good point!

Put it on the hood 😂

Or behind the drivers seat if you need the load area free.

Baloney. Firstly, if that was their intention, they could have fitted the tank. But more importantly, there are other places to put the tank, which is why you can buy them for every other truck with under mounted spare

Yeah defo mate extra fuel and water underneath wheels up top ‘this is the way’

Where is the timing chain? If it is in the back of the engine, it blows!!

@@xpusostomos Even if it wasn't that is still a great place for a tank. Watch the Australian overland guys and they will surely put either a fuel or water tank there.

​@@LarryNgetich Brown Davis will make one soon I'm sure

It seems more like a safari truck than a rock crawler. Modern Land Rover.

​@@jeffk464 the Gladiator Mojave in a desert runner that can rock crawl.

The big issue on at least UK right hand drive versions is where to put your left foot. There's a raised narrow platform due to drive line so foot always at uncomfortable angle.

Saw one displayed at a 4x4 Exhibition ijn Sydney Australia. Do not how many are going to react to this " antique" 4x4

Gladiator is Light Years infront

You may have to wait because it will probably take the dealership 2-3 years to just sell one at that price and then your additional 2-3 years that you need

First of all you've got to consider the markups, and the exclusivity of this will make the cost much higher than it already is. You also have to consider the fact that internal combustion engine vehicles are all going to become considerably more expensive as they become collectors items. If you can't afford one now, you're prob never going to. Right now is a good time to invest money in cars and long-term storage for your grandkids benefit. I'm sure you'll think I'm crazy like everyone else does, but in 40 years or so, someone's going to pay a million dollars for a hot hatch.

They need a 2.0L base option, 276hp is nothing to sneeze at. Plus the cost savings.

@@RadDadisRadthe truck weighs in over 6,000 lbs, 276hp would have the same power to weight ratio as a Prius

@@Warex06 i guess you didn’t see that the current b58 is tuned slightly more at 282hp

All part of the master plan to take Andre to Truck King.

💯👍

Same. They’re my two fav car channels so it’s just awesome seeing them working together.

You can have that on KZfaq because shows aren't managed by competing media empires.

If you are so back country you need 2 tyres, you probably needed all that space for other kit. You'd want one tyre underneath and another on an external carrier. For regular people, either of those options is better than this disaster.

That design is really cool! Very airplane If that makes it to production hopefully the attention to detail stays and those panels don't turn into molded plastic junk.

Reminds me of a H53 helicopter. Even the overhead split windows with the control panel in between them. It does looks pure aviation, love it.

Ah, that makes sense. I also noticed that it had a support strut, meaning that it likely would not close on you if parked while tilted. That was a complaint they made in the video. I do think that few will be towing with these int eh US, so this isn't much of a concern here. These are going to be mall crawlers, sadly. With some exceptions.

interesting - you'd think these dudes might ask these questions before doing the review - so they aren't stumped by all the design considerations

My Wrangler has that issue. And the tailgate has to be all the way open to open the rear glass. I can't even let the dog in and out.

That’s typical to market these things to suburban “adventurers” rather than people that actually use the truck for work.

​@@erroneous6947suburban adventurers will easily exceed these numbers. Heck, 4 big men will weigh 500kg, add a bullbar, water tank, long range fuel and you're done

that guy's an idiot. destroying cars for fun. so stupid and wasteful

I'll message him now . He could buy two just in case one goes up in flames or falls through a roof .

@@mikeraphone6745 Yes true I was in the Army and the Diesel heater can be stifle'in, but it's still a welcome feeling when trying to get out of bed in the morning in general the wood heat is the best.

I’ve owned from 1 ton to a Ranger and I bought an expedition and find that I don’t miss a truck since I have trailers.

Given where it’s from I’m guessing around $82k

What if you needed the bed space, but it doesn't fit in your garage up there?

The rest of us prefer overlanding and a Jeep is not suitable for such.

@@weetbix2083 gotcha. Can I hear your feedback on why the Jeep, 4Runner and Bronco with a greater aftermarket, better features, better price and better capabilities out of the box arnt as good for overlanding? Not being corny, legit wanna hear feedback from the opposing argument.

@@weetbix2083 how is a gladiator or rubicon not suitable for overlanding?

Price is too much for what it is.

Welcome to being an ICE enthusiast in the future, when EVs take over the world but not completely ban ICE. I genuinely think ICE will be reserved for the rich in the future.

Way more money than what we all thought it was going to be originally. The "First Look" videos had this thing closer to $60k.

I think there will be plenty of wealthyish buyers who will buy it because they want something different. Its definitely got the cool factor.

@@faheemabbas3965 Kind of absurd to think that only elitists will purchase ICE vehicles since they're the only group buying EVs at the moment. Anyone needing a purposeful vehicle would never consider an EV.

Yes, while I thoroughly waxed my 2014 Ranger’s chassis from new, I forgot the steel spare wheel. When I needed it for a puncture five years later I was shocked at how crusty the wheel was. Since this is a work truck that is driven only locally, the spare, now repaired, lives in my shed.

Another reason for not putting it under the bed is one well known to Discovery3, Discovery 4 and L320 Range Rover Sport owners………….. you don’t easily notice when the spare has been stolen which was a very common problem until an owner developed a special anti theft plate to protect the spare wheel winch and the wheel. Hanging the spare on the tailgate door might be unsightly and impractical on the school run but at least you can see instantly when it has disappeared in the night!

my truck is 35 years old spare tire holder carrier works like new tire /rim dont have any rust anywere

Cuts ground clearance too, and in SUVs still intrudes into the floor anyway.

@@ferp420 California? No problems on the 1988 truck one of my friends has in CA. No significant rust anywhere.

So is the BMW engine.

I think that’s because of economic reasons. I believe buyers want these type of vehicles but are hampered by hyperinflation / rising interest rates. 84 month low interest financing or leasing might be a way to get these into American driveways.

It only makes sense in that case, in every other way it's batshit crazy. Which is why nobody does it.

If you are bogged down in sand or mud you do NOT want to pull off a wheel even if you have a flat.

@@bindingcurve huh ? Can u read dude ? I said should i get stuck in sand etc I would take OFF the SPARE wheel bury in the sand up ahead of me an winch myself out to the spare wheel ....I don't know what you are on about.

@@troothhertz6297 huh, can't use full words? You want to lose a big chunk of your bed for a sand anchor. 🙄

@@bindingcurve ?

Agreed great presentation from a knowledgeable duo

California and Colorado not that far apart? Not if your flying an airplane, but if your going by ground driving your car, your definitely going to spend some time behind the wheel! It’s 3 or 4 big states away. From Los Angles to Denver is 1016 miles (1635 Km) and from San Francisco to Denver is 1252 miles (2015 Km).

@@americanrambler4972 Its like 650 miles Sacramento to Salt Lake, maybe 450 miles from Salt Lake to Denver. Two day driving trip for sure, can be sketchy in the winter.

Will it be as reliable as Toyota? If so, I will buy one (quartermaster).

@@OGtruthserum as reliable as bmw's most popular engine.

Yes, great engine but ....

As a European I don‘t understand the critisim in the US of BMW engines. In Europe the straight six BMW is considered the best engine ever built.

@peterhaerberlin7479 I really appreciate your perspective, I am not as familiar with this engine. I assume it was selected for its great qualities. In Canada BMW does not have a reputation as being the most reliable and repairs are very expensive. That combination may lead to some not to select the Ineos.

​@@peterhaeberlin7479 Based on modern BMW engine internals, it's almost like they are engineered to fail after the warranty period. BMWs depreciate worse than most other vehicles in the US because they're unreliable, parts are ridiculously overpriced and engineered to not be easily repaired.

@@xjinit That is interesting. In Switzerland BMWs are more expensive than in the US. But they have a market share of 8,1%. They have a top rank in respect of depreciation. They are better than Toyota, which I consider a very reliable brand. One reason may be that, east/south Europeans love them.

go back through the comment sections - there's one clown who won't shut up about it. he's personally offended about the decision apparently. something about his wife and blah blah

That's a terrible place for it. For one thing, many people have garages with limited clearance. For another thing, ask your wife to get a 40kg wheel off the roof, then put the other one back up there, and tell me how popular you are afterwards. For that matter you try getting a 40kg wheel up there.

@@xpusostomos More people don’t have garage or don’t have a height restriction. Ask your wife to jack up the truck, find the locking wheel nut key, the spare wheel jack key, wind the wheel down and slide it out from underneath a conventional pickup and remove tight lug nuts and swap wheels and stow the flat and you have some superwoman right there. Even lifting the flat up onto the loadbed deck requires a lot of muscle power. It’s all basically a two man job.

@@xpusostomos wow, someone's a negative nancy. maybe people have other preferences or do things differently than you.

@@hedydd2 If you can afford that truck, you likely have a garage.

@@bindingcurve Really? I have a small fleet of vehicles and at one time, at the same time, owned a Land Cruiser 80, Isuzu Trooper LWB, Range Rover and a Land Rover 110 while my mother ran one of three Nissan Terrano I bought the same day. No garage. Do have sheds, but they are full of more valuable longer term industrial equipment, at least during Winter. Rural people who drive these things daily in all condition generally don’t park them in a garage. High crime areas, maybe more so.

You forgot the synthetic blinker fluid as a dealer additional option.

This specific BMW engine is unusually bulletproof and is a massive exception, so much so that Toyota uses a variant of it in certain vehicles.

​@@jimmycricket5366this! The engine is used in the Toyota Supra. The transmission is ZF, not BMW. I'm not sure what OP is talking about.

Except that the space between the spare tyre and the small door is so narrow that only a stick-insect could reach the posts without opening the big door. Also unless you get the cargo van version, the floor is not flat to the front when the seats are folded. There is a massive step up to the folded seat back and the front three feet. Farmers mostly buy pickups but British farmers will not buy the Quartermaster because it doesn’t qualify as a commercial vehicle for VAT and income tax write-offs due to its under 1 ton payload. It is no coincidence that all 4wd pickups of the Ford Ranger type available in Europe have a 1000kg+ payload capacity. The Ineos machine does not, due to its heavy unladen weight which limits its legally allowed payload to under the difference between its tare [2900kgs] and the 3500kg limit for this class of vehicle in Europe. So realistically with four people aboard, barely half a ton in the loadbed. In some other world markets this is not an issue but in the UK and many European markets it certainly is for business users.

Oliver are you serious? Fence posts? Geesh.

@@itsruf1 fence posts, 2x4s, rebar, yard tools, lots of things are shaped like that. do you do anything outside?

Same Here

What a JCB ?

Like our gov would certify a diesel without $8k of electronics and piping on it.

@@TheJoncic it’s weird that the land of monster trucks has less Diesels on the road than Europe.

seriously - i wonder how much money they've burned through to get to this point. and the idea of starting an ICE, niche vehicle company NOW of all times, is truly a mind boggling proposition

A utilitarian pickup with a premium luxury vehicle price tag, I don't think it will do well.

It is a pitifully small payload for a working vehicle. Isn’t it so low that it won’t actually qualify for VAT relief as a business? If it doesn’t qualify for relief then I can’t see it selling well as it will have a hefty tax penalty as such an expensive car in a high emissions bracket.

@@J00LZ49 I presume they did that so that they could sell it in the US without the chicken tax whatever that is

@@J00LZ49 You are correct. It does not qualify in the UK for VAT repayment or probably for full business tax relief. It is already dead in the water for the vast commercial vehicle sector, farmers, utility companies, engineers, traders, and so on that are VAT registered. A Ford Ranger Wildtrak is about £30,000 cheaper as a result and that, in isolation, is not a cheap pickup.

@@hedydd2 yeah that is what I thought, and there are very few private purchasers of pickups in the UK, almost everyone that has one has it a business purchase for the massive VAT advantages compared to a car. Like you said no one will be looking at this as a business and think it is worth £30-40k more than a ranger or Hilux.

And the new GX/Land cruiser coming

@@BsurfChillin exactly.

Weren’t Magna involved?

@@LEON.1717 Magna-Steyr were contracted to do the design and engineering development. They actually manufacture various vehicles for Mercedes [G-Class], Jaguar [the electric car] and several others including the BMW Z4/Toyota Supra twins. At one time they assembled the M-Class and maybe even the Fiat Panda 4x4.

They probably used the same exhaust system from the shorter wheelbase SUV.

It could be relocated to a roof rack is an issue in the bed.

Yet everybody else puts it there and survives.

You need to use a jack to change a tire anyway

Uhh no, starts at 80k and lockers are still an additional option. Rubicon gladiator is far superior and will save you $15-20k.

​@@xjinitDon't forget the BMW engine

Some have critisised the door but i find it really handy when towing as access to the rear is very handy

No need to get under the gladiator. It has a crane so you stand behind the bumper and crank it down with a long tool. Really nice system. Money no object I would love this Grenadier but really loving my Mojave.