The 30 Most Mind-Blowing Games Examples of Retro Pixel Art

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@theharbingerofconflation
@theharbingerofconflation 2 жыл бұрын
I finally understand why images from my childhood don't evoke the same feelings on the mounds of emulators I have tried. Thank you.. I believe I should track down actual hardware
@crtified1001
@crtified1001 2 жыл бұрын
Emulators can do a lot of this too, if you use the right ones (the generic, standard RetroArch has a lot of this stuff built in), and turn on the appropriate settings. They're not quite up to the quality standards of filtering+scaling in RetroTinks et al, but it'll get you "most" of the way there, for free.
@islandboy9381
@islandboy9381 2 жыл бұрын
@@crtified1001 That's nice but the real reason to still go for a CRT with retro gaming is no motion blur and zero input lag. OLED screens are getting close to that with black frame insertion but still no cigar. Best solution for now, if you still want the benefits of emulators like save states, is to get a good CRT PC monitor (they are a lot cheaper than TV's) and use CRT shaders or SwithcRes.
@crtified1001
@crtified1001 2 жыл бұрын
​@@islandboy9381 It's true, those are some of the remaining advantages of CRTs which have not been addressed yet by newer technology. They matter little to me, personally. I have several CRTs including PC monitors, and I'm rarely tempted to use them these days. Using a MiSTer means that what little input lag remains via the LCD is (to me) virtually meaningless in any practical sense, and frankly I don't see motion blur. I'm sure there are more exacting and discerning judges out there like yourself, but you can't apply your own standards to everyone.
@angelarturokooistra7671
@angelarturokooistra7671 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, a matured conversation here. CRT technology is always I prefer for Retro gaming. But with modern games it can work pretty well too. The smoothness and clean look makes enhance games significantly
@zacharyessey5904
@zacharyessey5904 2 жыл бұрын
I know the feeling. I didn't realise that me as a child was playing fantastic looking games and it was that I was playing on a CRT tv. I think that the MegaDrive collection on my PS4 has the features to make it happen, but with my other games, I will need a CRT tv.
@Mr.Welbig
@Mr.Welbig 2 жыл бұрын
I love all the examples you use with dithering specifically. Crazy how pixel art games can go from looking like crap with sharp pictures, to having so much depth and texture when CRT masks are used.
@andremalerba5281
@andremalerba5281 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was thinking the same thing! Dithering, scanlines and shadowmasks really change the visuals! I don't get people who like raw sharp pixels! I guess they probably never lived the CRT era and doesn't understand how it supposed to look!
@Nordlicht05
@Nordlicht05 2 жыл бұрын
@@andremalerba5281 there are games where it can look good. I think mostly with plane colors.
@StraightOuttaJarhois
@StraightOuttaJarhois 2 жыл бұрын
@@andremalerba5281 I grew up with CRTs and I never use scanline filters, but that's because most of them tend to be really bad. At least that was the case when I first started seeing them, 15 or 20 years ago. This video has definitely made me reconsider my stance though.
@rumotu
@rumotu 2 жыл бұрын
​@@StraightOuttaJarhois yup. Filters make it just look shit. I actually considering getting crt monitor. Shame can't allow it now as I have no room for it. But definetly get one when I finally buy a house/apartment.
@Neonmirrorblack
@Neonmirrorblack 2 жыл бұрын
@@StraightOuttaJarhois You should seriously look into Retroarch. While you can use generic overlays for scan lines with it, they have an insanely huge selection of actual scan line shaders, and if your PC is strong enough can come eerily close to looking like the real thing. You can have it look like a very sharp Trinitron, or even a crappy, composite TV image, bad blooming and all.
@OrangeGeemer
@OrangeGeemer 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. A little tag indicating if it's RGB, S-Video or Composite would be helpful.
@cheplays2482
@cheplays2482 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's just RGB vs composite.
@FezTheSpaceBiker
@FezTheSpaceBiker 2 жыл бұрын
The non CRT side is likely the RGB
@OrangeGeemer
@OrangeGeemer 2 жыл бұрын
@@cheplays2482 not at all, the pixelated images are all raw image, the crt side changes from composite, s video and rgb. The shaking blurry images are composite, the sharper images could be s video or rgb. This is why a tag would be helpful, not everyone knows the difference or fully understand what the video is about.
@cheplays2482
@cheplays2482 2 жыл бұрын
@@OrangeGeemer I get it now. My bad.
@ericstaples7220
@ericstaples7220 2 жыл бұрын
It's CRT.
@ripoutyourprejudice
@ripoutyourprejudice 2 жыл бұрын
Nonthing compares to the cozyness of a small glowing CRT with your favorite console, a blanket with your favorite food and a rainy day outside.
@islandboy9381
@islandboy9381 2 жыл бұрын
A potentially cool idea for a video would be to play modern indie games with pixel art graphics on a CRT TV/monitor to see how modern pixel art would look on it. Games like Sonic Mania, Shovel Knight, Owlboy, Hyper Light Drifter, Celeste ect come to mind.
@zacharyessey5904
@zacharyessey5904 2 жыл бұрын
Yeeees, this!
@superfightman2053
@superfightman2053 2 жыл бұрын
Sonic Mania actually has this built in and it definitely looks better with it in my opinion. Stuff like Hyper Light Drifter would be interesting as hell, though. It's got an artstyle that feels like it was made with more modern displays in mind (well I mean it literally was lol) in the way squares and rectangles are constantly repeated motifs across everything. Stark angular shapes and almost no gradients. I suspect it might actually look worse with a CRT filter. This goes for a lot of modern indie games with pixel art, actually. Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery and Super Time Force immediately come to mind.
@ibrohiem
@ibrohiem 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of the modern retro pixel art look like shit because they're obviously faking the pixels, but not exactly counting the pixels out. Old-school 8 bit and 16 bit had pixel restrictions that developers actually stuck to. The retro pixel games seems to be mashing all kinds of pixel counts together.
@islandboy9381
@islandboy9381 2 жыл бұрын
@@superfightman2053 Sonic Mania actually is 240p in it's pixels with the engine that ran Genesis remasters and yea other indie games don't do that but simply try to emulate that look, however I think it would still be interesting
@skillaxxx
@skillaxxx 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure to include Songs of Conquest, they really nailed it on modern screens already, would love to see how that turns out.
@Devdev009
@Devdev009 2 жыл бұрын
Much like when comics were printed with halftone color, the artists made their choices with those limitations in mind.
@wobblingpixels3921
@wobblingpixels3921 2 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@l1305
@l1305 2 жыл бұрын
If someone wants to replicate the crt style on an emulator and doesn't have a crt monitor or something, an easy way is enabling scanlines, but adding the bilinear filter (only scanlines with sharp pixels makes the image just look bad and darker) even tho, some emulators like k fuson or retroarch have filters that can emulate the CRT blending 99% perfect, however in retroarch is a bit tricky finding the right filter
@crtified1001
@crtified1001 2 жыл бұрын
Imo, if you're in RetroArch, then your first port-of-call can simply be to enable the "CRT easymode" preset. As a starting point. An easy one. Then, explore further from there.
@kevinfromsales9445
@kevinfromsales9445 Жыл бұрын
I think for Sega Genesis the best shader is one that simulates NTSC composite video. While for NES up to PS1 is one that simulates either S-Video or RGB.
@MrFoofles
@MrFoofles 2 жыл бұрын
This really emphasizes how much thought and care goes into pixel art. All the shapes and textures they imply really came to life on the CRT. The aesthetic just has such a video game feel to it that's beautiful in its own way. It's hard to capture the same feeling with CRT filters alone.
@SpaceTurd69
@SpaceTurd69 Жыл бұрын
bro, seeing the CRT images hit me with such a huge way of nostalgia and feels. i have to figure this out or just get a CRT monitor lol.
@QuantifyUncertainty
@QuantifyUncertainty 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. Far too many retro gaming creators just show us the raw pixels without applying any sort of filtering (and many of them seem to think this looks better? smh). To me that's such an eye-sore an not how these graphics were meant to be seen!
@devan_danger
@devan_danger 2 жыл бұрын
the trouble is video streaming sites like youtube and twitch use heavy compression on their vods that really screw up the image of games with with scanlines or other shadow masks
@Tethius1
@Tethius1 2 ай бұрын
This is an excellent showcase of the difference between raw sprites and properly filtered sprites. I use reshade to apply crt filters on all my old games. Through emulation front ends like retroarch to steam re releases, proper crt filters are an absolute must for older pixel based games. I have been explaining this fact for years, and have met much opposition, for some reason...
@littleboatvids
@littleboatvids 2 жыл бұрын
Love it love it One thing you didn't show off is text. Soul Calibur 2 (mine's on PS2 through s-video) is a game with lots of small text in the mission descriptions. I've found that the same shadow mask that you use in the video is really good at cleaning up text and making it super clear.
@retromuel
@retromuel 2 жыл бұрын
You've used some fantastic examples there. Composite/scanlines/crt filters are absolutely transformative. I'm going to "downgrade" to composite with my Retrotink 5X and have a play around with it. Great vid.
@alexojideagu
@alexojideagu 2 жыл бұрын
I get so frustrated telling people this in retro videos, Raw Pixels look horrific, and were not what 2D games ever looked like. I argue with people who just don't get it, and they won't use filters.
@crestofhonor2349
@crestofhonor2349 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexojideagu it’s still better than those smoothing filters
@femto8402
@femto8402 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! The filters looks amazing
@NullyBird
@NullyBird 2 жыл бұрын
10/10 video, I've only seen these examples on image forums; it's great that they're available for the masses now.
@djm9937
@djm9937 2 жыл бұрын
Looking so much better with scanlines. We are missing out a lot in the LED era
@alexojideagu
@alexojideagu 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you my God. I keep telling people this in retro videos, Raw Pixels look horrific, and were not what 2D games ever looked like. I argue with people who just don't get it, and they won't use scanline filters. Atari Lynx games really suffer too.
@djm9937
@djm9937 2 жыл бұрын
I see the scanlines stop at the Dreamcast. Would you say it's not required for the consoles that followed ?
@alexojideagu
@alexojideagu 2 жыл бұрын
@@armamentarmedarm1699 Some of the filters were/are horrific, but I found there was always way to find a decent filter setting in Mame even 20 years ago. I had a 19 inch CRT PC monitor so it looked a lot more convincing. But those filters where the lines remained in place look disgusting especially doubled. You had to configure or find the right settings.
@alexojideagu
@alexojideagu 2 жыл бұрын
@@djm9937 Dead or Alive 2 on the PS2, when you switched it to RGB scart, the scanlines, full screen 60fps really make a huge difference on a PAL CRT. Although in Pro Evolution Soccer the picture quality suffered in sharpness.
@kbxthegamemaster06
@kbxthegamemaster06 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexojideagu I didn't grow up playing games on crts but I use the CRT filters on some retro games and it looks like 10 times better
@vsolyomi
@vsolyomi 2 жыл бұрын
You make me relive my childhood with these. Thanks!
@KATFYR
@KATFYR 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! What settings are you using on the RetroTINK? Somehow, the CRT filters don't look this good on my end.
@boomersydephil2843
@boomersydephil2843 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, i love comparisons like these
@wihatmi5510
@wihatmi5510 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I never thought the diffference was so enormous. You helped my understanding of 2D graphics massively.
@rhtr.
@rhtr. 2 жыл бұрын
WOW 😯 Amazing job with this video!
@Grail_Quest
@Grail_Quest 2 жыл бұрын
Please, let me go back and live it all again! So many wonderful memories in here. I miss when games looked like this!
@xtremegold2950
@xtremegold2950 2 жыл бұрын
the sega megadrive takes advantages with composite cables adding the ilusion of more color on screen
@BitsBeats
@BitsBeats 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I've seen on the channel. Your content is getting better every day more and more! (Very well chosen music too ;))
@wobblingpixels3921
@wobblingpixels3921 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks in all regards ;)
@mechanicalpants
@mechanicalpants 2 жыл бұрын
I find that activating the scanline effect in MAME and playing around with the different effects that it offers (through HLSL) really helps make games look a lot better even if not as good as original hardware it still gets really close. Thanks for this video 😊
@LeSoing
@LeSoing Жыл бұрын
All these old games were designed ON crt screens, so all of the color and contrast decisions made in the illustration are suited gor the display. But when in the sharp pixel-perfect format, the coloring and contrast gets all messed up. Also the 'softening' effect comes from how CRTs don't use pixels, instead using a dense rgb color mask system, as well as the horizontal blurring from the electron gun's movement.
@RawwestHide
@RawwestHide 7 ай бұрын
Very nostalgic and instructive video. I had not seen many of these games in this form since I was a child. The games straight up did not look that bad back then, it's not just a nostalgia effect. Modern high-res pixel art (which is still beautiful in its own right) kinds of muddles the sleight of hand that they were doing back then.
@therockcims4166
@therockcims4166 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, until a few years ago I started to learn about the old tube TVs and how pixel art games should really look like, and although as a kid I played retro console games, I did it through emulators on a CRT monitor, with a clean image not much different from an LED or LCD monitor. Now that I know how it works, I use quality shaders to imitate those old TVs in retroarch, achieving correct results. Even understanding that tastes are tastes, I can't understand how there are still people who say that those retro games look good in raw image, with clean pixels that sometimes don't form anything recognizable or pleasant to see.
@brinksectionz
@brinksectionz 2 жыл бұрын
I use scan lines with my Retrotink 5x and it's amazing. The only thing I don't use is the wobble pixel mode like you have, that simulates cheap CRTs. It messes with my eyes a bit lol.
@skillaxxx
@skillaxxx 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I liked my CRT monitors sharp back in they day too :) RGB/component and a nice monitor means no fuzziness at all without loosing the CRT effect, especially the Sonic example was "terrible 😇
@DerKrazyKrautGaming
@DerKrazyKrautGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible! How did you capture these? Or are these post-processed filters?
@3jake5mee
@3jake5mee 2 жыл бұрын
0:24 tink5x + og hardware
@williammease
@williammease Ай бұрын
Good idea for a video. As a guy in my 40s I had to watch until the end to see what games you chose.
@zacharyessey5904
@zacharyessey5904 2 жыл бұрын
I used to have it so good playing these games on a crt tv as a kid. I have been playing them on modern tvs now and it just isn't the same.
@H6rdc0re
@H6rdc0re 2 жыл бұрын
@Wobbling Pixels: Great video as always. I’m wondering if you have a Mister FPGA and if so. Do you have good settings for that to get this kind of look out of it?
@Dark-Hound
@Dark-Hound 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all the work you have put in. I have been looking for a solution that could potentially let me retire my CRT's forever. And your work with all the CRT/LCD filters looks like it just might be the answer! I don't enjoy the pixel perfect stuff because it to me it destroys the artists intent. There is a lot of color and detail blending you miss out on when not on a CRT. But I've never scene something replicate that really well digitally until your work. You sir are a Hero to the retro game preservation world.
@CaptainNow2
@CaptainNow2 2 жыл бұрын
Stunning! I know that the game I am working onf for Amiga computers looks significantly better on CRT. The CRT effect superbly illustrated here. I would love to see some Bitmap Brothers stuff in here too though ;)
@Ptitmalle
@Ptitmalle 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful pixels buchered by recent hardware. Thanks man, very cool video !
@SammEater
@SammEater 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I thought I was imagining things when I remember games looking better back then than on emulators. It's because our modern monitors are different from old CRT TVs.
@leabatti
@leabatti 4 ай бұрын
1:02 Earthworm Jim art is mindblowing with the CRT filter applied.
@erasmobellumat3973
@erasmobellumat3973 2 жыл бұрын
2:48, i don't believe, really! The eyes of the lady are squared, and on CRT looks like a good painting!
@marafolse8347
@marafolse8347 2 жыл бұрын
This is why old console pixel art looks totally different from our modern pixel art, but old handheld art looks more in line with today.
@markrotondella4689
@markrotondella4689 2 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful you do kind of forget how these games looked and how sometimes lower clarity created better images.
@Wayner71
@Wayner71 27 күн бұрын
Some of these animated computer graphics conjured up the spookiness of early animations from the 1920's and 30's.
@Justin-nq7qj
@Justin-nq7qj 2 жыл бұрын
i like the little specks of color it puts around stuff
@IamAlex124
@IamAlex124 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video , did you achieve the CRT look on the retrotink 5x? If so which filter 😁
@devan_danger
@devan_danger 2 жыл бұрын
i noticed a lot of Consumer-1 in there. I personally really like the look of the Medium mask best myself.
@coolen
@coolen 3 ай бұрын
I've been using a shader set called "Guest CRT" and it's made 4th and 5th gen games look amazing
@thegreator
@thegreator 2 жыл бұрын
Note that in real crt TV, you dont see those black lines unless you're looking an inch from the screen, which you should never do.
@YOBAMUSTDIE
@YOBAMUSTDIE 2 жыл бұрын
Guys if you want best imitation of old CRT in modern retro games or emulated or ported games, use reshade and exactly GTUv50 + EasymodeCRT combo of shaders, GTU gives almost perfect blur and composite color bleed and easymodeCRT gives good enough aperture grid imitation that combined together looks close enough to real old CRT (you can also add motion blur and chromatic Abberation for better effect), But before doing it make sure to find out real internal pixel resolution of game to set up shaders correctly. Best way to find out is to make screenshots and measure size of on screen pixels in actual pixels and divide it. For example you play in 4k and your in game pixels on screenshots is 8x8 pixels, this means you have to 3840/8 and 2160/8 and you will get internal resolution 480x270 (that actually pixel resolution if most recent TMNT Shredders revenge) if game is 4:3 better play it in original resolution or you will have hard time setting proper float resolution of heights that compensates 4x3 to 16:9 resolution changes and adds black bars to count.
@floppytwist
@floppytwist 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think horizontal scaling is important to make crt masks like 'consumer 1' etc taking full effect?
@herr_eichinger
@herr_eichinger Жыл бұрын
amazing! but now can't unsee all the intended and missing effects and my brain always trys to image this with crt artefacts or dare I say intended effect. please include a short crt-filter comparison in all your clips from now on!!! thank you XD XD XD
@FakYuhGoogel
@FakYuhGoogel 2 жыл бұрын
3:51 CRT added teeth^^
@axelprino
@axelprino 2 жыл бұрын
CRTs did wonders for 90's games, that's for sure, but I definitely don't miss the eye fatigue that they caused me. I've actually started to appreciate visible dithering as an artistic choice.
@wobblingpixels3921
@wobblingpixels3921 2 жыл бұрын
NOTE: These are Retrotink5x PRO CRT masks/filters NOT Retroarch shaders! The video is a best of from second twitter account twitter.com/5Xpixels plus new examples. Less infomercial but entertaining video. Enjoy, relax and let me know which one is your favorite😎In case you would like to have a basic explanation about the benefits of CRT TVs/CRT filters with low resolution games : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z8l3dLNizsWYqIU.html
@Pender666
@Pender666 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please share your shader presets?
@wobblingpixels3921
@wobblingpixels3921 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Pender666 For Retrotink5x?
@Pender666
@Pender666 2 жыл бұрын
@@wobblingpixels3921 Was all CRTs shots on real CRTs or some kind of shader?
@wobblingpixels3921
@wobblingpixels3921 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pender666 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pN1ihMmBt6vZXYU.html Hardware scaler Retrotink5x PRO CRT Filters with real console hardware
@someman7
@someman7 4 ай бұрын
@@wobblingpixels3921 What's up with 10:42? The first image has no teeth showing
@LogicBlade
@LogicBlade 2 жыл бұрын
Now THAT...is eye opening. Wow.
@Cemenglemao
@Cemenglemao 13 күн бұрын
This is why pixelart with dither has been so powerful in the past 😮
@iesousdark
@iesousdark 2 жыл бұрын
3:51 happier on the crt filter 🙂😃 👌
@vyadis
@vyadis 2 жыл бұрын
My CRT is a low grade consumer one so I get the vertical jailbars but man its still waaaay better than an emulator.
@user-rn4tt4fj8f
@user-rn4tt4fj8f 2 жыл бұрын
Great, need full setting about scanlines for sega gen, ps1. Like for this great job
@sockpuppet7881
@sockpuppet7881 Ай бұрын
This is astonishing.
@Graphomid
@Graphomid 7 ай бұрын
YEAHHHHH I KNEW THEY WERE LOOKING SO GORGEOUS
@garethjones2746
@garethjones2746 7 ай бұрын
The CRT monitor is akin to lacquer when finishing a car's spray job.
@huntrus106
@huntrus106 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this video. Could you do a part 2 with more games?
@wobblingpixels3921
@wobblingpixels3921 2 жыл бұрын
yes in the future but this takes weeks or even months
@Badmojo
@Badmojo 2 жыл бұрын
I still have a CRT at home, I recently learn you can play wii u game with the composite cable from a wii, I want to test that out with some virtual console game or maybe shovel knight
@hfc2x
@hfc2x 2 жыл бұрын
I like this simulation (filter) because it gives a pretty good approximation to how old games are supposed to look like, and also give people a proper introduction to the difference in display technology. There's some caveats, however. As someone who exclusively hooks my old consoles to my high-range consumer-level CRT (because professional-grade monitors like the PVM give you an image quality no one in the consumer space would have ever even witnessed), there's multiple things you just can't do with a filter, and some things filters just get really wrong. One of those is the scanline effect actually not being really noticeable on real hardware, unless your console or device is outputting 240p, because that way the same lines are getting redrawn top to bottom, leaving the intermediate lines dark, although they still experience color bleed (due to the way the electron beam emits light), which fills up the blanks. Again, it's not really noticeable unless you basically stand 1 inch away from the screen, and this seems to be what people who program these filters do, which seems weird to me because you're not supposed to play your videogames at a very close distance. The other thing is the vibration in the image is something filters get all wrong and/or mixed up constantly. Interlaced and progressive video modes can be told apart from each other exactly due to this. Some consoles output progressive scan (such as the SNES), some do interlaced scan (example, PS1 and 2), and some can do both depending on game or cables you're using (such as the Gamecube). Interlaced scan tends to flicker and "ride up", as it were. You can easily notice this on real hardware, if you plug your PS1 to a real CRT and turn it on, the PlayStation logo seems to waver up if you look at its edges. That's the interlaced scan in action, with the TV "knitting" frames together quickly one after the other. You'll never see this "vibration" on consoles like the SNES, because of their progressive scan output. Overall, I think it's pretty cool to have technology that can approximate what real hardware shows you, but in the end, I don't think it'll ever be possible to accurately represent what you can experience on the actual hardware itself.
@wobblingpixels3921
@wobblingpixels3921 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your post. When zooming in on PVM you will notice "scanlines" as in this video using Retrotink5x CRT filter. Here is one example with CRT TV: twitter.com/CRTpixels/status/1498434093641617409 With BVM it's even more noticeable. The video shows zoom in footage. When playing the game with the right scanlines settings you will not notice any scanlines. The Retrotink5x has a CRT sim mode for interlaced content BTW. CRT filters of the Retrotink5x are not on the same level as CRT TV I gree but they much closer than any hardware scaler before and with Retotink4k I expect tha gap will be much smaller.
@dutchgamer842
@dutchgamer842 15 күн бұрын
I've never had those hideous visible scanlines on my CRT, even never seen them at other people's houses when gaming there.
@daromirfirunsson
@daromirfirunsson 2 жыл бұрын
How do you emulate the crt look and the technical errors?
@_HXHfan
@_HXHfan Жыл бұрын
what tools/software did u use to change the normal picture to CRT scanlines ?
@ThunderaRafa433
@ThunderaRafa433 2 жыл бұрын
it is not only the pixel art...is the crt monitors! and the scanlines of the retro feeling!
@LeUberTroll
@LeUberTroll 2 жыл бұрын
So it wasn’t just me. I though these games looked better when I was at an arcade vs emulating it at home. Excellent video!
@crestofhonor2349
@crestofhonor2349 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not emulation that’s the issue it’s the display used
@LeUberTroll
@LeUberTroll 2 жыл бұрын
@@crestofhonor2349 My point being my pc doesn’t utilize a CRT when arcade machines do.
@KaiSchSp
@KaiSchSp 2 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a good universal CRT filter for all the classic games. CRT filters can be quite fascinating, especially at 4K.
@lionheart-xt7xm
@lionheart-xt7xm 3 ай бұрын
The waterfall in sonic 2 looks more transparent and all games have better blending of colours on the CRT. I guess this was the intended look
@FernandoMaldonado
@FernandoMaldonado 2 жыл бұрын
This video really highlights how CRT TVs made the low resolution graphics look great. With that being said I like how Dreamcast looks over VGA on an 4K OLED TV. Tried both but it looks so much better on the HDTV.
@loganjorgensen
@loganjorgensen Жыл бұрын
Definitely is a different experience originally when we didn't actually look at pixels directly since the CRT offered a form of free antialiasing. Emulation kind of created this conflict where to this day people argue about aspect ratio even though 99.9% of the screens were 4:3 lol. I'm just glad filters came about to bridge the two worlds together and provide something approximate to the old video conditions. :) Composite alone really does a lot for the Sega Genesis and Saturn, many examples where they took full advantage how that can blend adjacent pixel colors together and create new colors and transparency effects.
@kubistonek
@kubistonek 5 ай бұрын
most of screens were 3:2
@loganjorgensen
@loganjorgensen 5 ай бұрын
Is that a joke?🤨 Because 3:2 is more of photography aspect ratio, 35mm film and DSLR cameras/smartphones.@@kubistonek
@kubistonek
@kubistonek 5 ай бұрын
All tv were 3:2 with overscan
@loganjorgensen
@loganjorgensen 5 ай бұрын
Oh okay. Well it's hard to count overscan dimension as it's more of a margin than typical screen space. Kind of why aspect ratios like 4:3, 16:10, and 16:9 are used instead Ie. final visible picture shape. There's been a few examples of retro PCs expanding window size further into overscan space but that's not very often. Also NTSC & PAL differ a lot. @@kubistonek
@vacantseaofplanets
@vacantseaofplanets 11 ай бұрын
With the newest firmware on rt5x, the hdr10 option increasing brightness and increases the gamma setting's range. This makes the CRT scanlines and grill/mask filters darken the image less. Combined with a new OLED TV with BFI, you get the best CRT emulation we've ever had. What scanline and CRT mask/grill settings qqare you using now? It's insane that so many features have been added...
@BaronStVon
@BaronStVon 2 жыл бұрын
What capture card do you use and/or recommend?
@BitcoinTakeover
@BitcoinTakeover 2 жыл бұрын
Best advertisement for CRT televisions I've ever seen.
@arcticridge
@arcticridge 6 ай бұрын
2:33 that's actually insane how more realistic the picture looks
@Fullbatteri
@Fullbatteri 2 ай бұрын
OMG I just KNEW Yoshi Story did look better when I was a child!
@migovas1483
@migovas1483 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the invisible grid that makes the magic happens... LCD and OLED is nice and all, but CRT is just something else, also the response time... *chef kiss*
@rudidellama3718
@rudidellama3718 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that CRT shaders expecially from those working on Retroarch are getting there, dont know if they will ever come close to the real deal, but at least in its current state are way better than having none
@FLYNN_TAGGART
@FLYNN_TAGGART 2 жыл бұрын
CRT Royale is great, but on order for it to work, you need roughly a 4k/5k resolution minimum. You just can't store enough information when you only have 10x or 11x scaling, and that's just for 240p. A lot of 480p games like Wind Waker end up better looking with native rendering in high revolutions than with CRT effects anyways, but it'll be a long time until we have high enough resolution screens that can properly do CRT shaders on 480p.
@rudidellama3718
@rudidellama3718 2 жыл бұрын
@@FLYNN_TAGGART Yeah I started to notice that, after I change from a 900p screen to a 1440p I'm been struggling to make the shaders work as intended, the only one that actually look good was a custom one made with 1440p in mind that I found in a forum
@SageX85
@SageX85 2 жыл бұрын
They are getting there, there are a few things though, that get little attention, like composite video artifacts, there is little work done to replicate a more accurate behaviour in that front. There is more work on moire patterns (from pictures) or curvature, than on the natural defects, or shall i call it quirks, like convergence and signal noise. Most are happy with the results of blargg that is really hard to find anything on composite and rf
@wind2536
@wind2536 Жыл бұрын
What is the closest CRT filter to match the one in this video? Specifically SOTN?
@lordsearj
@lordsearj 2 жыл бұрын
In GBS (8200) Control this is also possible. With the advantage that by having a VGA output, we can use a CRT monitor. It looks beautiful.
@voltz15
@voltz15 Жыл бұрын
I also have some videos posted on my channel relating to this, but it's mostly tricks and such I did on an ossc.
@AZULES88MU
@AZULES88MU 2 жыл бұрын
Scanline is amazing
@KakaCampolongo
@KakaCampolongo 2 ай бұрын
Which Retroarch filter can I use to get visuals from this CRT?
@TheTabbyNeko
@TheTabbyNeko 2 жыл бұрын
Not a huge fan of scan lines on 3D games, but my god those 16-bit games look amazing.
@AthosJosue
@AthosJosue 2 жыл бұрын
Psx/saturn games look amazing in old tvs, the gains are as much or more than 2d sprites
@ksysinf
@ksysinf 3 ай бұрын
there are some common misconceptions though about games of the past: 1) not only we were playing on CRTs back then but also using RCA composite or even RF signal. This had a huge impact on how games looked and felt. 8-32bit games with RGB on CRT looks nothing like RCA on CRT and RGB does not always means better. It is blurrier especially on text but it is almost always the intended look 2) this should be obvious by now, but games of the past were never pixelated (aside from pc games). The first time I ever seen pixelated games was when I played genesis games on an emulator. Even more shocking to me was when I played God of War on an emulator and could not believe how bad it looked at native resolution. No genesis, ps1 or ps2 game was ever looking that bad as it is seen now. Even CRT filters can't really replicate the look of a glowing screen and that smooth picture 3) 480i is not a low resolution. It may be laughable now with todays 4k and 8k displays but it never really looked bad on a big CRT TV. The image is bright and there is no such concept as pixels in the CRT world. Try watching Sonic Heroes intro cutscene on Wii connected via RCA you won't believe such image quality even possible with this tech
@billbadson7598
@billbadson7598 Жыл бұрын
4:25 man, this one is stark
@MisterTwit
@MisterTwit 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, watching this you might be left with the impression that this CRT effect is some kind of magical pixel enhancer, but that's not the case at all. The reason these old games look better on CRT than at a pixel level is because they were developed on CRT to begin with. Like literally the monitors they used to draw the artwork were all CRTs (obviously, if you think about it) so the art was touched up in a way that was optimized to look best on that kind of monitor. Unfortunately games today can't really do that because of the rarity of CRT now. Trying to imitate what old games did isn't going to be enough if you're still just drawing a sharpened pixel-perfect image. Relying on a post-processing filter will rarely produce the same quality.
@musicgardener2142
@musicgardener2142 7 ай бұрын
so basically your development setup should involve CRT-Filters to begin with, meaning photoshop, aseprite, or whatever you're using should include some kind of filter which lets you immediately see the CRT-Filtered Result, and you can start developing with this in mind.
@musicgardener2142
@musicgardener2142 7 ай бұрын
...producing a game that even doesn't have a CRT-Filter Option, because it is the default per-se.
@legreg
@legreg Ай бұрын
That's not correct, even if the art was influenced by the CRT look, there are some effects that the CRT brings that are lost if you render with square pixels on a modern monitor. Lines look more jagged, the lack of blurring makes the anti-aliasing disappear, any special effect with dithering would not work. If you were to draw today with big pixels in mind, you would not be able to replicate any of those because you would be missing the CRT side of the equation. Especially with the limited palette that those systems had. One of the worst offender for that (but that goes beyond just the CRT technology) is how old PC games drawn with CGA were not supposed to look like purple mess drawn by a color blind person, but instead with beautiful gradients of colors.
@Felix_Fausto554
@Felix_Fausto554 3 ай бұрын
Tip: If you still have a crt tv, buy a nvidia Geforce 9xxx series with s-video out ( if you tv don't have svideo there are some simple circuits using two ceramic caps and a switch that can convert s-video to composite) and configure the screen size at nvidia control panel. The ATI HD 4xxx series are easier to use because the s-video on it is more "plug and play" but, the OpenGL 3.3 support is a hit and miss with some more demanding emulators.
@ianmoises
@ianmoises Жыл бұрын
if you dont have a crt and wanna experience retro games as intended you can use sonkun crt shaders for retroarch
@larsjj2794
@larsjj2794 Жыл бұрын
And this is exactly why I have a CRT tv in my study :)
@odysseusanime629
@odysseusanime629 2 жыл бұрын
This vidéo is awesome because with it you show to the world, and particulary to the new generation the BIG MISTAKE they do by playing those games without considering this aspect and at least search a way to reproduce the original render. Many young people would also reconsider how these games looks like.
@allnamestakenlol
@allnamestakenlol 6 ай бұрын
I still really enjoy/appreciate seeing the raw pixels, even tho it's not the intended look.
@slainredd4339
@slainredd4339 Жыл бұрын
These games were made with a crt in mind so having them pixel perfect shows off the imperfections
@ArpeggioPegasusMusic
@ArpeggioPegasusMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to argue that in the case of Castlevania SotN and Metal Gear Solid, it wasn't actual pixel art, but rather physical artworks that were scanned and downscaled until they fit in the dialogue boxes, then slightly touched to add features like Dracula's red eyes or simply to avoid weird outlines. Still impressive how they managed to fit that nicely without it looking ugly, but this is most definitely not real pixel art.
@wobblingpixels3921
@wobblingpixels3921 2 жыл бұрын
The touch ups are what it makes it pixel art IMO. Take for example the eyes of dracula. Both consists of one red pixel. The devs knew when it's displayed on CRT with the common cables like composite which have flaws like color bleeding the eyes will fit the eyes of a dracula. That is not always the case. Sometimes its just by accident.
@demodanza
@demodanza 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, but both scanned and made from scratch assets were stored in low resolution, as it was possible at the time, knowing that the CRT would smooth them out when displaying them. You were not supposed to see the raw art assets.
@Nocholas
@Nocholas Ай бұрын
Love this video
@yagami999913
@yagami999913 Ай бұрын
Scanlines are love. Scanlies are life.
@MrBroken030
@MrBroken030 8 ай бұрын
i need part 2!!
@overdriver99
@overdriver99 2 жыл бұрын
great example! the beauty of low resolution.
@LightningWingProductions
@LightningWingProductions 10 ай бұрын
I wish there was a way to get the retro CRT look as a filter for my computer monitors and phone screen. Why isn't there an app for that yet!
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