бұрын

14:38 I don't know why but this scene is really funny to me

@retol4524 Жыл бұрын

This guide seriously helps. I've sucked at disguising, and keep in mind, I started playing tf2 in 2018. You probably think someone who's played tf2 for years would be good, but no, I always sucked. But with these guides, I've genuinely seen improvements. I really do owe you a lot, jonto

@Toonrick12 5 ай бұрын

2:04 NOM.

@jawsboi2151 Жыл бұрын

I've never given the spy a proper try but your videos have been straight to the point and really helpful. I got a nasty chain stab the other night and I'm now fully addicted to the class

@pogchaz7044 Жыл бұрын

This is an absolutely stunningly crafted vid, love the editing and SFM elements, can see you being huge in a small amount of time with content like this. Keep it up!:)

@thewoodpeckers655 Жыл бұрын

9:10 you use this clip as just a simple example. But to me and probably a lot of other people, that acting is worth an Oscar nomination.

@LordRemiem 6 ай бұрын

4:57 the funny is that there is a knife specifically built around the concept of disguising as whoever you kill

@theneatpenguin7862 Жыл бұрын

As someone who loves the your eternal reward, I can say that spy's disguises are very underrated. People who say that spy may as well not have a disguise kit don't know what they're talking about. Amazing video, great advice!

@rickatron2033 Жыл бұрын

it really puts in to perspective how much i use these tricks like how i always shoot at friendly spys or how over used my disguises are and nice work on the sfm and music brings it all together amazingly

@SussyNutty Жыл бұрын

15:21 scary

@gibby3216 Жыл бұрын

Pyro is usually my go to disguise for all situations, my muscle memory instantly presses '3' when I open my disguise kit. I find that throughout longer rounds, with the more common scout disguise, the opponents wise up to it a lot quicker than with pyro. Pyro is just a good disguise, movement speed is good, I'm already used to 100% from before spy's buff, pyro is also expected to be an oddity of sorts, even if ideal in close quarters, they don't look as suspicious when out of their close range element. Pyro's a jack of all trades, they'd be acceptable in any situation a scout would be. Another kind of niche observation, but I think fully stock pyro doesn't look as out of place as with other classes, for those games when there's no enemy playing on the class you're disguised as, it's not that big of an issue for a pyro disguise.

@Jontohil2 Жыл бұрын

I do actually agree that pyro is a really good disguise (but I avoided saying that to avoid the "best disguise" thing). I'd defo recommend switching it from time to time just to keep people guessing, or switching it when they THINK they're onto you.

@binjimonanimations Жыл бұрын

9:18 that was GENIUS

@The_RetroManiac Жыл бұрын

4:33 As a player learning how to play da engineer, thank you for bringing this fact to my attention.

@lastfirst5863 Жыл бұрын

Disguises don’t have to work very long either, the amount of times I’ve realized someone is a spy a second before they kill me is too high to count.

@midnightplayzyt9239 Жыл бұрын

Very informative, and engaging! Why are there not a lot of people watching this? This is actual quality!

@dashyz3293 Жыл бұрын

1:29 You can also disguise into the same class while holding a weapon to switch to that corresponding weapon slot. If you're confused, just think of it like you are disguising into your last used disguise(the current one you are using) not with B, but with the long way around. Also on acting: Check your HUD once in a while if you've been disguised a while. If you accidentally changed to your melee, you're usually pretty sus unless you're an engi or spy.

@solidmetagross Жыл бұрын

4:02 holy SHIT this is smooth as hell my dude, also based Qumu fan

@Halberds6 29 күн бұрын

World Bowser

@oliverfreitas8593 Жыл бұрын

5:35 min ITS NOT A SPY, ITS THE *GOD*

@wafflecon6029 Жыл бұрын

A favorite disguise of mine is actually a sniper bot. Like it sounds really dumb but it surprisingly works especially if a bot previously joined the game. Just disguise as sniper and flick around your mouse and the enemy team will just think your a bit lol

@YourLocalRaider Жыл бұрын

7:43 It also works to look AWAY from the team while running away from them. It won't be suspicious unless you're looking at the Medic as well, but when going to the backline of the enemy team, it could be suspicious unless the Medic seems to trust you.

@racheltoothaker3259 Жыл бұрын

13:59 Scotsman skullcutter AM I A JOKE TO YOU!!

@Trainlover1995 Жыл бұрын

1:39 Actually, the game assigns some VERY weird terms to Spy's item slots. What should be his primary (the Revolver) is called a "secondary", and what should be his secondary (the Sapper) is called a "building". I guess Valve's logic is that the Revolver is a pistol, and therefore HAS to be a secondary. Either that, or they consider his Knife his primary.

@Jontohil2 Жыл бұрын

I’m aware of this as well, but it makes the system easier to explain if I call the revolver the primary

@404_nowheresnotfound3 Жыл бұрын

8:44 in general I would advisory against disguising as a pro in most case. Even if you some how act like someone who’s loadout is worth more then your house and has never left theirs before fire over your head and a bright shining gun isn’t exactly conspicuous. A noob acting weird will always be more believable then a pro. Think about all the times you have spy checked a Gibus for them to just turn out to be confused little creatures (bless their souls) or when you have purposely walked up to your team mate when you other wise wouldn’t have to check out their Cool loadout. One of the biggest tips I can give for spy disguises is don’t think “What should I be doing as spy” think “What would I be doing if I was playing this class?”

@shreyaskumar5366 Жыл бұрын

Just dont let this timeless masterpiece of a game die out 🥺🙏🙏

@nickmorzinski5558 3 ай бұрын

The game is immortal, I don't think it'll just die out.

@wr3nche5 Ай бұрын

this is my favourite episode of spychology. the point on acting and where you're looking is SUCH a strong tip and works so well, and is also really fun when you successfully pull it off

@MrOrgeston Жыл бұрын

Disguising as the sniper who's looking for you was incredible.

@dawnhampshire 8 ай бұрын

This editing is INSANELY good. The contents are already fantastic but god DAMN this is so good. As an editor I have so much respect

@gigamoumantai2696 Жыл бұрын

12:25 Spy when he's getting caught by a Pyro.

@waterness6874 9 ай бұрын

4:02 that transition man i love it.

@Mixxium 10 ай бұрын

It's fun to disguise yourself as a friendly medic as a lure for hungry scout mains. Extra points if you just switched off of medic last life and you disguise as yourself

@pixelz3040 Жыл бұрын

Oh my god I can't believe this. Watching your Spy series almost instantly improved my gameplay. Almost all of it was because of this video. The idea that you should actually act as the class you're disguised feels like it should be obvious, but once you start consciously trying to blend in, you get way better results than just assuming "oh I'm disguised I'm basically invisible." I took down a full engie nest today while a pybro was spychecking everyone in sight! What a rush! Thank you so much for this, I would recommend this to all spy-mains-in-training everywhere! Also, for some reason snipers love to assume that a pyro rambling next to them is just spy checking. Use this knowledge wisely!

@ShovelLettuce Жыл бұрын

The visuals make are so fun and easy to understand. I really like the way this man presents

@Pinkstarclan 2 ай бұрын

production quality on this is insane, i got goosebumps at the individual disguises. holy shit

@anthonyoliver418 24 күн бұрын

A good tip is to assert your self in a situation that feels natural, I once got fooled as engie by a spy disguised as demo who just went next to my dispenser like he was recovering in my nest like everyone else, I was fooled because I was heavily defending my nest while being confused on if I was bumping into him or the dispenser, combine that with him being healed by my building, preventing him from dying before I was fooled, he did everything he needed to blend in without dying

@splish8869 Жыл бұрын

In a similar vein to the hitbox displacement on scout you should consider your disguise's model. The scout has a very small character model, so he's overall less visible. It may seem insignificant, but if you decloak, and an enemy sees a massive heavy and his mini gun poking out from around the corner popping into existence, they're gonna know there's a spy

@ProfessorEggnog Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed watching this and absolutely loved the unique flair in the editing! Using the disguise kit effectively is the most fun part of playing spy (for me anyway) and is the reason why I always choose him when nobody else is spy, there's something so satisfying about tricking the enemy into believing you're their teammate and constantly fooling unsuspected players, regardless of their own skill.

@k9medic39 Жыл бұрын

I've had some really amazing plays with Spy's disguises. My favorites are usually when I even manage to fool my experienced buddies, who usually have played TF2 longer than I have. My favorite play that I've ever made with Spy was with my buddy Polter, who was also playing Spy with me. One could argue that having more than one Spy is problematic, but when we BOTH disguised as the enemy, we often had times where we walked through each other, fooling the enemy team into thinking we were friendly. I mean really, if you see your Engineer and Pyro walk through each other, your brain automatically goes "Yup, that checks out. Nothing wrong there." It led to some really awesome plays and even funnier mind games lol Awesome video man. There are so many players that overlook the disguise kit or don't know how to use it, and it's great to see tutorials like this.

@superdan333 9 ай бұрын

how to master spy: develop multiple personality disorder

@terra-the-axolotl Жыл бұрын

This is a really damn good video honestly. The format, style, soundworks, and actual information are amazing throughout this entire video! Phenomenal job making this.

@quplet Жыл бұрын

Just wanted to say it is incredibly surprising for a video of this high quality to come out of a channel with relatively few subscribers. Keep up the good work!

@SimpliBot 6 ай бұрын

Why does the disguse roster introduction be AMAZING. Like the editing, themes, are PERFECT

@alivecree 9 ай бұрын

i already knew most of the stuff in the video and yet stuck around for the whole video even after i heard the answer for what i was looking for in the beginning - all because the STYLE dude.. the style of this video is so fucking good i was literally kicking my feet through the whole video because of the way you edited and created it

@PikaPilot Жыл бұрын

just wanna mention, sometimes passing up on a backstab that you could have taken will fool players who are looking at you. This can help you get a higher priority pick

@Jontohil2 Жыл бұрын

That's a really good point, you can see me putting that into action at 16:07.

@greeneggsnspam2111 Жыл бұрын

This is very much true. In my experience, though, it can be a risk vs reward assessment, as if you wait too long for the perfect pick, the odds of you dying to something stupid become much higher, and you might die without accomplishing anything instead of getting a low value stab and maybe getting out.

@TheSecondLaughingSoldier Жыл бұрын

4:50 I laughed so much that once I cracked my neck accidentally and unlocked 3rd person mode, I was still laughing.

@RedNumber19 6 ай бұрын

As a sneaky spy, one of the worst type of players are the people that vigorously spy check for no reason. Here’s me, in a side passage, away from the cart, invisible. Enter maniac pyro, who for some reason is spy checking that whole corridor.

@antimonyparanoia Жыл бұрын

I found that disguising as your own team's heavy is amazing for fooling snipers. It takes them a shot to figure out your head is actually below where you head is and that can be all you need to get by. sometimes they'll take two or three shots before thinking of a disguise if they even know you can disguise as your own team which some players dont

@theiceknight4457 23 күн бұрын

Should be noted, no amount of acting is going to convince a paranoid player.

@RandomFurry07 21 күн бұрын

And that's why... Leave em alone

@s_callahan 3 күн бұрын

strike in combat when they're distracted

@nintendosegafan4935 Жыл бұрын

9:54 *RIP Camera*

@gerryedwards2525 23 күн бұрын

‘U can’t use spy to go to the backlines’ WELL I DID.

@Im_just_built_different 5 ай бұрын

this is so awesome, you have made my game tab screens go from ‘3 kills, 1000 deaths’ to ‘4 kills and 999 deaths’ thank you jonto!

@docnathan3959 Жыл бұрын

You know a game is good and iconic when most guides are recent despite the game being really old

@RWtubb Жыл бұрын

Thank you man, as a spy main since 2011 i really appreciate the new guides for the people barely playing the game! Also, we have the same spy load out haha.

@jollygrapefruit786 Жыл бұрын

A spy who can trick stab can be pretty scary, but still easily delt with so long as you remember that you have a gun. But a spy who can ACT? Now that's a nightmare.

@davidcaceres9184 4 ай бұрын

"How to diguise" Press 4 and then 1-9

@cosmiccup9177 6 ай бұрын

3:52 i actually do this sometimes. It typically works decently and it's really funny making the enemy wonder if my own team mates are dead or if its me

@rexxierose Жыл бұрын

3:25 its so fucking wild to me that i came across this video because that clip is from my Girlfriend's youtube channel lmao, i was not expecting to see one of her clips in a tf2 video but its so cool and im glad that clip got into this video!

@Jontohil2 Жыл бұрын

She showed up in my discord after you messaged her. The story behind it is that because of a config I used to use, I don't have spawning wallhacks anymore, so I need an example clip of it, and her clip ended up being the best showcase of it, and I made sure to rightfully credit it.

@rexxierose Жыл бұрын

@@Jontohil2 hell yeah 🤘

@edub4240 Жыл бұрын

This is actually one of the best made videos I've ever seen. The editing is perfect, the amount of effort that was dumped into it is perfect. I can't believe you only have 30k subs.

@EpsilonKnight2 Жыл бұрын

Disguising as your own team with the dead ringer is actually a really effective way to help divert shots away from your teammates and creating that initial opening since they won't know as much they just "killed" a spy. One of the best by far to disguise as is your own teams medic with the uber gun out. It's not super easy to keep track of the heal beam if the medic is *good* and keeping the whole team healed but the bigger benefit is that the enemy team will kill your fake body, believing they've now got an opening to push forward but then suddenly your real medic ubers and crushes those hopes. Not only that but you're effectively forcing the enemy team to shoot at you regardless if they know there's a spy copying your team's medic because it's too big of a risk to leave ANY possible medics alive.

@ARCtrooper65 3 ай бұрын

Battle Medic main here. I know we are rare, but check to see if the enemy Medic is a Battle Medic. It will give you a lot of room to run around and get both close and aways from your team

@tristianhocknell2957 Жыл бұрын

10:00 that’s a good point that I wanted to do/happen but I keep forgetting about it before I get to use it 5 sec edit: -and thought that other didn’t think about it

@RevolutionaryOven Жыл бұрын

For someone who plays as an actually good spy and doesn't just trickstab or rely on wonky hitboxes/melee reg 24/7, I have mad respect for you playing spy the way he's meant to be played.

@anthonyoliver418 24 күн бұрын

These videos are great because they actually teach players how to play into spy’s strengths, rather than telling you disguises are worthless and trick stabs are the only game plan

@pistonguy9619 Жыл бұрын

That is the actual most insane editing and animating I’ve ever seen, keep up the extraordinary work!

@ottofort Жыл бұрын

were is the gsa passer 5:05 1/1000 video unwattachabe!!!!!!!!!!!

@bman_the_mumbo_fan Жыл бұрын

i really like what you did with the heavy at 2:05

@pikazilla6405 2 ай бұрын

One niche application of the yer that I find interesting (that is more effective in a vacuum but never works for me because my target is never alone) is when i backstab a medic healing someone I immediately press B and then call out that there's a spy, which might just be a good enough temporary measure to assure the pocket isn't immediately suspicious of the fact healing abruptly stopped