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The section about "Being excited for Forspoken because it slightly resembled something close to inFAMOUS" hit WAY too close home 😔

I hate it when a game does "you have to play XX hours until it gets good" move. Early hours should be the most important factor for people sticking to the game.

"Did I just really shut down a studio with my mind?"

one funny thing is that the team behind Forspoken approached Brandon Sanderson (a very famous fantasy writer) to see if he was interested in working with them. Offer that he had to say no to due to already being involved with another video game (Moonbreaker) and being busy with his own projects so in an alternative world the writing of the game or at least the construction of the world could have been so much better

It's a shame we'll never see what happens in the sequel, Fivespoken.

Forspoken is one of those games where any positives it has are pushed out the window by having a badly written protagonist. Why would I want to engage with any of the potentially good gameplay if I can't stand the character I am going to be controlling for the entirety of it?

My favorite thing about this game is that, as someone who played Final Fantasy XV, they didn't even TRY to hide the fact they reused a ton of stuff from it. Many animations are taken straight from Noctis's moveset, it's also the other game that looks near identical to Forspoken and is also the only other Square Enix title with the same floaty movement and extremely flashy magic. Which REALLY begs the question of why the game requires a NASA supercomputer to run at times when it's so identical to Final Fantasy XV.

I don’t even feel like the world itself is memorable. It just looks so bland and empty

Caught me off guard lol 22:27. Great video as always

The problem with forspoken is that you can't ask people to keep playing if the gameplay only kicks in 5 hours in, or if the character acts like garbage until 12 hours in the game. That's ludicrous. Could you imagine? "Oh, this series of movies gets good in the 4th entry", "this book gets going in the 300th page" or "This tv series gets good in the 8th episode". Ok, what it is doing then until it gets good besides wasting the time of the people engaging with it? Any media, be a book, movie, videogame, needs to put its best content first, because the creator of that media needs to prove to the audience that his work is worth their time. When a creator put the worst part first, it's his own fault that the audience walked away. The internet making fun of it is a minor point because most people don't watch internet critics, they just want a good game, and if they go to youtube to see gameplay, and the first 2 hours is a garbage character, throwing rocks at zombies, in a game that runs terribly, of course nobody is going to buy it.

what was that about my mom?!

It's a bit funny listening to the characters talk about all these "Tanta" characters, when "Tanta" is how you say "Aunty" in Norwegian 😆

My favorite part is when John Forspoken shows up and says "I'm walkin here!"

1 year??? I thought it was at least 3

Forspoken has some incredible presentation but the story was just all over the place. You had brief moments where the narrative was good like the illusion world where Frey has to deal with those "ending" thoughts. Or when she opens up to Cuff about how she was adopted by a loving person. That person ended up marrying someone and having a kid but Frey says she abandoned her and never touched on it again. Did that woman abandon her or did Frey run away? They could've run with things like that to highlight why she doesn't trust people, how she's lost the will to live, or simply doesn't want to kill. To me what's worse was the narrative was predictable. Like how Frey is immune to the break or how Cuff was actually using her. In fact, that was another point that could've been used. Frey doesn't want to kill Cuff and you can hear it from her dialogue, have the same with Cuff. Give him the upper hand in the finale and have it that he can't do it. Have him question his purpose that he was told to hate the Tantas but after being with her he doesn't know what to believe. And yeah, the father part was just laughable. It's a lot of what could've been but at the end this is what it is.

I'm going to be honest here man, the price point of games now and days are how I judge how much it's worth for me. If Forspoken charged $40 or something then I don't think it would have gotten nearly as much flak as it has. But being a $70 raises expectations to the roof. The flintlock game that's releasing soon I wrote off the second I saw it since I assumed it was another generic $70 overpriced game, but after learning they're charging $40 I'm actually going to roll the dice and give it a shot. Game publishers serious just needs to stop spending $100+ million dollars on games and start letting their big studios work on smaller more experimental projects. People want to pay games, people just don't want to break the bank and find the game they brought turns out to be mediocre at best.

BROOKLYN BACKSHOTS BABY

More like Forgotten: 1 year later

Damn, the "because I love games" is really how I approach every game. There's very few games that I had truly got to despise, but for most of them I really can get SOMETHING out of every one of them.

The gravity rush scene😭 u made me sad bc I know there will never be a 3rd game😔also did u make a vid about gravity rush?

Another thing I wish they could have perhaps experimented with was the idea that Frey wanted to leave, not because she's a stubborn douche, but because it's all she knows and it terrifies her being in a new world, being overcome with such huge responsibility. Her overcoming that fear and ending with her embracing her role and her new home

6:28 - Hey, that's me!

Square Enix even owns the Nier series and doesn't look towards Weiss and Nier for their interactions when this game could've been so much better for it

You know even if the protagonist wasn't awful, It wouldn't have mattered because the REST of the characters also weren't that great and the setting was boring, generic, and lifeless

This video is why I enjoy Aqua's content, he doesn't exactly jump on the game, calling it bad or cringe, he gives the game a chance, something most people don't do, and is the type of criticism i enjoy, for a example in my case, I really don't like DMC2, but I enjoy my time, and the ideas are good, but everything else is bad Yes, the good is overshadowed by the bad, but the bad shouldn't make your decision, sometimes, even a bad game is good, and a good game is bad, the question is, how much can you handle it? Just because a line upsets you, doesn't exactly make the game bad objectively, a line is 1% of a game, not 100% of it, something Aqua remember and this video and game is the example, it is flawed, but even a flaw game has a silver lining

I am glad people like you exist. Your channel is a constant reminder that you can be fair towards a game. You can be negative and positive when needed. When it is right to be either on. And not when its convenient or beneficial to be.

29:40 I have to refute this point about difficulty, my issue was there was too many options to see balance in difficulty for me. You could disable/enable aim assist, spell swap bullet time, auto evasion, auto heal, auto support spell switching. You could increase/decrease how long an enemy stayed knockdown or how much damage you receive. Also how quickly your stamina regens. So no, it isn't as simple "turning up the difficulty only raises their health amount." However you do a really good job explaining how varied combat can be, and the pitfalls you can trap yourself into early on.

Like most people, I laughed at this game for all its failures and shortcomings. But you provided a very nuanced take, a deep dive. Thank you. Appreciate your insights. Is it just me, or does it seem like substantial chunks of the story were cut? Maybe that's why things feel so disjointed, and plot points seem to come out of nowhere, and characters pivot their stances so abruptly at certain points. I think I'll pick this game up when it's on a deep, deep sale, just out of my own morbid curiosity.

"Forspoken legit could be game of the year for me if IT IS ideas are executed well enough" Now I know why GeneralSam makes fun of you, Aqua.

so happy to see you finally posted this video, will be watching after work

Ill be honest… i firmly believe that a faulty start is better than a game falling off towards the end and disappointing me. But i guess i am one of the few who feels that way

🗣️ VIEWFINDER AND GRAVITY RUSH REFERENCED IN THE SAME VIDEO also boy aqua is there ANY chance we are getting nier games videos :) i have a feeling you gonna love em and also interested in your thoughts.

Now that you mention Infamous, I can’t unsee the resemblances in terms of gameplay and movement. I think the philosophies for both are incredibly similar especially in presentation and visuals. The thing is, that’s not a compliment when that series is fairly old relatively speaking. Infamous holds up fairly..okay, don’t get me wrong. But the difference is, I can probably get every installment of Infamous for half the price. And at least for Second Son? The graphics are exceptional, run smoothly, and give an overall good experience. At the time of these games releasing? It was a niche that was incredibly intriguing and it genuinely inspired my own creative endeavors. If it were a much less ambitious project, smaller in scale, price tag, etc. People’s expectations wouldn’t have been nearly as high and the reviews wouldn’t be so intense. You have a background in Square Enix, those high expectations, all the marketing and push and everything that spells potential for something remarkable. But, when the result is an average game? It’s a letdown. Not everything is terrible, but it’s not remarkable. People will remember this game for not hitting that mark. They tried…and if that’s the takeaway then yikes. It’s bleak, but is that not unwarranted for a AAA game? Forspoken is a victim in some aspects, but at the end of the day? It’s also a product no matter how you look at it. And if the product doesn’t look appealing enough to buy, does that mean that I failed as a consumer to recognize the potential? I mean, maybe! But I don’t think that’s the takeaway we should have. I hope the developers will find other projects, better ones even where their talents are utilized to the fullest. I hope corporations get their act together and start focusing on our entertainment and pushing boundaries instead of prioritizing live service monetization. I hope audiences can form actual opinions for themselves instead of relying on others to make it for them. But, the reality is the product. And, in this case, the product genuinely speaks for itself. Optimistically, I think this game is just going to be another stepping stone for the actual game that can hit the mark. A 70$ investment, you could even say lololol. But, at face value, it’s a high priced average experience. There’s plenty of room for average experiences and I don’t mind an average experience every so often. FNAF Security Breach proved to me that even a poorly designed game can be SO entertaining and fun that it earns the price tag through its uniquely..interesting experience alone. But, this one doesn’t strike me as that. Subjectively, it’s null because we all have our tastes and preferences. It’s silly to argue that, so I won’t. To close, ahem. I can move shit with my freaking mind!

I think you missed the mark on the character Frey. Your issues with Frey feel unusual with the MoneyBag and “I want to go home”. This is extremely real life behaviour. Especially emotionally unstable people. Frey would likely have mad depression in real life. Should that be announced or inferred through the game?

"tanta cinta"? so much tape (in spanish) that sounds funny too

I enjoyed the game for what it is. It's not perfect, but it's also not terrible.

nah fuck this game $70 hell nah just paly a better game that's worth your money and time

The problem with this game is that is not even fine to begin with. Like if someone wants to enjoy the game good for them, but don't act like a bad story, unlikeable main characters, inestable performance, cheeseable gameplay don't affect the opinion of most people. Hell, the writers of the game said that this was not how the game was supposed to be. Forspoken deserves to be an example of all of what not to do with a game.

I’m glad KZfaq content creators are now comfortable using sonic unleashed OST’s😀😀! One of the best OST’s for a Sonic game

I was so excited for this game… a game with just magic as the weapon? A new IP. The character traversal looked great; it flows, it’s quick, and it allows vertical movement. The visuals on the trailer with the magic being used was great. I don’t have twitter so I wasn’t watching negative hate hype. I will say that because I don’t have a lot of free income, I did watch gameplay. 1. My computer (we just bought) isn’t good enough to run this game… 2. The cuff didn’t stop talking, ever. While some of the dialogue was silly, that didn’t really bother me, the constant chatter did. The other thing that I saw as I watched gameplay was that it didn’t seem like exploration did anything for the player other than show off pretty environments. So, if I could play this game, I would have waited to pick it up on sale. I think this game was set up to fail.

Im still of the opinion that the parent twist would have been more interesting if the sussur was frey's dad, and the trups to new york were a deliberate act that cinta took to break his confinement temporarily. And he kept his true motives hidden from her until she gave birth and he went with frey because he knew what she could do.

I don't think the dialogue in the demo were bad. If a 16 yr old got a magic cuff would they be like " this power that's bestowed upon me is near limitlessness and blah blah" No, they would be like " holy shit did I just fly?" Fuck I would react like that.

Forsaken intrigues me in a way no game I actually like does

The particle effects in the game were extremley good. That's all the game gets lol

This is some good shit.

Another thing I belief holds back the game is that the second set of maguc comes way to late. People already used 1 magic for quite a bit and most likely got to used to using one at a time instead of getting another quickly and using them in tandem. Also I'm not sure if the game incentivices people enough to mix magic instead of just spamming what enemies are vulnerable to.

“sus”-erus is a bit on the nose for a villain name 😂

I got this game due to a buy 1 get one sale at game stop, so I bought like a dragon ishin and forspoken because it was the only thing that I was curious about from that sale. Forspoken went from "welp got it for free I'll play it after ishin" to me beating forspoken before finishing ishin. I enjoyed the gameplay, lot of neat stuff with the whole magic system and I enjoyed leveling up the abilities via challenges. Story is for sure meh at a lot of points, but i turned my brain off and did a lot of battles that kept me enjoying the game since the gameplay was all I cared about and was fun for me. I will say the tanta cats are cute as heck, best part of the game.

the term is "seamless transition" when a cutscene transition into gameplay in a seamless way

The only exposure I have to this game is the Oneyplays play though a while ago

I know the developers denied it, but the Agni's Philosophy tech demo for the Luminous engine looked like such a cool concept and I think Forspoken was once that.

Pausing at 11 minutes in just to say that you in fact do not need to finish a game to figure out that it's simply not good. If you aren't enjoying the game and it's been bad for the first half of it then it's pretty safe to say the second half isn't going to be much better. Could it be an absolute homerun of a second half? Sure it COULD be, but normal people aren't going to stick with it and waste the small amount of free time that they have, they'll simply drop it and play something more enjoyable.

No! Your supposed to say the game sucks, and is the worst thing ever made. 0/10 doesn't conform with my views

You can berate people for being too hasty with judging game by trailer, yet it turned out to be correct judgment

We are so back

That "but much like your mother, it's beauty lies in its backside" line caught me so off guard, my drink came out my nose. Subscribed

49:27 to be fair, if YOU got teleported to some mysterious magical world you knew nothing about, wouldn't you just wanna go back home? Even if your home situation is bad, familiarity is better than mystery

You know, that line never bothered me. I actually (gasp) liked it. I didn't play the game, because all the gameplay reviews I saw were negative.

The ending sums up perfectly why not only this channel is one of my favorites on KZfaq, you're also one of my favorite creators to follow. While recognizing your biases and what will make you look positively or negatively at things, you also try hard to give games a fair chance, and to be fair and complete in your reviews. I just find it lovely. That's something I find awesome with your content, and it gives me a more human and personal look at a game than someone like Whitelight might usually give (I fucking love Whitelight as well y'all are the goats).

Around the 1 hr mark you question why the dragon attacks frey. I dont think the tanta recognized who she was, only that someone arrived wearing the cuff and attacked for the cuffs presence

The lines on 5:37 didnt kill the game the bad story and bad main character did. If the game was truely good the lines in the clip would have only been remembered as something funny about the game. Sometimes a game is just bad and this is one of those games.

bro nobody wants a "middle of the road" SEVENTY DOLLAR game tho

NAH, "Brooklyn Backshots" is WILD 💀53:46

There's a lot of us that actually really enjoyed the story and characterization. Frey has a very abrasive personality, but the fun was seeing how she grew as a person throughout the game, learning to accept responsibility instead of running from it, while not completely abandoning her hard ass attitude that in the end helped her be able to deal with and contain Susurrus and his "insidious bothering" tactic that worked on the previous Tantas. The DLC story did a great job clearing up some mystery of the origins of the Break, but also set up a really intriguing hook for a sequel that we most likely will never see due to the negative reception.

The fuck do you mean this game is a year old already???

For me, Square Enix is just another once legendary studio that has fallen pretty hard over the years. They took years to make this game, that in the end, would only impress the CEO of Ubisoft. I can’t believe they made this instead of another Deus Ex. Oh never mind, they sold that off smh.

i feel so bad for ella balinska, she is a good actress that is just getting trash role after trash role, first that terrible charlies angles film, then that awful resident evil show, and now forspoken. she deserves alot better

forspoken is a MASTERPIECE and anyone who disagree is right

If this game had a new game plus I'd play it from beginning to end because i enjoyed it. The exploration and getting manna to level up made get stronger so much easier. The running and jumping and feeling like a super sayin was dope

Massive difference between Frey being unlikable and Joel being unlikable is understanding We see Joel losing his daughter and then world going to crap, with the world being hostile he makes perfect sense Even then you can see small hints that he does still care deep inside Frey doesn't seem to like or care about people because society has always been crap to her, but going to a different world where you are essentially the most important individual, the world is in peril with you it's only hope and coup de grâce comes when Audens father has died and she pleads for her world Frey says she doesn't give a crap because: The world she came from was bad So she doesn't care about this one and wants to return to the world thats bad Most people have zero idea where she's coming from or how she operates and with every element being bad, why continue? As much as you like the gameplay at the end it does not matter when the game has nothing to stand on in the beginning and while the game has nothing to stand on early markerting still crippled it further Reason TLOU 1 will always be remembered is because of the story and characters

I really enjoyed Forspoken, played it almost day 1 and had a really good time with the movement, powers and even the story and characters, I don't know, it was a game that just "clicked" with me, even with the parts that, I agree, weren't that well executed. But, it was really sad seeing sooo many content creators putting the game on their list of worst of the year like ???, even the people that ACTUALLY finished it said it was mid, but still put it in the worst of the worst. I think that said more about themselves than it did about Forspoken imo. Great video!!

DEI (sweet baby inc) vomit

I liked the game. It’s near not the worst game of the recent years.

I personally and honestly don't have a problem with or see what's wrong with the "Did I just do that?" dialogue. I actually liked that scene. I feel like it was one of those things where someone popular says they don't like something and everyone else just follow suit.

I have lost count at how many times I've seen someone on youtube play a game and it made me want to play it too. I watched someone else play Foreskin too and I didin't even finish the let's play.

I never understood why people hated this game so much, I love this game and it sucks cause I can barely find any content around it, also I have no idea why the "I just move shit with my freaking mind" is hated so much, I enjoy it, looking at her in that moment makes me excited cause shes excited by it

Dude, I just found your channel and feel so represented. I haven't played this game yet, but I feel exactly the same as you about that whole "love or hate" thing. And I feel really represented when you said you like this game just because you just....like videogames. Nice video, nice line of thought, can't wait to see your next videos. Good job!

It seems all the depth of the game's combat comes from the endgame, I found the game to kind of hard due to the fact that the parkour and roll button are mapped to the same button meaning no dedicated dodge button which is what I strongly dislike in games. Infamous Second Son at least gave you a dedicated dash button. The enemies were also damage sponges too but this could've been because I didn't switch my powers enough. I also found the terrain flat and boring since there were no building to climb up. I don't really dislike this game but everything about it just seems like the devs thought, a "medieval superhero game sounds cool" but kind of just run around in circles when making it. I also feel like if there were more Infamous games, I would be harsher on Forspoken. I also played the game on PS5 which probably helped my experience, honestly, can't picture myself playing on PC outside of emulators and sometimes playing an indie game.

19:23 - why does this character look so much better than the player's character?

“The trailer didn’t bother me but…” it bothered 99% of people. Even in comments on positive videos of the game people were ridiculing it. It didn’t look good and that’s ignoring the dialogue, except for some of the visual effects. And it wasn’t that one line that made it a laughing stock but all of the dialogue in the trailer. It set such an awful tone that people didn’t like. That one line was representative of the tone set by the trailers that had other lines of dialogue like “freakin dragons!!!” That one line wasn’t the only thing and I never saw it out of context, but usually the entire sentence, but I wouldn’t doubt if it went viral on Twitter with that one line. But that one line did adequately represent the trailer and other lines were arguably worse.

1:23 for what it's worth, I was lucky I only saw one random thing about Forspoken and forgot about it. The brief glimpse felt very much like something I'd love. Months later, I find out that it was worth missing. But don't feel bad. We all get pulled in sometime.

We making it out of Athia with this one! Thank god for that 😅

Wow. You're such a breath of fresh air in a landscape of overly negative gaming discourse. Keep being awesome.

I feel like this game DEFINITELY was in large part a victim of general backlash to 'marvel humour' or 'whedon humour' or whatever else you wanna call it, the game just happened to run afoul of that wider distaste imo. A general perception that movies and some games too had become irony-poisoned and filled with jokes that sort of insecurely tried to position themselves as above the goofiness of their premise by going 'lol look how stupid and dumb and unrealistic this is, we're self-aware and ironic about it!!'. So that trailer, filled with that dialogue, especially the one segment that was seen as similar to the infamous 'They fly now!' bit from Star Wars everyone hated and so on and so forth, I think you're right it killed the game's hype. Especially as the trend had begun of chatty hold-the-player's-hand dialogue in games, I think a lot of people assumed it was going to be nonstop ironic quips and were instantly soured on the game from there on out.

KZfaqrs overreacting to stuff just because that's the way they're expected to react is so tiring and annoying... (I'm talking about the clips of people reacting to the game itself and just putting faces during the dialogue)

Love to see your work.

I literally couldn't remember the name of this game yesterday when I was trying to compare the environment to another game lol

I got Forspoken as a Christmas gift and didn't play it for months, mostly due to the poor reviews it had gotten. Once I finally did sit down and devote some time to it, I found a game that felt rough in places but was also surprisingly fun in others, especially as you progressed through it. I didn't like the overly-chatty dialogue or some of the more obvious story beats, but I loved that you could just go around and take pictures if you wanted, or go find a bunch of weird cats - and finding ALL the weird cats resulted in a moment of genuine surprise. And surfing over water through a magical surfboard (once you learned that ability) felt amazing - almost as good as Spider-Man swinging through NYC. Forspoken is definitely not a masterpiece, and that's a bummer considering all the work and talent that went into it. But it can be fun if you let it be.

The Forsaken Review I've always wanted. I always got the vibe that a lot of the videos on KZfaq were too band wagony, or came from voices I respected very little (or none at all). I wanted a voice I can use when I'll eventually see this thing in the bargain bin and think, is it worth a lunch in cost? God knows I can tolerate shit in media if the good, how little there may be, can vibe with me. I think I finally got it. I'm not surprised the bad out weighed the good, I feel that if this game was actually an underated gem I would've heard someone say by now, but it's nice to see a review that doesn't feel like the game personally offended the content creator. Will I buy it? Depends on how cheap I'll eventually see it and how starved I am of games at the time I guess. We'll see how the coin flips if that ever happens.

I like the cut of Aqua's Jib. I, too, sometimes like bad things.

This review brings to light some of the issues gamers have as a whole, very well put together. Something you didn't mention is that it's not just money investment but also time investment. Games have just gotten too big.

I played this game bro I'm not gonna go out of my way to say it's perfect but going in I saw magic I saw running around parcouring and I told myself ya I'm gonna enjoy this this game was fun the story wasn't really interesting the world empty but the was actually the point of the game we were the only person that could go out so it was fine the game was really fun to play if you just care about actually playing a game and not listening to what people say I platinumed it it was worth it.

I know Amy Hennig from Legacy of Kain, which is a series people should actually play if they like stories.

you can say this exact video on "Flintlock: The Siege of Dawn " and just change the images and words of "Forspoken" LMAOO like THE SAME STORY WITH THE SAME VIDEO, this video

No one deserves a sequel for their preformance, you neep to earn it with your performance

PLEASE FEED US INFAMOUS FANS WE WILL SELL OUR LEFT KIDNEY AND THE RIGHT

This game written by Westerners and programmed by Easterners and it shows it in every single second. If Square Enix trusted their own writers this game could've had some chance. Shame.

Can't believe that I just watched an hour long game analysis video. Your takes are so intriguing that I stayed and watched the whole thing. I was the same as you, I was so hyped when I first saw Forspoken title teaser vid with the changing elements and stuff because I love magic fantasy. Then I got very skeptical at its release due to the amount of hate it was getting so I waited for a few days to see if it was just nonsense or if it were justified. Long story short, I didn't touch the game and just watched vids about its contents like playthroughs and reviews. I don't wanna end up getting frustrated to the game because I really like it and I'm afraid that if I play it, I might hate it too.

I honestly really fucking enjoyed forspoken tbh