Ok so for the uphill dirt test there are some things that SCS needs to work on. There will be a big difference between an empty trailer and a loaded trailer. It all has something to do with axle weights. An 8x6 with an empty trailer will perform worse than a 4x2 with an empty trailer because there is less weight in each axle, if one axle starts slipping on the 8x6, the rest will follow because its losing momentum. Load it up and the 8x6 can use all his axles in the right way because there's more pressure on each axle. This is one of the many reasons a lot of company's have liftable axles.
@herzglass3 жыл бұрын
But the 4x2 will experience a torque around the powered axle because of the trailer drag. The 6x4 with diff lock will have its rear axle pushed hard into the ground. Am I wrong? Also, liftable axis aren't powered.
@21babydew3 жыл бұрын
@@herzglass yes liftable axles are not powered however due to the location of the 5th wheel which can be adjusted on some trucks if neccessary the 5th wheel is typically almost perfectly in the middle of the drive axles or in the tri axle right on the middle axle / slightly forward to keep weight on the front steer axle which results in almost equal weights on both axles especially in trucks with walking beam suspension and other such heavy duty suspensions which pivot both axles equally unlike air bags in which they float independitly. so on a airbag truck which would never see this type of situation yes the rear axle could see more weight but in a heavy duty truck like a dump truck or heavy haul truck no the weight would be near equal on both drive axles.
@herzglass3 жыл бұрын
@@21babydew Thank you for your elaboration. It's beyond doubt the physics in the game need some tweeking.
@goliathprojects73543 жыл бұрын
The 8x6 with the one axle trailer is so overkill and I love it.
@skamplettdn55523 жыл бұрын
Professional powerlifter transporting empty bag better than school-boy)))
@JK-uy8yi3 жыл бұрын
'Yeah just put the first 6 pallets in sideways double-double-double and single-double-single the rest of the way back'
@RichManSCTV03 жыл бұрын
Nice testing map btw!
@tt-nm4yj3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find it?
@szewei853 жыл бұрын
Mod websites i guess
@BerndFunken3 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see if the new "Heavy Duty" tires make any difference.
@dedyarief9963 жыл бұрын
It's no difference, they dont have an actual stats like in ets so it's just for cosmetic/look
@EdwardZNorton3 жыл бұрын
heavy duty tires? you mean the offroad tires right?
@SparrowRz3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter how many wheels you have, SCS have a lot of work to do with grip, traction and downhill inertia, physics need to be improved
@alexsurh14723 жыл бұрын
Yea they need to transfer the game to a new engine even if that takes years, it will be worth it
@icecreaminc80133 жыл бұрын
yes cos driving a truck and load weighing 34 tonnes up a 45% incline happens in the real world. /sarcasm
@techforthedisabled95143 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Ward4133 жыл бұрын
I also really wish they would simulate chassis twist better. The Cascadia in real life has huge amounts of torque twist in lower gears. The Kenworth's I've driven felt a bit more stable with less body roll. But the trucks are definitely too rigid in ATS and ETS. Accelerating at wide open throttle in the game you should see the cab rocking back and forth more between shifting, at least in the lower gears when you're getting the most torque.
@jeanlafrance87463 жыл бұрын
@@Ward413 completely agree! That was what I love the most about driving trucks in real life, feeling the torque twisting and squatting the cab
@haxicgamerhun3 жыл бұрын
1:30 I think this gate is taken from an older SCS game called Trucks&Trailers.
@pqhkr20023 жыл бұрын
Someone have tested in ETS2 that automatic transmission is not good at hill climbing. //edit: wrong reply. lol
@faydulaksono3 жыл бұрын
@@pqhkr2002 hmmm maybe this sometime my truck suddenly stuck ..is it bug?
@pqhkr20023 жыл бұрын
@@faydulaksono Maybe.
@Bremend3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was from the secret track in Arizona?
@MrBeazT273 жыл бұрын
@@Bremend yes, you thought right xd
@TheClumsyGeekGaming3 жыл бұрын
Great tests! Glad to see the chassis options actually do make a difference on the truck's performance. Thanks for the vid!
@skamplettdn55523 жыл бұрын
In ETS 2 1.4 we can see 4x2 truck jumping when tries to pull 25+ tons by flat road. Contact area is too small for this task. In this video we can see the same: 8x6 has triple contact area + 4 tons extra weight, 6x4 has double contact area + 2 tons extra weight, 4x2 has smallest contact area, length and weight.
@sheppardpat473 жыл бұрын
When a loaded truck is faster than your car at a 0-100 lmao
@skamplettdn55523 жыл бұрын
The empty trailer is only for better contact with surface. 650 HP / 8 tons = 81.25 HP per ton. Usual car have 100 HP / 1 ton = 100 HP per ton. A truck accelerates and decelerates slower usually.
@thehobo003 жыл бұрын
I've barely heard of this game and I was suggested it on KZfaq. And yet I find myself watching it entirely. Nice job editing!
@thevashfan123929 ай бұрын
with the new 8x4 midlift, you get quite a bit of most worlds except shorter turn radius it allows me to get 6 MPG on a 300 gallon tank with heavy hauling as a lucrative option and run almost all loads on just one tank of fuel. coos bay to fort worth is the only one that requires a refuel right now and getting this amazing 1800 mile range is legendary.
@GewelReal3 жыл бұрын
That moment, when a truck does a 0-60 sprint faster than your car
@Hartbreak13 жыл бұрын
I understand why there was another truck for the 4x2 test but the automatic transmission really sucks for uphill testing 😂.
@curtisnoble.3 жыл бұрын
Should’ve had diff lock on the dirt traction test
@vratislavtupecjr.94983 жыл бұрын
You should test it with Volvo. It has 8x6, 6x4, 4x2.
@fabyanraiferlangga59783 жыл бұрын
Volvo has 8x4 not 8x6
@vratislavtupecjr.94983 жыл бұрын
@@fabyanraiferlangga5978 ok.
@EdwardZNorton3 жыл бұрын
nice little video, only problem is runnin a 7spd pickup transmission, you'd get better stats with an 18 speed using the granny gears
@gibattiston3 жыл бұрын
make a tire comparasion, off-road vs normal
@StudioDaVeed3 жыл бұрын
My understanding is there is no difference in tire manufacturer or styles modeled in. Pure looks.
@lexik2233 жыл бұрын
@@StudioDaVeed In ATS it really isn't. In ETS there is a difference a for example ability to keep traction on water makes a huge diference on each tire. ;-)
@StudioDaVeed3 жыл бұрын
@@lexik223 Ok, cool...odd they build the sister sims so differently....
@flareside2593 жыл бұрын
@@lexik223 Only tire in ATS that is different is the heavy duty tire. It has a different roll resistance and wet grip.
Someone have tested in ETS2 that automatic transmission is not good at hill climbing.
@afluffypinecone35773 жыл бұрын
Why did you test it with a 7 speed? An 18 speed would've made more sense, that's why it exists
@philosopherqhamilekabeni59043 жыл бұрын
the 8x6 had more potential uphill. Impressive
@Void_s3 жыл бұрын
Well, technically it's a fully AWD cart with just a pair of steer non-drive wheels))
@KartikPlays2 жыл бұрын
TGM: Compares all chassis Me who plays v1.0.0: Interesting.
@theblitz16873 жыл бұрын
in the traction test 8x6 didnt have enough torque so it could go even further :) id like to see some cornering tests between these trucks
@guplay20323 жыл бұрын
in that last test say goodbye to the clutch
@OoogaBoog3 жыл бұрын
My simulator clutch just had a heart attack on that incline.
@glenpease4533 жыл бұрын
i advise people to watch this video and think of when you see a tractor trailer trying to pull out (give them room) got to think of your serounding's and others around you i seen truckers get hurt by those that dont pay attention so keep in mind they cant turn as good as you can so please give them room :)
@RubberburnerGaming3 жыл бұрын
Cool video.... would be interesting to see stopping potential, and maybe a "moose" test (quick manure test with a higher centre of gravity, and heavy load to see which is more likely to tip over)
@4_SJR3 жыл бұрын
test track download?
@tractor6x43 жыл бұрын
very cool your video! would pass the link to download this map?
@JesseEder3 жыл бұрын
Great video TGM :)
@alphagambit35383 жыл бұрын
i like the ideal of this test and the map is great however i might want to make 1 suggestion.... try using the same truck manufacturer like mack they have all 3 chassis on one truck and would be a better teset since the first truck you have is definatley light then the w900 is so me personally i cant look at that as a propper test, Other wise i think the video is pretty cool!
@smittsluchianoTV3 жыл бұрын
when u fail to lock the dif on dirt roads lol
@teamidris3 жыл бұрын
Tarmac hill test looks right. The only difference was truck mass vs distance. Coefficient of friction doesn’t care about the number of wheels. - Turning circle is a lot less simple. With 10 ton per rear axel the 4x2 will be the same radius all the time. The 6x4 will really try to go in a strait line and the Oshkosh tri-drive is so bad it is 8x8x4 with a rear steer axel. - As a side note a double drive with a lot of weight behind it up a steep incline will lift the front axel of the road and then it doesn’t steer at all :o)
@Catonaut.3 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to do a turning radius video with the HCT Trailer versions in ETS 2.
@dan24043 жыл бұрын
That's good idea. Make more videos like this!
@cvguerra87473 жыл бұрын
awesome video, nice comparison
@DeathRaven.3 жыл бұрын
Every time a video comes up on this game I wish had a PC that could handle it. My laptop can barely run it on the lowest graphics.
@HectorReyes19783 жыл бұрын
awesome video, now i can see that is really a difference between them ...thanks a lot
@user-xe7gh1os3s3 жыл бұрын
Yes you did it! Kenworth w900!😄😄😄😲😲
@gregorydayton54283 жыл бұрын
Nice Job, very cool test!
@theodorespittnikov54703 жыл бұрын
TY I had looking for this kind of comparation
@tt-nm4yj3 жыл бұрын
Why did the 6*4 start in 2nd gear?
@YungRolex3 жыл бұрын
No reason to start in lower gears if you can handle higher gear starts.
@Duvstep9103 жыл бұрын
@@YungRolex its an automated manual transmission (still a pure automatic for me). It chooses the best gear to start in based on a whole load of factors. If you wanna start in a lower gear; play the game with the manual transmission setting.
@ZombieKiller7893 жыл бұрын
Also Auto and manual make a big difference; and dont forget the driver
@ZombieKiller7893 жыл бұрын
Sorry but SCS has some work to do
@David-oj4lq3 жыл бұрын
Great video man. Thanks
@TimiCAR3 жыл бұрын
where can i find the map?
@versianimoreira3 жыл бұрын
SCS, the best truck simulators!
@Filenga3 жыл бұрын
Incredible video!
@nzchariboy3 жыл бұрын
i can smell the clutch from here
@kamata933 жыл бұрын
It would be more interesting testing a truck which has all chassis options and something along the line of 400-500 bhp. To my mind comes the Mack Anthem which I believe has all chassis options.
@waldemarfilho_br71853 жыл бұрын
The volvo vnl have all chassis type
@TGMStefa3 жыл бұрын
Correct, but only 8x4 no 8x6
@waldemarfilho_br71853 жыл бұрын
@@TGMStefa its true..
@MC27383 жыл бұрын
Darn I wanted an 8x6 for the Volvo :c
@monsterd75123 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Poor ETS2!😭
@monsterd75123 жыл бұрын
@Herr Hoffmann Hey, What's Your Favourite New Update For 1.41?🤔
@monsterd75123 жыл бұрын
@Herr Hoffmann And I Love Drivers/Trucks/Trailers Visible On The Road With CB Radio And Real Sound Motor Engine Trucks With Update Turbo Sound.
@winfield3473 жыл бұрын
@Herr Hoffmann ets2 pisses all over ats.
@SouthEastTrainspotter3 жыл бұрын
@@winfield347 Yes but both games are good i own both i like ets2 more
@winfield3473 жыл бұрын
@@SouthEastTrainspotter me 2.and I like ets2 better as well.it's a more realistic drive.the only thing you don't get is when you bin in a truck for 2 days and nights when you get back in a car it feels like a go kart.
@RememberTheFalklands3 жыл бұрын
Played for years. Should not like it. But... I love this game. This vid made me love it more... no idea why, on both counts 🤣
@Mike256543 жыл бұрын
The traction test was not traction but power. If you used a proper transmission you would have gone further with all of them.
@alberplays76333 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Great video.
@Invocated_Agitator2 жыл бұрын
You should have tested 6x2 too. it has tighter cornering than 6x4, because the pushing axle is closer to the front axle.
@2boredfortv3 жыл бұрын
Great presentation!
@KenworthmanJRS3 жыл бұрын
The turning radius test isn't exactly fair because the T680 is a set back front axle configuration where the W900 is a set forward front axle. Both truck with the same rear axle configuration the T680 would still turn tighter
@MANTRAKKK3 жыл бұрын
awesome. thx
@Turgineer2 жыл бұрын
The more wheels, the less weight per axle. 4x2 is best if you don't really carry loads.
@jeandanev3 жыл бұрын
Good job 👌
@LegendMuscle3 жыл бұрын
Ooo 8x6 is slower. Surprised.. This wouldve been a nice update for the logging dlc
@MegaLol2xd3 жыл бұрын
guess why... it's heavier lol.
@SOU69003 жыл бұрын
😆 A tridem doesn't look right pulling a 28 foot pup trailer. I hope you also locked your power dividers when you did the dirt road hill climb.
@henriqueem023 жыл бұрын
It doesn't work to have 3 axles pulling if the weight is divided between them, you need to have weight on them to make a difference, the weight makes pulling better
@cobaltraven31943 жыл бұрын
I know the chassis are good but both Peterbilt and Kenworth need their C 15 Caterpillar 720 motor
@GulfCoastTim3 жыл бұрын
Great video here
@sghsdhdkfh3 жыл бұрын
i like all of them
@uraveragemobileplayer59173 жыл бұрын
Nice
@tatusmachine013 жыл бұрын
Nice videos man! By the way, I don't like the way the engines sounds, so what are the best mods for sound?
@Herobryce10753 жыл бұрын
8x6 may not be the fastest or most maneuverable, but it'll get you up a mountain.
@sambosomethin78443 жыл бұрын
so would the 6x4 or 4x2. Mountains arent that steep
@ItzChaza3 жыл бұрын
@@sambosomethin7844 he cheated the 8x6 up the asphalt hill using the handbreak bug, basically when you apply the handbreak and full throttle away but the truck doesnt move because its on a hill ect it keeps randomly jumping forward like seen in this video
@dungeonlord3 жыл бұрын
another comment for re-doing the test using an 18 speed for the hill climbs and locking in 1 gear instead of shifting
@peet_velkey26713 жыл бұрын
NIce testing
@ruthlessadmin3 жыл бұрын
Good video but I still don't know if I like the tradeoff between my 8x6's monster traction vs the maneuverability of a 6x4 =/ The 8x6 has made me have to give up on a few parking jobs, because I just am not skilled enough to really weasel it into extremely tight situations (at least in so far as the stock game has to offer).
@02091992able3 жыл бұрын
Where the differentials locked on the 6x4 chassis?
@amirnik97213 жыл бұрын
Perfect 🤩
@MegaLol2xd3 жыл бұрын
you've used wrong transmission, btw irl its impossible for Allison to handle 600hp engine anyways.
@aaa-kx3yt3 жыл бұрын
It helps to turn if u lift u the axle
@user-xe7gh1os3s3 жыл бұрын
4x2 Kenworth w900 that I vote
@SuperMegaGamingTR3 жыл бұрын
perfect!
@snakeinfested55253 жыл бұрын
спасибо! более чем наглядный тест
@Jalter-kun3 жыл бұрын
To honest I forget 4x2 excited I never see it in ATS
@WayneKerr69420 Жыл бұрын
They need to rework the t680 and 579
@clubvillain3 жыл бұрын
nice video
@hp_32663 жыл бұрын
Now we just need a testing map for ets2 that works with the new 1.40 update...
@66lwmorgan3 жыл бұрын
Where is this track located
@szewei853 жыл бұрын
Haha cool. Need 2 test 8x6 soon. Been driving 8x4 many days. Hahahaha.
@Unrealbr3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Canwe get this for ETS2 also?
@sergioquezada81272 жыл бұрын
where can i get these mods?
@patrienastanley50983 жыл бұрын
I know four by two trucks are actually the best in ATS
@iamthewolf72773 жыл бұрын
...was these trucks full stock??
@kenesufernandez12813 жыл бұрын
♥️
@zakcary.17713 жыл бұрын
What grapics card?
@techforthedisabled95143 жыл бұрын
What map are you using
@MathieuDublanc13 жыл бұрын
Should use VOLVO VML because it have all configurations
@TGMStefa3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't have 8x6,only 8x4 midlift
@kteo7794 Жыл бұрын
hey tgm, we can download the map?
@martinsv91833 жыл бұрын
Haha.. who made the physics for this game? :) Driving up a 45 deg dirt incline incline with 2WD towing a trailer... sure :p In real life on dry tarmac and a 4WD car you will just barely make it up a 45 deg incline...
@tylergladys66263 жыл бұрын
Yeah it looks like oilfield haul roads in West Virginia
@LooZoo3 жыл бұрын
How do you get the camera to stay still when the truck turns at 5:50?
@dukeninja74813 жыл бұрын
Developer mode
@LooZoo3 жыл бұрын
@@dukeninja7481 In the Developer Console? Do you know the command for it?
@dukeninja74813 жыл бұрын
@@LooZoo I think hes using the freecam by 0
@LooZoo3 жыл бұрын
I don't think so because the truck stays in the center
@dukeninja74813 жыл бұрын
@@LooZoo hes just using the controls to keep it in centre, look carefully its not perfect
@matthea.t.s.gamer12173 жыл бұрын
were is the hill
@AngelusFromHell2 жыл бұрын
I apologize for my ignorance, but 6x4 means 6 wheels 4 drive wheels (rear e middle wheels)?
@TGMStefa2 жыл бұрын
Correct
@georgecostanza93873 жыл бұрын
Test transmissions now
@nerfcommando1492 жыл бұрын
how do you get this map or maps? the straightaway and hills look fun to play with.
@TGMStefa2 жыл бұрын
This is a custom map i made for testing
@fabinhoandrade94813 жыл бұрын
How do I download this map for or Euro truck simulator?