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Are Chevy's New Heavy & Medium-Duty Diesel Trucks the Best In the Business?

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@michaelfoote8830
@michaelfoote8830 2 жыл бұрын
After watching all of your towing and electric vehicle videos, it has never been more evident that diesels aren't going anywhere. Love the content.
@nlpnt
@nlpnt 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing that could come close to replacing them for long-distance runs with current tech is a gas engine (with or without CNG capability) hybrid where you'd get that electric torque from 0 RPM without the range issues imposed by the current state of battery development and charging infrastructure. Full EV trucks are already ideal for multi-stop delivery on fixed routes, with that it's just a matter of the upfront costs of changing over, though.
@rognio3
@rognio3 2 жыл бұрын
@@nlpnt or diesel electric hybrid. Basically anything that tows anything really heavy already is. Cargo ships and trains etc. So, if they can tow 500,000,000 million pounds thousands of miles, I think they could probably make it a few hundred miles with 80000 🤷
@Drivethisnotthat
@Drivethisnotthat 2 жыл бұрын
Energy density is key and diesel wins.
@techadjunkie
@techadjunkie 2 жыл бұрын
Being the torque capacity of electric, they are much better suited to get rid of diesels than any other power plant. We are just 1 technological advancement away from this being the case(and very close overall.) I’d say within 10 years we will see them be a viable option and will likely be widely adopted… The commercial industry already has a lot of hybrid vehicles running the roads and big commercial companies are pushing for fully electric vehicles.
@Brandon68plus1
@Brandon68plus1 2 жыл бұрын
If diesels aren't going anywhere I sure hope they can improve emissions systems and get rid of def
@jays9611
@jays9611 2 жыл бұрын
everyone keeps complaining about the touch screens being to small, um are we watching tv or are we driving a vehicle down the road?
@aussiek2000
@aussiek2000 2 жыл бұрын
2500/3500 "heavy duty" are technically light duty trucks still. 4500-6500 are medium duty. And class 8 trucks like semi's, are heavy duty
@dminter1234
@dminter1234 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, according to the dot web site, any truck with a gvwr over 8500 lbs is considered a medium duty truck.
@robertryan7204
@robertryan7204 2 жыл бұрын
In Australia and outside North America all of these would be light duty , even the F550's
@lmCIoudz
@lmCIoudz 2 жыл бұрын
@@dminter1234 But that's just not the case.
@garysarratt1
@garysarratt1 Жыл бұрын
2500/3500 hd PICKUP truck, the cab/chassis are medium duty, uh, NON-pickup trucks.
@fordmud
@fordmud 2 жыл бұрын
I like the cheaper feeling materials inside as long as they are durable, much easier to take care of and clean.
@mrbob9556
@mrbob9556 2 жыл бұрын
Not for 75k.
@carbonking53
@carbonking53 2 жыл бұрын
"I love getting crappy quality for $75-80,000" - G.M. Customer
@wyo1446
@wyo1446 2 жыл бұрын
@@carbonking53 😅👍
@ChrisPBacon-gn9jx
@ChrisPBacon-gn9jx 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 LTZ. I have a darker trim then what's shown, so it looks a bit better, but still feels cheap. Everything has held up properly through Quebec winters, and the cheap rubber knobs are great to use with large gloves on Not an interior worth the price tag though, considering it's only a step under top trim
@dwaynefehr4317
@dwaynefehr4317 2 жыл бұрын
I Agree my brother-in-law has a dodge with very high end material first time we climbed in with dirtier clothes we can hardly get it clean it’s like a church truck and if I buy a truck I buy it to work
@screddot7074
@screddot7074 2 жыл бұрын
Always fun to watch 2 kids in the candy store.
@craig8638
@craig8638 2 жыл бұрын
8’ bed is so nice. I have that on my 2500 HD. Whether it’s 16 bales of hay or an 8 foot long Surfboard I love the versatility.
@windlinewatersports
@windlinewatersports 2 жыл бұрын
I'm building an earth roamer style camper on a 2021 4500 4x4 and so far it's really working well!!
@jhomrich89
@jhomrich89 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's worth mentioning that this price on the medium duty and heavy duty trucks is the chassis cab only. Doesn't include the outfit that's displayed on the trucks, the dealer buys the truck stripped down and a third party takes it and turns it into a tool truck, dump truck, RV, cherry picker or whatever the client needs and that price is going to be significantly more then the 65 to 71k they show there. A little bit misleading if you ask me.
@willmiller9631
@willmiller9631 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree. Check compared prices with ford/ram
@MrGregsRnR
@MrGregsRnR 2 жыл бұрын
The potential is there for the price to be higher for medium duty trucks. The one in the video is a single cab, 2wd with a dump bed. No other frills. Compared to basically top trim level ltz with 4wd, not hard to see the 6500 being slightly cheaper than the 2500
@Richard4point6
@Richard4point6 2 жыл бұрын
GM truck frequency of repair numbers are dismal compared to Ford.
@badgerpa9
@badgerpa9 2 жыл бұрын
If you where there you would see what he looked at is for the truck and not the upfitter gear that is priced separate, if you look to buy a truck at a dealer the sticker does the same breaking the upfitter costs out. No victimization there.
@garysarratt1
@garysarratt1 Жыл бұрын
@@Richard4point6 What are they?
@mixflip
@mixflip 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how Ram truck interiors look so much nicer than any other truck on the market. I am not a fan of fiat trucks but everyone should take notes on how to do interiors from Ram. Especially for $75,000
@Thirty-OughtSick
@Thirty-OughtSick 2 жыл бұрын
Had a 21 Ram 2500 big horn… now I have a 21 F-250 STX. I prefer the ford 1000% more
@KB-bh9hp
@KB-bh9hp 2 жыл бұрын
The rams have nice interiors for sure, but the lastest gen of f-150s seems to have closed the gap considerably.
@Thirty-OughtSick
@Thirty-OughtSick 2 жыл бұрын
@@KB-bh9hp i like my blue gauges to much
@googleaccount2637
@googleaccount2637 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer truck interiors to these screens and fancy crap.
@Thirty-OughtSick
@Thirty-OughtSick 2 жыл бұрын
@@googleaccount2637 same, super duty STX is perfect,
@anthonyellison8680
@anthonyellison8680 2 жыл бұрын
lol Diesel isnt going away for a long while. no worries about back in the day.
@smrtguy77777
@smrtguy77777 2 жыл бұрын
You could have said the exact same thing about gas only a few years ago. Gas consumer vehicles will almost certainly be gone by 2040, I’ll give diesel trucks till 2045.
@anthonyellison8680
@anthonyellison8680 2 жыл бұрын
@@smrtguy77777 you never know battery technology is going to have to get a lot better in order to do the work that a diesel truck can do.
@dude-yg9ez
@dude-yg9ez 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, I think the government in North America at least will allow diesel in HD trucks, with maybe electrification till 2024 I predict. In light duty diesel and gas will be gone by 2030-2035 I predict
@ewetuber186000
@ewetuber186000 2 жыл бұрын
Roman is an automotive industry expert. But when he says internal combustion engines are going away soon he sounds naive and financially illiterate. Electric vehicles of today don’t come anywhere close to meeting many needs, especially for heavy, long distance use. There is no battery technology on the horizon that will change this.
@anthonyellison8680
@anthonyellison8680 2 жыл бұрын
@@dude-yg9ez we are nowhere near close enough for electricity to replace diesel. Especially not 2024 maybe 20 years from now. Just look at the load these pickups can pull.
@AJmx2702001
@AJmx2702001 2 жыл бұрын
Be interesting to see if the GM medium trucks survive their International Joint Venture . Since Navistar International Is now Part of the Traton Group ( Volkswagen Heavy Trucks).. But good deal for international to have access to GM 6.6 diesel and Gas engines for their offerings in their own truck lineup
@markhavelka4924
@markhavelka4924 2 жыл бұрын
Between the hideous front end and the Fisher Price interior, I don’t understand how Chevrolet sells any HD trucks. I guess people really love their Duramaxes.
@jeffwill4923
@jeffwill4923 2 жыл бұрын
A HD truck should look aggressive IMO. Every time I see a Silverado I never have to guess which brand. Interior is simple I give you that. 2500 Duramax is still best all round model. The 3500 class is up for debate. Power increase and interior update should be out this yr.
@acemobile9806
@acemobile9806 2 жыл бұрын
Proof that GM could literally put a bowtie on a turd & you'd have some folks lining up around the block to buy it. There's a difference between aggressive & flat-out scary repulsive. GMC is the way to go for now.
@jeffwill4923
@jeffwill4923 2 жыл бұрын
The only proof here is I live near various dealers. Chevy is one of them. I get to see the Ram, Ford on same lot as Silverado. There is a clear difference. A new dealer has recently come where mostly Ram's are sold but used GM products are there also. If you prefer a toned down look there are always other options. Toyota chose a aggressive look with their truck. The recent suv release is more refined. That can be said of Tahoe and Suburban because they are similar to Silverado.
@thinde88
@thinde88 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a reason Ford dominates this market.
@diegaspumper8501
@diegaspumper8501 2 жыл бұрын
They don’t, I think you’re forgetting that Ram has a large selection of medium duty trucks as well. GM had medium duty trucks in the past, looks like they coming back out to play.
@backyrdbully3276
@backyrdbully3276 2 жыл бұрын
absolutely!!
@backyrdbully3276
@backyrdbully3276 2 жыл бұрын
@@diegaspumper8501 With all that said Ford still dominates the market.
@andrewslagle1974
@andrewslagle1974 2 жыл бұрын
@@backyrdbully3276 the 6.7 ford is a nightmare to work on !
@topshelflifestyle01
@topshelflifestyle01 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing ford did right was circle the problem
@OldDirtGuy
@OldDirtGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Breaks my heart to hear 8ft beds treated like an anomaly.
@Harry-zz2oh
@Harry-zz2oh 2 жыл бұрын
I won't buy a truck unless it has the 8 ft. bed. Too many things require that bed length.
@thomasforman7628
@thomasforman7628 2 жыл бұрын
I own a repo company I would never stop using the 6.7 cummins in my towtrucks. I have over 2 million combined miles on that platform. And never ever had a engine problem. That says alot. And I change the oil on them every 15000 miles. Running strong
@andrewslagle1974
@andrewslagle1974 2 жыл бұрын
We have seen the same thing with our ram diesels ! We will be ordering 4500 rams very soon!
@Harry-zz2oh
@Harry-zz2oh 2 жыл бұрын
The one issue I have with the Ram trucks is the lousy EPA stuff they use on the Cummins. I have an 08 Dodge 2500 but the EPA stuff is not very good and is always causing issues. I've been tempted to do a delete but eventually I'll sell it and get something newer.
@kellyheath8547
@kellyheath8547 2 жыл бұрын
the Duramax is not a hot V. The exhaust manifolds are on the outside. Ford switched around their plumbing and put the intake on the outside of the V and all exhaust in the valley.
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY, saved me some typing. 👍
@techs1smh13
@techs1smh13 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir. Leave that trying to reinvent the wheel shit to ford
@kellyheath8547
@kellyheath8547 2 жыл бұрын
@@techs1smh13 it works for BMW and Cadillac too. Idk of any diesel applications, maybe the big boys like locomotives.
@acemobile9806
@acemobile9806 2 жыл бұрын
@@techs1smh13 reinvent what? EMD has been doing it for decades!
@agerardomp
@agerardomp 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work Andre and Roman. You're the best team including to Nathan and Mr. Truck. Regards from CDMX!
@stebecinc
@stebecinc 2 жыл бұрын
Andre is pretty sharp with the Medium Duty Trucks. The window stickers are for the chassis only. The body is priced separate as GM does not manufacturer those. I used to sell GM Medium Duties. The dump is from Monroe. Good truck equipment mfg. The service body is from Knapehied. Great bodies sold about 2 dozen of those.
@josephwhiskeybeale
@josephwhiskeybeale 2 жыл бұрын
That looks like the same red dump truck they had at the DC auto show, I was really impressed with it.
@ChaseLandMgmt
@ChaseLandMgmt 2 жыл бұрын
Did 6600 miles in a 21’ 6500. Biggest disappointment I’ve ever had in my life. Rides awful, I mean AWFUL. Turning radius of a greyhound bus, but worse. Zero ground clearance. Fuel tank is tiny. It’s a gutless wonder, hard to pass from 45-60 without standing on the skinny pedal. Emission systems issues, repeatedly. I can’t even find anything good to say about it. It has sat since October without being driven.
@ericthomas2657
@ericthomas2657 2 жыл бұрын
I’m having problems with mines too bought new June 18th 2021 for 86000 and was in shop August 2 for 19 days for Coolant leak then got it back had to put it back in shop for oil leaks and has been back two more times and in shop now with the same issues and been in a month as of today and Chevy doesn’t have a time from of when this truck will be done I’m losing money everyday it’s in the shop
@juliogonzo2718
@juliogonzo2718 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to experience an even worse ride drive a Hino with 30k gvwr. Drove one for a few years was so happy when they gave me an international instead. I hated that thing other than turning radius. Couldn't set anything on the seat beside you because it was on the floor in three bumps. Had little overhead bins, they were sloped toward you so everything would pile up against the door and fall out when you opened it. Cost them $30k/year (canadian) in emmisions repairs. Left me stranded at least 4 times. They had 2 one is now dead and the others days are numbered.
@thomasroth4695
@thomasroth4695 2 жыл бұрын
People see all these big numbers then forget how heavy this pig is. Get an Isuzu cab over 5.3 see you in 20 yrs for a new one
@robertryan7204
@robertryan7204 2 жыл бұрын
@@juliogonzo2718 did you have air ride and suspended seats. No Japanese MDT here uses a conventional suspension
@robertryan7204
@robertryan7204 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasroth4695 that the Izuzu would be light truckbin Australia
@joelcrow
@joelcrow 2 жыл бұрын
Chevy needs to make more red trucks...so shiny!!
@sonnyc3826
@sonnyc3826 2 жыл бұрын
my dad just bought one a couple years aog a brand new Sierra its a nice truck and you feel safe on the road they are so big.. its like driving a tank compared to other vehicles
@dannydionne7620
@dannydionne7620 2 жыл бұрын
Yes GM is the best ......💯💯💯
@Burroughsbikebuilds
@Burroughsbikebuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious.
@eliasgutierrez6789
@eliasgutierrez6789 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone is laughing as they pass this comment because it is simply not true
@dannydionne7620
@dannydionne7620 2 жыл бұрын
Ford is garbage period.....💯💯💯
@DanBCooper
@DanBCooper 2 жыл бұрын
Had to watch this one, struck a nerve lol. I run a 2019 Chevy 5500 as a John Deere Field Service Tech ( 50k miles a year ). Unfortunately my company switched from F550's to the Chevy ( actually a International technically ). The Chevy ( at least in our application, 18k lbs curb weight ) does NOTHING more than the F550's did ( matter of fact I'm running the service bed / crane from my old F550 ), but the Chevy rides literally worse than a Sherman tank, and has a huge profile for no reason. I would contribute out of my own paycheck for my company to go back to F550's.
@1hasbeen531
@1hasbeen531 2 жыл бұрын
Navijunk, the Typhoid Mary of the trucking industry.
@TexasDragon3907
@TexasDragon3907 2 жыл бұрын
Playing devils advocate, the hood design and wider body makes working on the truck easier. If I was working on my own vehicle I'd be fine with the truck being a bit bigger if it was easier to get to things in the engine bay.
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 2 жыл бұрын
@@TexasDragon3907 excellent, much better than havung to remove the cab gor repairs like on the 550. Our F550s in the oilfield are junk. Always having problems with them. Have had a few that had to have engines replaced. Id rather habe the 5000hd that you can actuallt work on.
@michaelshone2465
@michaelshone2465 2 жыл бұрын
Dan I wholeheartedly agree. I drive a crew cab 4x4 5500 Chev very frequently set up as a little garbage truck. And while it does so the job we need it to do without any fuss really…. The ride is just atrocious. Big for no reason is right. It’s a handful on the road at all times and just bounces you around to no end. You end up sore
@waynelacombejr9936
@waynelacombejr9936 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix that was the older ford's 2009 and 2010 for sure. The 6.7 l power stroke might be one of the best diesels made, we have way less issues out of the Ford than we do out of the rams or Chevy,
@btw985
@btw985 2 жыл бұрын
The window sticker doesn’t include the body price. As far as the payload, Chevy builds it as an incomplete vehicle. The upfitter puts the final certification label on which should have the payload listed. I’m not sure the engines are rated differently exactly. They are built more for longevity and durability over max power.
@guardrail2897
@guardrail2897 2 жыл бұрын
For 2021 they were 350hp and 700tq. I doubt they increased the numbers for 2022.
@andrewslagle1974
@andrewslagle1974 2 жыл бұрын
They ard derated all mfg are that way!
@jhomrich89
@jhomrich89 2 жыл бұрын
@@guardrail2897 increased on the 2500 and 3500 series not on medium duty trucks they have different emissions standards to meet
@richardharvey8939
@richardharvey8939 2 жыл бұрын
Detuned for longevity. And to make lawyers happy. Designed to go million miles commercial.
@btw985
@btw985 2 жыл бұрын
I know they are rated lower. He made it seem like because they are measured differently was the reason.
@ericmackison9517
@ericmackison9517 2 жыл бұрын
That's the sticker price for the chassis, not the entire truck. It'd easily be $15k more after being up fitted.
@andrewslagle1974
@andrewslagle1974 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they are not very informed!
@hkwise011
@hkwise011 2 жыл бұрын
Did that red dump truck have the older interior? The dash and seats looks like it came out of the previous generation Silverado 14-18.
@MRW21783
@MRW21783 2 жыл бұрын
Looks nice but the average consumer can't afford one nor afford to fix it.
@PapisGarage
@PapisGarage 2 жыл бұрын
You'd LOVE our 6x6 version of this TRUCK!
@josenazario3658
@josenazario3658 2 жыл бұрын
Love it, you said a walk around a Ford truck in front of a Chevy rep. Hahahahaha
@chuckschob107
@chuckschob107 2 жыл бұрын
My Cummins has always been gear driven don’t act so proud it’s the only way it should be made…
@amininshassi6370
@amininshassi6370 2 жыл бұрын
Gee, I clicked on this video expecting to see the refreshed HD trucks with the redesigned interior.
@Joehatrix
@Joehatrix 2 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@kenyongillespie8652
@kenyongillespie8652 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the videos from Chicago Auto Show!
@markcreamer4649
@markcreamer4649 2 жыл бұрын
I drove toyota trucks for years, 4 cyl economical vehicles, after my divorce i bought my first chevy silverado, at 71k miles transmission blew up, i fixed it and kept driving it till the transmission went out again I now have a new ford f250 4x4 Its by far the best truck ive ever owned, ford builds a real truck, i
@justinmartin8887
@justinmartin8887 2 жыл бұрын
Right on. GM is garbage if you have to buy a larger pickup buy a ford
@davewhanger6722
@davewhanger6722 2 жыл бұрын
My fire EMS station our newest medic unit is a 550 Chevy four-wheel drive tilt front end. Took us a while to get it due to the GM strike and covid bs but so far our EMTs and medics like it.
@9663mu
@9663mu 2 жыл бұрын
Cmon GM. Yes this engine is capable but we need 1000+ LB of TQ already. And I’m sorry but the interior is such an afterthought.
@pdawg7554
@pdawg7554 2 жыл бұрын
The medium duties still use the LML I THINK. Not the newer L5P. And still use the older true Allison 6 speed. They use the last generation Silverado interior used from 2014 (starting with 1500s) - 2019 (ending with the heavy duties). I believe the headlights are from the 2014 - 2015 Silverado 1500s. It was a partnered build with international. Full C channel straight chassis borrowed from international then GM supplied the drivetrain (except axles) and body. 4wd models use a solid front axle. They CAN NOT LEGALLY TOW as much as a 1 ton dually. But they can HAUL a TON more. These trucks aren’t meant for gooseneck trailers. They are meant for heavy upfits like dumpbeds and utility beds. Believe me I would feel much more comfortable pulling 36000 pounds behind this than a 1 ton Chevy. It would handle it a lot better realistically considering it’s own curb weight and powerful brakes. But legally, it comes nowhere near the towing capacity of the 1 tons. Kinda dumb but it’s just the way that it is
@447Film
@447Film 2 жыл бұрын
When did they switch to the exhaust coming out the top like the powerstroke
@PWlangford1
@PWlangford1 2 жыл бұрын
I love the dump truck.
@bradleymeyer9775
@bradleymeyer9775 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t get to go to the Chicago Auto Show last year not this year, thanks for the videos.
@TruckerMike089
@TruckerMike089 2 жыл бұрын
Why can't GM mount the DEF tank on the proper side. All your bulk DEF pumps are on the left.
@ponce1521
@ponce1521 2 жыл бұрын
Still no info on the updated 2023 Duramax? Very curious if the power increase numbers will happen for 2023 HDs
@cfyves
@cfyves 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a fun spot to hang out!! I love my 2500!
@SwarmAM
@SwarmAM 2 жыл бұрын
HELL YEAH CHEVYS ARE THE BEST
@AbsolutionArmament
@AbsolutionArmament 2 жыл бұрын
Hot V doesn't mean the turbo is sitting in the middle. It means the exhaust manifolds are in the valley..... Most engines run the manifolds on outside and use uppipes to a collector for a turbo.
@johnolsen7073
@johnolsen7073 2 жыл бұрын
Love these trucks I have owned three now. Just getting too hard to justify paying over $100K in Canada.
@TimTheTowman
@TimTheTowman 2 жыл бұрын
Completely uninformed and unprepared to offer any real insight into the Gm medium duty trucks.. TFL comes off as clueless everytime.. For anyone considering a Chevy or Sister International.. DONT! They ride like absolute shit, have a horrific turning radius and a GVWR of only 23,500.. The inboard fuel tanks creat a huge problem as upfitters do a shitty job of finishing the fuel fill points so that they fill properly...Med duty trucks should have saddle tanks and GVWR"s of 26k.. The standard cab is cramped to say the least.. When you run the seat back the back is forced against the cab forcing the seatback to lean straight up.. Not very comfortable... And while we're on the seats.. Most real med duty trucks have air ride seats! Given that these trucks ride so terribly, Chevy should have come up with a better solution.. The 4 wheel drive system in these trucks is a joke! Don't ever plan on using it off the pavement! The transfer case is mounted ridiculously low! Also, no shift on the fly in high range.. You can't only shift to 4 wheel drive at under 10mph and likewise to shift back.. LAME! I have heard complaints about them being slow.. I think most of those complaints come from people who got a truck with tall rear end gears.. I drive a 20 C6500 4x4 everyday.. 4wheel drive trucks come with a 4:30 to one rear gear.. At 350hp and 700ft lbs I'd say that the drivetrain is the only part GM got right.. The Trans works good with the power it receives.. Using tow mode with the exhaust brake when loaded works well.. Braking is also solid for a juice brake system.. All in all, I wouldn't buy one... The previous generation of GM med duty trucks were better at being trucks, they just lacked the power of the new ones.. I honestly don't understand how GM got this soooo wrong.. NOT Impressed..
@dminter1234
@dminter1234 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2006 chevy c4500, it has agvwr of 17000lbs and a gvcwr of 26000lbs. It rides pretty rough but with the drivers and passenger side air ride seats and the air ride bags on the rear, along with my air ride 5th wheel hitch it rides ok while towing. It has the duramax lly engine detuned to 305 lbs horse power and 600 lbs torque. It is underpowered , but gets the job done. The turning radius is the best in market, and has a tighter turning radius than my dodge 1500 quad cab.
@easttexasengineering3489
@easttexasengineering3489 2 жыл бұрын
That red truck is simply beautiful... this video is a good lesson for Ford and GM owners. Notice GM keeps the 6 speed transmission in the commercial trucks because they simply last longer and take more abuse. And some people complain on why Ram has been sticking with the 6 speed Aisin transmission. More evidence on why Ram 3500 HO is built better and tougher.. ram keeps a commercial grade 6 speed transmission in the residential heavy duty trucks.. however as I mentioned that red dump is a work of are for a person getting into the dirt business.
@ajpell3219
@ajpell3219 2 жыл бұрын
It lacks fold down sides tho, and is only 2wd. Can't figure out why they showed such a basic model at a show like this. Prolly because auto shows are dying since the internet has taken over
@mr.glennlandscapes354
@mr.glennlandscapes354 2 жыл бұрын
Government motors junk! Every time I have owned a general motors product, I have been beyond disappointed with their reliability. My current work truck, 2010 f150, 200,000 miles, zero breakdowns and most of these miles were pulling a dual axle landscaping trailer.
@Joehatrix
@Joehatrix 2 жыл бұрын
Disappointed that GM are still not showing the refresh for the HDs…. Great video as always guys.
@jeffwill4923
@jeffwill4923 2 жыл бұрын
Based off last yr, probably be around September on HD refresh.
@Joehatrix
@Joehatrix 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffwill4923 that would be great!
@kenbearsley8322
@kenbearsley8322 2 жыл бұрын
If only we could get those in right hand drive for our (New Zealand) market. I wouldn't mind the 6500hd in double cab, 4 wheel drive with the dump tray on it. That would be work vehicle, my wife would have the suburban high country 4 wheel drive as the family vehicle. Since we dont get chev in New Zealand any more, we have to put up with asian tin cans on wheels.
@ChaseLandMgmt
@ChaseLandMgmt 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest POS ever, you do not want one, I can promise you that. The list of cons far outweighs the pros, by a mile.
@josels1292
@josels1292 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Silverado for 6 years with 0 issues. Sold it last years and got a suburban, best SUV ever. Smooth and not too bad on gas. So far no issues hope it stays this way.
@kenbearsley8322
@kenbearsley8322 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseLandMgmt depends on how you use it. If ya going to give it shit, not regularly maintain it, of course it will be rubbish. The same goes for any vehicle.
@ChaseLandMgmt
@ChaseLandMgmt 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenbearsley8322 you must have missed my other comment about the laundry list is issues and inferior qualities. Truck has less than 10k miles on it, we ordered it. Chevy 6500 is a disgraceful truck to wear the Chevy badge.
@stevenllewellyn8906
@stevenllewellyn8906 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseLandMgmt delete that thing. Sounds like all emissions related issues other than the ride quality. All brands have their own issues.
@qpoole90
@qpoole90 2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised gm is not offering more loaded up medium duty trucks for heavy truck campers. I was just at a truck camper rally and there were so many ram 5500 limited and f450s platinum trucks with flatbed conversions to haul the large and heavy Host Truck campers. Seems to be a decent market for these trucks. Especially higher end models. Denali 5500!
@robertryan7204
@robertryan7204 2 жыл бұрын
Here they use Japanese Trucks for comparable Host like Truck Campers in Australia
@P4SDetails
@P4SDetails 2 жыл бұрын
Truck wars is always a crazy game.
@markgezelman7477
@markgezelman7477 2 жыл бұрын
Friend of mine bought the new Chevy 6000 back in March 2021, has had nothing but problems with it.
@bradolsen8629
@bradolsen8629 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you would look at the new Colorado
@gherasimtibi
@gherasimtibi 2 жыл бұрын
My eyes started bleeding when u guys showed the interior of the z71
@Parker53151
@Parker53151 2 жыл бұрын
There aren’t enough arguments on the internet about which pickup has the better diesel engine. Toyota needs to add fuel to the fire by dropping a Hino engine into a Tundra.
@notme3184
@notme3184 2 жыл бұрын
Never gonna happen, When they released the tundra, one of the head engineers said that he asked Toyota Japan if they could put a diesel in it. They said no. so you get a hyrbid instead.
@miraphycs7377
@miraphycs7377 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Or Toyota could drop in the new 3.3L V6 Turbodiesel from the LC300/LX. It produces like 310hp and over 500 foot pounds. I personally like their 4.5L Twin-TurboDiesel V8 the best.
@notme3184
@notme3184 2 жыл бұрын
@@miraphycs7377 Literally just said that they aren't going to make a diesel
@isaac198428
@isaac198428 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota is having lots of problems with their turbo V6 engines, they should’ve kept the v8 for the Tundra instead of messing around with a small V6 for ‘fuel economy’ that nobody cares about when hauling stuff. They are learning the hard way. lol
@Raul619Meza
@Raul619Meza 2 жыл бұрын
You guys need to fix the audio. I can barely here you guys talking.
@radggs6961
@radggs6961 2 жыл бұрын
The medium duty uses the previous generation cab, exterior and interior, which is probably better for a fleet work truck.
@torontovolger3836
@torontovolger3836 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if GM has ever think about the Chevy 3500 putting a Caddy deign on it 2023 Cadillac 3500 DWR with full Cadillac luxury in it
@smath5841
@smath5841 2 жыл бұрын
No, they arnt
@Bpf1893
@Bpf1893 2 жыл бұрын
That would be cool, but I think that’s why they have GMC
@nathanialwelch4327
@nathanialwelch4327 2 жыл бұрын
That looks like it will be a pain in the ass to work on
@CortJohnson
@CortJohnson 2 жыл бұрын
Jeez- I just sat in one - the interiors are fine!
@andreitutu1041
@andreitutu1041 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean these trucks are (engine dyno) rated differently?
@jeffwill4923
@jeffwill4923 2 жыл бұрын
The rating lowered on the commercial emission engine dyno. 350hp and 700 lb-ft.
@trentdawg2832
@trentdawg2832 2 жыл бұрын
My lmm duramax has the turbo in the center too, I believe all 6.6 duramax do
@herbwheeler4470
@herbwheeler4470 2 жыл бұрын
I want a double cab,8' bed 2500
@richscott2952
@richscott2952 2 жыл бұрын
You better get a milk box to sit on for that red Chevy dump truck you’ll never see over the hood
@tjkrueger2655
@tjkrueger2655 2 жыл бұрын
That last truck is probably creeping up on $100k or more. I've seen lesser trucks going for 90k
@nlpnt
@nlpnt 2 жыл бұрын
Medium duty, class 5-6 has probably the lowest take rate for deluxe trim of any truck category because they're almost all fleet rigs. Even someone buying for themselves, it's not going to be an only vehicle like pickups usually are or a second home like the Class 8 longhaul semis; and small businesses are usually at the point of having at least a couple employees before they even consider buying one new.
@tosil
@tosil 2 жыл бұрын
Love you guys but one detail you missed. This interior is actually the last generation Silverado/Sierra interior. Similar to your Trailboss because the next gen GM trucks were that close in design, but slightly different. But this folks, is carryover from the previous generation that ended in 2018 with the 1500s and HDs. It’s still fine, spend enough time in an International Durastar and the GM interior is way better. Speaking of International…. Lol
@roywadsworth4452
@roywadsworth4452 2 жыл бұрын
question can the 7500 get 4x4 with a tandem axle locking difference ?
@godofrock
@godofrock 3 ай бұрын
HDuty is very mis-leading because the medium duty truck starts at 1.5 ton trucks . I wish they would bring back the viking name for medium duty trucks.
@karmanautoreview
@karmanautoreview 2 жыл бұрын
Cool . Hot V seems a new trend in diesel engines design. Toyota 3.3 diesel engine in the new Land Cruiser is also a hot V.
@kellyheath8547
@kellyheath8547 2 жыл бұрын
this isn't a hot V, this engine has the exhaust manifolds on the outside.
@norcalsvt0354
@norcalsvt0354 2 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert but a hot ass turbo in between the two headgaskets iono
@BNadventures608
@BNadventures608 2 жыл бұрын
best part about gm's diesels are sitting in the shop for 4 weeks waiting for def parts....
@157-40_T
@157-40_T 2 жыл бұрын
Why dial down engine on a dump truck loaded with rock or soil? Or pushing a snow plow off a county road near the farm?
@michaelbabella1103
@michaelbabella1103 2 жыл бұрын
Betting that black high country is over a hundred grand
@realaussiemale567
@realaussiemale567 2 жыл бұрын
If I wanted to get one of these imported in to Australia, I wouldn’t get much change out of $220,000, with the r/hand change over.
@robertryan7204
@robertryan7204 2 жыл бұрын
That conversion market is shrinking. Last month they sold 165 RAM 1500's, not good
@21313cord21
@21313cord21 2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if they were designed for clearance instead of being so thick.
@843MudMafia.
@843MudMafia. 2 жыл бұрын
The International truck is the same as the chevy 6500
@edvanderslice9726
@edvanderslice9726 2 жыл бұрын
Diesel fuel is like 5 bucks a gallon. Beautiful trucks and awesome engineering but you got to be fuck8ng kidding me..
@JaegerWrenching
@JaegerWrenching 2 жыл бұрын
A Hot -V design that engine is not, the exhaust manifolds are still on the outside of the cylinder head like every other engine. A true hot V has the exhaust exiting on the inside of the cylinder head like fords 6.7l. The benefit of a Hot V is the shorter pathway to the turbo for quicker response and less heat loss on its way there. Also diesel engines are almost always gear driven from the crank to cam and have been for years.
@garrymartin422
@garrymartin422 2 жыл бұрын
Watch out i bought a new 6500 hd before making first payment broke down and has been at chevy dealer for a month cant get parts for it chevy wont call me back and dealer says no updates on parts
@Pitcrew55
@Pitcrew55 2 жыл бұрын
GM DESIGNERS DRUNK OR ON DRUGS THIS THING IS BUT FUGLY
@rmp96
@rmp96 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had seen you there. I love your videos especially the Ike gauntlet videos.
@joshuaskirvin
@joshuaskirvin 2 жыл бұрын
I think truck prices are insane. Give me all the flack you want about " Oh you just can't afford, blah, blah, blah. " I don't understand why they can't just make basic trucks without all of the garbage. I don't need a backup camera that tells me which way the trailer is going to go. I am fine with vinyl flooring, manual trans, hand crank windows, etc. You get the idea. If you live in your truck on the road, I get it for you. But the rest of us, ( and I'm sure there are more of us) just need to live our daily lives. I use my truck as God intended it to be used. It's not a fashion statement or a sign of how much money I do or don't have.
@TheSoloAsylum
@TheSoloAsylum 2 жыл бұрын
There has never been a truck made that I would pay $75,000 for.
@jcurbin305
@jcurbin305 3 ай бұрын
Can the 6500s be configured to tow?
@travisbennett9751
@travisbennett9751 Жыл бұрын
Oil extraction is green compared to mining lithium. There's not enough to make a battery for everyone to have an electric vehicle. Don't worry, you won't be saying remember when we used diesels.
@stephenricketts2067
@stephenricketts2067 2 жыл бұрын
I am purchasing a new truck this summer. Looking at a diesel for towing long distance. I live in northern Canada where it gets to -51 degrees Celsius. I'm told the new diesel trucks won't work in cold weather. Any thoughts?
@KrazyGoodMods
@KrazyGoodMods 2 жыл бұрын
If you're towing longer distances, I think you should be ok. My biggest concern would be the Diesel Exhaust Fluid freezing. If it'll be running for reasonable lengths of time, however, the heaters in the DEF tank should be able to thaw it out(they're only on while the truck is). Also, don't fill the DEF tank fully in freezing temperatures. The fluid can expand up to 7% when it freezes and can damage the tank if overfilled.
@astrogreenarrow
@astrogreenarrow 2 жыл бұрын
Would they make the interior the same as the light trucks on the 6500
@JK-wr6is
@JK-wr6is 2 жыл бұрын
That interior looks like it’s from 2005…
@guyconnell2250
@guyconnell2250 2 жыл бұрын
Nice trucks. Too bad they're all "in transit".
@ronnrich4611
@ronnrich4611 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest problem I have with the medium duty trucks is that the instrument cluster is aimed at my chest instead of my face. Makes it difficult to see the top of the speedometer.
@wolfman6553
@wolfman6553 2 жыл бұрын
The top shield is for street glare issues
@daveb1081
@daveb1081 2 жыл бұрын
Peterbilt and Kenworth are worlds above in medium duties compared to everyone else
@slowgoat6089
@slowgoat6089 2 жыл бұрын
Ur talking about semi trucks
@daveb1081
@daveb1081 2 жыл бұрын
@@slowgoat6089 peterbilt and Kenworth make medium duties, and yes they are closer to a true semi because they share cabs with the T880 and 579 on some models, unlike the other brands that use the HD truck cabs, and make a medium duty out of it
@Rainy_Day12234
@Rainy_Day12234 2 жыл бұрын
That dually High Country I bet is over $100,000
@clintgray1623
@clintgray1623 2 жыл бұрын
The 4500-5500 4 wheel drive transfer case is stupid low to ground clearance and rough rides
@austanhall
@austanhall 2 жыл бұрын
So are the heads upside down like the fords
@beefcattle1543
@beefcattle1543 2 жыл бұрын
GM should give new trucks to poor people who want to work. Help build AMERICA.
@chappo4845
@chappo4845 2 жыл бұрын
Allow myself to introduce…….. myself. 😂
@terrian1679
@terrian1679 2 жыл бұрын
overheating on the way to the mountain spot has never been improved by emission quick cycle
@wolfsburg4x4
@wolfsburg4x4 2 жыл бұрын
So glad they are going big now, every truck is so miniscule these days lol
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