How will history judge the outgoing Porsche 992.1 911? SIX-YEAR REVIEW!

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Porsche has announced the new 911 (992.2) will officially launch on May 28th. Ahead of the new 911's grand reveal (and the first road 911 to feature hybrid technology), I look back on the life and legacy of the outgoing current model, the 992.1. Featuring the values story, production problems, plus the styling and tech of the 992 all discussed, plus there's a look at what I'd like to see changed when the 992.2 launches.
How do you think history will judge the 992.1?
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@billnorblat4047 Ай бұрын

Once the world realizes the 992.1 was the last 911 you could get with a manual, and they're all hybrids, Id say it will be looked upon as the pinnacle.

@Bavariaria Ай бұрын

My dealer thinks they WILL offer a manual 992.2, although not among the first few trims they release. There is some documentation suggesting that there will be a non-hybrid 3 liter turbo variant with a tiny bump in power vs the 992.1 base motor. But I agree, these cars will hold their value incredibly well. To me, 991 is the pinnacle of engineering/tech/performance in a 911, as it still feels the right size and has a rawness that the 992 lacks. But the 992 is an incredible piece of engineering and virtually faultless on paper.

@billnorblat4047 Ай бұрын

We'll see. Mine was certain there wont be except with the possibility of the GT3. And that likely will be smaller than 4.0L.

@HiddenWen Ай бұрын

And the last one with some "analogue" features such as that analogue tach. I'm keeping my 992.1 forever. But I hope the 992.2 will be just as awesome of a car for future enthusiasts.

@WFO. Ай бұрын

My ‘24 992 GTS Coupe is being built right now. Ordered it with a seven speed manual. I’m stoked for the car. 🏁🇺🇸

@WFOSA67 Ай бұрын

The best 911 is the model you can afford. Then the next one catches your eye and the love affair continues with another😉

@Futureprooffill Ай бұрын

Very well said

@markupton3297 21 күн бұрын

Totally agree. I’m lucky enough to have had quite a few. From my first 996 tip through to g series targa, 997 s, 964’s, 993 Carreras and even a 993 turbo. I now have a manual 992 Carrera s. I have loved every minute of driving all of them. Cost and model range is irrelevant. It’s what suits your life and budget at the time. Enjoy the drive…..

@kszendi Ай бұрын

Love the 992. Front end looks better and love the widebody! Looks great lowered

@swayp5715 28 күн бұрын

I agree and the one strip light at the back on the 992 is much sexier than the lights on the 911! The lights at the back of the 911 look quite dated now.

@crazypaupau Ай бұрын

As a car enthusiast, 911 has always been my dream car since childhood; There will always be better and faster 911s in the future; However, the 992.1 might be the last generation with pure internal combustion engine and the iconic central analog tachometer; As a result, I’m taking the allocation of 911T in July, tentatively to be delivered in September; regardless of the quote unquote base engine, it’s more than enough for me to enjoy on public roads, to actually “drive/ push” the car on mountain passes! I will try best to keep this 911T for tens of years; and then when the whole world becomes silent because of the EVs, I can fire up the flat 6, listen to the imperfect exhaust sound and take it for a spin!

@GTSCarLife Ай бұрын

Spot on as usual, Lee. It's nice hearing someone else with the insight and honesty, point out flaws such as the awful door handles, unsightly rear end design and more when the common practice for automotive journalists is to overlook these design choices and only praise the typical Porsche strengths. One add, we here in America do NOT like the new, bloated and oversized models any more than you in the U.K. The actual reason Porsche has had to make the newer 911s so enormous is actually because of all the new government requirements for emissions, safety and other equipment. The basic shape of a 911 leaves little room to add these things in, beside up over the engine. As these things get piled on, the height of the rear deck rises and that necessitates all the other areas being increased to maintain something that still resembles a traditional 911 shape. Another great video! Cheers.

@isentra5478 Ай бұрын

The 992.1 will become a hugely desired car in the future. It’s likely to be the last purely petrol 911 generally. Weight will come with the hybrid models as will complexity and battery issues in the long term. The 992.1 will become as desirable as a 964 & 993 !! Watch this space.

@onechopbuddy3849 Ай бұрын

I hope you’re right I’m hanging on to my targa 4s

@meady200 Ай бұрын

In the slightly longer medium term, I think battery tech will actually make EV cars lighter than ICE. Will be interesting to see how values play out.

@detonator2112 29 күн бұрын

I seriously doubt it will be as desirable. They made about 130.000 964's and 993's COMBINED. And very large part of them are cabrios. Of course we don't know the final production numbers of 992 yet as it's still going for years to come, but they made 233,540 units of 991 ALONE. Those numbers already tell that these new models will never be as desirable as 964 and 993.

@Bavariaria Ай бұрын

For the last 12 months, I was dead set on a 992 Carrera T with Aero Kit (otherwise a pretty stripped down spec). When it came time to pull the trigger, I sat in one for an hour at my dealership. My gut just didn’t feel right. I was overwhelmed by how posh and done-up the cabin had become, as well as its size. Porsche has truly perfected the do-everything sports car with the 992, but it just doesn’t feel like the 911s I have owned or grown to love so much over the years. I then sat in a Cayman GTS 4.0 and it felt perfect to me. From the driver’s seat, it felt the same size as my outgoing 996 Turbo. The driver inputs and interfaces are so simple, and the cabin’s comparative lack of polish was a big plus for me. Just a simple, old fashioned, small, RWD, naturally aspirated, manual sports car with a limited slip diff. I went with the Cayman, which I never in a million years would have guessed for myself. That said, the 992 is epic and I totally understand why so many people love them. It’s truly been perfected in terms of capability and refinement.

@aaronmarks Ай бұрын

I had the same realization and am surprised this isn’t discussed more. I’ve searched KZfaq looking for comparisons between the 992 and 982 4.0 and can’t find any.

@Bavariaria Ай бұрын

@@aaronmarks there actually wasn’t a 4 liter 981 cayman. If you search for comparisons between the 992 and 718 GTS 4.0 you will find some good content. 718 is the latest gen Cayman and the only generation that offers a 4 liter powerplant.

@aaronmarks Ай бұрын

@@Bavariaria the 982 is a 718 😉

@Bavariaria Ай бұрын

@@aaronmarks wow I had no idea!

@smiffyLevel6 Ай бұрын

Recently purchased 718 Cayman GTS and love it, the road holding and speed is immense.

@knn3th Ай бұрын

Lots of 911's were called "the last real 911"... 993 "The last air cooled"; 997 "The last with hydraulic steering"; 991.1 "The last 911 with naturally aspirated engines for all models except 911 Turbo"; 991.2 "The last narrow body"; 992.1 "The last non-hybrid-electric 911".

@VK6AB- 28 күн бұрын

There is some truth to this - however the loss of NA in the Carrera line-up was a hammer blow even tho the blown 3L is a great engine. Lots of soul less german turbos out there, take your pick. I suspect a lot of Porsche owners have moved to other marques or rather have one or two "key" Porsche e.g. GT3 RS and now also own Mclaren and Ferrari. Retention of core customers is a big deal for higher end manufacturers. I suspect they lost a lot of custom from core buyers over the 992. Perhaps they gained a new customer base that can buy multiple new Porsche PA.

@zc2226 28 күн бұрын

Those are just slogans used by second-hand car dealers to sell cars.

@martindean1205 Ай бұрын

Great video again. I have a 991.2 which is peak 911 for me. Against the 992 is looks, size and way too much digital.

@Maxrotor1 Ай бұрын

I will be receiving my Carrara S manual August. This will likely be one of the last 992.1s off of the assembly line.

@markbauwens8033 Ай бұрын

As a current owner of both a 991.1 C4 BE PDK with every sport option and a 992.1 GT3K with every lightweight option: I would make the following observations. 1) The 991 feels a much smaller car. 2) The touch screen in the 992 causes delays in changing settings whilst the 991 settings can be changed more rapidly. 3) The door handles in the 992 are horrid. 4) The dash of the 991 is just about "the same" as my first 911, a 2.4E whilst the 992 dash has more in common with my iPhone 16 Super Max Pro Elite. 5) On narrow winding British country roads I can drive the 991 quicker, apex to apex, than my 992 with 150 BHP more, due to is feel of narrow width and PDK gearbox.

@mark5845 Ай бұрын

love the handles thats my fave part on my 992! super cool , pops out whats not to love! best car Ive ever owned.

@user-jf8gd3lv7q 29 күн бұрын

This guy is talking abolutely crap about the 992 doorhandles! It's even more funny, that at the introduction of the 992, all these KZfaq trashtalkers said nothing negative about things like the doorhandles, or about some other "clunky" things, which he claims in this video. This guy is annoying!

@TheCutter9 28 күн бұрын

I have a 992 GTS and honestly love how the handles pop out when I walk up to the car. I feel like James Bond. Haha.

@9WERKSTV 28 күн бұрын

@@user-jf8gd3lv7q Cheers for watching pal.

@ppeterso22 Ай бұрын

I think the 992 is an engineering marvel! But I prefer the looks of the 991-especially out back and the dash. I have a 993 and many complained about that design originally but it won people over. I wanted to add a new P-Car but preferred the 718 BGTS4.0 and went with that.

@smiles1151 20 күн бұрын

Should have waited to do this video after the 992.2 launch. 992.1 is looking a lot better now.

@marios_gavrilis Ай бұрын

Hot take: 992.1 will be seen as the most epic modern 911.

@homefink2235 Ай бұрын

I have an other opinion about the Design of the 992. For me the interior of the 992 went back to the earlier eras of the 911. It's horizontal designed and very similiar to the Design of the aircooled ones. Witch were one of the greatest cockpit designs ever made. Also the back of the 991 ist a little boring and unstructured. I Like the Front of the 992. Because of the shape of the hood and the frontline, which goes back to 993 shape. I agree with you, that a smaller Body wasn't offered. I drive a 964 targa, a 996 Turbo and I see a lot of reminiscence to them in my 992 c4. Thanks fir another great review.

@johnjacobs9753 13 күн бұрын

His complaints are some of my favorite parts. The wide body, the recessed door handles, etc. are some of my favorite design elements. The 992.1 is the best looking of the modern 911’s to me. I love mine!

@foxx1111 Ай бұрын

Our T was delivered Friday. Waiting on ppi and some other bits before collection next month. Must have looked out with the run out, been specced with some options "we couldnt have". Full aerokit, spyder rs wheels in pyro red, carbon roof, carbon mirrors, carbon buckets, gt3 skirts, lightweight pack, rws, manual.

@Nahpets83 Ай бұрын

The 992 is an iconic evolution of the 911 and it certainly has its strengths. For me, however, it is too "obese", less elegant and vaguely reminiscent of the Panamera only as a two-seater. In addition, the sound suffered greatly in Europe due to the OPF. Digitality is contemporary but also currently. soulless. I favor the 991.2. In my opinion the peak of the 911.

@onechopbuddy3849 Ай бұрын

It’s definitely not soulless that’s a little harsh it’s not a VW Passat 😂

@Futureprooffill Ай бұрын

I actually think the 911 peaked with the 997.

@derekwhoelse8359 Ай бұрын

Fully agreed!

@Futureprooffill Ай бұрын

Then again I’m biased. 😅

@theonlywinner 29 күн бұрын

I'm totally happy with my 992. Yeah, it was bigger than my Cayman by 2 inches, yes it has a big butt, but it drives crazy good and handles crazy good. And it looks sexy as hell. Just my opinion.

@charliegrech5598 Ай бұрын

Another really nice presentation Lee, well done. The 992.1, overall very attractive vehicle to the general public. However, as an 911 enthusiast, too big!!!, not a fan of the electronic dials, or silly door handles. I really do hope the size stops increasing.

@Stangoguy Ай бұрын

I've had my 992 T for 6 months. It's great to drive and handles well with plenty of power. Dislikes are the handles, and the fact that you have to use the touch screen far too much.. Bring back more buttons, which you can use without distractions.

@varnazari6553 27 күн бұрын

The 992 is a fantastic car. I'm in love with mine. It’s not really fair to compare it against other generations of 911. You have to compare it to what else is available today. And there is nothing more gratifying to drive out there. As a bonus, for the first time since the 964 the 911 finally has an interior that’s not hideous. It also retains the magic rear engine handling characteristics, but just smoothed out in a modern way. Steering is a little bit over filtered for me but it still gives me the exact information I need to slide the car comfortably. The handling balance is amazing although the grip level is a bit too high for my taste. It's also not suited for UK roads from what I keep hearing because of its size. But the UK is not suited for cars or car reviews so every opinion from this island should be taken with a grain of salt

@pjetrs Ай бұрын

I think the exterior design of this car really shines in its most aggressive looking editions. I've seen the homoligated GT3s on the Ring and those looked absolutely stunning, especially with the LED backlight. Just futuristic madness. The BMW M4 has the same thing, on the street the grille looks so out of place (mostly because of the license plate), but on track with all the extra aero and downforce elements it looks so aggressive and mean. On the street it's indeed a bit too much of a comfortable looking car in its stance and mostly shines as Targa in my opinion. It really looks clunky next to older generations though

@Des911 Ай бұрын

Great video and description Lee!!!!

@lkearney7299 26 күн бұрын

I still prefer the 991.2 generation, with the better looks overall, as well as the more analogue instruments and normal door handles.

@911aircooled5 Ай бұрын

Very very good summary Lee. For history sake, being a air-cooled guy for many years, I hated when Porsche went water. Now I have owned 4, and love them, but still the 993Turbo and 993C2S were the best ever regular 911s, IMO (not counting 73RS, GT2s, etc). Now we are at the end of petrol (water cooled) engines, things will change and not for the better, just the end of an era and we all have to go with it. The best water 911 is the 991.2, as you stated, looks, performance, cabin, etc. I enjoy my 992GT3, but it's not a keeper.....sadly.

@varinvajanapornsand8960 11 күн бұрын

Bought a 2023 992.1 c2s in gt silver with Sports Design front and rear. Came with quad tailpipes with Sports Tailpipes in silver. No irritating PSE. Best looking 911 inside and out, wide body and all. Wish only dash came with more digital gauges like the 991.2 and less digital.

@herme99 Ай бұрын

I have a 996 and a 964, both of which are keepers. I went to see the Dakar as the idea of it appealed, but I was surprised at how big it was.

@theopapathanasiou1261 28 күн бұрын

How big and how expensive for what it is…

@abagley2334 Ай бұрын

For me the 992.1 exterior design will not go down as one of the more attractive, interesting designs compared to previous generations, the rear end especially.

@user-uv7ir5zj4p Ай бұрын

Light is right so as a lucky G50 and 997.1C2S owner, my favorite 992 would be the T, as GT3 remain out of reach and certainly more track than road friendly. Insightful video, thank you for sharing your educated POV with the Porsche community

@DPCcars 28 күн бұрын

The Carrera T version is gaining popularity rapidly.

@stevemyers2092 Ай бұрын

making them larger to accept the battery packs...

@jwess1234 18 күн бұрын

@9WERKSTV thanks for the video! Are those "Satin Platinum" colored wheels?

@JuanAdam12 Ай бұрын

IMO this debate is entirely subjective based on the individuals’ reference points. My 992T is my first 911, with my 987.2 as my only P-car reference point. I think it’s a fantastic machine. And though I appreciate earlier 911s, I think they’re irrelevant except to use as style guides and lineage trackers. As far as the digital elements… it’s 2024. Nothing wrong with hi-res maps, CarPlay, etc. I just did a 12-hour drive in the car and those distractions were quite welcome to me. Door handles? I touch them once/drive.

@TobyD Ай бұрын

Great summary Lee - as you say, lots of the fundamentals are great. Let down by some questionable design features which hopefully they fix with .2 👍

@sja9836 Ай бұрын

From my 3.8 991 S I miss my brilliant cup holders! And I don't know why on my 992 C4S the dash makes viewing the trip/fuel display nigh on impossible. Perhaps in my Macan Turbo daily drive it's more important. Great episode, keep it up!

@warrenlucier5796 Ай бұрын

My personal preference is a couple of generations back. I have a 2010 987.2 Cayman S and really liked when the 997.2 911 GTS arrived, as that would be my 911 choice. The MA1/9a1 engine family has proven itself to be quite robust and is still used in the Turbo, GT3 & GT2. Hope some changes come about to avoid the electrification of all automobiles.

@paullowen2707 Ай бұрын

Great insight lee as always !

@lkearney7299 26 күн бұрын

The manual 'box in the 991.2 is very good, as Porsche implemented improvements over the 991.1 version.

@alanwayte432 Ай бұрын

I Had 991.2 S, then purchased a 992 S, but could not get on with it, I purchased a late model 991.2 T and prefer it, I also own a 997.2 GTS which I will never sell❤

@Futureprooffill Ай бұрын

997.2 gts is definately a keeper. Bravo!

@JulienFruchier Ай бұрын

Current 992.1 T owner here. It's my 14th 911. I bought the 992 after a year and a half looking for the right 991.2 T to no avail. I love the car but I've been driving a 3.2 Carrera for the past three days and I have to say, as capable, agile and light as the 992 is (with a proper spec), it's still GT sized and I often find myself wondering if I should keep looking for the smaller 991.2. I too hate the bubble rear bumper and didn't feel like paying Porsche $5k for different looking plastic so I ordered it in black to hide the black plastic. As for the hybridization, I bet GT cars remain ICE and so will at least the T. The 992 has proven there is strong appetite for manuals, a market Porsche seems to have cornered, and I doubt they'll leave that significant market on the table. Pics of the 992.2 Carrera with what appears to be the SD package looks GT3Tesque and quite sexy.

@alexbrodie2930 Ай бұрын

Great video Lee! 🙌🏽

@a-verybasic2 Ай бұрын

Completely subjective appearances, the 992.1 will go down as all other 911’s, an amazing sports car in its time. Jmo

@MostCedric 28 күн бұрын

The most elegant modern 911, the last 911 with real speedometer.

@colin5577 5 күн бұрын

I had a 992.1 T on order but cancelled it when Porsche hiked the price by ten grand and then stated that the hike was merely to “ensure even greater profitability”. I already had reservations about the 992.1 and preferred a lot of the details in my 991.2. Having just seen the 992.2, I suspect that the 991.2 is where new 911s end for me. After nearly 30 years. Damn. Now what?

@zTheBigFishz 29 күн бұрын

992 vs 991.2 track front is ~3% wider, rear track is less than 1% wider. Overall width of the wide bodies is the same as is the length. The front track width increase results in a pointier front end than previous models. Weight is a wash for the wide bodies there is a slight increase in Base weight due the universal wide body across the range. Fact is, it one didn't know the 992 was slightly bigger one would have no idea it was larger. Calling bloated is absurd.

@louiscipollo7766 28 күн бұрын

I have a 991.2 and can’t wait to get my hands on my new 992 4S in July. To each his own.

@andyjackson5404 29 күн бұрын

I prefer the NA engine , three pedals on the floor and no exhaust restrictions… we shall see what the future brings

@detonator2112 Ай бұрын

Never liked the looks of the 992. It's so HUGE. Well 991 was big too but 992 looks almost like a GT car. Superb performance and great modern car. Not taking away anything of that. But damn it's just gigantic and a far cry from the air cooled Porsches which always will have the "genuine Porsche look" for me. I wish they'd return at least a bit back to roots with their next model.

@albertbrooklyn Ай бұрын

I have a 992.1 TTS on order and from my prospective the electric assist rumored in the 992.2 is not something I am interested in. I agree, that the 992 has short comings, the shifter/shaver, loss of the 5 analog dials, cup holder, and door handles but, in the end, it’s still pure ICE.

@leegreaves4744 Ай бұрын

I agree with the last comment the 992 is too big and fat , my opinion is that the 997 is the perfect size for a sports car , hope they don’t make the 992.2 bigger,keep up the good work Lee 😊.

@mattabell3657 Ай бұрын

I traded my 997 Carrera 4 for a 992 Carrera S a month ago. At first I thought I made a serious mistake. The new car felt far too heavy and cumbersome in comparison, not to mention the colossal turbo lag in normal setting. But after 1200 miles I couldn’t be happier with it. Also, the increased size allows my 2 and 4 year olds to come along with my wife and I. It’ll be a short fling with the car though as I finally got an allocation for a C8 Z06.

@rustyfox81 Ай бұрын

Any update on little Irish ?

@carfan3762 Ай бұрын

I quite agree with you Lee, the 992 generation has reached (possibly outreached) the limits of what is an acceptable size for a 911. Bigger would simply be far too big. While presently enjoying a 992 4GTS, I previously owned a 997 4GTS with the 1st generation PDK box in 2011 which had great balance. I also agree with your dislike of the 992 door handles which are a pain in the backside, and I loathe the electronic interferences such as the warning message which automatically appears when the road is wet. As though a 911 driver doesn’t know what to do if it suddenly starts to rain. Honestly ! On the other hand the 3.0 twin turbo flat-6 is a fabulous engine with bags of oomph and torque and in the GTS configuration even produces a decent sound when the exhaust valve is activated. The Carrera T of the present video seems to be a great proposition, sort of going back to basics, and the 7 speed manual ticks the right box. On the whole it seems to me that the 992.1 generation will no doubt remain a solid reference in many respects. The oncoming 992.2 just has to better it and I think one can trust the engineers and designers at Porsche for doing a very good job. I am looking forward to the 28th of May and also looking very closely at how the GT3 lineup will evolve, because it may be, for this 992.2 generation, the last hurrah for the 4.0 naturally aspirated flat-6. 😎

@billnorblat4047 Ай бұрын

Word on the street is the new GT3 will not have the 4.0. Likely a 3.6

@carfan3762 Ай бұрын

@@billnorblat4047 That’s interesting. I wonder what the reason behind such a decision (if it were to be confirmed) is. As the Porsche wizards claim over and over again that a new car has to be better than the one it is replacing, we should’t be too worried. But downsizing a naturally aspirated engine is a rather surprising piece of news in this context. We’ll just have to see.

@markduffy9475 Ай бұрын

I went to launch of the 992 in Gateshead Baltic centre back in 2018. First, it's huge, second, the quality in the cabin was disappointing, more expensive but quality had dropped. The quality issues started with the 991 and across the Porsche range. Check out the carpet quality of a 996 and 997 to a 991 and 992. Also the use of cheap steel in the chassis. Indy's have told me that they have seen 991 and 992s shocking rust. The 996 and 997 look like small toys when parked next to these. Like everything, too big and heavy and packed with tech that you just don't need. I suppose they have to to sell them to the tech hungry market.

@Redducati1199 Ай бұрын

I lost a little bit of interest in the 991.2 when they went 3.0, my interest in the 992 just has not been there at all... Apart from GT3 versions, I like a raw N/A and less screens.

@kamalmalek812 25 күн бұрын

My biggest complaint: the creaky plastic interior bits. Creaky steering wheel especially. And that's across three examples spanning the last 4+ years of production. The cheapening of the interior materials is visible everywhere.

@simono6520 Ай бұрын

Great review - as ever. Of course if everyone agreed on everything things would be very dull so here goes some comments on your comments. I do have to declare an interest - had my own 992 Carrera T for 6 months and loving it. A few comments... Interior compared to the 991. Massive improvement - every time I look at the 991 interior I think what sort of cheapskate has specced the car with so many blank buttons. Has anyone every filled the whole set? - it just looks so cheap. 992 sport design rear end - the designers had a real laugh on this one. /They said - what's wrong with the current rear? What's the most important part of the rear of a car? Of course, the number plate! We must make the number plate the centre of attention as its just so important. Why oh why make the plate more conspicuous? Size of 992 - it is just a little big, BUT a lotus emira is 100mm wider!, a ferrari Roma is similar - 992 is small in comparison as after all its width that counts (so I hear!). The 992 is also actually narrower than the 991 turbo - I hope all the 991 turbo reviews made it clear how big it is? As I said, great review and lots to love about all 911 generations.

@DayTradeEssentials Ай бұрын

The first 992 started as a 2020 model year in the US and Asia. Is UK that special to have received a 2019 model? It hasn’t been even 5 yrs of production, how are you providing a 6 yr review?

@stu4181 Ай бұрын

Can’t understand the 6 year bit unless it was when it was first revealed. U.K. got 2019 cars, Porsche likes to import them here as can charge more I’ve noticed the models are priced fairly close in dollars and pounds which means Porsche is making more on each car.

@Evan_She 28 күн бұрын

Sales numbers have proved that 922 is a sought after generation.

@nickg2027 Ай бұрын

if you would have asked, I would have said that the 992 was only a year or so old!!

@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 Ай бұрын

The 992 generation will be judged by its long standing competitors in the U.S.A. Every other Porsche series trounced the antiquated leaf spring cars that GM was building for quality , but the playing field RADICALLY changed in the 992 generation. When the first mid engine, GTLM CHASSIS rolled off the GM assembly plant line in the C8 Corvette series. Then immediately the ENTIRE Porsche 911 series came into focus as being overpriced and INFERIOR from a design standpoint. Corvette since the debut has literally taken down the ENTIRE Lamborghini Huracan and Aventador lineups from start to finish if we are truly talking sports cars and handling. We will remember the 992 gen cars as good but overpriced.

@Fabriecri Ай бұрын

the 992 gen to me ? a Panamerization !

@billnorblat4047 Ай бұрын

It's definitely is a bit large for European roads. Fits right in on American roads.

@r.hagenau3541 4 күн бұрын

"History" will not charge at all, as the whole car history will remain a socially important, but in the end obscure side note of history. Concerning the 911 history, the 992 is the 911 that finally arrived at the size of the 928, almost to the milimeter. And the double-wishbone front suspension of the GT3.

@corgi_leonberger7233 Ай бұрын

Carrera T - the best of the best! My favourite 911

@afoolandhismoneychannel Ай бұрын

Far too big. I'd call it the new 928 but the 992 dwarfs the 928.

@user-mg3nc6iu8t Ай бұрын

Unfortunately bigger, no manual in base model,(why?) and lesser sins of cup holder up against manual shifter in S and above models and easily damaged piano black trim in the interior, and no upgrade in engine from previous generation, sorry.

@nathanwild811 Ай бұрын

Too Audi like same as the 991.2

@DD-jq7bo Ай бұрын

Best looking 911 ever

@detonator2112 29 күн бұрын

Sorry, not even close. Best looking ones are the 964 Turbo and 993 2S/4S.

@louiscipollo7766 28 күн бұрын

I have a 991.2 S now but a 992 4S slated for delivery in July. I cannot wait. I really like the 991.2 but the 992 has a far superior interior in my opinion and still feels like a 911 when I drive it. When I test drove the 992 and parked it next to my 991.2 at the dealer, they look virtually the same size-wise, the 992 not “bloated”. It’s in people’s heads.

@nick102001 Ай бұрын

Cup holder…

@p0sitiv467 28 күн бұрын

992.2 will lose an analog rev counter...

@19poundpound94 27 күн бұрын

The 992 generation is a two-door Panamera with a horrible door handle.

@AbyNeon Ай бұрын

dude the sport design rear looks like shit, while the regular one is absolute beauty.... im not sure why you want your car to look like a hyundai

@geokeyey1116 Ай бұрын

If they make a hybrid and or pure electric it's the END of the 911, sorry Porsche 911 should be purely piston driven, and throw away most luxury items, sound os an N/A engine at redline should be your stereo

@user-qq2jf8zc9t 28 күн бұрын

When you own 20million worth of Commercial Real Estate?? Which car do you daily drive?? White 86 with 2.4boxer mated to a 6speed. Why?? Amount of time my 911 got keyed?? Flat-tyre nails!! Asshole written on my windscreen NOT funny!! AND this happens inside my own industrial park !!!!!!

@VK6AB- Ай бұрын

With a yawn just a tuned motor with no character relative to 991.2.

@user-mx8py3yv8r Ай бұрын

The engines used in the 991.2 and the 992.1 are the same.

@VK6AB- Ай бұрын

@@user-mx8py3yv8r Yes I know, totally characterless just different states of tune. The 991.1 base through to GTS had an engaging and characterful NA engine. The 991.2 got the turbos and they're OK but all they did for the 992 was change the state of tune (in effect) add that to the german taxi cab style interior and you have a car that declined in character from 991.1 -> 991.2 -> 992.1. The 992 was the moment Porsche turned into BMW except with a few niche marketing products.

@user-mx8py3yv8r Ай бұрын

@@VK6AB- I own a 992 T and a 997 C4. Truth is, the 997 feels even better than the 991 IMO. The 992 is definitely softer than the previous generations, but it's an absolute pleasure to drive. Porsche somehow made the car feel NA. Sound is sacrificed a bit because of the turbos, but the instant torque is super fun when you gun it. BMW? The M4 weighs ~800lbs more than the 992. Gross. My '24 only weighs 60lbs more than my '06. The new M4 weighs 500lbs more than the E46 M3 I had in '04. I see what you're saying, but BMWs are bloated af. That pig nostril grill is a joke too. If you can, drive a T with a manual. It may change your mind.

@VK6AB- Ай бұрын

@@user-mx8py3yv8r Not really interested in a 992 T, as you may appreciate feeling and being NA are very different things, the sound is radically different. TBH the 992 doesn't do it for me, no personality. And I have owned over 20+ Porsche cars and competed in 5 seasons of Cup. The 992 missed the mark.

@user-mx8py3yv8r Ай бұрын

@@VK6AB- You are certainly entitled to your opinion. Porsche owners in general disagree with you as evidenced by Porsche selling out every 992 they make before they even arrive on the lots for the past 3-4 years. There's a reason the Carrera T thread has more posts than any other on Rennlist. I didn't buy a 992 for 4 years until I drove a T. I thought you might be open minded to a model that fixed some of the 'problems' you describe, but I get it. I was dead set against a 992 as well until that day I got to drive a T and was like holy Fk! They really did a great job with the combination of features. Sounds like your driving experience/needs are way different than mine. As a daily, I think the 992 is great. For track fun, my 4C wins every time.

@billnorblat4047 Ай бұрын

The entire car market will go up over the next 2 years. It will follow crypto and the stock markets. Buy now.

@TheDjcarlos67 14 күн бұрын

Overweight, over sized, odd styling with childish details,, too much unnecessary tech…

@simonsays911 12 күн бұрын

You have never driven one then

@TheDjcarlos67 12 күн бұрын

@@simonsays911 I’ve had Porsche’s since the 90’s. Currently on a 996 but always looking for my next one, but it won’t be an overweight hog. Puts me in a better position than you to comment

@simonsays911 5 күн бұрын

⁠@@TheDjcarlos67 It’s painfully obvious you’ve never driven one and just because you drive an old 996 doesn’t give you the experience to make such a statement. I’m on my tenth 911, currently enjoying a 992 T manual. My Porsche journey started with a manual 997 C2S and includes both Gen 1 and Gen 2 997 GT3s. What amazes me are these comments from people who’ve clearly never been behind the wheel of one. manufacturers have to comply with modern safety standards, but make no mistake-the 992 T (and the 991 T) are some of the best daily sports cars that can actually be driven relatively hard on UK roads. So maybe try driving one before spouting off.

@TheDjcarlos67 5 күн бұрын

@@simonsays911 oh man I’m gutted for you. I just got back from breakfast with the Porsche Centre in Manchester and I’m sorry to break it to you but I had short drive in two new 911’s. GTS and Carrera T. Beautiful cars, but far too big. Maybe you’ll get to drive one soon. Ta taa👋

@simonsays911 5 күн бұрын

@@TheDjcarlos67 Yet you just mentioned in another KZfaq comment that you just recently bought a 996, and now you're claiming to be out test-driving new 911s. So, which is it? Are you just a tire kicker or a typical keyboard warrior who doesn't know what they're talking about? The best part is, you've just proven that you hadn't even driven one before making your original comment. 😂