V8 Swapped Miata vs Ford Mustang GT Drag Race & Roll Race

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Thanks to Sarasota Super Sport Performance (3SP) for sponsoring this video. Go to ( www.sarasotasupersport.com ) to learn more about 3SP's performance packages for the current generation (ND) Mazda Miata!
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intro
0:25 First drag race: V8 Ford Mustang GT vs V8 Miata
3:38 More on the 3SP's V8 Miata
10:22 Drag Race #2
12:31 Bringing in the equalizer: The Porsche 911 Targa 4S
16:02 Porsche vs. V8 Miata drag race
18:29 Roll race: Porsche vs. V8 Miata
20:07 Closing thoughts
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Пікірлер: 228

@TFLcar 9 күн бұрын

@SkyyMi 7 күн бұрын

A V8 go kart with a full interior with a Vin and Plates. I mean what more could you want in life

@Pilot545 7 күн бұрын

A Porsche, apparently.

@NycX360 7 күн бұрын

@@Pilot545 Exactly! I'd like to see it vs a 718 now

@Kclerie 7 күн бұрын

A LS swap with a curb of 2790lbs, and 50/50 is insane.

@gofetchdesignllc2235 5 күн бұрын

Hate to sound like THAT guy, but it's the most impressive part of buying something like a used c5z or c6z. 3080 or under with zero weight reduction, 50/50 and a FAR more capable chassis. Even a regular coupe isn't far off and its not difficult at all getting them to 2800-2900 lbs. I was very close to LS swapping my last but the smart money is on the vette. That said, the experience in a car like that is pretty non trivial. I've driven many cobras, own a blown vette and a viper but an LS3 Miata would be an entirely different animal.

@92rednotch 8 сағат бұрын

Not 50/50 anymore. As a GM guy, I love the LS, but the swaps are tired.

@NWI_Steel 7 күн бұрын

I didnt catch "V8" in the title, clicked on it, and was so confused what tommy was driving 😂

@Cloud30000 7 күн бұрын

I would definitely get myself in a lot of trouble with that Miata.

@propertypreparedness6846 7 күн бұрын

Love seeing a guy who gets to live out his passion. We all should aspire to do that.

@Cloud30000 7 күн бұрын

That Miata is one of the few cars that actually needs a big rear spoiler to have any hope of utilizing the full power

@Cloud30000 7 күн бұрын

I would love to see that Miata with giant summer race slicks and a spoiler, then rematch the 911 to see the difference.

@trixkid27 6 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@williamgentry3427 6 күн бұрын

Spoilers are for turns, not street cars in a straight line. 11’s in nowhere near fast enough to need a wing for straights.

@chiemekaa 7 күн бұрын

Most impressive is shoehorning a 6.2L V8 inside a Miata!

@NBSV1 7 күн бұрын

That’s why LS swaps are so common. Old style pushrod engine makes them more compact. I’d like to do one with a short stroke LS built for high rpm. You don’t really need the high torque in a light car so making it a high rpm screamer would be fun.

@_shreyash_anand 6 күн бұрын

@@NBSV1 A screamer LS Miata with 650-700hp? I'd pay for that

@richfarfugnuven6308 6 күн бұрын

There is a guy in Texas that drag races an electric Miata that he built for under 20k with forklift batteries and motors. He is running in the 8 second quarter mile now...

@AceCyberstarGaming 7 күн бұрын

“Should have a 2 Liter Naturally Aspirated Squirrel underneath the hood “ 😂

@AmericanDuck 6 күн бұрын

If they brought the price down about $40k, you’d have a tons of these on the road. Great idea, but executed to a ridiculous price point.

@dub88acc 5 күн бұрын

I think thats the point. Considering a Lotus Emira with 400+ hp and even a cayman gt4 are all north of 100k. So this is around that ballpark. You're paying for someone else doing the research and putting in the sweat in order for you to daily drive it.

@spcneary 4 күн бұрын

@@dub88accvery true, people try to put these in the same box as a stock Miata or a mustang GT, it’s so much more than that. Honestly what a value, if I had 100k-140k to buy a fun car and already owned a a daily and a pickup this would be in my top 3. I used to work at a Mazda dealer, the RF is a very good car from the factory and much more worthy of a v8 than older models.

@AmericanDuck 4 күн бұрын

@@dub88acc I understand what you mean, but this is not a Porsche or Lotus. Much of the engineering has already been accomplished by Mazda and Flyin’ Miata. The cost and labor of the parts is at a premium. There is no reason to buy this car if you can get those cars with loan and a full warranty or a lease. It’s a very expensive novelty otherwise that most people that enjoy Miatas are going to balk at. If you undercut those cars with a better price, then you’ve got a great opportunity to make even more money because of a value that will increase the company’s profits through volume. Everyone wins. Maybe they are doing it that way, but it doesn’t seem like it.

@AceCyberstarGaming 7 күн бұрын

V8 Miata sounds epic!!!

@mikeyc8139 7 күн бұрын

$100,000 Mazda after car+mods is not really my thing but hey, the Miata crew... maybe.

@impurfekt 7 күн бұрын

That Miata needs an exorcist.

@larrycuritsjr7289 7 күн бұрын

Guys, I appreciate that you got on with the drag race right away! You filled all the info in the middle & finished up with an additional race. Awesome pacing of video!

@ScoobyFermentation 7 күн бұрын

Nice write-off for Roman’s personal $150k Porsche 911.

@LeslieGreenberg 4 күн бұрын

Stang runs 12.4_115. Stock. Meata. 11.26._123...any questions ????

@joyroc885 Күн бұрын

Remember seeing one of these on The smoking tire channel a while back. I wanted one then and I still want one now. lol

@MidwestMotor 2 күн бұрын

I WAS SO looking forward to watching this video but after the very first 10 seconds I'M OUTTA HERE!!!!! The SCREACHING man imploded my head!

@wackit6756 Күн бұрын

Geez, you would think they would put the top on in the Miata to reduce drag, seems like a no brainer for better acceleration times.

@Roddy451 2 күн бұрын

I lived in a place where engine swapping was very common. The craziest ones I watched were a Volvo 240DL with a big-block V8 and a Suzuki Forsa with a 1.8 Toyota engine. Needless to say, the Miata is my cup of tea.

@ctbtyper 2 сағат бұрын

Tommy's reaction in the drag race made my day! :D

@davidblalock9945 6 күн бұрын

Just imagine how much more insane it would be with a 345 HEMI. Dave Friburger already proved that with just a cam it can produce 496 hp. With the right cam, springs, rockers, and valve relief in the pistons, I’m thinking it could push mid 500’s.

@sbklvr Күн бұрын

Or a k24 with a turbo, less weight and 500hp easy.

@phillyhump 5 күн бұрын

So, the way I understood it was $75,000 on top of the price of the car. Lol. So over 100,000 for Miata? A MIATA!?!?

@user-jw1fp8vl8e 7 күн бұрын

SWEET! thanks' for keeping these alive

@GTStuning- 6 күн бұрын

I've tuned a few older Miatas as well as 350z and FR-S cars with 6 speed LS swaps. Super fun combo

@justinstiff5641 7 күн бұрын

Naturally aspirated squirrel 🐿️🐿️🐿️🐿️ hahaha 🤣

@WaveManMike 7 күн бұрын

They should do this to a Lotus!

@dougpendleton1266 7 күн бұрын

Great job guys!!!

@markspence3750 7 күн бұрын

I just watched "Ford v Ferrari" and I have always wondered why nobody makes a modern version of the AC Cobra with a roof, preferably with a 289, not a 427. Kit cars are one thing, but a factory-built car would be awesome.

@dannyphamous 4 күн бұрын

Really fun and amazing review!

@bryaninnc5511 7 күн бұрын

Awesome video! Reminds me of the Scarab Z cars

@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman 4 күн бұрын

Miata has the Heartbeat of America but that German engineering 🏁

@weegeemike 7 күн бұрын

I would LOVE to own one of these...im sure theyre at least $60k, dude has a LOT of parts and labor involved in a build like this.

@dannykennedy5885 6 күн бұрын

Love this content!

@sbklvr Күн бұрын

Pretty awesome Miata, wondering if maybe a turbo Kswap would be a better route, less weight, .more room for activities. How about the 911 running low 12s , a mile up. That rear motor set up has all the grip. Geeat video, guys.

@dtruth5769 3 күн бұрын

I own a Miata. And love it. Even with the V8, you can't compare it to having a Cobra SC. Imo

@Nellie-H 6 күн бұрын

Great job! Sarasota my hometown! His location is actually in Bradenton 😉

@StardustADV Күн бұрын

Funniest part, in this race the mustang with the performance package is the budget option, and the miata is the middle option lol I would pick the miata, if i had the money lol

@GODEYE270115 5 күн бұрын

Never thought I’d see a miata that actually looks intimidating The fact that it hooks off the line is nuts

@TheLuis1108 3 сағат бұрын

Dont know who these guys are or anything about them but I loved this video lol it was awesome also I think the guy that owns a Miata should send it to the Florida guy to get it built and show us lol it would be sick

@_Chev_Chelios 4 күн бұрын

He said that engine has a cam… That is incredible.

@billnorblat4047 7 күн бұрын

Thank you for actually launching the Targa! So frustrating to watch Roman just roll the throttle on.

@TFLcar 7 күн бұрын

Roman says he does that just to piss you off🤔

@MrDinodane 7 күн бұрын

That car is awesome. Love the sound

@stephbarbershop2518 Күн бұрын

I haven't seen Tommy in a while and all of a sudden he looks more like his dad.

@stevenarseneault1972 7 күн бұрын

What if you launched the Miata in 2nd gear? Should hook up with low torque then max HP in high rpms.

@Tony-hf9mv 4 күн бұрын

When you truly think about it the miata with a big engine would be a modern Shelby Cobra

@NycX360 7 күн бұрын

That PDK gearbox in the Porsche!

@herbwheeler4470 Күн бұрын

I'd be happy with a GM 3.8 V6 turbo in the Miata. As long as it's manual.

@sombut415 7 күн бұрын

That’s hella krazy! So badazz!

@djsnoopmike 3 күн бұрын

The Miata sounding like a Corvette is breaking my brain

@lincolnls0416 23 сағат бұрын

Be way faster if it was Coyote swap. I have seen way worse. Saw a College build a Metro with a 454 in it. Yellow. Pinto with a 429 in it.

@lokinocmrperfaq4two175 7 күн бұрын

Wht about driver safety features like tracion n stability, do they work?

@BigAl22 7 күн бұрын

Love when you guys do modded stuff!! That's when the Toyotas especially get really fun 😎😎

@markspence3750 7 күн бұрын

That is alot of work to put a Camaro rear diff in that car. That's almost more work than the crate engine....

@cup_and_cone 7 күн бұрын

Would have liked to know what the 0-60 and 1/4 figures were.

@jeffreybalandra8891 7 күн бұрын

Now that’s a nice little fun car to drift

@chrism869 7 күн бұрын

that v8 miata is something else

@kwjr.9569 7 күн бұрын

Love that miata. Wow.

@absoluteclownworld 4 күн бұрын

The NC ( previous generation ) miata 6 speed would hold that power I'm sure.. but ya the ND trans is definitely not gunna cut it here lol.

@jamesonpace726 7 күн бұрын

Ok, now that's the dern coolest sleeper, ever....

@chandleredwards 7 күн бұрын

Sweet modern version of a Shelby. Maybe find a Miata EV AWD conversion to compare. This Miata looks to be a blast to drive.

@psyberiusblack 4 күн бұрын

Haven’t seen the video yet. But I already know the answer. Miata. Because it’s always the answer 😎 Edit: Soooo tempted to call this guy up and swap mine!

@kuntekinte6246 3 күн бұрын

It definitely is nice, but 75K is a little steep. Eldenbrock sell super- charges or if you like turbo BBR. For about 10K with Ethanol Injection people are getting about 420 hp to the wheels.

@Davepq100 2 күн бұрын

The way the Miata should be with at least an Ecoboost 4 or a 6 cylinder

@ewoggerts 7 күн бұрын

He had the roof off its pretty much a giant parachute.

@relentlessenterprises9238 5 күн бұрын

Pretty badass! Sucks it's still a miata lol

@tfcooks 7 күн бұрын

If I had that car I'm sure I'd get myself killed... but I'd die happy. 😁

@bendito7417 7 күн бұрын

Why Tommy didnt raced with the top up? Its was removed to save weight?👀😎

@Gbus85302 5 күн бұрын

Tommy just became a man in this Video 😂

@johnraygun9868 6 күн бұрын

I've never been much of a Miata person but the last few years i started thinking it could be fun but this, this i could 100% have fun in lol now that i am retired from the army the cogs are starting to turn :D i have a naked bike with 200+hp and 150ftlb of torque that weighs 400lbs wet with no rider aids but i am 45 now so maybe this would be more mature of me lol

@VictorPitstop 6 күн бұрын

That’s all the Miata is, fun. You should at least drive one.

@MrCarGuy23 6 күн бұрын

Why do all these car channels use the slower 6 speed mustang when they race against other cars

@TevinWeatherspoon 6 күн бұрын

The automatic mustang would've had a better chance but that miata is insane!!!!!

@SolveFixBuild 7 күн бұрын

I wonder if a Whipple would fit under the Miata’s hood. 🤔

@NBSV1 7 күн бұрын

The small/medium ones would. Seen a few with centrifugal superchargers too.

@SolveFixBuild 7 күн бұрын

@@NBSV1 wow that would be an incredible experience driving one. Probably 600-ish hp.

@antartorres7594 Күн бұрын

Power to weight ratio. 😂 that is the answer

@dmart29 7 күн бұрын

Never thought I’d say this…that Miata sounds so good 👌

@luisbarraza9709 7 күн бұрын

When we getting the 911 series? Ordering, Delivery video, full review, etc. I know it’s Roman dream car. We are fan of TFL ans Roman let’s share in his joy.

@spartanchirho 7 күн бұрын

If they brought that car all the way put I hope Paul gets to take it around the track!!!

@_Chev_Chelios 4 күн бұрын

Damn, the curly head guy really isn’t cut out for driving performance cars. Looks like s/he pooped from a 14 second quarter mile! 🤣🤣🤣 Then rayban uses the word “fierce”… I held back an embarrassment barf.

@esurles1 4 күн бұрын

that miata is around 1000lbs lighter with close hp to the mustang its definitely had the upper hand

@canalesivany 4 күн бұрын

Tfl need to try automatic 10 mustang

@Eklectic1 7 күн бұрын

A wild third party engineered Miata-Vette is still no match for Porsche's precision passion.

@1FiftyOverland 7 күн бұрын

Tommy, you dont have to be so dramatic FFS. Lol

@mistersecret88 7 күн бұрын

Scream like a little girl dude

@KZ-se4ik 6 күн бұрын

yeah, 13.6@114 is not exactly take your breath away acceleration...

@dub88acc 5 күн бұрын

@KZ-se4ik its the exhilaration of driving basically a mini corvette. He's driven a model 3 perf and has shown less enthusiasm. Goes to show you its not all about straight line speed. As he stated "its unhinged and raw "

@bm9074 7 күн бұрын

Nice!!!!!!!

@user-ib6fu3ux1q 7 күн бұрын

Way better than a Cobra kit car if you want something to actually drive in comfort. Having a/c is a must have. Those large v8s make a lot of heat that transfers into the drivers area. Fun and informative video.

@nathanbillingsley42 7 күн бұрын

You all act like this is the first Miata with an ls in it. Taylor ray and others have had them for drifting for years.

@racequad9 6 күн бұрын

$80,000 and you still need to provide the car?!?! So you're at over $100k when it's all said and done.... Damn! If you have some mechanic know-how, and browse the used market, you can build this yourself for under $45k. Under 100k mile 2015-2019 Miata's are going $13k-$19k in my area, so you can find one dirt cheap if it has issues and high miles. LS3 engine off a 5th gen Camaro under $5k or find a low mile mild built one for $10Kish. New T56 magnum for under $4k. Used rear end with fresh rebuild under $1,500. Engine mounts, ECU, brakes, axles, and other misc parts $5Kish, probably less. That's under $40k on the high end. Don't forget you can sell the stock parts you pull off your Miata.

@richfarfugnuven6308 6 күн бұрын

Throw the C7 ZO6 supercharger on this, insanity achieved...

@garysarratt1 7 күн бұрын

Your blue mustang is quicker than this gray one. No matter, Miata crushes that one, too.

@thebagnechannel3183 7 күн бұрын

Can a Fiat 124 Spider be converted? It’s basically an ND Miata.

@KZ-se4ik 6 күн бұрын

They said no. Different computer architecture and they don't have the electronics to make the GM computer work with stellantis stuff.

@jonsimmons945 7 күн бұрын

The Mustang with an Auto transmission eould have done far better.

@ALMX5DP 6 күн бұрын

Far less fun though.

@_Chev_Chelios 4 күн бұрын

Damn, the curly head guy really isn’t cut out for driving performance cars. Looks like s/he pooped from accelerating. Then rayban uses the word “fierce”… I held back an embarrassment barf.

@tilmonr 7 күн бұрын

Why didn't they use the automatic GT they used to compare the manual GT to?

@mistersecret88 7 күн бұрын

Cause makes too much sense

@kenjiwenji 7 күн бұрын

@@mistersecret88Exactly! They make some really dumb decisions on this channel. That blue GT ran a 13.89 at 109. It would've hung with that Miata.

@CP-ve6dl 7 күн бұрын

Now go put a turbo on that Miatas V8 and race again. NA vs Turbo is almost always going to be a loss for NA unless the power is through the roof. You're essentially just racing a light/small camaro against a Turbo 911.

@Rex_Racer 7 күн бұрын

The altitude favors a turbo.

@andrewpotito4114 3 күн бұрын

I want to do this to my Abarth 124

@gaivoron 7 күн бұрын

How tall his Tommy?

@mistersecret88 7 күн бұрын

Three foot five

@lowtunedg9211 5 күн бұрын

The 10 speed Auto smokes the 6 speed

@gage5650 7 күн бұрын

The v8 Miata is cool AF but I'd rather buy a used Porsche 991 or 992 for the same money and retain a decent resale value. What's the resale value of an LS swapped Miata in 5 -10 years? Probably not great.

@ALMX5DP 6 күн бұрын

I dont think you should buy for resale. Buy for smiles and enjoyment with a plan to keep it for as long as you can work a wheel and a clutch pedal.

@roguedogx 7 күн бұрын

Before watching- honestly I don't think so. Even with a V8, the MX-5 still has fundamentally less grip on launch, and the power to weight ratio isn't enough to make that up in the quarter mile.

@roguedogx 7 күн бұрын

18:30 okay so depending upon what gear and speed, I think this is where the Badger will take it. The manual gearbox will allow the MX-500 to get right to max power right away, the 911 will have to build boost and pick a gear. couple that with the Mx-5's top end advantage, and I would be the 911 will just steadily fall back as the speed climbs.

@roguedogx 7 күн бұрын

I am not doing good today.