The 10 Worst Mistakes Made When Treating Chondromalacia Patella Knee Pain

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The 10 Worst Mistakes Made When Treating Chondromalacia Patella Knee Pain

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El Paso Manual Physical Therapy

Күн бұрын

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@sophialiu8194 10 ай бұрын

Thank you, Dr. David. You are the only one and first one to tell a patient how to recover using the basics. I have made all the mistakes by continuing to exercise even the leg and arm hurt. Thanks a million for telling me to give the body time to heal first before engaging in exercises .

@epmanualphysicaltherapy 10 ай бұрын

Hey Sophia, you are very welcome! We are so glad we were able to help you understand better!

@vzcorner6118 2 ай бұрын

Suffering from grade 4 . You helped so much with the glute strengthening exercises. Thanks from India!

@HarpreetKaur-ti2xp 27 күн бұрын

Hi @vzcorner I am suffering from the same with grade 4 , all doctors suggesting surgery, I have very little baby to look after bit hesitant for surgery , may I know these exercises provide some relief or helped restore cartilage in grade 4 .

@vzcorner6118 27 күн бұрын

@@HarpreetKaur-ti2xp These exercises are basically postural correction. Yes it reduced my knee pain . Also try ice packs on knees. Wish you health.

@FLSandye 8 ай бұрын

Suffering from patella tracking .... why do I get the feeling that you are talking directly to me 😊 You have been such a God send to me! Everything you say makes sense. My best friend is an ice pack 🤣 Take care and keep up the good work that you do for us seniors 😊👍

@louangesaves3481 Жыл бұрын

My doctor and physiotherapist don’t know why I suddenly have knee pain . Doctor gave me pregabalin and dicoflenac sodium and physiotherapist gave me 4 exercises to do that would be okay to do whether I have arthritis or Runners knee. It’s been over a month and I’m basically very limited and it’s starting to affect my mental health. Im so glad I discovered your channel today . I watch a lot of you tube videos lately to find a solution to at least get me to get I my car and drive again. 👩🏻🇨🇦

@epmanualphysicaltherapy Жыл бұрын

Hey @louangesaves3481, sorry you've been dealing with this sudden knee pain that's affecting your mental health. It can get really bad at times. You've likely got a muscle imbalance that needs to be addressed so you can treat your current knee problem and so you don't have recurring knee pain. Did you know about our 28 Day Knee Health & Wellness Boost Program that is designed to address the muscle imbalance of runner's knee? You can learn more about it here: www.epmanualphysicaltherapy.com/knee-health If you're sure your have knee arthritis, then you need to learn more about our “Knee Arthritis Recovery Program” www.epmanualphysicaltherapy.com/knee-arthritis-recovery-program

@margyeoman3564 4 ай бұрын

This man knows. Almost every other doctor or physiotherapist gives wrong advice. I have listened to many of them. El Paso Physio gives the best advice and exercise treatments!!

@surajmatta2544 11 күн бұрын

Great to listen to your videos on chronomalacia patella

@epmanualphysicaltherapy 11 күн бұрын

Hi Suraj, Thank you so much! Just in case you're interested, we have a playlist for chondromalacia patella you might find interesting. You can check it out here: “Chondromalacia Patella Help” kzfaq.info/sun/PLJVIPiFvv1mah5PV-1Y-fv1UHrmbqnXQE We appreciate you tuning in! Please take care! 🧡

@fb9bk 10 ай бұрын

All I can say, spot on! You know your knees. Knowledge holds more value when shared and thank you for sharing!

@miloteagan4273 Жыл бұрын

Dr.David. been following you now for a month and actually feel better. all that you have said regarding the medical community has been suggested to me such as lose weight, increase advil use, strenghthen quads. other than watching my diet which i feel better doing, i ignored the rest. and NOT jumping to surgery after two visits to ortho. thank you so much.

@epmanualphysicaltherapy Жыл бұрын

YAYYYYYYY!!!!!! This is fantastic to hear Milo!!!! We're sooo happy that you're feeling better!!!! Thank you for updating us on your success!!!!

@mariagerouki1499 Жыл бұрын

Thank you from Greece. I follow your advices and they are very helpful, I feel less pain.

@epmanualphysicaltherapy Жыл бұрын

Great to hear that mariagerouki1499! 😊❤️

@koblerville923 21 күн бұрын

I appreciate your explanation of how central strengthening the glutes is to treating CP, PFS, and knee arthritis. I am doing this because targeting the quads and VMO in the past hurt.

@epmanualphysicaltherapy 18 күн бұрын

Hey Koblerville, excellent to hear that you will be strengthening your glutes! This will definitely help with knee pain. Below will be a few playlists for you that can help: “Top 5 Glute Muscle Exercises For Knee Pain” kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hL6Uds2Fl7fYenU.html “Top 6 Standing Glute Exercises To Help Knee Pain” kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oKpnfLVzy7CRnYE.html “Knee Pain Exercises, Stretches, Advice, & Tips Playlist” kzfaq.info/sun/PLJVIPiFvv1mY02hvFckRQO55HfAqDtWrM Please keep us posted on your progress! 🍑

@koblerville923 16 күн бұрын

@@epmanualphysicaltherapy Encouraging so far!

@fathimathsahla.k8734 Жыл бұрын

Helloo.. I am a 27 yr old woman recently diagnosed with chondromalacia.. My Dr advised me to do an exercise like sitting on a chair and raising legs while counting 1 to 10...I am doing this every day... Isn't it a good one to correct chondromalacia?😢

@Sis.Sweets 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for these videos. When you talk about cartilage healing in this situation (since chondromalacia patella is supposedly a permanent condition as far as the rough cartilage unless surgically changed), what do you mean by healing? I assume you mean a reduction or removal of symptoms (aside from noise perhaps). From my experience (grade 3), having strong legs made me have no inflammation ever in my life in my knees despite the condition, no matter what activities I did or how long, until I lost strength and muscle after an injury and then it became very inflamed for a while, probably due to all the extra pressure on the joints without that support. Gaining strength back has helped tremendously at getting back to having none. My knees always have been noisy, but without limitations or inflammation, that doesn't bother me.

@HarpreetKaur-ti2xp 27 күн бұрын

Wish to know the same being a chondromalecia patella grade 4 patient

@Sis.Sweets 26 күн бұрын

@@HarpreetKaur-ti2xp I wonder if he means just a reduction or elimination of inflammation/pain from it. My legs were always strong, so despite my noisy knees (grade 3 here btw), I never had inflammation from it a day in my life no matter how active I was or what I did or for how long. Until I lost strength/muscle after an injury, then without the support on the joints it was terrible! Gaining strength back in time has helped so much. Cortisone for me did not really (and I had a crappy reaction with it for days). I figure once I get it all back, hopefully it'll be eliminated once again and just go back to nothing but noise. Best of luck with your situation! Dedication and consistency hopefully can help you with muscle gain to support the joints.

@konstantinapapaioannou4306 Жыл бұрын

Could you suggest please a toe curling muscle strengthening exercise and an exercise for focused glut exercise? If you have videos please can you point me to them? Thank you!

@challengedollar2880 5 ай бұрын

I love this guy and this is his first video im watching. especially where he doesnt always recommend surgery.

@HarpreetKaur-ti2xp 27 күн бұрын

Doctor I have been resting my knee for 3 weeks as I have very painful situation , I have started feeling pain in calf muscles as well , what could be the cause , am facing chondromalecia patella -4

@mikeshorts76 6 ай бұрын

Mr David, wow thank you! You have really opened my eyes! I'm in my late 40s and this is my first injury - pretty severe CP. I'm feeling frustrated though - as you're saying, no quad strengthening and this is the majority of what my PT has me work on at home. I don't know how to tell them they're wrong, etc... I'm just feeling a little bit lost. Sometimes I think I should just work on this on my own. But it doesn't feel good to just quit PT.

@epmanualphysicaltherapy 6 ай бұрын

Hey Mike! Sorry to hear that you are having conflicting PT advice. We highly recommend a Virtual Consultation service with one of our experienced doctors. By opting for a Virtual Consultation, you'll have the opportunity to have a one-on-one conversation with our doctors, where they can delve into the details of your condition and provide you with tailored guidance and coaching. This personalized approach ensures that you receive the individualized support and direction you need to make informed decisions about your health. To learn more about our Virtual Consultations including cost please click here: www.epmanualphysicaltherapy.com/virtual-visit/

@shaliniagarwal6076 Жыл бұрын

I have been taking treatments for the past 2 yrs. But my knee pain just progressed to Chondrimalacia despite all efforts 😢

@user-xt2zk9to6k Жыл бұрын

What do you think if shock wave therapy?

@drose1205 Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@epmanualphysicaltherapy Жыл бұрын

You're welcome! 😊

@terristewart6119 Жыл бұрын

Great information! Thank you!

@epmanualphysicaltherapy Жыл бұрын

You're welcome! 😊

@harris-turner Жыл бұрын

I'm really really struggling. I'm 30 years old and my whole life has been turned upside down by knee pain. It's been 6 months now. Loads of MRIs, Xrays and bloods and they can't find anything other than wear and tear behind knee cap and fluid in my right knee and hip. I can't drive, if I do even a 5 minute journey it sets me into a flare. My other knee is having the same problem now too. I can't walk my dogs more than the end of my road. Some days I am bed bound by pain. I did start by resting for 2 weeks then exercising my quads as my physio recommended and now I think that might be part of why it's gone on so long. I was only aggravating it more. I can't go on like this it's too much. Right now everything hurts. But I will focus on my glutes. Thanks so much for your videos

@epmanualphysicaltherapy Жыл бұрын

Hey Rebecca, so sorry to hear that you are having such a hard time :-( hope our content helps and we would love to hear an update soon!

@tr6151 Жыл бұрын

@ Rebecca Harris-Turner How are you now?

@Kaegis Жыл бұрын

Start with an anti inflammatory diet. Sadly that also means coffee, tea and alcohol. Will let the inflammation settle so you can heal.

@TheJollyBot Жыл бұрын

@harris-turner any update?

@harris-turner Жыл бұрын

@@TheJollyBot I drastically changed my diet to anti-inflammatory and I'm working with a physiotherapist, unfortunately I'm coming up to a year of being in constant pain in my right knee / leg / hip - however although I have a limit (which a 30 year old shouldn't have) I am walking further than I was able to before, and it is not at the point where I'm bed bound as often as I used to be, so I'm hoping that even though it's slow it might be improving very slightly over time. I am nervous about things going downhill again over the winter. The doctors still don't know what's going on.

@prabham5798 Жыл бұрын

Hi doc, I want to know if swimming is good ! when can I go for swimming currently I have flare up in knee

@martivandermerwe2593 Жыл бұрын

Dr thank you for true info and exercises. From South Africa.

@epmanualphysicaltherapy Жыл бұрын

You're welcome! 🇿🇦😊

@antjetautkus5506 5 ай бұрын

Thx

@alaaaltaie4211 Жыл бұрын

U r just amazing

@epmanualphysicaltherapy Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@margaretknox4737 Жыл бұрын

I have tricompartmental chondromalacia please do an articlevon that

@antjetautkus5506 5 ай бұрын

Thx again.....painkillers ....on 😢minimum Gt Osteoarthritis behind ...the Patella ...:( Foot muscle...😢 Im not overweight OP Yes or no Fixable? Get your video now

@epmanualphysicaltherapy 5 ай бұрын

Hi Antje, We are so sorry to hear that you're struggling with osteoarthritis and patella issues! Yes, it is fixable with the right type of exercises. We have a Knee Arthritis Recovery Program that would aid in your recovery. It is similar to our in-person treatments minus the manual manipulation. The Knee Arthritis Recovery Program is designed to help people have the best chance of avoiding unnecessary surgery, injections, or having to rely on pain medications. This course guides people through exercises and stretches that target key body parts that have the greatest potential to prevent or help with knee conditions like osteoarthritis, meniscus tears, ligament injuries, cartilage problems and other knee conditions. To learn more please click this link: epmanualphysicaltherapy.com/knee-arthritis-recovery-program We also have a playlist for foot and ankle help: "Foot & Ankle Help” kzfaq.info/sun/PLJVIPiFvv1mZDFBRPyY3f9Dumk_hjg8H8 “Plantar Fasciitis Help” kzfaq.info/sun/PLJVIPiFvv1mbQPkYeRmwiT4VeIah4xMZC We wish you all the best in your road to recovery. We'd love to hear how you are doing as you progress.🙌 Please take care!

@user-oo8po5yk6f Жыл бұрын

Hello ! What do you you think do sled pull backwards are useful and safe for chondromalacia patella?

@karinadiaz6467 9 ай бұрын

Dr. El hydrolyzed collagen is good to take for this condition?

@jananee.m2136 Жыл бұрын

Hai dr, i am from India. I have grade 2 changes in patella...what type of exercise should I do to avoid pain?

@thegreatoutuber 9 ай бұрын

R u fine have same problem

@patriciamoraisarraes7539 Жыл бұрын

I learn so much❤

@epmanualphysicaltherapy Жыл бұрын

Hey Patricia, We are thrilled to hear that you are learning from our content! 🙌We hope that is providing you with some solutions and offering you healing. In case you are interested we do have additional information and exercises in a playlist we have compiled for knee cap help. You can check it out here: "Knee Cap Pain Help" kzfaq.info/sun/PLJVIPiFvv1mYRotMXuS6F94UZkGAIxsb2 We wish you all the best in your road to recovery! Please take care. 🧡

@patriciamoraisarraes7539 Жыл бұрын

@@epmanualphysicaltherapy thanks 🥰

@jouwayriyaable Жыл бұрын

Is it ok to work on the harmstrings?

@corinnaburrows3275 Жыл бұрын

Do you have any information on Hoffa’s fat pad syndrome?

@jouwayriyaable Жыл бұрын

same issue

@creatingart2024 9 ай бұрын

Can you recommend any foot strenghtening exercises?

@epmanualphysicaltherapy 9 ай бұрын

Hey Karen! We have some great content for that! Here is a link to a short playlist we have created to help strengthen the muscles of the feet: “Flat Feet Help” kzfaq.info/sun/PLJVIPiFvv1maDFBa7YUpn_egPHS6zJ-Rn

@Prisutni Жыл бұрын

PLS HELP Bro what should i do, i have patella alta, chondro malacia gr2, and Luxatio patellae recurrens M22, i never had any problems withy my joints, bones, muscles..., i trained a lot of different sports, and all of a sudden i started getting injured more and more...

@supernova2858 4 ай бұрын

Damn good 🔥🔥

@adolfthebeast5228 Жыл бұрын

Hey man really helpful video I’m 16.7 I got PFPS Oct 2021 till Current day by running and playing too much basketball with weak muscles and neglected the pain for 10 months until Aug 2022 I had enough and entered my 3rd physical therapy place. I did physical therapy 2 times but I just kept playing basketball and running with the same intensity so I never improved well recently I did stop everything and just focused on the pain and icing ect I say massive improvements with PT from Dec-Feb when i stopped and my knee pain was 90% gone. My only issue is I never went back to playing basketball or running not even cycling and now it’s end of March and my PFPS Or chrondomalcia idk if they are different I just assume I have it since it’s pain in knee cap, it hurts only to the touch when I press down on it. Now I worry that I never did anything of exercise so I may have set myself back i ice 3X a day both knees have this issue and it only hurts when I press down with pressure. Any tips and help? I’m desperate I need answers

@frezzingaces 11 ай бұрын

You should get a MRI to check the condition of the cartilage behind your kneecaps.

@srividyagorthi2553 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the information but recently I met with an accident and tore my ACL completely and dislocated my knee cap which caused little instability in knee cap (i don't have any knee instability caused by an ACL tear, so we chose rehab without surgery) and 1 or 2nd-grade chondromalacia... So, how should I work on my ACL and chondromalacia without injuring anything more? Please help

@kapilhiwale Жыл бұрын

I am having exactly same problem

@flexjay87 Жыл бұрын

If even half of the " Medical Pro's" talked about on this channel are doing it wrong, then we are in real trouble in America !

@epmanualphysicaltherapy Жыл бұрын

Hey @flexjay87, we're in serious trouble when it comes to advice on how to recover from problems like chondromalacia patella and avoiding more chronic problems like osteoarthritis. Our medical community is much more focused on surgery and medications. 🔪💊

@flexjay87 Жыл бұрын

@@epmanualphysicaltherapy , i may get a chance to prove your theory. My knees are bad from 3 Meniscus surgeries 10- 15 years ago. I have a new appt with an Ortho department in January, so i will be curious as to what they say. Appreciate your channel, and responding to my comment.

@user-sr3bm3en8p Жыл бұрын

Can I swim with chondromalacia ?!

@cscummingsiv Жыл бұрын

Hey doc, I've been doing PT for a couple of months now and even went and got hyaluronic acid + corticosteroid injections. I've seen a certain degree of improvement but nothing drastic. I'd really like to keep up with doing hypertrophy focused leg work in the gym and, obviously, the quads are a big part of that. If I can do a partial range leg extension, do you recommend against that? Same with squats, ex. squatting down at only a slight bend.

@mariamontijo7210 Жыл бұрын

David can I exercise while wearing those sleeves ony knees?

@ashwaniyadav5569 Жыл бұрын

I have partial acl tear and grade2 menescius tear and chondromalacia patella ,should i avoid vmo strengthening?

@kapilhiwale Жыл бұрын

Are you ok now i am also facing same problem

@ashwaniyadav5569 Жыл бұрын

@@kapilhiwale no

@KarenB-jp3tx 5 ай бұрын

I would think one should strength all areas involved prior to surgery.. Will make healing better. Easier.. not that im a fan of surgery but.m

@zoilamier191 Жыл бұрын

When I press the glutes when sitting down I notice that the quads do not get involved in that movement.

@nupuruils Жыл бұрын

Is it a good idea to take tendonitis supplements with collage peptide, vitamin c, glucosamine?

@nithyashree3979 Жыл бұрын

Yes..I have been taking supplements and I hardly have any pain doing normal activities

@annettecase878 Жыл бұрын

I think I have this but not diagnosed. What tests do I need. X-rays do say subtle condrocalcinosos

@user-zy4gv1fv9v 10 ай бұрын

It won't show up on X Ray. Do MRI and other tests

@riariaria Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this very helpful information! I’m two weeks into my first very painful flare up of Chondromalacia Patella. (I was diagnosed with it when I had an ACL repair but it never caused me any symptoms.) I’ve been trying to avoid ibuprofen so instead I’m using the Donjoy Iceman machine that they gave me for my ACL surgery. The cold water therapy works great for getting rid of the pain and swelling. At first I had to chill my kneecap pretty continuously and now I’m using it on and off throughout the day. I’ve also been taping my knee with KT tape which also seems to help. Using these techniques I’ve been able to start doing my glute and foot exercises several times a day. I’m making steady progress but I still can’t be up on my feet for any great length of time without the pain and some swelling returning. My question is, are these things okay to do for pain relief and how long does it usually take to recover?

@epmanualphysicaltherapy Жыл бұрын

Hey @riariaria, sorry to hear that you're dealing with chondromalacia patella :-( Yes, what you're doing is the best place to start getting the pain under control. Resting more at this point would be good to speed up your pain relief and decrease your swelling. You need to get off your feet as much as you can to allow the knee cap cartilage to rest and heal. You might even want to get on crutches or a cane for a time. You will be delayed in healing if you keep aggravating it when you stand or walk enough to make it hurt and swell again. It can take anywhere from 1 to 3+ months to heal from this properly. Once you've been able to tolerate walking and standing for more than 20 minutes without getting worse, then you're ready to start exercising to fix the root problem. Our 28 Day Knee Health & Wellness Boost Program is program is focused on fixing the root problem that causes chondromalacia in the knees. You can learn more about it here: www.epmanualphysicaltherapy.com/knee-health