Thanks for the support. We really appreciate it! We figure there are tons of vanilla car reviews on KZfaq so why not make it fun and informative.

@bryanchen23 Thanks for the comments but might we respectfully recommend Motorweek if you want hard numbers. There are soooooo many places you can get the exact numbers but only TFL if you want to see Nathan in the trunk of a 2012 Passat.

i love you guys reviews. what car do you guys drive?

That's a great observation. It could be the stop watch but to be honest we went back and tested some of the cars we reviewed with a stopwatch with the SoloDL GPS and the times were remarkably similar. 0-60 MPH is all about torque and the Passat TDI has plenty.

Good job on the Videoproduction !

I have an Altima 2.5s 2012 model n it does 0-60 mile just in 7.2 sec

I agree with you 100%. I have a 2008 Passat 2.0T Komfort and it's an awesome car. Mazda RX8, BMW 325, Lexus IS250, Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Avalon... I blew them away at standing red light to green light, of course with the Launch control and in Sport Mode. I saw the driver of the RX8 in my rear view mirror in disbelief got pissed of and he's driving a two door sports car.

Is there a 2012-2014 Passat that is not diesel or is diesel standard?

Alex, I'd like your opinion on which year of Jetta TDI in the 2011-2014 year group, is most reliable. I'm considering buying a used one. Also, what significant maintenance issues do you know of on the Jetta TDI? In general, German vehicles seem to be well engineered and reliable. My 2004 GTI VR6 is dependable, powerful, fun to drive and easy to maintain. The draw back is fuel consumption. I only fill it with 91 octane, as recommended by VW. Unfortunately, 91 is now 1 cent more expensive than diesel in my area and will likely continue to rise. I hate to sell the GTI but need a more economical car on the highway and the Jetta looks like it might be the right trade-in.

I've test-driven an Altima 2.5 and, believe me, there's no way one of these with CVT is going to get to 60 in 7.5 sec unless you're accelerating downhill. That 236 ft-lbs or torque coupled to the DSG transmission in the Passat may well be the difference here.

so what kind of mpg did you two get driving like that?

I always enjoy your videos and family of reviewers - I think other KZfaq channels should follow your lead and have multiple hosts. As far as comparing the Altima (gas) with the Passat (diesel); that's like comparing apples with oranges, These cars are in completely different classes. You should have compared the Passat TSI (gas) to the Altima. Then it would have been a better comparison. The Passat TDI is in a class of its own, maybe compare it to other diesels or possibly hybrids. I own a 2014 Passat TDI that I've owned since 2013 and I even chose to have VW modify the emissions to comply with the EPA. It's the best car I've ever owned and it's given me over 100K trouble free miles. I didn't buy the car for it's 0-60 times and I doubt that anyone looking into these cars will be focused on 0-60 or 1/4 miles times either. I bought my Passat for the gas mileage and the fact that it is not a slug like most hybrids. The Passat TDI is no rocket but the acceleration is more than adequate.

What about from 55-80 mph?

why dont u use ur stop watch like b4?

You should try to mount the IPhone accelerometer or use something like a GTech pro.

Just about every car we test @ 1 mile above sea level.

Guys ignore all the "you should do reviews like" talk. When I want that I watch that. Do your thing. It's entertaining and informative in it's own way. Glad you aren't sheep. For what it's worth (which is, cough, nothing) I have the tdi and 9ish to 60 sounds right. Something is wrong with that Altima time however. Keep up the good work!

Bruh that's not even fair, at least get the 3.5 altima

Good job guys, my opinion of the Passat has been further improved! Ass+Accelerometer= Asselerometer =]

Passat. .. has way better quality ... Nissan alway looked cheap

You have inadvertently proven the benefit of diesels at high altitude.The gasser, lost power at altitude while the diesel performed about the same. I wish we could get the Toureg's 8 speed gearbox with the 3.0L V6 Diesel engine (240 hp, 406 lbs/ft torque) in the Passat.

Why do you guys always do a 0-60 mph test? Its stupid to do this type of testing. But I do like your videos.

Roman - " Your ass is wrong Nathan" Couldn't stop laughing!

I think there may be something wrong with the 0-60 app when you guys tested the passat as well, coz mile above sea level, with two big guys, and 9 second? that's like V6 mustang territory....

Those CVT's are just insane. It's like am driving my old dodge ram when it had it busted synchro and it wouldn't shift in 2 but would then hit 3rd gear. I hate everything named CVT

Love the funky review style but u guys def need a vbox!!

I love this gen Altima. The new one is....so 'rental'.

i have altima2011 2.5 it's walk 200k and more an idont have any problems in the car its process and comfortable

why the cars were to slow?

You can make great power (360-380ft-lbs) and get 55mpg out of a Passat with a tune and turbo. Even with stock emission equipment in place. 800 miles to a tank too

comment about comments on reviews about other reviews. what i like about these guys is that Roman is just like Mark from Classic Game Room, they could easily be twins! that bugatti joke was hilarious! i like the altima, but that passat, that was interesting.

You could always make your own videos the way you want them.

YOU DID NOT FLOOR THE ALTIMA. It has a button at the end of the gas pedal... Mine gets to 60 in about 7.5 sec. and that is very well know fact that an Alimas is wayyy faster than a Passat tdi, idk how the FUCK u get 13 sec and 9 sec with similar testing condition. I really do not think that this video is HONEST

The Subaru Legacy with the CVT would be interesting to see up against the Altima.

I have a Touareg 2, it's amazing

Nissan the best

There using a basic Altima they should use the fll option one

My 04 2.5 Altima does 8seconds flat 0-60

I have a 2012 Altima 2.5s my 0-60 on sports mode is 5.6 sec cause I floor mine.

Little known fact is that the Nissan's CVT (and most other CVTs) now limits their torque to 80% until 40 MPH.

3:18 vehicle ahead looks suspicious looking LOL 50?

Wow.. 0-60 in 13.6 makes the Passat seem fast by comparison. Wouldn't buy either. Nice job guys

turbo,supercharged, or n/a are all affected by altitude because the air has less oxygen in it. no matter what way you decide to bring it into the combustion chamber, it still will not be as dense.... now I am sure if you turned up the boost psi by 17% it would make up for it since there is 17% less oxygen at 1 mile above sea level

you guys should do 0-40. Most people don't go from a stop to highway speed. They go from a stop to city speed, which is 30-40.

I like the foldable seat with access to the trunk in the volkswagens...my friend has a 2000 vr6 and the only way we got my bike in there was to take off the front wheel and cram it through that hole..otherwise i would have been pedaling 20 miles ;)

I have 2.5 Altima Coupe 2012 model n it does 0-60 at 7.2 sec

Oh, and I'm POSITIVE you can get more than 800 miles on a tank. My VW CC with the gasoline 2.0T managed to get all the way up to 630 miles on 1 tank. Yea, that was near 38mpg in a fast, comfortable and great looking car. Love VW.

Veedub FTW! Motor trend car of the year!

To get the Altima to go off the line you truly have to quickly punch it to get the wheels to spin a tad, in lane changes you have to hold the revs at around 3k rpms for about 2 seconds thebPUNCH and trust me that’s how you drive the Altima :P

Just about every car you guys test seems slower than what all the major reviewers are getting. I clocked my moms 07 2.5 at 7.7 0 to 60. And yes they were real world conditions.

And the VR6 got 280 Hp and 258 lb-ft of torque while the 2008 Passat 2.0T = 200Hp and 207 ft-lb of torque at 1500 rpm. 1/4 mile at 14.8 sec.

all i can say is Honda 2 to 1... 04 accord ex...345 k miles, still runs like new.. last highway trip 34.6 with the cruise and air on going on 72...

We test cars at a mile above sea level so all out times are slower...but hey we know that's an easy fact to ignore when you are too busy calling us names and SCREAMING at us online.

use the stop watch for the passat too

I just traded my 09 2.5 s for the 2013 3.5sl, in my old 2.5, i beat a v6 charger and did 0-60 a lot quicker than 13 seconds probably around the 8 seconds mark.. if those figures are true, there must be something wrong with the altima used in this video

38 sounds better and yes the EPA sometime under rates cars...I just think that a CVT isnt a good transmission. Its loud under acceleration and it feels quite weird to drive one since it wont shift unless you let off the throttle. I rented a Sentra and did not like that CVT. I think Americans should embrace diesel! It has tons of potential!

even with those inaccurate measurements the nissan was just terrible again very nice video keep up the good work

Don't forget the Passat is a turbodiesel engine. Gasoline engines operate at a very specific ratio of fuel and air. At high altitudes,there are fewer molecules of air per cubic foot. gasoline engines have to add less fuel to keep the ratio perfect, which affects performance. Diesel engines run lean so they don't experience same power loss at lower oxygen concentrations.

"what does your ass-accelerometer tell you, nathan?" "my ass tells me..." LOL u guys are hilarious...at times.

Can't find the article you're referring to but I did find this, from the new Motor Trend article about the 2013 Altima 2.5: "...as-tested four-cylinder acceleration is a full second quicker from 0-60 mph: 7.4 for 2013 versus 8.4 seconds for the earlier comparison car." I can believe 8.4 for the 2010 because the Altima was noticeably slower off-the-line than the 190hp Accord EX-L I ended up buying. That being said, it's obvious there's something wrong with the review's numbers...

In America, they get Mexican made engines. Here in Europe the TDI's are built in Frankfurt and the petrols in Hamburg

Nice

The FASTEST MIDSIZE SEDAN UNDER $30,000 is a 2012 Passat VR6. 0-60 in 5.7 seconds and 1/4 mile in 14.2 seconds.

I’ve got 7.5 in my 2.5 in Texas at sea level

Check your area for diesel prices as the Passat would be the best of those (I'm assuming an Accord). Altima is more in the Civic/Jetta class. So the Passat is going to give you a more premium feel. Go out and drive them as they're all good, but have different driving characteristics.

@bryanchen23 The iPhone app is usually within a whisker of my old G-Tech Pro. Honestly. Besides, with our approximation of feel and hatred of taciturn, by-the-book reviews, we opted to forego technical overload. We're not about the nitpicking bullocks.

Passat is best, best luxury for price even Mercedes would compare the C class to this

Wow, you guys living high in the sky really have to punch the thing to get it going...I do know that turbos seem to do better at high altitiudes than nomally aspirated engines. And dont let folks give you bad time over your 0-60 times, let them try it and lets just see how well they do! Keep up the fun!

Actually It Is ! Motortrend Got 7.7 Sec To 0-60.

The Passat TDI's real competition? Ford Fusion Hybrid, Toyota Camry Hybrid, and Nissan Altima Hybrid (if available).

u can tell who's gonna win cause it seems like roman is always driving the car that wins

No I'm Talking About The Altima 2.5 !

If you're buying a passat or an altima, why would you care how fast it goes from 0-60? Neither of them are cars built to muscle their way around the road. They are economy cars, built for normal consumers who want to use them every day and feel comfortable that they can rely on their car to get to where they need to go. They are not built to drive like a porche or a mustang.

Nice car

Yea . I Never Knew Nissan Could Pull A 15.7@89mph 1/4 Out Of A 2.5 Altima , And Still Has A CVT . My Mom Has A 2008 Altima It Does 0-60 7.4 . But After 90mph It's Slow . Oh The 2010 And 2011 Altima 2.5 's Had Longer Gear Ratios That's Why It Was Slower. The Accord Is A Nice Car, Reliable , Quick , Everything You Can Get In A Honda That You Would In A Acura .

I will say my 2011 2.5 SL Altima will go 0-60 around 6-7 seconds and its fixing to hit 200k miles!

The TDI volkswagon engine has a load of power. only 140hp but you have to understand it's a diesel. All of it's torque is available at VERY low rpms. I'm talking at just 1600rpms you will have more than 200ft pounds of torque. Where as in a gasoline engine you have to rev it up into the low-mid 5k rpms at the very least to get some torque. And even then it's not as much as the diesel. And to top it off, VW is upgrading this engine to 177hp this year. The torque figures I don't remember though.

It was used at high altitude.

I have altima coupe 2012 2.5s and it does 0-60mile in 7.2 sec easily

I'd rather have the bike in the beginning of the video then either of these 2 cars LOL!

I, too, compared the Altima to the Accord. Don't know how you can say the Altima was nicer - the Accord was by far a better-built car.

I have a '11 Altima Hybrid and I've beat many 4 cylinder cars including a Toyota Camry Hybrid off the line, I think its 7.3 Seconds for the Hybrid. So that Altima must be messed up to only do it in 13 seconds......And the regular gas Altimas have a fair amount of off the line juice due to the CVT transmission not having to find a gear, so the engine Revs higher......

There is nothing wrong with the Altima except that it's a gas engine at high altitude.Diesels run lean anyway, so low oxygen high altitude is no problem. Gas engines need a constant fuel to air ratio, so the altima has to reduce the amount of fuel injected to compensate for low oxygen levels, hence losing power and the almost doubling of 0-60 time. Add hills, and the higher torque of the passat allows it to maintain speed more easily than the altima

Remember kids: Don't try this at home and expect much better times at sea level.

And another thing, why is it amusing that the Passat sells less than an 11 grand car? The Passat is premium value while the Versa is a subcompact that honestly is quite cheap. I am not trying to bash Nissan by no means I think they are great cars for people who arent a whole lot interested in driving ecstasy except for the GTR. My GTI has that unexplanable hilarity and fun that comes once every couple years. Thats what makes a car for me, the Passat isnt that but my 2012 GTI...is

That altimas interior is rental car cheap. I rented it for one week and didnt like it. The thing that drove me crazy was the CVT. I dont know what a Passat is like but knowing Volkswagen's interior Im guessing its very nice and a bit above average than the class. Not crazy about the Altima IMO

The Passat is turbocharged, so the altitude doesn't effect power.

in europe a 3.0 TDI quattro A6 goes from 0-100 km/s in 7 sec ,and yes a 2.0 tdi in 9 sec !

Looks like you forgot to put the altima in sport mode🤔, but......🐸☕

48mpg? Are you sure? Thats a bit high and I know the Passat can get over 50 since my uncle got 52mpg with his passat sel tdi dsg going from Washington to penticton BC Canada. The Nissan might be lower maintenance but you have to admit, it wont last as long as a diesel. Doesnt matter what brand you buy from, Ram, Ford, Chevrolet, Mercedes, Audi, anything, a traditional diesel will outlast a gas engine. My dad is a mechanic and hates VW's but admits they will outlast a Japanese gas car

Who would choose the crappy Altima? I test drove one and it felt like an econo box made in India by 4 year old pakistan girls. Everything felt so cheap. I also did a Honda Accord and Toyota Camry and they felt better but not as good as the Passat. And that Altima was the top of the line V6 and the Passat was a 2.5S, and the Passat felt like a luxury car

The Passat and the A4 look 1000 times better than the Altima in any year even the Maxima Tdi still better than Ifinity that Q bull is about the best thing Nissian really got going

Yikes.... way off with that Altima 0-60, I get my 07 from 0-60mph in apprx 8 secs with the 2.5 and CVT. Also keep in mind, there's two of you in the car, so that adds a lot of weight to the vehicle (not saying you're fat).

I just got a 2012 altima and it is way faster than 13 sec. It will be even faster when im done with it

The way the Altima sounds it seems like it only has one gear. Passat is much better.

thats funny because i have owned a TDI and a corolla, and my VW was just as reliable as my corolla was

wtf!!. my 07 mazda6 2.3L, 100k km, AT, does it in 8 seconds!!

any car maker can build a vehicle made solely for raw power. But when it comes to reliabilty, durability, AND power combined, German imports are not quite there yet and never was. BMW and Benz is famous for it's history and name. It's for people who want to be respected rather then drive something practical. The luxury features you see in luxury German imports have been matched or surpassed by other non-german car makers. Superior engineering over desperate attempt to be recognized anyday.

EVERYONE PLEASE IF U HAVE AN ALTIMA LIKE I DO OR A VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT PLEASE PEOPLE DOUGHNUT FIGHT CUZE THERE BOTH AWESOME CARS YET OK

He wasnt flooring the altima