I'm really really high right now and this floored me.

@@itsDaedrinGerman humor is NO laughing matter!

​@exoticloop well yeah, German humour is a heavy matter - that's why he is on the floor

10 years behind schedule too!

Omg 💀💀💀

I like that

That would actually fix the off by one error, what a great idea

That's Genius!

That is a really good point. I like that a lot. lol Definitely at the end of the month. lol

this is great, I vote for this idea. Makes it a much more interesting art project.

😢

the good kind of ptsd

Same. I figured this problem out in 3rd grade but couldnt articulate it well enough to explain what was going on so my friends, family, and even teacher just shrugged and told me to stop overthinking it.

Just to be clear, you're saying humanity will NOT survive that long?

@@lordzuzu6437 I leave to future me to figure that one out.

It's also enlightening to as perhaps the reason we have many crazy stone objects from the ancient world. "Perhaps our future ancestors can learn valuable information from the pyramid encoded with sacred geometry" As an example.

It also could be seen as a bit of a poison gift, since concrete is not very resilient when exposed to the outdoor weather.

sound like this would be 10 problems ... :-)

True jokesters you 3

I can think of about 11 issues with this, give or take the one.

This makes me angry!

Sounds like four to me.

😂

I wanted to propose exactly this, but I got beaten by a programmer with 1 block of experience whereas I started programming 4 blocks ago.

I had a similar idea. Follow the plan as the artist designed and for the last anniversary date remove one block and set it on an adjacent platform. It becomes a horizontal hourglass.

This is the best idea. Additionally they could then start another pyramid next to it that will count 144'000 years. Though I think the people will own nothing in 10 years, be happy and can't afford to put any more pieces.

Only 10 years? Ah, an amateur. You need another 40 years experience before you understand how to solve this.

This is a lovely solution!

But it has its LIMITs

next is every 3 minutes and then 1,5 seconds so it is kinda hard to get the 5 one going and if you did the fifth one you need to place blocks every 12,5 miliseconds and then 104 microseconds then 868 nanoseconds then 7.23 nanoseconds then dmalq then sekihfnthenrlfcki.n,aw then oldkn

​@@domin3k535did you have a stroke mid sentence?

Lol you did an off by one error. If the last big block is placed exactly 10 years before the anniversary, placing the first small block exactly one month after that will have the last small block being placed in the right time

Well, nothing is more satisfying that the good work done by yourself so... congrats!

To do that perfectly I think every 4 blocks you could use 4 months to paint 4 block, 1 for each month, then you place another block after 10 years. In this way, you have some sort of linearity and don't have to paint for a whole year. Also, people from 3000 will not be able to represent our times as well as we can today.

This also suffers the off by one problem, but if you start at the end of each month, which is reasonable, then they will end on the end date.

Yeah! great idea - or just number each block its date. Its like an extra loop for checking if all the earlier tasks have been accomplished successfully - an ASSERT statement :)

@@zenmasterfu, it doesn't suffer it if you finish it at the end of each month though does it?

This guy gets it.

huh??

I can see what you did there.

Brilliant! 😂

There are 10 kinds of people, those who read binary and those who don't.

Brilliant!

Suck it future nerds

This is brilliant

This reads like a Monty python sketch hahah

I wonder if the artist did the error in purpose to warn people about the fact we often let our future problems to future humans. (Like for ecology)

That was my thought.

welll....food wasting aint something germans like.

​@@satakrionkryptomortiscigarette butts

It won't exist. There is no motivation like with a cathedral.

I think the fifth block will never been put in place...

Yeah, similarly I was thinking for the final block just start a new pyramid.

You're off by two! but yes xD

i thought there were only 10 problems... not 100..

That's brilliant

@a5672 i think the point is that an array of length 2 is actually 3 in length and by adding an off by one error it becomes 4

I c wat u did there I think

I'm not sure your maths are right..

Classic off by one error! You meant to say the 21st century didn’t ya😉

@@MrKnivan no

@@MrKnivan1900's is the 20th century, when this project was started!

@@almicc Theoretically, the year 1900 itself is in the 19th century.

I agree completely. I feel like some of these massive projects, either in scale or time, can really drive home some realism in a story focusing "after the end". I think showing something that started generations ago, or has been in progress for generations really impacts the world they are placed in, moreso than showing some of mankind's other projects left in disrepair or being over taken by nature. Imagine seeing the Hoover dam before it was finished. With some sections already curing while thousands of feet of rebar is left exposed. It can really display just how quickly and thoroughly a large civilization had collapsed. Massive public works projects abandoned mid-construction. Equipment, machinery, and refined resources left to be scavenged by any remaining people. Reclaimed by flora and fauna.

Why not the Familia Sagrada? If it's a close future post-apocalypse, then you could have one of cranes collapse in the shot Edit: Didn't intend to seem disagreeing, was just adding 😊

Fallout: Germany. The stones are crumbled, but you can still see where they were once placed… A plaque on the monument shows what this was supposed to commemorate and how it was to be built. As you look at the worn, war-damaged pillars, you count the years: Row 1: 1993, 2003, 2013, 2023, 2033, 2043, 2053, 2063 Row 2: 2073… And that’s it… 8 blocks, 80 years, and then… nothing… The world ended.

@@cortos_9733 The cologne cathedral took 600 years to build and was left there with a giant crane just sitting in the middle of it for 350 years

Just a small cluster of survivors that have added their own blocks to keep it going.

💯 what will happen… I know for sure - maybe with concrete that lasts as long as the Roman stuff this time!?🤯

it’s a long term study into human nature to see how much it bothers people when there is a mistake but we’ve been rolling with it for a millennia

@@floodo1 You just make a new art installation.

Yes, that's the obvious answer. They started the first pyramid on the first 1200th anniversary, so they'll have to start the second pyramid on the 2400th anniversary.

I have a theory that this mistake is part of the art, and this is the reason why. Like, you're not going to skip a decade just to fix the error, and when you get to the end, you get a decade to appreciate it being complete, and after that decade, what do you do? Do you just dust off your hands and leave it? No, you make a new plan and you put another block down. Maybe you start an identical pyramid and then when there are 4 pyramids you start filling in the gaps to make another big pyramid, and just fractally expand like that. I like to think the artist left this issue in and just didn't tell anybody, just hoping the legacy would continue even further.

this is such a great idea

What about a red sphere? A "cherry on top", so to speak.

I was thinking the same thing. I think it would be a great way to end it.

I was about to comment the same thing - this is the only reasonable solution.

Doesn't have to be a stone, it could be anything that will be meaningful to the town a thousand years from now and fits on top of the four stones. Maybe they can put in a Times Square-esque ball that drops slowly every ten years?

The foundation is the zero-ith stone. They should have put the first cuboid on the foundation after ten years, not at the same time!

Arrays start at 0 because the index is just an offset multiplier. Everything multiplied by 0 is 0. So the calculation works the same for every entry. So yeah in practice it's just "for historical reasons" for most people. Because nothing uses primitive data types like that anymore. And for very good reason, just the lack of type meta data is the reason for so many security issues in C(++) or ASM code.

Lua: _exists menacingly_

​@@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece In the digital world, you can use four binary bits to represent 16 numbers, and those numbers are 0 through 15. Starting at zero is how the digital world works by definition. The off-by-one problem is a human construct based on human limitations, which is also why we say Jesus was born in year 1 instead of year 0, which means he turned 30 years old in year 31 instead of in year 30. Off by one. When it comes to time, the analogue clock and its face dial solved this by starting at 12 instead of 0. Hence all the 12h problems with noon, midnight and so forth.

The most famous off by one error is our calender starting at 1 CE. It is compounded by immediately following 1 BCE.

You need a 3x3 top, not s 2x2

@y_12 Not in minecraf 1,200

based on personal experiences, i don't think concrete is gonna work.

Colour me impressed.

That would be infuriatingly bureaucratic if they did.

Wrong. The page limit was the floor of the number of pages so the last page didn't count. But they should have failed you for not knowing basic floor arithmetic.

Legend

@@RubiksTimmey That was one of the pages, yes.

That's actually genius

Or a smaller pyramid-shaped piece as the capstone on top in the final event

This would also add some asymmetry, which always pleases the eye more than just a completely geometrically perfect shape! Indeed a brilliant idea! 👍

Agreed. Instead of trying to add a fence, kinda how the video put it. Why couldn't the first block acknowledge the previous decade. So when the last stone put in place it is still celebrating 1200 years but 120 blocks. I really think that was the intent.

I second this. The artist made their artistic choise, changing that would be a shame. Also 3 on top of each other already sohnds sketchy, like 11 on top of each other sounds dangerous af.

"when making the universe we were off by one" 100% sounds like some hitchiker's stuff. You could make an entire installment to the series around that.

guide*

"I think it rather does matter where we are. "Earthish, or thereabouts" makes me think that you don't know how to read that thing," said Arthur. His headache had returned, and one of his eyes had begun twitching. "Look, it's just a rounding error. It's close enough, why are you being such an earthman about it?" said Ford, who had just taken on the appearance of feather dusters in a sock. The sock poked at a few more brightly coloured buttons to no effect. The computer made a moaning sound, and muttered it's intent to introduce hard vacuum to all inhabited areas of the ship, just as soon as it could remember the password. "Did you say something?" asked Ford. "Ford, you're a sock." said Arthur. He desperately wanted a cup of tea. "Oh, is that all?" said the sock. The sock reached into his satchel, pulled out a #2 Phillips head screwdriver. He used it to scratch his big toe, and then, with a sudden and furious shout of frustration, he jammed the screwdriver into the eye of the cactus that had taken the place of the computer terminal. There was a warm, echo laden, electrical sound, like someone shouting bzzzzzzZAP into a traffic cone. Suddenly Arthur leaped to his feed with a start. "What is it now Arthur, can't you see I'm trying to save our lives?" "fordlookoutthewindowplease" said Arthur. Ford turned and looked quizzically at Arthur, tilting his head slightly to one side, like a very clever dog (or a very stupid dolphin.) "Ah, Arthur, back to normal now. Good, good, I knew that would work. Did you say something?" said Ford. The off by one error had cause Arthur more than one problem during his so far short and uneventful (until last Tuesday) life. But this was getting out of hand. And there still wasn't any tea. "lookoutthewindowpleaseandtellmewhatthecockisthat" said Arthur. "Have you had a stroke?" asked Ford as he stepped towards the Earthman, but the white parlour that the Earthman currently wore as a skin colour was significantly more pale than usual. And Arthur came from England. He stopped for a moment to think, but decided to take the chance. After all, he was much more constitutionally suited to space stuff, being from Betelgeuse IV, and anyway, earthmen turned pale at all sorts of things. Broken plates. Rude words. Folding genitalia. A very odd species indeed. Ford braced himself, then spun counterclockwise on his heels until he had turned 290 degrees. He was looking directly into Arthur's ear. Ford made a mental note to pick up to some Q tips, and turned back toward the window. And first he wouldn't see it. Not that he couldn't see it. He could see it fine. But his brain refused to do anything with the visual information his eyes were providing. It just outright said no, and then locked the door. *** There you go, a little Douglas Adams pastiche. He would have done it funny though. I don't know why I did that.

Simples....the answer is 42

@@DJSockmonkeyMusic This is beautiful.

Dann bis in 9 Jahren, vielleicht sieht man sich ja...

or they could put a concrete roof over the last four blocks to close the project

Nah, that would never work. Sorry.

@@chriswebster24 Why?

@@LucBogaert I agree. They're only short by one block, so installing some sort of final block or capstone feels like the most natural solution to me.

i bet they will destroy it on the 1200 mark and start another one in the same place, with the off by one error built in aswell of course

No, you can’t lengthen it by 1/120. Then what we think is an “hour” will actually be about 30 seconds shorter than the new hour. Our clocks will gain about 12 minutes every day.

@@YamamotoTV2021i don't see the issue?

Time of arrival of season will differ.

@@votch2798 People might be 12 minutes early to meetings the first Monday if using the old clock. Then 24 min early on Tuesday, 36 on Wednesday, 48 on Thursday, and then an hour early on Friday.

@@votch2798 All of a sudden, people would have to go to stores and buy a new clock. It would be very crowded.

a simple and easy solution

Or like paint the whole thing or cover it or whatever. Or pour the whole thing solid 😅

I feel like having one block next to the pyramid has something poetic to it.

@@wifi_cplay1238 Putting one on top was my first thought but I really like your idea.

Just stick a flag on the top 😂

These are trivial compared with something like "user requirements" or, beware, "business requirements".

​@@falknfurtertrue. but I wouldn't say that's a problem specific to software. Lots of arts and crafts got that same issue

Just name things after fantasy or sci-fi books and movies (and adding numbers). That's why your google search results are produced by server BilboMcfly42069

The too hardest problems with it 's confusing one off concept is that having a phun's time is universal and yet not globally appreciated.

I'm guessing this is 0 indexed

I wonder if future architects decades from now will make use of it in assessing construction material choice. Then again, it only really displays the weathering of whatever the local German makeup of concrete is, and that makeup almost certainly changes from decade to decade. I also doubt a long time from now we will even still be using concrete given its environmental costs.

@Saluno375 valid points. I wonder if the artist specified concrete type/mixture in the plans and the trust that oversees it.

Now I'm just imagining some ancient druid falling out of a time portal fresh from designing Stone Henge, then getting mad someone's stolen the same idea....

It's also good because it will show improvements in concrete mixtures over time as well. Also, future generations could put their own new materials into it to show what new elements they create in the future.

Trust me, Germans usually spend many moons to find the right concrete for the specific situation. I wouldn't wonder, if the use as weathering showcase wasn't at least seriously considered. You cannot simply have entertainment without innovation in Germany. Pure entertainment is hard to enjoy for us when it involves costs. 😊

Maybe if it was actually stone it would last but concrete? No way it will be up by 3193

Ive seen another comment saying they could build a support structure so the blocks aren't resting on each other but you still get to see the degradation over time

Any idea how much pressure these layers of blocks will put on the lower layers? In the center?

Degradation of the structure only adds to it. How do you visualise 1200 years? How about with withering concrete that is 1/12 of that.

​@pedrolmlkzk look at Rome if you want to see ancient concrete still standing

Thats amazing!

"We." That's a problem for people 1160 years from now. 1160 years ago from today Olaf the White was plundering Scotland.

As there are 120 blocks you could do one block every month for the last decade too!

Really nice idea!

Problem with that idea is that each block/decade would then be defined by those who didn't actually live in the time period. In fact, the gap of understanding from the first block to the final is more than 1000 years. Imagine trying to make a piece of art to exemplify the year 1024. Not only we lack historical records (mostly due to destruction, wear and tear as well as linguistics difference), the moral values we have today is totally different than those in the year 1024 so whatever we put on the piece might not be regarded as important by them Imagine if the only thing that those in the year 3024 know about us are the memes because to them we are the Memian Revolution in their history books. Do you think "gyatt skibbidy toilet" as in anyway important to your life or even define this decade? To those in the year 3024, they might see it in the same way we see the steam locomotives of the Industrial Revolution, an example of human ingenuity and the prpgress of technology.

Maybe this was the original idea of Manfred all along, but just kept it quiet. It wouldn't surprise me if an artist was thinking like that, trolling a lil' bit :D

or it can be an excellent metaphor for people's carelessness in regards to current actions and their unforeseen future effects, and the over-reliance on the "the future generations will figure it out" mindset towards things that outlive us.

'To' or 'too' ?

"tja" - a German reaction to the apocalypse, Dawn of the Gods, nuclear war, an alien attack or no bread in the house. "Well, now it's too late."

🤣

And an imagination! Just slap as ingle extra on top in the end!

Off by one year error?

You can call it Parker year

@@danielwan2410recorded last year

@@Dr904really? how can you tell!?

@@EarlHare"Hot summer day" of "2023"

That can be fixed.

Its concrete. Its already cracked.

The first blocks will start to crush in 40 years. C'mon, water, heat, freezing colds...

The pad will crack before the first is even finished. I doubt they used roman concrete

I dislike everything about this. The look, the plan all of it. It's just bad.

It's a Parker Clarinet

I was wondering if we should tell Matt he made an obvious but understandable mistake.

I came here to say that too!

I came here to say this, too. 😄

I was wondering why it didn't sound like a clarinet

Ah, so that's why its sound heavily reminded me of a saxophone and nothing like what I remember a clarinet sounding like. It also didn't quite look like what I remember a clarinet looks like, but I just assumed at first it might have been modded to look that way... at least until the audio for it kicked in.

​@@C2TalonThat's a soprano saxophone, which is not as well known as the typical alto sax. It's got a lovely sound, one of my favorite instruments.

I came here to say the same thing. To those that were wondering, a clarinet was traditionally made from ebony or boxwood and black in color. It is sometimes referred to as a liquorice stick, due to it's black color. It has a completely different sound to the soprano saxophone and the only things in common are that they are both considered woodwind instruments and they produce their sounds via a single reed and mouthpiece.

@utha2665 Their defining trait is actually their bore shape. A clarinet's bore shape is primarily cylindrical, ignoring the flaring of the bell. A saxophone is primarily conical. These shapes produce different harmonic overtones, and that's where their color comes from.

@@ianemerson2704 I was going to mention this earlier, but I thought it might be too technical. I have been playing the clarinet since I was 10 years old. I still have one, although it's packed away somewhere and I haven't played it in years. Additionally, I used to play the Bari saxophone as well. I am aware that a clarinet overblows a 12th, while a saxophone overblows an octave. This is due to the difference between stopped cylindrical and stopped conical bores.

Or redo it for 1993-2022 and then add a small piece of artwork showing the technology and culture each year so it becomes the fences being counted instead of the fenceposts.

100% agreed. Quite frankly there should be paint pots and chalk out for the kids to colorise the blocks on the day. A public drawing spot beats random vandalism every time.

The shelf-life for reinforced concrete is about 100 years only. As moisture seeps into the concrete, the rebar will eventually corrode and cracks will begin to appear. Eventually, the concrete will perish under the weight.

​@@magg0tmacdonald They may have little to no rebar in them, given that there's no tension load on them. My concern is for the foundation, which is under tension and would have rebar. Even the soil underneath too may well not survive that load for that amount of time.

the lowest is like 30 years, if you use really the cheapest suitable concrete. You see this in some stadiums, where even the concrete is already crumbling after about 30 years.

Who cares! It will never be finished. I'm sure something like a war, housing-development project, cost or just lack of interest will be the end of it well before the 1190 years are up.

i was also wondering if they're using some special formula of concrete. i think stacking the blocks together is not so problematic; the Romans used to just drill an aligned hole in both blocks and put a bronze (?) rod in there as a pin. and the Colosseum survived 2000 years no problem

I hope you've taught him the classic: "The two hardest problems in computer science are cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors"

@@odysyr and buffer overflows, and buffer overflows, and buffer overflows, and buffer overflows, and buffer overflows, and buffer overflows, and buffer overflows, and buffer overflows, and buffer overflows, and buffer overflows, and buffer overflows, and buffer overflows, and buffer overflows, and buffer overflows

@@odysyr every time i write a "foreach" loop in c# i mentally thank whoever invented that, so i don' t have to deal with debugging the inevitable mistake when i forget either the first or last index in the collection :D

@@benja_mint clasic for cycle over collection is a simple pattern. Once you get used to it, you never do off-by-one error again.

Where was your son in 1993?

maybe the last piece can be a roof or sth

Just need to put a viewing tower next to it so you can look from the correct vantage point.

If the fence completes a loop, it will have the same number of posts as panels.

Even better with Plutonium instead of concrete.

I liked the idea of using granite. Maybe do that for the bottom centers that are load bearing

Good idea. Isn't that how clocks work anyway ?

just start new piramid on a 1200 year celebration day, and the problem will be temporary solved ... ;p

I think the solution is for the last block add one half height then add the other half a decade later when it really ends.

Someone else noticed 😂

As a clarinet player myself I saw that and was like " _That's_ a clarinet‽"

Lol

Same, I was like "Uhhhh..."

thank god i wasnt the only one