the prices goes up exponentially.

agree 💯

@@SkaBob there’s only one issue with EVs…. *RANGE*

@@bigchungus1848 range and basically no used market for cheap entry. That said I'd love to have one!

@@SkaBob could you please tell me where I can fill my tank for 80 dollars please ??

Plus an extra 2200lbs of towing capacity.

also will buy you a 2nd gas vehicle

and the ability to hook up to your house as a whole home generator

@@B86432 *petrol

The Platinum gasoline version msrp is $62,000 and has well over a 500 mile range...

I like that even the top of the line matches close to what the rivian costs which is a smaller truck instead of exceeding the $100k. I think this will be a great option

I drove in the pro and was extremely impressed with finishes inside.

The "base" truck is still $54,000.

@@tewest86 The base truck is $39,974, in the USA.

@@Ichibuns The “base” truck as shown in this video is $54,000.

Ford is going to lose the tax incentive very soon because they have almost produced 200k electric vehicles.

This is true, I have the exact same configuration as you, do you have a production date?

This build would be the most popular setup by far if ford made enough of them, of course they want to sell more Lariats because they are more expensive and make more money on them so they tell all the reviewers that they expect lariat to sell the most, that's because they will make more them of them over the Pro.

@@bostondan77 Exactly. I’d buy the Pro, but will pass on an $80k EV truck with zero resale value.

Yeah no way i want an 80k any vehicle. But my 2.7l 150 was about 50k all said and done. Would happily pay that for the ev. Mine is a base stx with tow pack. Diff lock. Onboard power etc. Dont need the frills just the right options

The cost of the battery is where a lot of that price jump happens. The Pro battery casing would cost around 20k alone and the extended range battery is effectively double that cost.

Probably a business thing. Have a base config you advertise as a "cheap" $39k truck and snag all the attention. All of the coverage thus far has been of the Lariat models provided by Ford so it raises expectations. The batteries are also in short supply so each Pro sale is a missed opportunity to put it into a more profitable trim. As a result the price is hiked up more. Essentially Pro is a great deal subsidized by the luxe trims.

They're all all AWD

The battery range is a huge thing though. In work, time is money and the less time charging the more time earning. Aside from that, trucks are just as much "family" vehicles are they are work vehicles now. So those extra comfort features will appeal to a segment that will never ever tow anything

@@courtenayblair2279 in operations, you would choose the time saving option absolutely. Often with a larger battery, you get more range, but because of the extra weight it also takes longer to charge to get that potential extra 100 mi of range. If your company has routes that don't exceed 120 miles one way between charging stops, then the shorter range battery will suffice and take less time to charge.

Yeah I personally would like to have the leather, stitching, seats and sound system from the more expensive ones in the pro, but it looks much better without the overstyled LED crap, plastic design garbage and massive Tablet glued to the center console, as if it was an afterthought.

The screen on the pro is like a big iPad. 10 or 12 inches. It’s quite nice.

agreed

I’d take the pro just for the manual tailgate. Opens and closes faster then the electric tailgate.

@@jaredhodges9375 Electric tailgates can be closed manually...

Yes and with real radio and heater controls. The big tablet in the center of the dash is not a good way to do it.

Ive heard the giant tablet is actually done really well but I do agree. The screen integrates into the dash better and I like having button controlled AC. Id prefer the pro version.

Let’s be honest lol you love the bigger screen just not the 90grand price

What will be the dealer mark up?

@@arthercasillas2755 mine is $0

Can you give us a review when you get yours?

And I will buy a fully loaded F150 Lightning Platinum with Lariat wheels.

Tactile knobs and buttons are better than touchscreens all day every day.

@@plmn93 And Touchscreens are the best all year long.

Pro with leather seats and carpet would be perfect.

Right there with you on the screen size. Big screens are just visually pleasing. People don’t realize they don’t use them for anything

and?

Exactly that is why it should have a column shifter because then you could eat and drive, but I guess it still works if you eat and wait 45 minutes to charge the thing.

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@@masonkaye5 I think having a motorized shifter just to get it out of the way of the table is needless complexity when a column or dash mounted knob shifter would suffice.

@@BikerJim74 Ford's marketing it as a "work" feature which I find funny.

That Pro was a fleet version with the extended range battery 🔋. Adding $10k.

There is no "market adjusted value" on the MSRP/sheet shown in the video. That particular Pro had the extended battery; not the standard battery. The extended battery alone adds $10,000 on top of the Pro base price. The other $7,000 worth of options included the Equipment Group 110A (LED lights with dynamic bending, co-pilot 360, SYNC 4 with 12" screen, power front trunk with power outlets, aluminum wheels, AT tires, etc.), Tow technology package (onboard scales, 360 cameras, backup assist, trailer brake controller, etc.), Pro power onboard, max tow package (additional cooling hardware for battery and motors), and bedliner. All those, or their equivalent, add up to about $7,000 on the ICE F150, too. So in this case, getting what you pay for on the upgrades over the base Pro.

@@MrChadx1 The Pro with the extended range battery is only available for fleet orders.

@@Bigboyz-li7fo Yes, that is correct. But the original poster was talking about price, so I detailed the makeup of the shown msrp and why the price was $17,000 more than the base pro price. I suspect consumers (non-fleet orders) will also be able to spec a pro with extended battery at some point.

@@MrChadx1 That's clearly speculation at this point.

Exactly. The Pro model MSRP is almost at production costs whereas the upper trims are able to float future development just like every other product line. The battery is the high cost point for both either way.

Thats one of the reasons i wait for the Cybertruck.

I think Ford wants to try and sell them Online to avoid this. See if it actually happens though.

@@ALRyourmom Outside of the US? May be. Inside? Never.

@@ALRyourmom The CEO also announced that they're gonna withhold allocations to dealers who're doing insane markups

The dealers have gotten a letter from Ford stating that if they sell vehicles with an adder over MSRP that will affect their ability to order more of the model in the future.

Agreed. Best bang for the buck. Wish they offered the extended on the 2022 Pro. Would have been a great deal to get that before the tax credits ran out.

@@MrChadx1 "Best bang for the buck" would be the issue. That's just another way of saying Ford wouldn't make as much money as they could've.

@@MrChadx1 ?? He's literally sitting in a 2022 Extended Range Pro.

@@spazzman90 the Pro extended range are limited to fleet vehicles only currently.

@@spazzman90 Like others have mentioned, Ford only offered the extended range battery in the Pro for fleet sales; not consumers. Original poster and I are hoping the extended battery will be offered to consumers in the Pro for 2023. Also hoping for double cab/standard 6.5' bed at some point. Or even a standard cab and long 8' bed. Too many pickups/trims are limited to crew cabs with tiny short beds. I need bed space, not passenger space, for what I use my pickups for.

it was too much money to make the center dash top fold out in the "cheap" $40K model 🤣👌

How ironic.

Ohhhh! That's great information.

Guess I'm sticking with ICE

The Pro is too plain. I drive a 2021 XLT now. The Pro would be a downgrade even though its $54,000.

@@tewest86 i drive a 1996 XL with standard transmission. Power steering and boosted brakes are the only luxuries i want.

@@JD-yx7be It's all a truck really needs.

Replace the light bar with what ?

@@jj-eo7bj just a different cover, something that doesn't look so cheap

@@jamainemclawery7277 ya, I'm sure you will be able to go down to the local Pep Boys and find something to fit.

This isn't a new concept, parts get replaced all the time. Sometimes people even use that new internet thing to help find stuff.

Way easier to hit physical buttons while driving. I'm a massive tech nerd but I hate those giant screens

@@tarfeef101 yup, but sadly since Tesla started it, everyone else is copying it. I miss my buttons.

@@tarfeef101 Same thing people said when apple created buttonless on screen keyboards... Yet I can still text without looking at iphone.

Yeah, but I want to watch a movie while I'm driving...

Same. I don't care for 4 door trucks. Would love to see a 2 door version available!

Probably for battery placement

ford was showing states a few days ago, half the orders are from people that have never owned a truck before and are only getting it because its electric so they are brining in new customers to their brand its a big W

A lot of black plastic up front. But guess what? You can buy the trim piece from the fancier truck and replace it.

@@jm100368 that is what I was thinking. If that is a big difference fir looks then just buy that trim piece for a couple of hundred or so. I bet not many will keep the stock rims and tires anyway either so no difference there either. I would prefer the pro with the bigger battery as the only upgrade if possible.

I checked the web page for the F150 Lightning. The extended range battery is a $20000 option! If it was, like, $5000 more, it might be worth it.

@@JL-sm6cg Yeah, It's technically a 10k option, but it requires a $9500 equipment group package. That combined with the $13k XLT upcharge make the cheapest extended range truck $74k (the extended range Pro model us only available to fleet customers). When Ford first announced the starting price of $40k, I think most people thought we would be able to get an extended range Lightning in the low-mid $50k range. In reality, the cheapest extended range starts around $12k higher than a gas F150 Platinum.

@@zkiller195 yeah, it was more like $76K for an extended range XLT! Only $56K for the regular range.

This is the difference between a work truck and a luxury truck. Yes, I said Luxury truck. There's no Lariat being purchased brand spanking new to be used for a contract powerwasher company pulling a 13,500lb trailer 🤣.

Congratulations! Nice choice.

Ppl wanted a physical volume button which is why it’s like that. To be seen how it holds up in the real world. If it works good it’s obviously a W design

@@josephs8364 Go look at the ram 12" screen, it doesn't need to look like that to have a physical volume knob.

@@diablo81588 Ik lol. But they can’t copy ram

The Pro is available with the optional 9.6kWh pro-power assist system, which is what is advertised for the home charging system. Side note: the F150 Hybrid has a 7.2kWh system, which is actually the same as the Lightnings. The extra 2.4kWh output is from the frunk outlets, which is standard on all Lightnings.

I like the pros screen a lot better

Yup. Pro with standard battery, 9.6kW is $41k before incentive. All the truck I need.

Yeah, I'd really like to have a long bed. Chevy has somewhat of a solution in that the forward wall (behind the rear seats) folds down.

I found it very ironic that the "pro" work truck (the one they sell to fleets) didnt come standard with the work station/desktop console. A massive oversight imo.

Or even an double cab with 6.5' bed. I know crewcabs and tiny beds sell the most, but many of the manufacturer's trims that I want are just not offered in doublecab and standard bed much less standard cab and long bed; only crew cab and supershort bed.

For a whole $15 buy any steering wheel wrapper you want.

@@crhu319 I think that makes a vehicle feel cheap.

They do offer the extended range in the Pro, that truck in the video was an extended range Pro, why it was $56k not $41k

Like all ford there will be tonnes of aftermarket kits for whatever

Maybe, but the Sync4a UI is easier to navigate for Power-My-Trip on the larger screen.

@@JonDecker I find that the nav screen in my 2018 Lariat works fantastically.

@@JohnnyUmphress I think you're on Sync3, right?

@@JonDecker Oh, yeah. You're right.

@@JohnnyUmphress The Lightning has the Sync 4a system and the UI is more-or-less designed exclusively to take advantage of vertical scrolling. It will work on the smaller screen, but you will have to touch the small screen a lot more to get the same quick-glance info while planning a trip with an EV using the Blue Oval Network feature called "Power-My-Trip". That's the feature that calculates your truck's range and charge times at time-prioritized stations along your route. It's a game changer for driving long routes with an EV. Most of the Pro trims with the smaller screens are being bought by local fleets and meant for localized travel routes rather than complex cross country tours.

580HP and 775lbft how much more powerful do you want it to be

@@kylinblue We want a 1000hp electric race truck because we are used to being able to modify vehicles and if I can't the thing better be damn fast from the factory.

@@kylinblue all the power.

@@masonkaye5 check out unplugged performance. It is for Tesla but I think they will eventually give lightning the same treatment.

@@yaboykris2118 you would want Tesla in that case.

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I did the calculations on my 14 F150 5.0. Given current gas prices, if i could get a Pro for $35k (after 7500 tax incentive) my payoff would be 3.5 years given current gas prices and if i could get around $18K on my clean truck.

@@sppeders1 nice.. that definitely sounds do-able!

I mean there is no guarantee gas wont go up. Especially given that most states are passing laws to mandate new vehicles being electric. You can make your own electricity pretty easily, but gas is another story.

Hmm, I recall a few deeply researched videos in the past several years (including one by TFL buddy Engineering Explained) that analyzes the whole footprint issue of ICE vehicles vs. EVs, not just the making of the vehicle but the generation/production of the fuel, the sourcing of all materials, the pollution over the years and even the disposal costs at end of life. EVs seem to come out ahead, all things considered.

With the 'market adjustments ' they do in America, yeah I can see why. In other countries going direct costs more. The dealer gives you a discount.

Same, if it only had the moonroof. I’m not even sure that’s an option though?

I love vinyl flooring. So easy to clean. And as far as the seats... nowadays most "leather" is just fancy vinyl.

@@remgu2000 until you boot wears a hole in it like I have in my work truck also a f150. Made me make a makeshift rubber floor mats for my vinyl floor mats

@@theblunden2 One should still use a good quality floormat to vinyl-floored pickup just like ones does with a carpeted floor. A floormat is what takes the wear and tear; not the flooring itself.

It's not that bad. quit crying

It’s actually well priced. A base XL with crew cab and four wheel drive is more expensive. Plus Ford claims all Lightning’s have FX4 equivalent equipment standard.

@@BikerJim74 you’re high

There's xl superdutys going for 50k+

Because it has the extended range battery and all the accessories that come with it.