I'm a boxing practitioner myself but I love Karate, this is one of the most beautiful yet direct and functional martial arts there is when is properly taught and practiced. Karate doesn't work for real life?, ask the guy with the gi covered in blood if he didn't feel the strike. I wouldn't ever dare to mess with any of these guys, they are for real!. Love Karate for ever!.
@tuahakhbarАй бұрын
becaus it's not WKF but JKA 😁
@victorribeiro2431Ай бұрын
@@tuahakhbar ITKF and IGKF got real bangers too, not the gi-fencing thing.
@Peter-rg4ng21 күн бұрын
Boxer and Karate-ka. You are right on my friend. 👍
@lorenzochukwuebukaobi8898Күн бұрын
@@tuahakhbar WKF made me question karate 🤣
@mrcadoiaАй бұрын
I was competing in old school shotokan like this 30 years ago. I am SO happy to see the classical way of kumite as it was done in the sport the early days is still kept intact like this. To me this is more interesting than the actual shiai kumite we see now in the main stream sports karate.
@WadeSmith-oe5xdАй бұрын
notice good fighters who really are good fighters don't bounce around like rabbits when they do point contact or knockdown. They stay rooted on the ground and wait for their opponent to make a mistake.
@jansenjuan9800Ай бұрын
I am a 2nd Dan in JKA. Watching this kumite makes me proud being part of this association. Ossu!
@nicklubrino260621 күн бұрын
Why isn’t there any kicking?
@jansenjuan980021 күн бұрын
@@nicklubrino2606 in JKA kumite we prefer punches than kicks because punches can reach the target more quickly than kicks.
@nicklubrino260620 күн бұрын
@@jansenjuan9800and there’s no punching to the face, right?
@TheUmmahFightCamp15 күн бұрын
I started training in 1975, at the age of 14. Back then, we had no pads on hands or feet and full contact to body, light (yea right! lol) contact to the head. This is now the only karate I can tolerate.
@nicklubrino260615 күн бұрын
This is point Karate. A point is scored when a punch is delivered to the chest. Then, the referee breaks it up, and there’s no punching to the face. This is why Karate doesn’t work in real life.
@davepersich303516 күн бұрын
Proper kumite, a joy to watch. You have to remember that these are holding back, striking with control. However there was still a bit of blood spilled. In a self defence situation, one full power strike would finish the opponent . Ippon. That is what they train for. It was often said that our blackbelts didn't like training with the brown belts because they hadn't developed proper control yet and were likely to get hit.
@WadeSmith-oe5xdАй бұрын
I'm rewatching this, and both of these guys have been trained very well. They both use open hand guards because open hands are faster than closed hands and easier to block and punch from. This is probably the best 6 point system fight I've ever seen.
@LilaKaiTVАй бұрын
I agree with you 👌🏽
@kartellaАй бұрын
actually 4 point (half point - wazari) or two full point (ippon) only in final match. Previous match are shobu ippon: 2 wazari (half point) or one ippon (full point).
@MontyGeffen13 күн бұрын
Good control timing speed important
@Ivan-qs8twАй бұрын
Woow! Love JKA! This is real karate!
@LilaKaiTVАй бұрын
I agree with you! 👊🏽🥋🥋
@etrijuniАй бұрын
Agree! I think WKF should adopt JKA's kumite rules.
@Ivan-qs8twАй бұрын
@@etrijuni WKF is too corrupt to accept true karate..
@tuahakhbarАй бұрын
@@etrijuni WKF so soft but still ok, anyway JKA is the best
@johanaffandi987628 күн бұрын
Kyokushin is the real Karate not this.... oaaa oaaaaa oaaaaa.......
@kermit121110 күн бұрын
This is more beautiful to watch than WKF's kumite. Glad I discovered JKL
@hectorlopez483828 күн бұрын
Es muy grato ver este Kumite al estilo de la vieja escuela. Si protección en las manos, ni en los pies y pecho. Técnica depurada y muy buena , velocidad. Exelente. Estoy feliz de ver a estos dos combatientes. Arigato.
@LilaKaiTV28 күн бұрын
I agree with you. I guess you’re a karateka also? Oss!
@blaz123516 күн бұрын
Great Kumite , fast and hard ..but still control👍👍
@johnfoster5616Ай бұрын
Great karate I'm a 3rd Dan black belt in wado-ryu and I notice the style.of these 2 sensies great kumite they are doing
@WadeSmith-oe5xdАй бұрын
I am only a 1st Kyu in Isshinryu karate, but I WOULD be a third Dan if i didn't keep failing the kata portion of the test. I used to easily beat the 2nd Dan black belts at full contact fighting. Guy probably broke his nose right there, but he stayed in the fight. That punch was legit, and it didn't help that he misjudged it and stepped into it.
@lesgo3616Ай бұрын
@@WadeSmith-oe5xd "I am a brown belt, but I would be a third degree black belt". The delusion is so real that it's almost hilarious.
@juniorpontes872722 күн бұрын
Oss também sou do estilo Wado Ryu , da organização Wado Kai.
@bodybuilderschickensnortht6121Ай бұрын
This was a real good fight one of the best I have seen in awhile
@kennethrogers112920 күн бұрын
In competition I always hated those forever moments waiting to fight….in the 70’s and 80’s black belt was controlled strong contact, 2 points for head kick, one point punch, . Controlled medium contact for colored belts. We wore protective gear.
@noelkelly3386 сағат бұрын
imagine the damage these two could do if they wern't worried about points. Im a 3rd Dan JKA. These two are fierce and brilliant.
@fregatbrilianto-ms3jl3 күн бұрын
This is the REAL KUMITE...FAST ,POWERFULL AND STRONG
@david-pb4bi28 күн бұрын
When I did Karate back in the 1970s it was all reverse punch now it is all jab (gyaku-zuki , kizami-zuki).
@salvatoreshotokan22 күн бұрын
They are really fast , nice kumite !! Oss
@prasadmunasinghe3651Ай бұрын
The real karate. Fight like tigers .Oss
@PeaQue7431Ай бұрын
Outstanding! My name is 'Dan'...I've outranked myself. 🥋
@LilaKaiTVАй бұрын
Oss! You should continue your karate training 😊
@use3rererer3 күн бұрын
What a speed. WOW. Shotokan has evolved a lot.👍
@yassuoyoshida12824 күн бұрын
look at their belts so wear out almost White you no mess with these guys
@chunhuonggoh20558 күн бұрын
This is 100% KARATE fast, hard n in control 👍
@Patrick-sh9tt7 күн бұрын
Excellent match
@tommystevenson2921Ай бұрын
excellent referee
@WadeSmith-oe5xdАй бұрын
What is this? Point knockdown rules? The highlights at the beginning was better than the video I was just watching for Olympic qualifiers.
@LilaKaiTVАй бұрын
The highlights in the begging are their elimination round.
Kendo is actually one of the influencers for JKA kumite. Just one of those, but maybe more significant than is often known. Gigo Funakoshi, son of Gishin Funakoshi was practising also kendo and laido. That effected the cautious approach, relatively long stances, long distances and techniques to cover that long distance quickly.
@unclejoe795811 күн бұрын
@@wallyllaw Interesting information. I can the correlation. Thank you.
@pinkydavis6113Ай бұрын
When you're training to score a point by just touching your opponent, you're effectively taking the combat out of the combat sport. These bad habits ultimately erode the real world effectiveness of the practitioner. What's the goal here? Shouldn't a Black Belt be a representation of ones battle readiness? As these guys lunge for their points they frequently find themselves awkwardly out of position and vulnerable. Unfortunately, there are never any consequences for such sloppiness because the action is generally stopped at that point. The rules and practices of this sport serve only to ingrain terrible habits within the practitioner that will sabotage their ability to deal with a real world empty hand contest.
@rubendumdum5265Ай бұрын
The name of the game is speed, control and distancing. The opponent is not your enemy, respect is important in this regard. If you think you are that good try JKA so that you will know.
@pinkydavis6113Ай бұрын
@@rubendumdum5265 I know what I can do, guys like you generally don’t. Also, I’m familiar with all of your talking points and they don’t hold water. The fact remains that people who prepare for these tournaments are developing bad habits because of the rules. I’m not shitting on Karate, i just think it should look like Bas Rutten’s, Combat Karate concept. None of these point-karate black belts could hang with those guys in a real fight.
@jasonjelf9334Ай бұрын
@@pinkydavis6113 perfection of character
@victorribeiro2431Ай бұрын
Go and tell this to Lyoto Machida 😂😂😂
@andreasjauss3838Ай бұрын
@@victorribeiro2431 Probably the best answer here. LOL. I did sports karate in first league in my country 30 years ago and it was absoulutely no problem to stick a real enemy the fist into the throat in the same controlled manner as for stopping it 1 cm in front of the chin for a sports companion.
@brucemoose926Ай бұрын
You should watch Kyokushin and Enshin tournaments. Full contact.
@LilaKaiTVАй бұрын
Thanks for your comments 👌🏽
@wallyllaw11 күн бұрын
Kyokushin is really nice, but funnily enought pretty much all those punches which these 2 gentlemen did would be banned in Kyokushin, as they were targeted on head. I found it interesting that in this particular match they didn't try to kick, or really throw the opponent. While punching is much more common than kicking and throwing in JKA, all of these are perfectly legal.
@efficientguitarАй бұрын
This is very good ol´karate tournaments like the ones where you had Yahara sensei, Abe and all the other guys that practised under Nakayama sensei (I still have a few of his books). Why was 7:05 an Ippon? I clearly see a clean tsuki but not more than that.
@LilaKaiTVАй бұрын
Because Hirose sensei has 1 point already. 2 wazaari means ippon.
@efficientguitarАй бұрын
@@LilaKaiTV ohhh ok he counted the previous waza ari I did not know that they counted like that, back ikr n my competition times the judge would only count the actual points but would be "doing the math" in his head, so to speak. It confused me because I thought he did something that I couldn't see. Thank you.
@LilaKaiTVАй бұрын
@@efficientguitar no worries at all. 🙏🏻 Oss!
@gwine908726 күн бұрын
Nice to see traditional kumite, not that bouncy crap.
@alexdalcol480027 күн бұрын
Muito obrigado por isso. Oss
@Ivan-qs8twАй бұрын
what was the knockout at the beginning? Waza-ari or Chukoku? 0:11
@hakumilua2942Ай бұрын
You mean waza ari, chui or keikoku?
@LilaKaiTVАй бұрын
Keikoku
@user-jy3wb1ih2pАй бұрын
Нужно быть чуть чуть снисходительны,Это молодые студенты Времена Когавы,Яхары,Нака ушли.
@Pifagorass18 күн бұрын
Point karate with kicks to legs?!
@wallyllaw11 күн бұрын
Area between knees and hips is not allowed in shotokan free kumite, but you can do kicks or rather hard sweeps under the knee.
@rogerchin4051Ай бұрын
it was ok, both of them missed a lot with the gyaku zuki
@LilaKaiTVАй бұрын
That’s normal because both of them are good. Watching the video and in person is way too different.
@Pifagorass18 күн бұрын
Sorry but doing hikite as ask for the point is bit lousy 😅
@johanaffandi987628 күн бұрын
Oa..oaa...oaaaa do nothing.....
@david-pb4bi28 күн бұрын
Not true, this is points Karate at a high level. Who wants brain damage?
@PaulGappyNorris27 күн бұрын
It’s awful.
@uslynАй бұрын
they don't use gloves?😢😢 thats a violation of international rules and dangerous.
@LilaKaiTVАй бұрын
JKA Karate been doing this for years since the beginning.
@LilaKaiTVАй бұрын
This is All Japan championship. But when it comes to world cup of course we’re using gloves.
@snehasishdutta1358Ай бұрын
In real fight you don't have any gloves or gard
@victorribeiro2431Ай бұрын
JKA, no gloves at all, and in competitions that use gloves, only white gloves and mouth piece as protectors are allowed.
@enguagn27 күн бұрын
I totally agree as well as contact does not mean automatically Hansoku.
@user-zg4jw8nc5m22 күн бұрын
Nice technic and strong dinamic. I understand, i have 3 dan WTKF