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😂😂me too buddy me too

Yeah for sure definitely key. Especially if your going to have to reposition to a place with better footholds.

Also good to never put knots in your line (when it's stored), and keep a short river knife to hand in case the rope gets snagged on swimmer/obstruction?

I'm a search and rescue tech as well, specializing in water and mountain rescues. I noticed the same thing right away, even a small mistake like that can put multiple lives at risk.

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I feel the same way about the Carabiner on the end. A: It does add some wait and makes your throws more accurate. B: like you said, they can clip off with it. C: In case they can't grip the rope, the C-biner is a last chance grab. Moral of the story, Practice throwing... It's not as easy as he made it look.

So 'always' is a strong word and this is something I have debated a couple of times, I am glad you brought it up because I forgot to talk about it in the video. So I do agree that it always is best when you can get their attention, but be careful to not let it become where you ONLY throw once you have their attention. I have seen people just sit there waiting and waiting because they want to get the persons attention but sometimes that is just not possible. If you are able to get their attention great, but assess the situation. Sometimes people are getting worked in their boat or recirculating in the hole and they just won't get a chance to notice you, so pick your moment and get the rope to them. I guess my short way to put it would be don't assume you shouldn't throw the rope until there is eye contact, sometimes it's just about them hearing you.

Another thing you did well was use friction well with the rope and rock. Nice job Dane. :)

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Well he did. Wasn't obvious when he was yelling his name?

Dane would have made a good QB. That was a hell of a toss! Nice job

Hay young man ever forward sounds like your on your way to be a professional white water Kayaker set your goals work, hard at it and it will come true. You will make mistakes but how you take those mistakes and make them a positive is Knowledge and just maybe you will get the opportunity to meet your idle. PS you did just fine with your English at your age keep, paddling. Hay Dan are you listening, sounds like a special young man.

Appreciate it!

Not to mention that throw, imagine if it landed just behind him. Do you purposely not throw it in front? Seems hard to time that in the moment.

@@duganrocks100 I think it's mentioned that 'in front' can drop short, while (from my training) if it goes over the head then the line drops right at your face, and so can never be too far behind ;-). We were also trained to raise hands in a V for maximum catchablity..

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Good question, and in the end that is why not paddling with less than 3 people can make a huge difference. That being said if something goes wrong, simply decide where you will be most useful. Don't forget that sometimes if the other person is in a hole close to shore, you can pull them out of the hole in their boat. It all depends on the situation, but I would I say I most often get out because being able to rope someone is a better situation than having to deal with them in your boat. In this situation in particular, if for whatever I was the only other person, I probably would have still gotten out due to knowing what was downstream.

I also share these views, thanks for your answer

It's true that if you can set the rope around your back, it is the best way to support the weight and not lose the rope. But even if you have the rope around your back you should still have somewhere to brace your feet against. Even if I had it around my back on top of the rock I still would have been pulled in.

@@danejacksonkayak Here in UK, I've had instruction that says to avoid having the rope wrapped around you in any way, just in case you are off-balanced by the pull and then the rope is locked around you. Various holding techniques are taught to help firmly lock the rope without becoming trapped, and are easy to release if slack needs to be paid out. Wrapping the rope round the boulder or tree is much better.

Myself and my friends agree that in a case like this we will gladly take a carabiner to the face instead of what could happen downstream.

Dane Jackson Legendary paddling, you guys are on the razor’s edge of what is possible.

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🤘 I generally will have my camera gear with me.

We found it like 5 miles downstream or something I think, not in great shape.

@@danejacksonkayak - do you have clean booties?!!!!

That’s a good question.

It's my camera gear. But I will usually have a first aid kit with fire starting equipment behind my seat in a small dry bag.

I try to use ropes between 50-70ft. If its more straight forward days I will use the lighter one like the new Kokatat throwbag, which is 50. But if its more dangerous days I like using the NRS Rescue Compact which is 70ft.

As long as the water is fine to do so get him on the back for a stern deck carry, kicking and keeping his head at your hips. Or swim to sure if able. The boat you can ram, aiming for the bolt on the side. Or keep it upside down, pull the nose over your lap and rotate it slightly to crack the air seal. Pull the cock pit over your lap and rock the boat side to side getting as much water out as you can. Flip it right side up, aim and push from the tail into your slowest water. you can also look up deep water rescue videos good stuff.

@@shirotorisan2032 awesome! I appreciate the help!

For the swimmer just have him grab your stern handle and kick if he can't get to shore himself. As for the boat, practice lifting the boat out of the water as much as possible to get as much water out as possible, then flip it upright and start pushing it towards shore with your hands. This way it's much easier to push with less water, and you are not attaching yourself to it.

I use the Kokatat Huck most days on the water. But as it’s a bit shorter if it’s bigger trip or a bigger project I use the NRS Compact bag. The bag I had in this video is from HF and it’s a great bag, easy to toss. But for a longer bag I like the NRS because it packs so easy. But I use the Kokatat Huck almost every day these days, it’s lightweight but gets the job done.

@@danejacksonkayak thanks

I was using this HP bag at the time. But I use the Kokatat bag most of the time. And the NRS bag on bigger expeditions.

Yep! About 70% deaf so it happens at times 🤘

@@danejacksonkayak its very lowkey to the point that im a huge fan and just barley realized it was there. I hope i didnt come off the wrong way, it was more for edification

I normally use an NRS rope, although I didn't have one at the time. The rope doesn't effect how hard it is to get out really, it was just because my hands were freezing and I was catching the carabiner on the bungee.

It will depend on relative speeds, amount of slack available, and the hindrances on the bank. If it's a loaded canoe then you want maximum line length, a solid belay, a good pendulum and a quiet eddy to recover the boat (or abandon it..). For a fellow paddler, you want a prompt safe rescue, so taking a static belay where you are, potentially paying out a little slack if dynamics and positions are poor, will be the first choice.

Yep 🤘 I’m about 70% deaf, born that way.

Ty for answering sir! Really enjoying watching your videos.

I find it irritating when people ask such questions but it's interesting that Dane answers it with such class. Why does it matter? He's producing the best is content on KZfaq and it does make me kind of wonder something. For those of us with better hearing I wonder if that makes us more fearful especially in big rapids, because the sound may be more intimidating. Dane has an abnormal ability to read water (and tune out fear) and I'm wondering if his other senses are sharpened perhaps to compensate for his partial hearing impairment, providing Dane doesn't wear hearing aids while paddling. I would think that would be expensive due to water damage. Dane, I'm almost your dad's age btw, a little older. He was my inspiration back in the day. Now I'm reliving my glory days watching you lol. Keep up the good work.