i love how long his foot looks

the girl working at stores for free is so horrifyingly dystopian to me. late stage capitalism has led her to getting a job where she films herself doing free labor for a company she is not employed by in the hopes that enough people will watch her videos where she works for free so that she can in turn make money. i think im short circuiting.

the “working at walmart for free” girl exemplifies something vital about capitalism that doesn’t really talked about: that labor (ie the act of doing productive tasks) can be fun and rewarding in and of itself, and the hell of this system is being forced to do it for money in order to barely survive, not the act itself. my husband is one of those people that genuinely loved the organization and people-serving of retail, he just didn’t like being paid jack shit and treated like garbage and having to basically live at his store because they made him work so much. and also yeah the fact that her pastime becomes “content” and propaganda for walmart at the end of the day does super suck

that girl "working" for free should take that energy to her local food shelf or something. I volunteered at mine in high school and I genuinely had a really good time doing it, the only reason I stopped was because of COVID restrictions.

I’m an employee at the worlds largest Starbucks in Chicago and also a member of the union campaign at said store, and the boycott support is so appreciated:) the Stanley cup craze has been insane, especially because our store doesn’t even sell regular Starbucks merchandise, and all the surrounding stores sold out of them in like 2 hours. So lots of getting yelled at for a cup we were never able to sell in the first place all by people who are already breaking a boycott. Did want to mention if anyone reads it: the boycott is because Starbucks is suing its workers union due to its support for Palestine. PLEASE don’t harass employees or ask them to quit!!! If we LOSE all of the pro-union/pro-Palestine employees, our union fails and those workers will be replaced with people who don’t care and won’t support the union in the future! The BEST thing baristas can do (and that you can ask your barista friends to do) is join their Starbucks workers United union and take collective action with their coworkers and other partners across the country!! :)

god EVERY time i hear Jarvis say "i'm Jarvis" in the intro I expect Jordan to say "and I'm Johnson". I'm sorry Jordan

Starbucks barista here- I can’t speak if boycotts are working nationwide but I feel like my store is busier than ever and it’s absolutely infuriating. I can tell you 100% that the company is going balls to the wall trying to get people to come in tho. We’re having all sorts of stupid specials and things that we are NOT properly staffed to handle. KEEP BOYCOTTING

What I don't get about the free work girl is why she doesn't just do volunteer work (maybe she does)? Animal shelters appreciate someone to help out with small stuff. Even working part time at a community rec center or other public spaces that need help (libraries, schools, doctors offices). She seems like a sweet person just not aware. (saw she got a brand deal of course...) Also the coolest "cup" I have is a 1 L beaker with my name and graduation year etched on it. I used to work in the science stockroom at my college and it was a grad gift. Also thank you very much for your support of Palestine.

I think one of my favorite parts about the girl that works for free is that companies will *not* invite her to come work because of the liability. Imagine if she gets hurt doing free labor there. Or even worse, something she does causes a customer to be hurt while she's posing as an employee. She just starts stocking shelves with employee carts she sees sitting around, but what if that cart was fllled with recalled baby formula that was just removed from the shelf? It's just not smart or safe and it needs to stop.

I gotta say idk if starbucks planned on releasing this during the boycotts or before but this collab definitely saved them big time. It’s a real shame

why doesnt that girl just volunteer somewhere if she loves working for free so much. like somewhere where that would actually be very appreciated

y’all i work at a target okay. i pulled into the parking lot at 6:45 am (store opens at 8) and there were at least 50 people waiting outside the store, lawn chairs and blankets and all, even some with literal toddlers with them. so my manager tells me starbucks only had 35 cups in stock because surprise they don’t get 5000 of things in at once. boss goes outside to inform everyone there’s only 35 and it’s one per family, not per person. everyone is so upset they send the security guy outside. i was very curious to see what happened so i went up to the front to observe when we opened and there was like 100 people in the starbucks line. and my friend that works up there said they were getting constant phone calls asking about the godforsaken cups. anyways, i hate retail.

I love watching sad boyz because they always bring up this dumb new crap that the whole internet was freaking out over but I just missed.

Something about that Stanley Cup tiktok using My Love Mine All Mine by Mitski, *a song about her ability to love being the only thing in life that she has true ownership over,* is giving me absolute fucking tonal whiplash

That "Working somewhere for free until I get kicked out video" really irritated me. First of all, they're "working" for fun, doing whatever they want wherever they want, can take breaks at any point for as long as they want, and they don't actually have someone managing them and giving out tasks. Secondly, if Walmart is like the grocery chain I worked at, then that 9 hour shift is way longer than most actual employees will get. Where I worked, it was very difficult for anyone other than managers/supervisors to get full time hours, and we would get scheduled for just under the full time requirement. I don't know if it's their intention, but that video seems to make a mockery of the very real complaints employees in those stores have.

As an ex walmart employee i can whole heartedly tell everyone it is not fun. Dare i say traumatic at times because customers are usually horrible.

Can't wait to see you guys tomorrow live for January 6th!

As former Target team member, I recognized two of the vehicles as belonging to the fulfillment team. There's a high chance that girl unmade several online orders and caused a few people's orders to be late.

29:20 fun fact, the term for this in libraries is edging, because you're pulling the spines of the books to the edge of the shelf. This is the term acnowledged by the Library of Congress. Had to hold back a giggle when I first learned that lol

I get paid by the hour, and I get sent home from work early if there’s nothing to do. Sometimes that’s nice, but sometimes I need the money and it can make things hard. …something to consider if you’re “helping” in a place you don’t actually work.

All Sisyphus needed was a little screen that played KZfaq shorts

the fact theyre doing this is just proof that the boycotts ARE working. keep boycotting. 🇵🇸

Her stocking stuff from a cart drives me CRAZY cause what if that cart wasn't there to be stocked???? What if that food was expired or something?

One thing about the girl working for free is that what she is doing is literally hazardous. People get trained for a reason, and having an untrained person cleaning floors and bathrooms is a liability. IDC about the company getting sued or whatever, but the workers could definitely get in trouble for not kicking her out (and as someone that works in a grocery store) that's beyond annoying.

It’s no coincidence that we’ve been seeing more Starbucks advertisements, sponsorships and collabs within these past 3 months than we ever have in the past years… like does anyone actually recall seeing any Starbucks ads prior to the boycotts 😬

🍉 love hearing that y’all are boycotting Starbucks! And love your podcast!

i'm so glad you guys are being more vocal. please do NOT stop talking about p@le$stine & boycotting. please guys we need creators as big as ya'll to spread more awareness. we neeeeeeed more voices on this!!!!!!!

"A moment of silence for dead air" is hilarious

i love the mention of the starbucks boycott, but wanted to bring up that at least one philz location has also sent home employees for wearing pro palestine pins as of late december. 😢

Jarvis talking about having sensory issues when he hears 2 people talking over each other- THANK YOU. I sit in a lot of calls for work and whenever someone talks over someone else, I physically CRINGE. I thought it was just because I was annoyed at it but I do think it’s additionally a sensory issue cause it makes me SO UNCOMFY. (I do have ADHD so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised)

a few customers have also tried to just come in and do chores at a few stores i worked at. PLEASE DO NOT DO THAT. you have just become a liability, and the employee will end up in trouble for it. in retail, people could be trying to do that in order to steal, or even harass actual employees. in fast food, people can and will get hurt, and the store will be in chaos. from personal experience, definitely dont do it late night or when theres only one employee -- (a) now i cant lock up the store to use the bathroom or clean up; (b) i want to chill and now i have to clean too.

as someone who spent most of their young adulthood working in a store like that, facing is the best part of the shift. being able to turn customers away like that is a fucking dream. she doesn't have to check either - of course she's having fun.

Jordan talking about the inability to stop automatically organizing every shelf you see after working retail is so relatable lol

Even horrible jobs can be fun if you don't have to worry about money, don't have to deal with bosses, and can ignore customers.

The "working for free" feels like cosplaying being poor. Go work for free at a food pantry please

the people that take multiple of an item that CLEARLY other people are there for are so lame. Like we know youre just gonna sell it... icky. also the way she said "I just want a video this is funny" as if she wasnt part of that tomfoolery

Jordan dropping that he's naming his kid "Goku Vegeta Adika" was under appreciated

Just saw the part about 'fixing' the bathroom and got flashbacks to my first ever job, cleaning restrooms in a multiplex movie theatre. Though I was paid a small pittance for my labour there, much like the young lady in the video, I did not have any form of protective gear. It didn't even occur to me until my final day on the job (I was leaving for college) that I should have been wearing gloves the whole time, and they never mentioned nor offered any.

Jordan shouting out "I destabilize Kuala Lumpur as a bit" made me cackle so hard (shoutout other KL folks)

I love this podcast because i never know what's happening, and if i skip even 5 seconds through, i lose all context.

Jordan has made so many Jan 6th jokes that I do sort of expect an extra vid or sale tomorrow

Jordan and Jarvis (George?) speaking about movies has some of the most enjoyable sad boyz moments. I know Jordan wants to keep his channel on pause indefinitely, but if he suddenly started making video-essays or just rambled about movies on camera I would be all for it.

I will never feel bad about collecting anime figurines and manga now. At least I don’t spend 200 on an ugly ass cup.

That girl "working" in walmart feels like the song Common People 😂 fetishisation of the working class by people who are comfortable

I just wanted to say that this podcast is a such a safe space for me. I’m a first year uni student and I think I have undiagnosed learning difficulties (adhd and dyslexia) but every time I get overwhelmed I find a lot of comfort in these videos. Thank you.

Happy to hear you guys mention that you are boycotting Starbucks, this is the first time I’ve seen any of the KZfaqrs I watch say anything about Palestine in a video and it’s been really disappointing. Hope to hear more of that from u guys! Love u both

I loved hearing Jordan talk about movies!! You can tell he’s really passionate and knowledgeable about film! More Jordan and film!!

In my opinion Saltburn was more about love (obssesion) than class. Olliver doesn't want the prestigious life, at least not at first or authentically. He wants Felix, and, he is not in love with him, he WANTS him, although yeah, with the undertone of wanting to BE HIM. And so he lies to befriend him, he slithers his way around his family, but with him as the "final and ultimate prize". Once he realizes he can't have him, he ultimatelly kills him, and keeps consuming everything around him, kinda trying to desperately and aimlessly satisfy himself like he did with his grave. I think it gives the movie more sense, regarding its timeline as well, except for his lines at the end that, unlike them, "he knows how to work". That's actually the only thing that felt out of place to me.

While I'd never participate, I can at least semi-understand lining up starting at 3 am for a gaming console or something like that but all that ... for a damn cup?! I just do not understand. 😵 At first I thought it was about THE Stanley cup and was totally confused 🏑🏒

I would be all for this free labor thing becoming a trend, if people would do the free labor at small businesses rather than gigantic corporations that already don't really pay their actual employees

I work at Walmart and the only thing keeping me there is them paying me for whatever hours they decide I get

"A moment of silence for 'dead air'' really got me.

i’m a starbucks barista and we get like 5 calls a day about the stupid but pretty pink stanley cup and the red one too

I’m so glad you said that about the ending of Saltburn!!!!! It completely erases any meaning/message the film might have had because it’s not about the middle class anymore it’s just this one insane guy. The ambiguity was so interesting and I was so excited to have discussions with my friends about “do you think X was planned?” But… nevermind lol it just tells you exactly what happened with no room for interpretation

When they were talking about the tiktokker that works at big retail places for free, it just made me think about how there are in fact lots of people out there who genuinely enjoy doing mindless labor like that (I am one of them, mindlessly making pizzas was one of my favorite jobs) what is not enjoyable is the fact that these kinds of jobs don’t pay anyone nearly enough to survive, so that’s the only reason no one wants to do them. If we lived in a world where we had universal basic income that covered living costs, a good amount of people would probably flock back to food service/retail jobs just to have something to do during the day because no matter what conservatives think, humans generally don’t like just sitting around doing absolutely nothing all day; if you do, it’s because you’re totally drained emotionally and/or physically

Jordan's point about queerness in the fall of the house of usher was really thought provoking, because all of Mike flanigans other work is so respectful of queerness; the difference is, the queer characters in hill house, bly manor, and midnight mass are all lesbians. it's a very interesting example of that unconscious bias against bisexuality

Jordan in the thumbnail let's go

man sad boyz just makes me feel happy ironically

I love the lady working for free calling them "her customers"

my brother works at a Starbucks inside a grocery store that’s not target and they’re not selling the cup there but he’s been incredibly annoyed by the amount of people asking about it and constantly calling the store about it

Yesss boycott Starbucks 🍉 so happy to hear that you’re boycotting them too!

stanley cup collectors r the very worst ppl imagine collecting something specifically made for you to only need one of

The thing i have a problem with is that it's giving Walmart free labour

the "i stand with palestine" pfp on the target girl's comment section as if target doesn't sell israeli goods/starbucks products, have literal starbucks locations IN THEIR STORES, sodastream, PUMA, etc like come on man

"My kid wont play football, too much bumping." "My kid wont play football, too scared." I love these guys❤

That girl working for "free" genuinely disturbs me. Like... the idea of providing your labor for free, to a multi-billion dollar corporation that SHOULD be able to pay its workers better is a genuinely offensive concept. And, her little line in that first video... "I'll be the best employee they never had" is an insanely condescending thing to say. It sounds like the words of a person who has not yet had to struggle for her survival. My original comment was a little more charitable to her... at least, until I saw that she basically had a brand sponsoring her to do this. Now, I've gone from "it's fucking weird, but her terrible choice of hobbies is her own" to "what an absolutely fucking horrific and dystopian thing that's allowed to exist". Pay your employees better. Pay your employees better. Pay your employees better. Pay your employees better. PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES BETTER!

As someone who likely has hEDS i also sit in absolutely deranged ways im pretty sure the Jordan Sitting is an EDS thing LOL solidarity

I 1,000 can relate to Jordan's constant movement and changing of positions. I do the exact same thing. Even when I'm alone in my office concentrating on a task, I am constantly moving. I have to get rip roaringly high so I cannot physically move my muscles to lay still.

As a fellow hEDSer, we sit weird because of how our body needs to support our hypermobile joints. Jordan, I feel you about sitting weird, but just know that a whole ass community of EDS, newly dx'ed or not, are so glad to have you apart of our dazzle. If you want some validation, hEDStok and OT/PTs of hypermobile patients address this all the time 😊

i work at starbucks and omfg the stanley thing. they gave like three per store ish and it was a wee bit feral. just get an etsy knockoff or pay a facebook mom to customize your normal cup... or face the fact you've got problems and issues w fomo. also the new reusable cup thing in mobile/drive thru is so..... love love love it :pained face emoji: would maybe actually love it if i wasn't working under expectations and the stress of company performance standards and customers daily.

I live for the rage Jarvis has at the realisation that the girl working for "free" is doing an ad

Reminds me when Mr. Beast asked his fans to organize his rebranded chocolate bar stands at stores. And people did it. The world is great. The only reason that girl thought it was fun is because she was just organizing shelves which practically no employee does becauae they are to busy getting yelled at by management, dealing with customers, fulfilling online orders, cashing people out, restocking from inventory, price changing. Basically the crap that nobody likes doing.

She had her bare hands on the Target bathroom floor. She. Had. Her. Bare. Hands. On. The. Target. Bathroom. Floor.

“einstein was on the flight logs” almost made me piss my pants laughing

I HATE HOW SHE SAYS 'my customers' LIKE... ew ??? and... confusing, like they arnt 'yours' and.. your not really working there. its.. ugh its just not good

i love jarvis’ little voices

Idk about them but when I worked retail (because I had to) stocking the shelves was the best part because it meant I didn’t have to get yelled at by strangers

To Jordan's comment about working in retail- I'm also a former retail worker and there are still times when I'll organize some shit in a store, it just depends on my mood and if I'm in a hurry or not. 😂 The first retail job I ever worked called it "recovery/recovering", so that just stuck in my mind and I'll forever call it that, even though different jobs called it different things. Anyways, solidarity to all my friends still doing that shit. If I could still physically stand for that long I'd be still in it too. ✊

That girl working at target literally put up a cart that’s meant for online orders so that poor fulfillment employee was most definitely screwed because those orders are timed and clear out once the products are scanned.

Yes Jordan get into that film analysis!!!!!

Failed rise and grind for 2024 here! Thank you boys for the sad yet somehow uplifting videos to help me through the days!

44:46 no shade to the transcriber, I'm sure they're working on a deadline, but "the haunting bit" turning into "the horny bit" is so fucking funny also thanks a ton for subtitles! i'm hard of hearing and this made the viewing experience so so much smoother, thank you!

I just started watching Sad Boyz like in November and this quickly became one of my favourite podcasts, I binge old episode when I have nothing else to listen to lol.

They shot Felix like a goddamn perfume commercial.

This might be the funniest episode ever. Please be unhinged and rambly more often

I found this podcast about a month ago and have been slowly going through different episodes, just whichever one popped up next, and honestly it helped me get through a particularly unique and difficult holiday season, so thank you both for all the work you've put into this and for being so genuine and open about so many different topics. Some of the episodes made me cry because I felt so seen and having this podcast to listen to really helped me get through these last few weeks. I wish you both the best and I hope you have a great 2024 :))

Week after week, you guys have the best timing with your uploads. 😍🤩

jordan you should do movie reviews or sumn on your channel your insight's super interesting to listen to

Yay a new sad boyz! I just got back to uni and the boyz make me feel right at home.

im so glad yall talked about saltburn i just watched it and its like running around in my brain

love you guys

i just happened to have watched saltburn right before this episode. really enjoyed your critiques of the movie and agreed with a lot of what was discussed.

Thanks for all your hard work, Jacob!! Happy New Year, Boyz 🎉

Jarvis I’m having the exact same type of new year as you, like I wanna do so much stuff but finding the energy is like pushing a boulder up a hill every day for the rest of my life

that girl working for free also used to do "staying at all you can eat places as long as possible and would just loiter/"eat" for 8 hours until she'd get kicked out

Love y’all

jordan did you know wilko is closed now

I'm happy you guys posted today I really needed a pick me up

That girl "working" for wal-mart for free just comes across as corporate shill PR bs. Sure she's doing stuff just for funsies. But no actual employee gets to tell a customer "sorry I don't work here to stay on task." They have to stop doing it, and help customer, then try to get back to their area. And that's if they aren't stopped again by more customers or managers asking them to do other things. And one other thing to point out. Retail employees have to sort and organize everyday because customers come in and make a mess. They just think it's someone else's job to clean up after them. I've worked these jobs and seen parents let their kids run down an aisle, I just zoned, and mess it all up. Sure it's not the customer's job to clean up, but it's also a responsibility of a customer to not make a mess. I've also seen customers remove all the items from a shelf, toss on the floor, to get the item in the back and just walk away. Just because the aisle is a mess doesn't mean an employee isn't doing their job. Sometimes it's a customer making a mess and leaving it. Because "they don't work there."

jordan drop the letterboxd