VERY this

Such a shame that fans have this much impact over a reality competition, I would have lived for Kandy eliminating Jimbo

@@highonsugar6273Same, it would have been quite the shake up and some interesting placements for top 4 throughout.

That part she prolly woulda had to go into hiding lmao

at least it would have been fun, the entire season was a snooze cause it was made for Jimbo. Also, I don't see that anyone went into hiding for kicking out Manilla or Pangina and it was equally outrageous

And I woud have eliminated her without any regrets. She bullied Dela into quitting. I just don't vibe with Morgan at all, since season 2 she's just arrogant and I have issues being in the same space with people like that.

​@@damirdominkovic I think Dela was already feeling pretty bad about being in that kind of competition, so putting all the blame on Morgan is unfair. Dela was bullying herself mostly.

Morgan for sure had no reason to come for Dela as hard as she did. She dug her own grave, it made it her look like a child throwing a tantrum. As we say in PR “te pasa por pendeja”

@@damirdominkovic Jesus STOP babying grown ass people, Dela did that to herself

it's so disingenuous to blame Morgan for Dela quitting. First off, Dela saw *_why_* the producers engineered that situation: they wanted to set her up as the villain who goes into the finale over-confident and hated by the rest of the cast (if she had stayed she would have ended up like Shangela). Second, as Thorgy pointed out, she self-eliminated specifically to have her moment, on her terms, and it worked, as we're still talking about it.

I mean… she did land in the bottom 2 for it 🤡💀

@@mateusz1578with the bitch she played💀

@@mateusz1578but she got Carmen in the bottom with her then sent her home

@@coqui9879 and then they eliminated Shangela and brought back Carmen. So… bad move.

​@@mateusz1578"she doesn't want to win, she just wants you to lose"-BTDQ, 2016

I think it doesn’t make sense for them to pick roxxxy over phiphi knowing that just one person would go home. Yes there’s the rolaskatox alliance but if roxxxy goes then that would leave phiphi, detox, katya, alaska in the game next to tati/Alyssa and I don’t the girls would save tati/Alyssa over phiphi/ anyone in the bottom because tati and Alyssa went home. So it’s basically the same outcome if roxxxy or phiphi stayed

The biggest mistake was katya/detox not eliminating alaska in the makeover challenge😂 that was like handing the 100k to alaska. Where’s naomi smalls when u need her

yeah but then they both wouldve had to have been on the same page because they BOTH need to come back into the competition with the double lip sync win. unless they just eliminated both phiphi AND roxxxy which would've been a gag too

I think do to phi phis games everyone wanted her to go and it was more of a group decision but they should’ve eliminated them both

a world without roxxxy andrews being here to make it clear isn’t a world i’d want to live in!!!

WHAT EVEN

So true.

@@yawninggrave Bianca had it coming. She threatened to cook Willow's mushroom pet if she didn't throw the Bootylicious lipsync. 🤷‍♀

Honestly. . . It was pretty iconic

No. Cause what about that same season when Lala Ri got mad at Kennedy and then brought a horse to set to kick her in the face but it backfired and concussed Lala and Trixie got an infection from eating all the horse shit.

The worst part of lala’s elimination was the fandom not realizing Alexis saved kandy because kandy was the only one that said she would eliminate jimbo and lala wouldn’t. It was a great potential move and I don’t blame kandy for looking out for herself

It was soOoo awkward. 🫠

Alexis michelle is the true mastermind of as8 but it blew up in her face by miscalculating kandy. Alexis is so smart and wants to be in the top 3 of 9 and wanted it even more in as8. No one really knows the reason 100% why she chose lala over kandy, I don’t think she was scared I honestly think she took her alliance with kandy serious. kandy said that she was targetting jimbo and Alexis took that serious. She would never come clean about it but it’s the only one that makes sense…y’all need to watch s9 and untucked of s9 and watch how alexis is like that girl is so smart she thought she would win the season if jimbo went home versus the other queens there she’s mother tbh

And im not joking btc 😂line

@@user-ke5rt3ji8cI think Alexis was just guessing who had the potential to win more challenges, and be in a position to save her in the future.

And then Vivienne blocked Jinkx right back the very next week. Although that next episode was a sewing challenge, so Jinkx was saved from losing on another star badge (due to sewing not being her strong suit). Though Vivienne was a weird choice to win that week (the girl groups challenge). Her verse was fine, but as many have said, Shea or Monet would've made a lot more sense to have win instead.

the irony of it all was that in retrospect, there was only one queen who would’ve faced difficulty with Morgan in the game, and that’s Dela. She was in the top basically every episode. In a way, them eliminating Morgan may have indirectly led to an even easier coast for Dela, while the others who, no shade, thought Morgan’s way of voting would effect them, lost one by one.

Not Detox. She was basically never up for elimination. The only time she was up for elimination was when she had the best runway and better performance than the other Bottom 2. Alaska would've been saved too. She was in the bottom when Detox won. That would've helped both of them. Only Roxxxy could've been eliminated.

@@ashishsingh4867 You are wrong. With Roxxxy out, the next episode the bottom would be Detox and Tati. If phiphi did good and vote Detox out, Alaska could be eliminated on makeover (without Detox to save her) and the top 4 would be Katya, Phiphi, Alyssa and Tati. So yes, Tati and Alyssa had the only chance to change the game and they did shit. One thing for sure: if phiphi was kept, she would win the makeover, and the chances of Alaska going home would be great.

@@cadeonexode For starters, when Roxxxy was in the bottom, Alaska won the lipsync. So, that's not happening until the comedy challenge. In the comedy challenge, Detox got better critiques than Alyssa. Detox's outfit was praised better than Alyssa too. She had the Top Toot that week. And more importantly, Alaska won that lipsync. She wasn't going to send Detox home. So, Detox was going to stay even if she was in the bottom. Now, Detox was not going home when it was (assuming) her and Tati in the bottom. Not to forget, if PhiPhi was still there, she could've easily been in the bottom for the adv challenge. But to even think of everything that you want to, she wasn't going home because Alaska won the lipsync that week. Next week was Detox's win. She won the episode. She won the lipsync. Alaska was saved that way. Even if PhiPhi made it through (which is all conjecture), she would be sent home that episode and if she makes it to Top2 that week, Alyssa would still go home because she was the returning queen. The only thing that would happen is PhiPhi being Top4 with Detox, Alaska and Katya. However, Alyssa was never going to save PhiPhi over Roxxxy. It's a no brainer. So, Detox wasn't going anywhere. And Alaska would've stayed too.

Katya picked Roxxxy's lipstick twice but wasn't chosen as the lipsync winner, not even for the one she clearly won against Alaska, so...

Was this before or after Porkchop won AS17 and Ru announced that she was retiring from drag race and was making Ornacia the new head judge of Drag race?

@@enchantrix9669I think I remember it being after! It was the gag of the seasonnn😭😭

no one ever realizes this ALWAYS happens when you give The Hilarious Ross Matthews immunity. it kept Regular Sized Poundcake from winning AS11, it kept wintergreen from winning AS13 Petites Edition, and now michelle won't get 2nd on AS17.

Don't forget acid berry punching BOTH of Michelle's tits, that was so shocking

STOP because it legit happened in AS15 too!!! When Madam LaQueer performed that laser pointer backflip and kicked her heel into Carsons face and then he had to get that face transplant with Bianca !!! These queens never learn !!! DO YOUR HOMEWORK !!!!!

So is it she knew she wasn’t going to win or is it she knew she would get backlash like this comment is so back handed 😂

Ok maybe it wasn't clear x') she knew she couldn't win, so she chose to eliminate the one that wouldn't cause backlash

​@user-ke5rt3ji8c its both... if she eliminated jimbo she would have faced so much backlash, she would have no way of winning the season, handing the win to jessica. but by eliminating jessica she saves herself from backlash because saving jimbo was the 'fair' choice (4 wins vs 1, 1st bottom vs 3rd iirc) so she still has fan support. Besides, the finale is always a mv/dance challange and we all know jimbo cant do that so kandy still has the tiniest chance of winning.

@@gilkot4633 no y’all need to pick one thing, if she knows she isn’t going to win, she could’ve picked jimbo for the drama and gags. If she knew she would get backlash then she wouldn’t eliminate jimbo…

@@user-ke5rt3ji8cWhy are you so dense, Kandy herself said on Roscoe that had she picked Jimbo her drag career would cease to exist as she would’ve lost most if not all booking gigs cause fans would’ve bullied her off of the internet.

😄😄😄😄😄

But would she have crystallised though? Like, how much of a Glamazon bitch could she be without being set on fire?

Right? She already has a lot of hate without it…people are cruel and stupid

Either way, the people who dislike kandy are gonna find a way to tear her apart

Basically: if she eliminates Jimbo everyone’s going ballistic, if she doesn’t everyone’s upset she’s underestimating Jimbo

i mean she said that herself in Roscoe's

fr she already got a lot of hate by just sending home jaymes !!!!! imagine the hate she would get sending home jimbo

i came to see derrick in this video for that reason, i’m broken now 😢

well production didn't eliminate Derrick

@@johnnybaxter8078 well no, not directly, but they could've stopped it by editing Derrick's talent show to be better and putting Ongina in the bottom

Yes, absolutely. Because going into the top 2 with Jimbo would result in Pangina’s win. Not to mention the competition would be so much better to watch.

Yeah I was very surprised this wasn't on the list. She basically eliminated herself.

But Pangina would never eliminate Jujubee cause Pan herself said that Juju is her idol and both of them was so close after the show so i didnt think Pan would think about eliminating Juju

the fact that it applies to both Alexises LMFAO

😂😂

100% agree and AS8 is the proof of Pangina giving a crown to Jimbo, by eliminating her in UKvsTW

Yeah, I agree. Also, Blu mentioned In deliberations on UKvsTW that it was tempting since she already opened the door to eliminating the front runner. Sending home the strongest play is a double-edged sword since it can get you further in the competition, but also puts a target on your back.

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO SAID! This is the one time that a queen LITERALLY lost a season by her bad decision. Keeping Jimbo would definitely make her a winner

Elimination of stronger competitors = Smart move.

And also... why did she take off the bra during the lip sync? I was so mad at the judges when they put her in the bottom, but then she had a sequence of just bad decisions 💀

@@JuanMardson yeah it was so sad to see 😭😭 she even took her shoes off, (quoting Shuga: "both of them girl, both shoes!") I was surprised when the lip sync ended and that wig was still glued on her head

Omg I totally agree! That was her big mistake 😢

*All Stars 6

Just All Stars 6. Ginger and Violet both had 3 wins but Ginger was in the bottom 2 twice. And Violet's looks turneddd the stage.

@@ashishsingh4867 ehh, i would argue she had a chance given Violet (on the show not untucked) was sort of being portrayed in a negative light until the finale

I think so to plus the pressure she hated the elimination format she was originally asked back for allstars 2 but said no because the format they knew about it ahead of time even though they acted shocked and they weren’t even told about the jury twist until that day and Dela looked pissed the entire time and it was later revealed that she refused to participate in it but production told her if she didn’t she was in violation of her contract which kinda screwed Shangela over as well because she spent the whole season calling Dela fake and calculating and then needed her vote

@@marcusmelancon3426 Shangela was right about Dela

True, so she may have chosen Lala just to win the lipsync prize.

risky sure. just as? not quite.

She was doomed from the start, if she took out Jimbo and won the season, the fan reaction would've been overwhelmingly negative against her, and if she took out jessica (like she did originally) the fans would also complain and attack Kandy for no reason

Nah

Well either way she would lose 💀

Agreed, but Naomi sends her home either way. Monet might not vote to send her home in the makeover, but Naomi was there to make MOVESSS regardless

@@DragDetectivenaomi wouldn’t have send manila home if manila wasn’t seen as a wild card with her picks to eliminate by the other girls. manila done fucked herself up by telling basically everybody that she‘s going to send home who she wants. basically morgan mcmichaeling herself😂

@@SILAS-cb9xl Naomi would've eliminated Manila either way because she was returning the favor to Latrice, who just saved her the previous episode.

I think it’s because Naomi would’ve sent her home regardless Manila was gonna win at that point so they needed her to go home even if she didn’t vote for Monte the week before they both were still gonna pick Manilas lipstick

I don’t understand why it was such a big deal. Monet won the girl group but she was terrible in all other challenges; the talent show, the snatch game and the improv. Latrice had a solid run until the improv challenge.

Very much so. Even given that Shae was somehow saved despite the crafty moth look.

I think then Ru would have crowned Juju. And they possibly would have chosen to give Cracker a far worse edit since it seems the content was there for it. Hmm, then Shea might have been on vs the World and won that.

I NEVER understood this unless it was something that either Ru/Production wanted to keep Shea and wanted none of the fan backlash when the Queens eliminated Shangela and Trixie won the season. Ru would have been upset and crowned JuJubee or made an exception to keep Shea.@@kev7600

Mh thoughts exactly

Ben said her intentions were to eliminated based off their performance on the season. Which she didn't considering Chi Chi was worse.

@@johnnybaxter8078 Chi Chi's talent show was better though. She got critiqued on what she wore, not what she did. Morgan got critiqued on what she did

@@CadChamberlain That would be your personal opinion. The judges however, gave Chi chi worse critiques

@@CadChamberlain That would be your personal opinion. The judges however, gave Chi chi worse critiques

Oh you mentioned it! Ok good

I wish I could live in this reality

Plus she would’ve eliminated Alyssa the first time she got, so why on earth would Alyssa risk saving her?

But Jessica had less wins, and out of the two we know how much Ru likes Kandy

@@skyco5395 Jessica would have more fan support than Kandy, which would ultimately push Jessica to the win by a landslide

Oh for sure. People live for the lip sync stunts and in a season where there were already so many lackluster lip sync performances it would have been pure strategy at that point to make an iconic mark in your performance like Sasha with the rose petals and Peppermint with the wig AND dress reveal. And for Sasha to go on and have a mask reveal for the final lip sync against Peppermint, that was in itself a brilliant strategic move

I think this falls under that category: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7N9p5mZsdzKZnU.html

okay, but the fault of that argument is that they don't know about the fan support for a queen while they're filming. so the fan support is a non-factor.

@@mateusz1578 It absolutely is. Jimbo became a huge name after Canada and ESPECIALLY right after UKvsTW, which made production have a Canadian on All Star for the first time in herstory. On the other hand Jessica hadn't been on tv for 13 years.

@@johnnybaxter8078 yes, what I mean is that they do not know how the fans are reacting to a certain queen on that specific season while filming it. So ‘Kandy thought Jessica is going to beat her because of her fan support’ is a really bad argument, because prior to AS8 Jessica was not in the zeitgeist and Kandy couldn’t know how the fans would react to her run on all stars.

Honestly, for most of these the queens had no way of knowing things would turn out that way. So it’s not that the strategy of their choice was actually bad.

I see that, but she'll have to deal with the backlash of eliminating a major fan favorite so that might have played a part in her decision

@@donniesumling8549 If you if she had eliminated Juju, given how badly she did in that season compared to AS8, she'd be doing her a favor. Every episode Juju was losing fans.

@@c.k.8585 *AS5, and they didn't really know how the fans would've reacted until it aired. And given how fans reacted to the faves being eliminated in prior All Stars seasons, it looked like the right choice on paper. At best, Pangina would've been like Alaska. At worst, well..we saw the show

thank you!!

Thank you! @dragdetective

Period

Well Alyssa said she didn’t want to eliminate Roxxy because Roxxy didn’t have a partner to bounce off of whereas phi phi did and still did bad in the challenge and I think for Tati she was just sick of phi phi and did not like her

Was that the episode where Dida then pulled out the platinum chocolate plunger which let her 180 the bottom 2 and send literally anyone she chose home so she sent Ru home?

i actually pray they're both on AS10 i would be so happy

@@enchantrix9669 no no, that was the the ep right before the finale and final -3. right after DiDa finally won her first challenge in ep 26.

i love my fans

But the fan reception would be WAY better to her decision, specially for eliminating somebody that the fans hate (for no reason)

@@calipeixoto930 yeah you're right and it's sad

Exactly. Most of the video is based on stuff the queen couldn’t possibly predict. I’d say that for Alyssa specifically, in the moment, eliminating PhiPhi was the smartest choice. She already knew Phi Phi had it out for her, so why on earth would she keep her around?

When could have Katya eliminate Alaska? She was never winning against Detox' ass.