The 2022 Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro is Great But Also Terrible

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Chris ONeill

Chris ONeill

Күн бұрын

As a sum of its parts, the decade-old Toyota 4Runner is pretty much terrible, but on the other hand, there's really nothing else like it on the market.
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@nicholaslee5310
@nicholaslee5310 10 ай бұрын
This guy clearly has no idea who buys 4Runners and what they’re interested in. All the stuff he trashes, like the power train, are exactly the reasons people buy these.
@ProCoach2373
@ProCoach2373 2 ай бұрын
We just bought this exact truck. It's incredible! If you are a 4runner person, you can throw what this guy said out the window. He doesn't get it...
@rand0mGT
@rand0mGT Жыл бұрын
I’d take mechanical/analog over electronics any day
@rushmoresociety2577
@rushmoresociety2577 Жыл бұрын
Toyota accounting thanks you.
@christianbolt5761
@christianbolt5761 11 ай бұрын
It was a huge advancement for my wife and I. First car with a screen and USB. Just wish it had a CD player.
@FirstLast-mo3vd
@FirstLast-mo3vd 7 ай бұрын
I have 2017 TRD in Cement color, it has 18K miles and could not be happier with its solid performance over the last 6 years! Not a single complaint. The simplicity and absence of latest technology is the key to its reliability
@Rmachine429
@Rmachine429 11 ай бұрын
Excellent review/perspective. Going to try one equipped with KDSS (if it's not sold beforehand). Any thoughts on the windshield design (relative step angle), prone to debris hits etc, and wind noise relative to the exhaust tone you noted?
@ZephyrRandD
@ZephyrRandD Жыл бұрын
Pros and cons... Although, some of us would happily trade the most modern advancements for proven (almost 10 years FJ/4Rnr) long-term reliability. That being said; a good 8 or 10 speed transmission option would be welcomed if reliable.
@paulelledge8977
@paulelledge8977 Жыл бұрын
And better crash test ratings
@rushmoresociety2577
@rushmoresociety2577 Жыл бұрын
And better camera made after 2000, lol. Which, you know, would cost them an extra 75 bucks, and not impact the reliability at all. Come to think of it, a ton of modern (I mean things made after 2009) conveniences would not impact the famous reliability. At all. But, people keep buying them, they keep raising prices and never adding basically anything. 🙄 Toyota would do better...if their customers demanded it...
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures Жыл бұрын
Great review as always! I really like the simplicity of the 4Runner, but there are things that really need updated/fixed (especially the cameras!). The off-road tuning is excellent and one of the smoothest at traveling higher speeds off-pavement. Certainly a fun vehicle! The trailer wiring connectors are way too far in, many trailers will need extended wiring to reach that far (same thing on the Land Cruiser 200).
@ChrisONeillUSA
@ChrisONeillUSA Жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt! The trailer wiring connectors seem WAY far back, so I'm glad to know it's not just me.
@SamGullett
@SamGullett Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you mentioned the GX460 as an alternative to the 5th gen 4runner. I cross shopped 460's & 5th gen's and found the used 460's to be a much better deal for the money and the amount of standard equipment on a used GX compared to the used 5th gen market. If you're looking at one of these 5th gen's used, consider looking into a GX!
@njrivetelite
@njrivetelite Жыл бұрын
The GX460 is an awesome vehicle but I still prefer the 4Runner.. for dumb reasons.. but still prefer it. 3 things. GX requires Premium Gas And the Rear door swings open instead of opening like a hatch.. I'm in nyc almost every day.. I need the hatch. Plus I love that rear 4runner window feature.
@ricric8348
@ricric8348 Жыл бұрын
Interesting I wonder this.compared to the FJ cruiser which is more updated? which.is.still made in other countries.
@gavinhashemi7214
@gavinhashemi7214 Жыл бұрын
I am just interested to know, if this is a terrible old school car with 15 years same generation, why did you buy it?
@abeardedcyclist
@abeardedcyclist Жыл бұрын
Wow - This is the first KZfaq video I come across that says the 4Runner PRO is terrible … next video … Corrolla is unreliable …
@justahumbledude
@justahumbledude 11 күн бұрын
You can't be all things to all people....those that buy this vehicle know its value.
@HighAltitudesCO
@HighAltitudesCO Жыл бұрын
Good analysis. I passed up on the TRD Pro and went with a 2021 4Runner Venture, the 2 year wonder wedged between the Off Road and the Pro. KDSS and the silver TRD wheels make it a buy.
@ChrisONeillUSA
@ChrisONeillUSA Жыл бұрын
Well done!
@sampathranaweera6766
@sampathranaweera6766 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, lovely video
@josefmd
@josefmd Жыл бұрын
Love my 17 Cement 4R Pro. Has everything I need and doesn’t have the bullshit I don’t! IMO the 2015-2019’s are the yrs to own! Before they started putting nanny stuff on them! The 4.0 V6 and tranny are bullet proof! Good luck getting that reliability with the next gen!
@rushmoresociety2577
@rushmoresociety2577 Жыл бұрын
I hate bullshit. Like, psst, a camera made this decade. Pass. Lol
@macscvelopopperdonuts2169
@macscvelopopperdonuts2169 Жыл бұрын
Cool story Katie Holmes.
@canalesivany
@canalesivany Жыл бұрын
I take the slow 4.0 and speed transmission over oil leaks and recalls from bronco and fiat wrangler. Land Rover please let not star problems under 300 miles. 4.0 engine and 5 speed transmission can run for 300k miles with minor problems
@damnjustassignmeone
@damnjustassignmeone Жыл бұрын
Completely agree about the value of a TRD Pro. It’s mostly an appearance package compared to the TRD off road premium. Only the tires and suspension separates it really.
@macscvelopopperdonuts2169
@macscvelopopperdonuts2169 Жыл бұрын
Bet you have neither or can’t afford a pro
@damnjustassignmeone
@damnjustassignmeone Жыл бұрын
@@macscvelopopperdonuts2169 Wow, you’re so friendly.
@whocaresjustdoit
@whocaresjustdoit 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I own a 2022 4Runner TRD Pro in this exact color. 18 months and 55,000 miles later, I can say that it's not fair to review/test drive this vehicle on-road/in the city because that's not what it's made for (the TRD Pro, specifically). I've done quite a bit of offroading and am on the second set of Fox shocks right now, and off the pavement it's a fantastic vehicle. The wobbling, the nose dive, soft suspensions, loose steering are all made for offroading purposes. But I get your points. The MPG, the TRD exhaust (which sounds really good if you're doing 35-40 mph high speed offroading) is really annoying going up hills. The transmission jerks a lot going up mountain passes at 70 mph. Most people who buy these TRD Pros only drive them in the city anyways. Most reviewers will review this truck from this perspective. I don't agree but I guess that's understandable. For a commuter, it's a terrible vehicle lol. If anyone is looking for a reliable, comfortable commuter then the LX460 is a much better choice. But if you're going to really use the TRD Pro's capability, there are not that many trails you cannot go. As for value wise, I think the TRD Pro is fantastic value for straight out of factory capability (KDSS cannot compare to the Fox shocks on the TRD Pro. Trust me, I've owned and off-road in both). It also hold its value so well. I bought mine at $55k (MSRP) and after 55,000 miles later in 18 months I can trade it in for $45K-$46K, pretty much breakeven. Besides the Ford Raptor I don't think there are many vehicles that can do that.
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Жыл бұрын
You may wish to try the Lexus GX460. All of your problems solved plus more. V8, 6 speed, KDSS, ATRAC plus lux. The 4runner is for offroading, a 10 speed transmission offroading would be a nightmare 😆 You are correct in saying TRD Pro is a marketing gimmick
@ChrisONeillUSA
@ChrisONeillUSA Жыл бұрын
Agreed that the GX solves most of the 4Runner's problems. If only you could get a used GX without terrible infotainment. I've off-roaded vehicles with 4-, 5-, 6-, 8-, 9-, and 10-speed automatic transmissions. I can see why someone would assume fewer gears are better off-road, but in reality that just isn't the case. More gears allow for a lower first gear ratio both on and off-road. Proper programming easily gets around the 'gear hunting' that I assume people fear will come with these higher-gear transmissions during technical scenarios. I agree that 'new' doesn't always mean 'better', but this is a case where Toyota is just exploiting that idea to get away with selling decades-old technology on which it makes a massively high margin.
@charlesmack6235
@charlesmack6235 Жыл бұрын
I would take an old school v6 over the new school v4 turbo charged that will be in the new generation 4runner that will be coming out.. I heard the new Tundra engine is having problems and having a lot o recalls.
@mosthated8190
@mosthated8190 8 күн бұрын
Toyota is meant to keep things simple and reliable. They are under powered for the same reason … to keep them reliable! People slap superchargers on these and are still reliable if you want that extra power. Other than that reliability is what Toyota was striving for and that’s what they achieved with these 4runners
@rand0mGT
@rand0mGT Жыл бұрын
53k?! Which dealership you got that from?!
@sha6mm
@sha6mm Жыл бұрын
Anderson Weber Dubuque IA picked up mine at MSRP
@anjansingh3093
@anjansingh3093 Жыл бұрын
even a new bmw x7 seat belt is same. not sure what you meant by seat belt is from generation past, probably you wanted like just look at seat belt and it automatically lock in.
@kevinbreese5739
@kevinbreese5739 Жыл бұрын
for $55k doesn't it have remote start? I don't see it on the key fob...
@Cortezuma
@Cortezuma Жыл бұрын
It has it built into the key fob (press the lock button 3 times and hold it in on the 3rd) and also on the Toyota app on your phone.
@njrivetelite
@njrivetelite Жыл бұрын
I want the TRD Offroad Premium so I can upgrade & add the things I want and still gives me the off road controls I want. The lack of the latest tech is fine with me. Ill sacrifice tech for superior reliability. I want to own it for 15-20yrs. Lots of the silly tech it doesn’t have.. Ill end up adding anyway. I hate panoramic sunroofs.. I enjoy using the regular sunroof.. I want most of the roof to be rugged. Panoramic is not rugged & belongs on something like the Highlander.
@yourdailyblockchain
@yourdailyblockchain Жыл бұрын
I love my Lunar Rock but have to admit that color is starting to grow on me....
@RGVReelAngler
@RGVReelAngler Жыл бұрын
Markups on the Pro are ridiculous. In the market for one but gonna have to wait a few months and see if things change.
@ted101975
@ted101975 Жыл бұрын
Chicago area is 10 grand at 2 dealerships
@mikelaughlin270
@mikelaughlin270 Жыл бұрын
Look around online, there are lots of dealerships that sell at MSRP with no mark ups. Shipping a vehicle is surprisingly cheap. A few hundred dollars and you can have it shipped right to your door.
@sha6mm
@sha6mm Жыл бұрын
I just picked one up at MSRP
@ted101975
@ted101975 Жыл бұрын
@@sha6mm where?
@sha6mm
@sha6mm Жыл бұрын
@@ted101975 Anderson Weber Toyota Dubuque IA sold me mine MSRP
@josephchiarello11
@josephchiarello11 Жыл бұрын
I like the roof rack I think it works fine and looks great
@DariusJones05
@DariusJones05 Жыл бұрын
Definitely cheaper to buy new than used lmao
@TopHatGent
@TopHatGent Жыл бұрын
You can say that again, trading in my 19 at just 33k miles. The fox struts and shocks keep failing. I have a new found hate for anything FOX racing.
@peteliotas9456
@peteliotas9456 Жыл бұрын
I am very happy and pleased with my 2019 4runner absolutely I am 👍👍
@sha6mm
@sha6mm Жыл бұрын
Approach Departure and Break-over watch Ben Hardy’s off road review where he takes the TRD Pro it’s more than capable for 99.9 percent of what people do. I bought one for a Hunting truck because it can carry 4 men and dogs in the back or into the Mountains Elk hunting ! I bought this to replace a 2008 GMC Sierra 1500 Z71 4x4 and I know this 4Runner is more capable offroad.
@ChrisONeillUSA
@ChrisONeillUSA Жыл бұрын
Relativity is key here, and the 4Runner has a significantly worse approach/breakover/departure angle than its competitors. But the fact that it still offers useful-enough off-road performance says that maybe we shouldn't be so worried about these figures in the real world.
@BS2Dos
@BS2Dos Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@DaveAllenPhoto
@DaveAllenPhoto Жыл бұрын
And in his next video, Chris will show us why the Toyota Corolla is terrible when used for high clearance off-roading... 🤨
@YWUBHYD
@YWUBHYD Ай бұрын
Love the exhaust no matter what lol fight me 😂😂😂
@joeschlepp
@joeschlepp Жыл бұрын
should be called pea soup green
@kennyfoster4733
@kennyfoster4733 Жыл бұрын
Man you complain a lot about stuff that actually works well
@evelyn-ig8od
@evelyn-ig8od Жыл бұрын
It will last forever
@rickdougherty1371
@rickdougherty1371 Жыл бұрын
Objectivity...Nill.
@roadglide1142
@roadglide1142 Жыл бұрын
You obviously don’t know crap about this vehicle. It’s built for its longevity & reliability & off road ability! It will be still running 30 years from now & you will probably be in a old age home by then 😂
@merlinjones6485
@merlinjones6485 Жыл бұрын
Great vehicle, UGLY color! Lots of speakers, but no CD PLAYER! The roof rack does suck. Are they trying to lose the interest in buyers? NO CD PLAYER, damn!
@theinstructor2687
@theinstructor2687 Жыл бұрын
"no CD PLAYER!" Really? I haven't played CDs in a vehicle, that actually has a player, in a long time. In my 4Runner TRD Off Road Premium, I either listen to Amazon Music Unlimited, Spotify, or sat radio. Depending on what place or situation I'm in. I don't enjoy carrying and shuffling CDs.
@rushmoresociety2577
@rushmoresociety2577 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't have a VHS tape shot either 🤔
@macscvelopopperdonuts2169
@macscvelopopperdonuts2169 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the 4runner thinks you are fugly. Douche
@justahumbledude
@justahumbledude 11 күн бұрын
We need the CD changer under the driver's seat too. Get on that Toyota. lol
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