Should you STILL buy properties in a limited company?

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Ahmed Khan

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00:00 Introduction
00:10 Tax in Personal Name
02:40 Tax in a Limited Company
04:23 Dividends in a Limited Company
07:03 Biggest Issue with Personal Name!

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@davidjenkins5443
@davidjenkins5443 17 күн бұрын
Helpful video. Point of note that any income over £100k the government deduct £1 off your personal allowance for every £2 you earn (until it runs out at £125k). Which equates to 60% tax from earnings between £100k to £125k! So if you earn the £125k you effectively have zero personal allowance. Hideous rule!!
@Mike-lb1hx
@Mike-lb1hx 20 күн бұрын
My understanding is the video is incorrect. The changes to tax meant the income was taxed at the marginal rate but the interest cost was restricted to basic rate. This makes no difference to basic rate tax payers. you still pay tax of £450* 20% = £90 It is higher tax payer who pay more by 20% of the interest costs or an extra £70 / month ((40%-20%) * £350
@44dhm
@44dhm 20 күн бұрын
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@shilpamaishari6976
@shilpamaishari6976 21 күн бұрын
Interest rates are 1% higher if you buy in LTD company as compared to personal name. Can you please Include in your calculations to understand how much you will actually save in LTD company
@abdullahk8691
@abdullahk8691 21 күн бұрын
So are legal fees and product fees most of the time! At the moment still better to be with Ltd company
@domever7899
@domever7899 20 күн бұрын
Also need to add in the fees in regards to a limited company. Mainly, the accountant (other fees are minor). A limited company really helps if you plan to continue growing the portfolio.
@ThatAhmedKhan
@ThatAhmedKhan 20 күн бұрын
I'll do another video where I add these things in!
@shilpamaishari6976
@shilpamaishari6976 20 күн бұрын
@@ThatAhmedKhan thanks Ahmed..really great content! 👍
@Mhyykol
@Mhyykol 18 күн бұрын
Yes please add the extra fees because it’s not as clear cut as this
@Abdullah97484
@Abdullah97484 20 күн бұрын
Great video, just going through this at the moment and looking into Incorporation relief and tax efficient strategies. Appreciate your analysis.
@TazBo-wd2ig
@TazBo-wd2ig 20 күн бұрын
I’m on £50k, I have one house which rental income is £1300 a month with a mortgage of £790 on that property. So it only generates £510 a month. If I add that onto my net salary of £3,293.45 it takes me into the 40% tax bracket. The UK is the biggest pain in the ass! Moving that one property into a LTD means less lenders, pretty sure higher interest rates. There must be another way around.
@RakyleMahoney
@RakyleMahoney 19 күн бұрын
But when you do move, you can claim many costs to the company and reduce the tax burden.
@mike.3000
@mike.3000 19 күн бұрын
You can pay into your pension to reduce your income
@AN-vt3kl
@AN-vt3kl 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for video, this is anwer I was looking for, so I can plan my next purchase of btl right way!!! Thanks
@ThatAhmedKhan
@ThatAhmedKhan 21 күн бұрын
Glad it was useful!
@liam-james
@liam-james 20 күн бұрын
Missing half the picture. The mortgage would be more in the ltd as rates are higher for ltd companies. The fees to take out the mortgage are higher in an ltd increasing the initial investment. The cost of running a ltd is huge especially if you only have 1 or 2 properties to split that cost between. I’m sure if you worked it out properly as it would be in the real world you’d need 6+ properties before ltd would work out better than personal name. If you then took into account the extra cost per property while you built up the portfolio say 3/4 years of extra cost getting to 6+ properties your looking at a 10-15 year time span before you get that lost money in the early years back. It’s never as black and white as all these videos make out.
@ThatAhmedKhan
@ThatAhmedKhan 20 күн бұрын
Yes these are fair points but like I said in the video, as long as you’re under £50k then you can get away with personal. But even if you factor in the points you’re making with higher rates etc, once you get into that 40% tax bracket, the outcome will be still the same ie personal will not be worth it
@jimmys8483
@jimmys8483 17 күн бұрын
I’ve got to agree. I’m in the 40% tax bracket with my day job so surely it makes sense for me to go limited even with one extra property?
@michaelgidea6794
@michaelgidea6794 21 күн бұрын
Great video! Few notes: -I think that dividend allowance has dropped even more from 1k to £500 -once you paid yourself a dividend are you not supposed to pay Income tax as well (form the dividend income)? 😯
@scotttraynor1976
@scotttraynor1976 19 күн бұрын
You can claim a 20% tax credit to offset against mortgage interest up to the lower tax band. Example Portfolio producing; £70,000 -20,000 Expenses £50,000 income including interest -30,000 Net of mortgage interest £20,000 mortgage interest Because the net income and mortgage Interest is still within the lower tax band, the tax credit offsets any applicable tax on the interest. You would only pay income tax on £17,430 Once it goes over £50,000 you are attracting tax. Example; £50,000 Salary from employment £12,000 Rental income from a property £12,000 - 2,000 Expenses £10,000 profit including mortgage. Tax would be £4,000 as you have no lower rate banding left to claim tax credit. In effect this means tax on turnover.
@andrewfallon2719
@andrewfallon2719 20 күн бұрын
But is it worth it after you hit 50k as your being taxed 19% + 33.75% = 52.75% How is anyone making any money with taxes that high ?
@Darren306
@Darren306 21 күн бұрын
Great video. Quick question. I'm still in the 20% tax bracket (around £40k PA) with 1 BTL property. When I buy my 2nd property, can I offset 50% of the income to my wife. She's well within the 20% bracket THANKS
@dhaval51188
@dhaval51188 21 күн бұрын
Very good video Ahmed, It’s always best to have a limited company and I totally agree with you bro, but in the UK for PAYE/Businesses we have Progressive Taxation System which means if the profit/salary is above 50k, it doesn’t deduct full 40% but it deducts nearest threshold first. Like you’ve mentioned first 12,570 Threshold.
@ThatAhmedKhan
@ThatAhmedKhan 21 күн бұрын
Yep - after 40% it becomes very difficult to operate without a limited company
@Raresstanciu1
@Raresstanciu1 21 күн бұрын
@@ThatAhmedKhan why
@djpatch6754
@djpatch6754 19 күн бұрын
@@ThatAhmedKhanyeah, why? Keen to learn…
@neilconstant7892
@neilconstant7892 20 күн бұрын
You never included the higher mortgage costs, at least 1%, also in a personal name you can claim back 20% or mortgage interest costs, plus all the extra legal fees and accountancy fees, it be good to see a video which incorporates those. Also it be good for it to compare someone that lives purely off property and someone who earns 50k from employment to see the true comparison. Like you presentation but lots of variables not included. Also is corporation tax not 25% when you earn over 50k?
@farazbajwa6615
@farazbajwa6615 19 күн бұрын
Not related to this video, but as you mentioned recently that you sold your first deal as a Sourcer, will you be making a course about deal sourcing and would you consider partnership with other sourcers?
@Buy_YT_Views.53
@Buy_YT_Views.53 21 күн бұрын
I love the way you explain things
@ThatAhmedKhan
@ThatAhmedKhan 20 күн бұрын
Glad you found it useful!
@ameeno
@ameeno 19 күн бұрын
Getting a mortgage on ltd is much more, managing company comes with costs and headache, (accounting fees) + all the property value increase is owned by the ltd, on sale of property u can't get the money out easy.
@craigwright2910
@craigwright2910 21 күн бұрын
Hello ahmed thanks for the video, I've got a question for you. I bought a rental property in my own personal name a few years back when my salary was lower which meant combined with my rental income my overall income was still below the 40% bracket. Now my income has gone up substantially and im entering into the 40% tax bracket because of my rental, my question being can you somehow convert/swap my rental in my personal name over to a limited company ? I have a mortgage outstanding on the property if that makes any difference also. Cheers
@nickk8045
@nickk8045 20 күн бұрын
Yes you have to sell it to your ltd company at a reasonable price . your company doesnt pay anything but the stamp duty tax , I think
@markjenkins6935
@markjenkins6935 20 күн бұрын
Very good video Ahmed and much appreciated as a lot of other property videos on this subject are vague with far less explanation. 2 years ago I purchased 6 properties over 12 months which means I now have 8 in total in my personal name. This meant that I finished my Job to do property full time and I am able to use the tax free allowance to it’s maximum and manage to just stay within the 20% bracket by being strategic new year tax year end, yet I’m still being told that I would have been wiser to put in in LTD company structure. I have no plans to add anymore properties to my portfolio and pay myself £2000 pm to live on while hopefully over time capital growth will add to my pension (I’m 49 years old) was I wrong to think personal name was a better way for myself?
@scotttraynor1976
@scotttraynor1976 19 күн бұрын
You’d pay more tax pulling out of a ltd company.
@markjenkins6935
@markjenkins6935 18 күн бұрын
That was my thinking. I pull out £24k a year and in a Ltd company structure, I would pay 19% corporation tax and then income tax on payments after my dividend allowance. I’ve since been told that as I would pull the £24k straight out and not leave it in the company I wouldn’t pay any corporation tax on it, only income tax on the £24k as I do now but I would be able to claim against my mortgage payments as I’d have a limited company structure. It’s difficult one to weigh up I suppose as I’d also have to consider the extra payments of an accountant and the extra approximately 1% mortgage costs of a Ltd company mortgage on each of my 8 properties.
@cameronbensimon
@cameronbensimon 20 күн бұрын
It switches when you move higher, better to do it personally or keep the money in a company and never take it out
@lawreenasjiupsnees9915
@lawreenasjiupsnees9915 20 күн бұрын
Would be practical to include accountants annual fees for your LTD company holding all your investment properties to get a clear picture of your total expenditure.
@andymartin9409
@andymartin9409 20 күн бұрын
Have i misunderstood but if you're in higher rate bracket youll pay corp tax, min 19% and 33.75% on dividends?
@domever7899
@domever7899 20 күн бұрын
That is how I understand it.
@andrewfallon2719
@andrewfallon2719 20 күн бұрын
Yes so the tax is over 52.75% which eliminates any savings from using a Ltd company. I don’t understand how these guys are making any money given interest rates are higher, fees are higher and accountancy costs are higher for Ltd companies…
@tf2368
@tf2368 20 күн бұрын
@@andrewfallon2719I think it makes much more sense when you don’t have a mortgage
@andrewfallon2719
@andrewfallon2719 20 күн бұрын
@@tf2368 if you didn’t have a mortgage your tax bill would be even higher, although ofcourse this would be offset by the lack of a mortgage payment. Mortgages are kind of the main way to build up a portfolio, without them and you’d be stuck on 1 house.
@SycAamore
@SycAamore 20 күн бұрын
@@andrewfallon2719 Do you really believe what these KZfaqrs are preaching? Don't forget that their main income is from very expensive courses and KZfaq traffic, NOT from owning properties...
@rajjai
@rajjai 20 күн бұрын
I do wonder what’s the longevity of LTD? Whilst it sounds good now, what about the next 5-10 years when government changes continue to happen. I know we can’t foresee this but I just hope it’s not a temporary opportunity
@damiantomas895
@damiantomas895 18 күн бұрын
Thx
@SycAamore
@SycAamore 20 күн бұрын
I really don't who in his right mind will want to still invest in UK property after 4th of July...Labour already indicated that they'll double the CGT tax, there could be rent controls across the UK and progressive tax on each additional property. Plus they will make even stronger pro-tenant laws...
@pancratovcernii
@pancratovcernii 21 күн бұрын
Thank you for your video, just wanted to check if dividends allowance reduced to 500£ a year now .
@ThatAhmedKhan
@ThatAhmedKhan 20 күн бұрын
Yep correct its £500 for 2024/25 - I should've updated in the video!
@lnwallan1
@lnwallan1 20 күн бұрын
thanks for your video, but i work out diff figure. before s24, u pay inc tax 20% on £450=90. now for low tax rate payer, you pay inc tax on £(1000-200) x 20%=160, but also get 20% tax credit on £350 interest = 70, so the total tax still £90pm. ie profit aft tax is same. am i miss something?
@andrewfallon2719
@andrewfallon2719 20 күн бұрын
Correct the changes only apply to higher rate tax payers
@tradingrules2228
@tradingrules2228 21 күн бұрын
Spot on. What if after paying dividends & claiming back owner's lending money, my expenses are higher than the profit ? Would I still need to pay corporation tax ?
@DivineLove247
@DivineLove247 21 күн бұрын
You can only take Dividends after paying Taxes on your Profits, IF you showing a loss, then Dividend's cannot be taken.
@tradingrules2228
@tradingrules2228 21 күн бұрын
@@DivineLove247 Thank you sir, all noted.
@HH-wd2cn
@HH-wd2cn 20 күн бұрын
On point
@andrewfallon2719
@andrewfallon2719 20 күн бұрын
Surely you could not claim for a car lease if your properties are in the same town as you ? Or could you ?
@Abdullah97484
@Abdullah97484 20 күн бұрын
Why not? There is of course a fair element that a proportion of your car use will be spent on travelling, inspecting properties and operating as a business in travelling to your accountant, property viewing, auctions etc.
@123sumom
@123sumom 21 күн бұрын
Amazing
@ThatAhmedKhan
@ThatAhmedKhan 20 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@robg4868
@robg4868 21 күн бұрын
Can't you deduct the expenses even if it's in your personal name?
@ThatAhmedKhan
@ThatAhmedKhan 21 күн бұрын
Which expenses?
@robg4868
@robg4868 21 күн бұрын
Service charge, repair appliances, maintenance, ground rent, etc.. ​@@ThatAhmedKhan
@robg4868
@robg4868 20 күн бұрын
​@@ThatAhmedKhanservice charge,ground rent,appliances maintenance any amount spent to keep the property at the same standard, including buying new furniture to change the old one if necessary, also are you sure that with the Ltd you can deduct expenses such as the office chairs, I think this is more specific for self employment activities but I might be wrong
@qassaf2181
@qassaf2181 21 күн бұрын
easy just cash out the property
@AJ-qg7xj
@AJ-qg7xj 21 күн бұрын
Interesting video, but I think your calculations are not right. When you rent a property through SPV company, only the interest is treated as expense not the entire repayment monthly amount. Can you explain why you said the entire repayment amount is deductible?
@domever7899
@domever7899 20 күн бұрын
Property investors usually have interest only mortgages, so that is the entire mortgage repayment
@AJ-qg7xj
@AJ-qg7xj 20 күн бұрын
@@domever7899 That makes sense, however you should have said clearly in your video. Anyway interest only loans are not easy. At the moment these type of landlords are making nothing because of the interest rate and can go bankrupt very easily.
@domever7899
@domever7899 20 күн бұрын
@@AJ-qg7xj Most certainly, there is a risk should the economy take a turn for the worse and interest rates shoot up substantially. However, I would have at a guess that we would have huge problems elsewhere before that happens!
@ads-porewealth96
@ads-porewealth96 20 күн бұрын
Time to leave the uk I think
@SycAamore
@SycAamore 20 күн бұрын
Yeah, definitely, and that's also coming from someone who is earning six figures. If you can work remote, I absolutely recommend leaving the UK...
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