Tommy, thanks for using the ATRAC (eventually haha) on that obstacle instead of the locker. ATRAC -- the same as BLD / Brake Lock Differential on Jeeps -- will keep you from needing the locker for 99% of the obstacles you'll run into here in Colorado. I always try an obstacle 2-3 times with ATRAC on before using the locker, it just saves you the mechanical stress on the rear differential. What's interesting about Roman's 4Runner is that the "Trail Edition" is based on the SR5, which means no locking rear differential. That truck gets the same on/off ATRAC that the FJ gets, rather than the ATRAC with optional Multi-Terrain Select (MTS). MTS allows you to set the amount of wheel slip based on terrain: mud / snow the wheels slip more, rocks the wheels slip less. It's interesting that they're calling this the "Trail" edition when it's missing crawl control, the rear locker or MTS.

It helps to know how the vehicle works before you "review" it and make an ass of yourself

@@jimmy-buffett yota has messed with the names so often its criminal. I have a 2014 trail and it’s basically a trd offroad premium without the upgraded suspension and faux leather seats . I wish theyd stop screwing with the names.

I would put my modded Cherokee trail hawk against any of those rigs! Mine gets me through the mountains of B.C. Canada no problem!! 💪🇨🇦

Exactly

The problem with Toyota is a weak actuator. You’re describing a condition in which the dog clutches are misaligned. . This is why I like my shift lever. Little chance of failure and has some force behind it.

While you are correct that that's the issue with many 4x4 transfers cases, it is not the case with Toyotas. For whatever reason, it will simply *refuse* to go into 4-LO if you're not in neutral, and at a complete stop. The sequence is, start, foot on brake. Park to Neutral, 4-HI if not full time AWD, wait, then 4-LO and wait for it to engage. Nothing else works. It's slow and klunky.

@@daemn42 get the manual transfer case shifter in the TRD trim

Nah, not with Yotas... The actuator is weak sauce

Lol thank you -I read my manual when I bought my 5th gen, works perfectly every time as you described. 🤙🏿

I was listening to that flat ground bs thinking...what the actual f...who would do that to a vehicle? Get your ass stuck and the manufacturer says "oH wELl sTuPiD yOu NeEd fLaT gRoUnD" didnt make any sense

Exactly. Most Toyota 4x4's are like this if they have the electronic shift. This system has operated like this for a very long time. To give you an example, my 2000 Tundra uses the same system. Works exactly as Dallin Taylor explains. Its simple to operate, but does require the appropriate sequence. I actually test drove a 2015 Toyota 4runner this evening and it operated exactly like this.

These guys are expert reviewers, they don’t need to read the manual..lol

Reading an Owner's Manual, what a novel concept!

With all the time they spend with Toyotas, you'd think they'd know that by now.

Ya, A-TRAC is Toyota's version of ABS driven limited slip diff. If one tire starts to spin, it applies brakes to that side to transfer torque through the open diff to the other side that presumably has more traction. It also needs a little time to sort itself out, so you have to stay on the throttle for it to work. I've often seen off-road tests where people get it into the moguls lift tires at opposite corners, starts to spin, even roll back, then hit the brakes to stop, then hit gas to try again.. lose traction, roll back.. brake.. rinse repeat all without A-TRAC ever engaging properly. With A-Trac you just stay on the gas and *wait*, and once it starts activating it *will* pull you forward even with two tires completely off the ground on very steep terrain.

True even 2wd Toyota trucks have something similar that work on the 2 rear wheels only still something tho

I came to make the same comment lol

Yep. Atrac is like a faux locker. Especially for the front if the rear diff is locked.

I’ve had so many 4x4 and by far my fj has been the best..and I’ve had 6 g wagens! Had my fj 9 years and have no reason to sell it

The FJ cruiser is a FJ Land Cruiser

And you are right it is a Prado!

The 4runner is even more of a Prado. But yes, both are prados. Source: I own a Prado.

That is one tSUV I wish they would bring back! Loved our FJ

@@JoshS2021 Fly to the middle east and buy a brand new one. Toyota of Quatar😁

4:59 but "off road cruise control" is a terrible way to describe it It's a smart offroad traction control. Crawl control (which the current Trail Edition does NOT have) could be described as off road cruise control, though.

@@TrailTape everybody makes that mistake, even RegularCar Reviews lol

Hahaha 😂

And you have to go to neutral to go 4 low

Even doing that doesn’t work half the time. Toyota 4x4 system sucks.

@@JKHTX huh

@@JKHTX I definitely remember grinding my manual transfer case into gear when I was younger. Definitely more reliable, but unfortunately the youth of today do not understand manual anything.

That's valid for 99% of 4x4s except for the first gen Touareg where you have to engage 4LOW before you lock the central diff (4H). Now that's unusual. Basically you can only have 50/50 locked central traction in 4LOW. VW was bragging that the 4AUTO setting is so good that can deal with all the other not so gnarly situations.

Exactly. I drive a 2005 4.7L V8 4Runner. It goes into 4-LO even if it's on an incredible incline covered with rocks.

Thanks bro

Plus a locking rear diff, and not to mention The TRDOR commands a better resale value than a SR5 .

My thoughts exactly. Smart braking for traction will never do better than an actual locker. It would also cost a hell of a lot more to add a locker to the Trail Edition than $300.

TRDOR is definitely the trim level sweet spot here in Canada. Ridiculous that the TRD Pro is like 10k more. Instagram clout chaser markup.

Both of these "Trail" editions are completely lame and unnecessary.

@@trailrunnah8886 But where else are you going to get a cooler that matches the paint of the 4runner?!?

I was on a hi then got engaged and moved to lo. Pretty accurate.

Yeah haven’t had issues with mine going in 4H or 4L even on a hill and mine is a 4th Gen.

They were in neutral and let it roll back... it’s a huge issue all over the forums. Sad Toyota fan girl melting like a snowflake when they are told the truth. My Gen 2 Tacoma never had issues with low range, but it did have issues with locking the differential reliably and diff leaking... it also rattled, squealed, had ac blower motor fail, window motor fail, fender kept breaking clips. . My problem was owning a Silverado before and expecting the Toyota to be as reliable. Sold it for a Ram a year later.

@@KTMcaptain you lost me at Chevy...

@@user-gx2bs1vq7w exactly... it’s hilarious how Toyota people think Domestics are hoopties that break down every 20k miles.

@@SimplyCarReviews sorry... I’m be honest though. I abused that truck and it kept going.

@@KTMcaptain very well documented how terrible fca is. Gm is not far above. Ford seems to be the only ok one and that's not saying much. Toyota is Def not perceived reliability. How many 4runners make it to 500k or 1 mill? Whereas the trex and fiat wrangler have fatal issues after 150

only in the cars that have a lever to go into 2hi, 4hi, and 4low. you don't have to do it when there is a button or a knob

@@eliharalson7281 yes you do

@@flight2k5 if you have the knob thing it's usually the "on the fly" switch but your right about neutral even if it's the on the fly switch it's just better for your car to do it in neutral.

@@eliharalson7281 not for 4low

Can you imagine a vehicle going into 4lo at 60mph🤣 idk what these people are thinking in the comments

Sure seems like a pain to me. Make sure you are level (WTF?), don't turn dials too fast, turn the car off, then on again to reset, etc etc. They are nice rigs, but give me a physical lever to engage my drive ranges any day.

@@JF-lt5zc all you really have to do it just be in 4H and shift to neutral, then turn the knob. Or at least that’s how it is in 4th gens. I do wish that they kept the lever, it’s much cooler and more reliable.

Ya boi can attest. Former 99 Saturn SL2 owner here and that car went some interesting places

@@dakotanichols8533 probably one of the toughest cars on earth

@Devilott NL there's a video on my channel with a segment of me beating the absolute tar out of my old one. Jumping it, drifting, climbing sand dunes, etc. Go look for it. I think I called it redneck adventures, or something along those lines

@Devilott NL I smoked the radiator on the first jump. Pushed the fan right through it and into the motor. It ran in the red all day. It was hours. Good times. Yeah I love the channel they got, I just wish they'd get more aggressive. MOAB was pretty gnarly though

@Devilott NL they really can’t though. These vehicles, especially the 4 runner, are 50k. I’m not entirely sure if they own them or they’re just press cars(didn’t watch the video lol). In any case I wouldn’t take a vehicle I paid 50k for out in the bush and risk significant damage. Which is probably why I wouldn’t pay that much to off-road vehicle. Find something cheap, mod it, and then go wild with it

I'm having a hard time deciding on a 4runner or Tacoma

@@TheSupraman2jzgte If it's just a family hauler, go for 4R. If you want to move around heavy stuff, Taco.

I think a manual shifter would be better as well. What was the last year they had the manual 4wd shifter?

The 4Runner still has manual leaver. I think the difference is 4 low select.

@@AntilleanConfederation it depends on the models, sr5 and limited have the dials, trails and pros have lever, not sure of others

I was thinking the same thing

And used values on them are sky high too.

Exactly, all the dealers around me in Washington state are sold out of their Tacoma allotment several months in advance, good friggin luck getting one for MSRP

It’s all about who you know and how you negotiate. I was able to get a 2021 4Runner for 1% under invoice last week. Roughly about 4 grand under MSRP. I went on the last day of the month and negotiated directly with the general manager.

Exactly. I just got the 2021 Trail and it took months of searching for the right one and to get to it before someone else did.

😂😂😂😂😂 yea ok so the 4 runners don’t look amazing

@@bassnectarflux looks like shit and dated

@@yrrah89 Tacoma's look great

@@yrrah89 you’ve lost your mind 😂😂😂😂😂😂 have fun in your fj, don’t get stuck

Huh?

Tacoma off road costs around what a loaded Rav4 costs around here. That’s pretty affordable. Or are all new vehicles expensive?

Are you insane? I paid 28k for my Tacoma. You lmk if raptors are that much.

I paid 36k for my 2020 4 runner TRDOR. Not sure what crack you are smoking, but I have yet to see a new raptor anywhere near that price range. We do t talk about TRX...and wtf? A G Wagon?? You could get 4 Tacos or 4 runners for a G wagon. Lol

And I'm poor compared to Jeff Bezos haha.

FJ is actually still being sold to the rest of the world

@@gwot Yeah that’s nice an all but I of course mean here and it badly needs an update

@@zachariahyager3115 I like it the way it is, I'm not a fan of adding so many electronics and gimmicks. I'll welcome offroad upgrades, like a extra low 7th gear in the Bronco, or a 4:1 4Lo in the Wrangler/Gladiators. If they can come out with front/rear lockers FJ that'd be amazing.

@@gwot I think eam TFL should fly to Middle east buy a new one and bring it back here....(for testing purposes only)🤣

I'll meet you guys at the race tracks. Can't wait to see who wins.

Where exactly is the detailed comparison? I could make it up that trail in a buick.

It’s almost like there’s a book in the glove box that would tell them that??!

@@butterchup23 nah, I don't think the car makers would make stuff like that

Its paid advertising.

Bought mine in 2020 during covid 19 pandemic, they were knocking thousands off the MSRP, just to get persons to come to the dealerships. Make an appointment to see a salesman , wear a mask, 6 foot distance, got $3k off the MSRP. Glad i bought mine in 2020, same vehicle today would cost me 6-7 grand more ...plus higher interest rates.

And used ones are crazy money. People have been selling used ones to Carvana, Carmax etc for more than they paid new. Thinking of selling mine for this reason.

Not true. It’s about who you know and how you negotiate. I helped my coworker buy a 21 TRD 4Runner last month on the last day of the month for 1% under invoice. Roughly about 4 grand under msrp. I negotiated directly with the general manager and used their financing (1.9 % interest) so they made a little on the backend. Despite the shortage they still want to sell cars. Especially small town dealers struggling through the pandemic.

Funny I can do that in my 76 powerwagon

4 Hi yes. 4LO no, you shouldn’t do it on the fly.

That’s why we have 2 OFF ROAD PREMIUMS, they have the manual lever.

You can shift the knob to 4hi on the fly as well. Neither should be shifted to low range over 3mph.

Nah, you don’t have to be level, they say dumb stuff all the time. No issues with my Tacoma.

Very dumb video. They really don’t know how to use these vehicles. How they keep getting press cars is beyond me.

Roman LITERALLY does this and it still didn't shift until reversed... Pathetic.

The new one s do now....they are years behind others trucks, but yes now they do

Cement..

You don't have to be. Put it in neutral.

@@HAHA.GoodMeme they were in neutral. 🤦🏻‍♂️

You don’t, they don’t know what they are doing. I have a 2021 Tacoma TRD off-road and I have engaged 4LO on hills plenty of times without any issues. Even the owner’s manual doesn’t say anything about being level..

@@officialyasir check the forums bro, it’s a well know and common issue.

@@user-gx2bs1vq7w exactly. My 2000 WJ (Grand Cherokee) will go into every 4x4 mode every time. I have the select trac version with 2wd, 4x4 full time (basically Quadra trac 1), 4x4 part time (4x4 hi-lock), neutral and 4x4 lo-lock. Got a nice little "part time" light on the dash when engaged lol

The 4runner does that now. Hell a 10 year old fj is better then anything put out today. Without the $75,000 price tag.

Do it now because if the next redesign is built outside of Japan, then it will only go up in value.