The fuck was up with that guy lmao

"The pilot smiled. His teeth were perfect." i felt like it was about to veer into a way different direction than a jet fuel conspiracy atp

Maybe...

Yes. Have you ever seen the inside of the fuel tank on your car? Pipes and wires as well

Yup

​@@pilotgeorge2000 No,just the fuel pump in the cars fuel tank,nothing else.

@@sandor4076 how do you feed the fuel tank, and how do you power it? Idiot.

Every part and each bolt are calculated to hold more than worst case scenario. There was one case (737 if I remeber correctly) when aircraft lost 30% of left wing and half of right horizontal stabilizer due to very strong turbulences caused by strong wind with mountains close by - they landed just like nothing happened.

Finally. someone who is using their brain. No one can go inside a wing of these technological marvels. It's only hydraulics, mechanism and the flaps which is part of the wing. They do these videos to convince the masses that there is thousands and thousands and thousands of jet A fuel in those wings. The fuel is the air. The engine and the technology is incredible so it compresses the air and burns it as fuel. By just watching the wing it's obvious to see that a human bieng CANNOT go in those wings. When the aircraft is landing we all see it. The flaps opens up and you clearly see inside the wing/s. But humanity is brainwashed. They will stand outside of the aircraft and still believe someone can go inside those wings. No fuel in their because there are NO fuel tanks in those wings. They talk about fuel tanks and make these videos but they will never show any fuel because there isn't any. Not even during the stress test of the wings during assembly/construction.

They do leak! From exactly the reason you said here

You can stand up in the front two bays of the center wing tank!

Thank you alphamalewolf1968. Good to have that cleared up, I was a little confused myself.

How tall are the wings supposed to be? Because from the outside doesn't seem to be too tall or more than 2 mtrs high. Also if anyone compares the mechanism used to move the hydraulic system of the wings that just plain and simple makes the whole scientific and engineering data illogical, also why there is need to use air turbine starters? Also if it carried fuel as Mr speaker claims as nothing but the TRUTH what doss ignite the mix. Air-gas? Where is the fuel pump. The whole idea makes no sense at all whether the indoctrination is covered as education. I find quiet interesting that even in some real videos of planes on fire in the airports can last more than 4 minutes without exploting and still can't find evidence to discredit the lie about the whole crude oil itself as they say are the remaining from some fossils or Dina sours... Its there when you start to connect the dots and one issue opens up to what the CIA used for a cover up as "A CONSPIRACY THEORY" hoping the blind sheeple will follow the pattern, as its always been proven "REPETITION"eventually truth will make its way, as always. Check this video, recommended to watch it complete. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fZhogs-G1ta5lnk.html. Also want to make sure I respect what your opinion is, wether I agree or don't, but life has fact proved government and many corporations have lie to the public in anything from drivers license when we have a right to travel, false flags to push their agendas as recently the ban on guns, the moon landing and NASA itself with C. G. I cartoon photos.. And the list goes on and on... The evidence its in plain sight, but many are not yet ready to confront the reality I guess.

George, I don't speak fluent gibberish so deciphering this is difficult for me. Here is a video of two men standing inside a 747 centre fuel tank, which will give you an idea of height. www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/07/these-guys-got-inside-the-fuel-tank-labyrinth-of-a-747-jumbo-plane/ The fuel pumps, and there are many, are usually mounted in cavities under the wing or on the front or rear spar. Each engine also has a high pressure fuel pump. As your sentence about hydraulic wing surfaces makes no sense I won't even bother. You ask about air turbine starters and your link points to a video about a jet engine starter, what’s your point? It’s used to spin the engine so fuel and ignition can be added to make the engine run. It’s the exact same principle as a car engine electric starter. By your logic if a jet engine uses air to start it must run on air, ergo, a car that uses electricity to start must run on electricity. The fuel/air mixture is ignited by igniters in the engine combustion chamber. The igniters are similar to a car, lawn mower etc. spark plug. Not every plane crash results in fire, the fuel tanks need to rupture, they must have fuel in them and there must be an ignition source. Jet fuel is difficult to light unless it's vaporised so even if there is escaping fuel it may not ignite. The rest is just mad loony rambling but you talk about ‘sheeple’ yet you are the one following this drivel which has absolutely no supporting evidence. You should look in the mirror before you label people sheep. What are ‘Dina sours’? A new sweet/candy?

David Tipton. I've just remembered something that "PROVES" trucks have been running on nothing but compressed air for many years. At least according to George Miller's logic. Up until not very long ago Mack trucks used compressed air to start too. I split my eyebrow open one time when I was working on one and another idiot who shouldn't have even been near it hit the starter. I was leaning over the right front wheel and that bloody noise they make had me launch upright and straight into the outer canister of the big air cleaner bloody hard. Gee, what a waste of good aluminium those 4 huge diesel tanks were. On a Kenworth I used to drive I had to keep filling them with around 800 litres of diesel or it wouldn't go anywhere. I know that for a fact. I actually ran out once thanks to a non working fuel gauge and a boss who'd just used it and said he'd put plenty enough in for the 1,300 kilometre trip I was heading off on. I knew I should have double checked, but he owned it and "should" have known better than anyone, he was wrong and I gave him hell when I finally did get back. I guess it must just be the Mack brand trucks that have been using this magic air fuel for 30 or 40 or whatever years. I think they must have lost that technology because I don't think they use air starters any more, poor Mack trucks boo hoo. Then again, just maybe, and just like the jet engines, they only use the compressed air stored in a receiver tank that they have to have to release the brakes anyway to start it which uses a compressor driven by the DIESEL ENGINE to refill it. OHHHHHH how the plot thickens. Or is it the heads of some of these conspiracy theorists that are becoming thicker lol.

King Congo: I think most of the people agreeing and commenting are very young and their brain hasn't developed fully which I believe doesn't occur until the early 20s. If there are people over that age making similar comments then they should be ashamed of themselves for being so gullible. I hope you recovered from your eye injury 👍

Nice-oscar it’s drained and vented, for days

I’m sure it’s aired out but jet fuel has a VERY pungent and strong scent

@@hunternelson3018 I was inside of one of the cargo tanks of the Chevron Oregon back in the 80's. It had been filled with gasoline but there was no smell of it after it was washed and aired out. The size of that tank was astounding yet the tanker was a small 35,000 ton coastal ship. There are stairwells going to the bottom.

@@thesauciestboss4039 I'm sure. A mostly empty fuel tank is one spark away from an explosion. That's why they have to be inerted with nitrogen now when flying with no fuel in them. That airplane is likely either new or in for major overhaul.

@@RH-sf7lk it's a museum piece.

I was in bays 5&6 through the 90's, structures & R&E. Left in 2001 to teach A&P school.

It's not amazing they designed the 747 in 2 years, because their know-how was as high as building a supersonic passenger craft. Actually when they designed the 747, the biggest chunk of the budged was allocated to the supersonic, the 747 was a lower/inferior plan to conquer the skies, back then.

The 747 actually it's the sad answer that we burn too much fuel to fly supersonic.

@@florin604 I don't even think the idea was to "conquer the skies". The 747 was more of a stopgap design to fill a long-haul role while the supersonic jets finished their development cycles. They were all brand new technology, and the 747 was based on existing designs such as the 707, just up-sized. The entire reason for the distinctive upper deck was the expectation that all of these brand-new passenger aircraft were only going to see a couple years in passenger service, and then all be converted to Freighters when the SST's finally entered service. The 747 only had the career she had because the SST's all failed to meet the expectations of the time. Ironically, 747's are still being built in Boeing's factories, even as they're being retired from passenger service all over the world. The second-life of a freighter for the entire 747 fleet is being realized, just a few decades later than originally expected. :)

@@c182SkylaneRG the engines were a brand new technology. The fuselage was classic.

@@florin604 I think the wings were new, too. I know Concorde required a unique curved wing design to maintain stability at low airspeeds; something the Russians were unable to duplicate, forcing them to compensate with those canards above and behind the cockpit. No idea what happened with Boeing. I just know the swing wing mechanism wound up being so heavy, the aircraft's empty weight and max takeoff weight were the same.

also, it does reek. Breathable, but you'd better soak your clothes a few times before putting them in the washing machine, otherwise your laundry will smell of fuel for weeks. Source: been there, done that

@@Grouuumpf Great mate.

because there was never any fuel. you cannot go in the wing. this is just an illusion to prove to the public there is thousands and thousands and thousands of jet fuel in those wings. Just hydraulics the mechanism and the flaps. that's it. We all see inside the wings during landing. No fuel tanks and no fuel in those wings.

I bet you did. Funny how this video comes out just as that topic is being talked about (around 2017) that doesnt really show anything that would prove it either way. It certainly isnt showing us a cross section of a wing. Just planting a seed in the mind...ohhh look...they are in a wing. Really? Are they? I have a thought...CONCORD WINGS. Very thin.

Just another bananas video of thousands of gallons of air

Indeed. If I was that dumb I'd go jump off something tall. But these guys think they know more than everyone else.

Of course the compressor blades do exactly that, compressing intake air through many stages before entering the combustion chamber.... but you knew that

Remember Flight 801 over New York, They said somehow the wires in the center fuel tank caused the due to heat and cracked insulation over the wires.

There shouldn't be enough oxygen for the fuel to ignite. Plus if it's fun submerged an explosion would be impossible

@@Mike-rl2sc yeah exactly. There is not the correct fuel air mixture to support combustion

and he eve hat gloves on... this video is a fuel joke

Lmao you have no clue. Ignorant about something you don’t understand.

maybe it;s a brand new plane..hasnt been filled with fuel yet...

@@tonyk7700 No, he said they had to bring it to that location with fuel in it to maintain balance. Seems odd that there was once an oil based fuel in there, but no visual evidence of it ever being there.

@@982spyder5 YES , yur right i watched it again....ya there should be some residue on the walls for sure.....

We have an awaken sole, shut him down!

compressed air for the win folks

I question if you have a brain

btw it's generally insecure people that slagg off others when they dissagree with another's viewpoint or are paid gov shills with hidden agendas!!☺ rip the globe & jet fueled plane's

They do leak busa and it's a pain when they do but generally they are pretty good. The rivets seal themselves when they are bucked up with a gun. Where they use fasteners or bolts they are usually installed wet with sealant and then put a cap of sealant over the top. Using rivets and fasteners is unavoidable because the tanks structure is made from many parts, the Boeing 787 may change that with its carbon fibre construction but I don’t know much about them. The wires aren’t bare, they have fuel resistant insulation on them. Unfortunately that insulation failed in the centre tank and caused the crash of TWA 800 in 1996. The wires need to be in the tank for the fuel quantity indication system.

Well done, you've just shown yourself to be an idiot.

Truth

@@jordanblake574 Don't be so stupid.

Nutri Moss Plus that hatch he was coming out off how is it sealed? @ 4:57 no holes for screws to clamp cover on? wtf

Nutri Moss Another thing, did you hear what he said at the beginning about posting on facebook, "No signal down here" ....Down here? If he is in the wing then he is beside the plane high above the tarmac.

That’s because you’ve never been close enough to one. Stop being ignorant about something you know nothing about. So who at least would know that basics when it comes to aircraft fuel tanks? Me, who’s an aircraft mechanic who’s been in fuel tanks or someone ignorant with no aviation background ranting. Hmmmm.

Why is general incredible and sexy grande on everyone's comments? I think they're government agents...

I kinda like that allah guy more

Great questions. Sum it up from experience: first tanks are de-fueled using fuel trucks which can remove most of it, 2nd there’s small spring loaded valves usually located on the lower surface of the wing and at the lowest part of the tank, a tool is used to push up on the valve connected to a funnel which can be routed to a barrel. It basically looks like a long rod with a funnel around the top to help guide the fuel down the hollow rod into a barrel. At this point well over 99% of the fuel is drained. Then a fuel tank qualified team of mechanics carry out a process called de-puddling, usually at this point there is only small pockets of fuel but workers enter the tanks with breathing air and a fuel vacuum. Fresh air hoses and extraction hoses are also attached to these tanks during the process and left to help remove fumes. Over time jet fuel does dissipate. When maintenance is carried out fuel teams monitor the air with a device called a multi raye, it reads oxygen levels and fumes. That’s a quick summary but there’s a lot more to it, also I’ll add it can be dangerous.

@@sexigrande1792 cool! Never imagined so much could go into it. I guess the same kinda process applies for ships and other heavy equipment.

@@CTde110 as far as confined space procedures I’m sure there are a lot of similarities. Also yes there’s lots of pumps and valves to move fuel: boost pumps, fuel transfer valves, high level fuel shutoff valves, emergency shutoff valves etc... you also might see the odd folk here claim fuel is a hoax 😂.

It's called fraud. This is a propaganda piece.

After carrying out work they Hoover all the dirt up from their shoes, never heard such Bullshit! Mock up wing tanks - all the world is a stage people. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7dddNp33cquiGQ.html

correct - if you would fly such a thing with so much fuel you could not make a left or right turn. Just think on storms while landing a aircraft, if this aircraft would carry fuel in this "tanks" - it would crash because you cannot control fluid because of no separation between the compartments.

this is just another joke in this world. everything the told us is a lie.

You sound like an expert in aircraft fuel systems... What would I know though I’m just an aircraft mechanic not like I would know. It’s fine to not understand how things work in the world but don’t go running your mouth trying to justify your stupidity. It’s a fucking fuel tank dummy. All aircraft mechanics know how and where fuel is stored, it’s common sense in the aviation world, especially since many including myself have worked on them. Common sense fuel plus air for combustion .Jesus Christ.

We? meaning a few sheep who have never worked on an aircraft a day in their lives. I heard that jones guy has it’s all figured out though lmao. There’s a reason no mechanic or pilot believe it’s hoax. Or maybe we’re all paid to keep the secret. Hmmm there’s a conspiracy you could bite your teeth into.

Nope that’s a fuel tank. No I’m here to defend our trade against ignorant people. I can clearly see aluminum fuel lines here in this video. Lol a fraud you have no idea.

Me too, reminds me of the IFS, International Fake Station. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aK2bnNpo39a5fKM.html

Removing some forward sections of the wing-to-body fairing reveals the access holes which are located at the extreme bottom outboard corners of the front spar panel of the center wing tank. It looks like this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rsWpe9eXrK6Unn0.html Although the guys in THIS video did enter from the underside of the wing.

It was drained and vented

You can't mold an airline fuel tank, like you can with a car. Rivets work perfectly well.

I have a 16 foot boat that is riveted together just like this tank and barely leaks.

"I'm car mechanic for over 20 years and never saw a fuel tank built with rivets." Which proves that you are a car mechanic and not an airplane mechanic. Airplanes are made from aluminum, not steel (like a car) and they are fastened with rivets so that the pliable aluminum fasteners in the wing can become one with the pliable aluminum wing and bend along with it. Jet aircraft fuel tanks are not specifically built as fuel tanks, they just seal up the internal structure of the wing and make it an integral "wet wing".

It's a good thing you're working on cars and not airplanes.

The airplane is very big compared to the size of individual chambers of its tanks.

How small do you think that airplane is?

The openings were put there to save weight and to allow mechanics to get through to perform maintenance and to allow the fuel to flow from the wingtip to the root as fuel is used. Otherwise the ribs would be completely solid and Boeing wouldn't have bothered to make the "holes". Ignorance is not knowledge!

It's called purging.

Magic!!!

The wings have been vented for a a while,a few days and its all clear.

every part the tank has been completley purged and aird out.

That yellow paint IS the lining. Fuel tanks are inspected for corrosion on a relatively regular basis. It made it into that TV show about the "world's dirtiest jobs". Honestly, though: fuels are oil-based, and oils preserve metal, rather than corroding it. Corrosion occurs from contaminants in the fuel, such as water, or anti-icing additives.

@@c182SkylaneRG Being Kero based also helps

@@marjan8888 Kerosene is a derivative of oil, so yeah. :)

c182SkylaneRG Dis similar metals are also a large cause of corrosion.The problem with water is the microbes that grow in the water, they are the main cause of corrosion.The fuel additives not so :)The yellow paint is primer used to protect the metal.It is not a liner in anyway that prevents fuel leaks.Sealants and O rings prevent fuel leaking .

Defueled. Residual fuel is dripped from the the sump drain outside the wing tank into barrels. Extraction and supply air hoses are connected to the tank. Fuel tank crew will enter with full face respirators with supplied oxygen and special fuel vacuums and rags. Over a period of time the tanks with be continued to be purged and monitored with a multi Ray sensor which measures LELS and VOCs. These readings need to be at a certain level to enter without full respiratory ppe. Even then depends on regulations for countries, companies etc. Workers are also time limited for exposer. So basically the longer it vents the better.

@@sexigrande1792 how long do you vent a kerosene heater before it no longer smells like kerosene? It would be more appropriate if this was a brand new fuel tank. As someone who works in confined spaces, I'm really surprised I don't see oxygen meters and appropriate PPE.

@@robertfreeman7916 I believe this is at a museum so it would be well dry. But yes newly opened and depuddled tanks would require ppe especially supply air. The better the fuel removal process the faster the tank can be purged. These aircraft are large so it would take awhile. An example when I used to be part of our fuel crew: we work at a heavy overhaul facility so aircraft could be in any where from 6-12 months so tanks are well vented before no full face mask is required. Now everyone has a right to wear it just makes movement harder. Cushions are used to crawl across, tanks are continuously monitored. There’s definitely some Grey areas thrown in there but there is definitely a lingering smell of fuel especially if you expose pockets of fuel removing at valve or fuel line. Ive even worked in new wings which are way better for obvious reasons. And our aircraft has a bladder tank in the fuselage which is much easier to clean. Fuel tank coveralls are a must and gloves and well. That goes without saying there’s always some kind of risk and the shorter exposure the better that’s why we were only limited to max 4 hours per day.

@@sexigrande1792 and that makes perfect sense. You don't need PPE or a confined space permit in a museum. Should have said that in the first place right?

@@robertfreeman7916 all good 👍

@kwantoon maybe because of the length of the wing, combined with the weight of the 8 engines hanging off the wing?

That's where the Lift Demons are stored? :)

Free Thinking if there was complete separation between the tank sections, the fuel would not be able to flow. The electrical wires have a special coating called insulation which you can see if you look closely. There are pumps in the tank because pumps on top of the wing would mess with air flow. Glad I could clear that up for you.

Don't you know that there are plenty of cars and motorcycles that have electric fuel pumps inside their fuel tanks?

Thanks Yogi ! Imagine the life of a Peretual liar Fraud Deceiver When he has to Meet His Maker OMG 😭 This is a Prime Example of the Extent Sinner's will go to decieve And For What.... Eternal Damnation! I'm sure he Thinks it was Fun and Makes him Feel Smart Fate will Knock him Down And Drag him around by the Balls first

Close to 6 feet. The "wing box" part of the fuselage that the wings attach to, also carries fuel, and I could stand upright inside the main fuselage tanks. I'm 6'3".

The fluid dynamics are explained here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jNaqiMWKyt6YlJs.html

Did you actually watch the video? There are baffles in the tanks to prevent fuel sloshing about. Also the fuel is contained in many compartments. Also aircraft make smooth "coordinated" turns and the g forces generated in turns ensures that the fuel remains where it was, not rushing out towards the wingtips.

Daniel Singley the tanks get aired out for a while and they are probably used to it

Oh goody, it's that dimwit again. It's a museum exhibit. The fuel was drained LONG ago. I don't even get the point of this one of your idiotic questions. Draining them is not in any way anything difficult to do, sooo,,,, what the hell was your point with this stupid question??????????????????

there are plenty of videos out there showing fuel draining from tanks there is an f16 one on youtube if you dont believe it its no skin of my back,,, but you will be very wrong in believing this compressed air stupidity,,,,, stupidity so stupid its pathetic

They open the "fuel tanks" and all the compressed air spills out onto the ground 😂

as you can see there is none... you can draw your own conclusion here.🤫

spoada it's called the wingroot not the shoulder. 747 wings are indeed that thick, my great grandmother worked at Boeing as did my great grandfather and grandma and grandpa. My great grandmothers job was to crawl inside the wings of B29s(a much smaller plane) to inspect the joints.

False. Here is a diagram of the 747-400's (wing) fuel tanks: i.stack.imgur.com/R2qRK.gif Here is a diagram of the 747's center wing tank: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Center_Wing_Fuel_Tank.png Here is a photo shot at the Boeing factory in the "Wing Stub Build-up" area I used to work in where we built the center wing tank. This photo shows the sheer size of the first two bays (of 5) of the 747-400's center wing tank (scroll down a page): www.iasa.com.au/folders/Safety_Issues/FAA_Inaction/nea.html

another person that knows nothing is commenting about a aircraft fuel tank. i am 6'2 and i can literally stand up inside of a center fuel tank of a 747.

You obviously having worked bigger commercial planes if you never seen metal that thick in a wing

The fucking retards are in the bottom of the fuselage thinking they are seeing fuel tanks everywhere

yeah it's amazing that all the fuel was able to be completely drained, considering all the 'nooks and crannies' inside those tanks. The guys inside are not wearing respirators, so yep, the fuel's all been drained, every last drop. Great work! How'd they do it?

dorian345 Just checking. Do you believe they take this compressed air up with them? Or do you imagine that the air coming in the front is compressed and pumped out the back?

He probably thinks they make all the passengers pump away on push bike tyre pumps to keep up a supply that would maybe fill one tyre up in about 10 minutes. Cause, yeah dude, just a little goes a long way man. They can pump it up anyway they like but compressors are terribly inefficient and to produce the thrust required to accelerate one of those monsters down a runway at a great rate, then turn it's nose up and climb at very steep angles should be so easy right? Hang on a second. Where do they store all this HIGHLY pressurised air, and how in hell could they possibly store enough to even get it half way down the runway. There must be some huge and heavy very thick walled tanks on board to store it in. Or are they really just so stupid that they think an air compressor that runs at something like 20% efficiency can actually continuously supply enough to keep propelling it? This whole thing is so f#*king insane, it really worries me that there are people so stupid they believe it.

Do you understand how the compressors work? They consist of a series of stators and rotors. The rotors do WORK by rotating. How is this WORK being achieved? I'll leave that for you to research. I'll give you clue: The first Law of Thermodynamics.

you run on compressed air

That’s where the fuel goes

Not on these big buggers sorry. A lot of light aircraft use bladders like you mentioned but that is the fuel tank, or rather, one of the actual fuel tanks he's climbing around in and it's exactly as you see in the video. Good to see someone who actually does know at least enough about REAL aircraft and not another nutter who insists they run on compressed air though, so a thumbs up for that. I may be mistaken but I think the term for this type of tank is "a wet tank".

Even two and four seat Cessnas/Pipers/Diamonds/Beechcraft do not use bladders. Most airplanes have integral wing tanks. All airliners do.

same rivets used to seal the tube from leaking air

Riveted tube? What kind of tube, what's it made of?

He means the riveted tube you claim holds the compressed air that runs the engines....

Fuel tanks are sealed with a two part compound on the inside around all the joints and rivet holes that lead outside. DeSoto PRC is what we use where I work. The stuff makes RTV look like kindergarten paste. It's a messy bitch of a job. If you don't think sealant exists that can withstand fuel, what do you think the hoses and o-rings are made of in your car's fuel system?

@Herb Derbler: Why did you misrepresent my question? I said, "I saw nothing that appeared to do that kind of job?" I guess reading isn't your forte? Look at those rivets above and tell me where the sealant is?

It's a Museum piece not a working aircraft...

@nightstalker amazingly dumb yeah..

He's in a 747 not a Cessna 172 🤔

True, they only show inside but not where exactly on the plane, which is very sketchy. I too believe the planes run on air, and might use some fuel. Because if you do a little math and add up the gallons of fuel being used by airplanes per day vs the gallons of gas being made, you're gonna end up with more gallons of fuel being used than produced.

I don't think you are a human, you are so stupid.

So does a car's fuel tank. Remember only fuel vapor ignites and some aircraft have a nitrogen inerting system that replaces the oxygen in a depleting fuel tank so combustion can't occur

Jet fuel is quite hard to ignite, its like diesel.

Allegedly, airplanes primarily run on compressed air, not jetfuel

The wiring in the fuel tank uses a special insulation to prevent corrosion from fuel, and is supported along it's length so there's no risk of the vibration causing it to chafe. Also, as others have said, it's quite difficult to ignite jet fuel in liquid form. If you threw a lit cigarette into a bucket of jet fuel, it would go out. The fumes are easy to ignite, however.

@@navigatingel6104 love seeing your clueless comments

So your saying 747s fly without fuel?

wizbang16 iv been talking about this. The airbus suposedly carries 320,000 liters!! That comes out to 84,000 gallons of liquid. Thats complete nonsense. We never saw these fools enter the aircraft. They always start already inside these so called tanks..something hella weirds been going on with turbofan technology

I will call my friend who works the ramp at the airport fueling and see if it checks out. Just did and it does carry tons of fuel.

WackyBroProductions. Thank you for confirming what those with any sense at all already knew. Great that you could 'try' and tell the nutters, pity some want impossible and what should be unneeded proof that they'll never believe anyway.

Anton You are a moron, but take comfort from the fact that there are other morons out there too.

Research aircraft fuel tank purging and de-puddling.

@@sexigrande1792 Again..too triggred. You come across as damgae control. Just saying.

Why do you want to be stupid? The tanks have been drained, vented and probably washed with detergent too. Why would he wear a mask when the tank has been vented? Wires inside the tank is no problem, you have at least one electrical wire in the tank of your car too. Knowing so little about jet engines and falling for this fuel hoax conspiracy theory is ridiculous. Grow up!

Hey special one. I test aircraft engines for a living. Guess what happens if I run out of fuel.....the engine stops running 😂. You're an idiot

They don’t look like they make any exhaust because we don’t live in the 70s anymore and jet technology has evolved past big black clouds coming out the back. There is a lot of soot from the fuel burning in the engine. If you ever look at a turbine aircraft you can see very large amounts of soot on the exhaust area. Of course it sounds like compressed air because the engine burns fuel to compress air to move the aircraft.

Check this video out of a 737 taken with a FLIR infrared camera. Even the tires are hot after landing. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gpt-htBnrNbacn0.html

The man is not joking :D have you watched Idiocracy?

Why?

With those tiny cotton buds of course. What the fuck has that got to do with ANYTHING??????????????

StratMatt777. There's only one word I can think of that best explains what I thought of your explanation, ahh, make that two words. F---ing awesome! I loved it lol.

Thank you sir! Are you part of the resistance too? :P

Welllllll, umm, yes BUT. I was in an induced coma for 8 days after a very bad motorcycle accident care of an idiot driving a bloody great jacked up Jeep wagon launching straight out in front of me while cruising at 100 kph, he panicked and froze right in front of me leaving me absolutely nowhere to go. While I was in the coma I dreamt that Stephen Hawking came to me and offered to inject me with these nano bots he'd designed that would repair all the internal damage and make me better than ever. All just in my imagination I'm sure but it felt VERY real. Maybe it was just my minds way of trying to convince my unconscious mind that everything would be fine, power of positive thinking and all that. Obviously I survived, but with my age and the internal injuries including losing my spleen and having 5 holes in my left lung and one stubborn rib that had to be surgically removed from my lung, a few feet of intestine gone and kidneys damaged but came good eventually on their own and all the rest absolutely nobody expected me to make it through it, so the positive type thinking even while in a coma helped a lot I believe. Now don't say anything too nasty about the nano bots, mine might rebel against me and turn me into a snail or something like that lol.

Oh wow that sounds terrible! I'm glad you are okay with the help of the nanobots! A helpful tip: nanobots LOVE cheeseburgers!!! So if you want them working for you, you know what to do! Regarding the power of belief, I believe it is true and that it is the thing that Jesus was actually telling us about (religions preach guilt- Jesus never did), but I'm going off on a sidetrack here! So yeah, the great thing about KZfaq is that no matter what you want to be true... all you have to do is make a video where you declare that it IS true (evidence not required) and then (this part is important!) you have to UPLOAD that video to KZfaq! Once you upload it and it goes live, whatever you declare in the video is now true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!! Evidence is still not required! Gas has gotten really expensive lately, so after I watched a video saying that airliners run on compressed air I made a video where I declared that my car runs on compressed air. I uploaded it and BAM- no more buying gas! Now THAT is pretty kick ass! (I already own an air compressor so all I had to do was seal the vent in my gas cap lid). Wa-la! Then my car stopped running!!! So I checked to make sure my video was still uploaded to KZfaq... THEY HAD REMOVED IT!!! So now what I declared is no longer true. Damnit!

That's cool. Well, that proves that you don't have an aeronautical engineering degree. ;)

@@StratMatt777 Nor a high school diploma, I'd bet.

@@jshepard152 Thanks for reminding me of this post because, in retrospect, considering that I assembled 747-400 center wing sections 20 years ago I could have expanded that guy's awareness by mentioning to him that the sloshing of the fuel in center tank is reduced (prevented as much as possible) by all those walls the guys are walking in between. Which are (front to back) Spanwise Beam 3, Spanwise Beam 2, Midspar and Spanwise Beam 1 (there are 5 bays). As we know, I was short with him since his comment means that he is experiencing the "compressed air" delusion, but I should never pass up the opportunity to expand someone's awareness of reality. Hey, Marky Mark, how are you doing with understanding that jets run on fuel now 2 years later? Consider this: your drink doesn't slosh or fly off the tray table because airliners always do coordinated turns, which eliminates cyclic variations in horizontal gravitational (centrifugal) forces. That is to say, the sideways forces are gradual and pretty constant.

Marc Fulton ok genius, what does a fuel tank look like??

@@thesauciestboss4039 thank you, I'm hes seen plenty by his comment

So you've seen air tanks designed even remotely like that in your vast experience have you? No you say. Gee, surprise surprise. Compressed air tanks all have several things in common. And yes I have been around many and even made a few that for safety reasons had to be thoroughly pressure tested before they could be used in the workplace environment where they were needed. They HAD to be quite thick steel and they had to be a shape that naturally couldn't flex or deform at all, in other words cylindrical with domed ends. Absolutely NO flat sections or bends or any shape that could deform at all. Oh, and because they are usually thick steel they are bloody heavy. Sure you could probably make them lighter out of something like Aluminium but the wall thickness would have to be so much greater that you probably wouldn't gain much. In other words, this whole compressed air, resonance and burning Nitrogen is pure idiotic BULLSHIT!

KC ... plus you would have to hydrotest those tanks every 3-5 years... so technically you would have to remove them from the craft, transport them to the NDT station, pump water in them 5/3 the nominal pressure they are designed for, stamped and certified by an inspector... etc Plus you would need valve regulators, god knows what crazy stuff you would have to design to build a craft that at least takes off on compressed air. Actually, I'm interested if it's even possible.

These people are so dumb, it's amazing, unbelievable almost.

You're right about the testing Cipi SixZeroFour, although 'IF' they were full of compressed air as some sort of propellant for an aircraft it would certainly have to be far more frequent testing than "3-5 years" . I can't see any reason it couldn't be done with the wings still on the plane though. With all air replaced with non compressible water there's not exactly any great danger of an explosion. As I mentioned earlier though, one thing really screws things up for this idiotic compressed air BS. The wings 'aren't' round or cylindrical, they have very large either flat, or close to flat areas. That will never work with any real air pressure, they'd bulge and deform and fatigue would soon have them bursting. That's something none of the idiots who believe this crap seem to have considered at all. I've been within 15 feet of a truck tyre with 120psi when it exploded with incredible force, nearly killing the bloke working closer to it. Can anyone even imagine the force of one of those wing which despite the small minded idiots disbelief clearly do have quite a large capacity, certainly hundreds if not thousands of times the space inside the tyre on a truck tyre. At least the massive explosion if the wing/compressed air receiver was to explode and the fright it would give them would be the least of their worries. Those planes wont fly very well minus either wing. This whole compressed air running jet engines idiocy fad is dying quickly. I'm amazed and disappointed it took off with so many clearly retarded morons. Move over compressed air powered BS jet engines, time for the next stupid paranoid fad. I wonder what it will be. Ooh ooh ooh! I know! The sun is actually a giant mirror, and the light source is actually a giant spot light hidden in a the crater of a dormant volcano. They shine it at the mirror and it bounces back what we foolishly think is actual sunlight. Now let's see if that one takes off lol.

Mike Ess there’s a thing called hangars

I was more worried about the fact that he himself walked in with dirty shoes, no boot socks or nothing

The plane was drained and vented! :)

It's a hoax

Tyrone Tucker and you’re a moron

some dont have one,if they knew they had one,it would scare them to death

Being full of fuel is less hazardous, as the fuel itself doesn't ignite that easily. The problem with TWA800 is that it was doing a relatively short flight, so only needed the wing tanks filled. The centre fuselage tank was empty, and it was the fuel vapour that ignited.

There's actually only a small window of altitudes, temperatures, and fuel fill level where the tank can potentially ignite. Unfortunately, TWA-800 hit that. This is why A&Ps really earn their keep.

Those wires are in every Boeing airliner buddy.

Every commercial airplane you'll ever fly on will have wiring in the fuel tank, they almost all use capacitive fuel quantity sensors.

Cipi SixZeroFour good luck

dorian345 you say I can.t do math... I.m an engineer you fucking troglodyte

It's not all in the wings. There are tanks in the fuselage (that's the body) as well.

Fred, it's irrelevant for him because what he really says is that the fuel that goes only in one wing LH/RH ... doesn't matter, that fuel is so "heavy" that the wing will snap... therefore the wings must be full of compressed air... try to figure it out what are the requirements to even build such a craft... these people don't understand that their 'solutions' do not simplify the design of the wing... au contraire.

Actually I'm studying the case if it's even possible to take off with a compressed-air craft the size of a 747... as of now... the math says that it won't take off... but we can only try harder.

Daniel Singley Ha! That's why you work at a junk yard

Jet A is almost as clear as water, it's not like he's entering a tank of crude oil. On top of that, the tanks are vented for days before you can go without a mask.

So I assume that you'd be happy to sit in that section of an operational 747 while it's being refuelled? Of course, you'd need to sign a disclaimer absolving the operator of any responsibility for your inevitable death, and you'd also need to leave instructions for the disposal of your body afterwards (cremation would be really fast!). So, are you up for it?

@ bruh, I do C and D cheks on 737. I've been inside fuel tanks and I've had to fill and empty them myself. I can tell you this is a legit fuel tank (just a really clean one, compared to the old flying garbage bin we have at work), and they are indeed full of fuel when doing long haul

Dude these nutters think aircraft levitate and they think we’re all in some kind of cover up as well. They don’t know anything about fuel systems, wing tank construction and basic aircraft systems yet they claim they know more than us about aircraft. Hilarious.

why would they? the wings are what generate the lift, it's the best place to put weight without stressing the structure in flight, except at touch down. Also, look at a plane on the ground, all the weight is supported by the wheels which are attached... on the wings. and the whole fuselage + cargo + pax is a lot more weight than the fuel.

Actually, the immense weight of the fuel acting downwards against the upwards force of the wing creating lift (carrying the weight of the airplane) allows Boeing to design the wing to be lighter and weaker. That's a fact.

@@StratMatt777 That would make simple turbulence a nightmare. I don't even need to calculate the newtons of force exerted on a filled wing end, but maybe ill brush up on my physics to figure it out for good. Thanks for all the comments though, I'm learning a lot from doubting, more than I ever have in my aeronautics classes.

@@doothdooth You'll like this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/op-daKmYt7PKdWQ.html

The ribs do not seal where they meet the upper and lower wing skins. There is a substantial gap. The dihedral (wingtips are angled up) of the wing causes fuel to flow inboard towards the wing root and fuselage.

No need for pumps to redistribute fuel then?... I can be happy with modern jets using very large amounts of fuel because it makes sense. Engines burn fuel. Obvious. However for example we are told that the A380 holds 250 tonnes of fuel. I've been looking at cranes and weights etc and still can't satisfy the question of how can a wing hold so much weight (which includes engines, flaps, hydraulics etc) without any cantilevers like you see on cranes.

Doug, in the event that there is a fuel imbalance (which should not happen) there are transfer pumps to transfer fuel, but the dihedral/angle of the wing automatically sends all the fuel towards the center of the aircraft. The wing spars are the cantilevers. And the rows of stringers that run the length of the upper and lower wingskins are too. A crane is designed for the purpose of being able to structurally cope with lifting massive weights. That is its only purpose. It is the same for a bridge that vehicles drive over. And in both cases they are made of HEAVY steel. Airplanes are made of aluminum because it is light (the landing gear is made of titanium which is lighter and stronger than steel). An airplane wing is designed primarily to deal with the upward-acting forces involved with the wings supporting the aircraft in the air. You mentioned the weight of the flaps... all of the flight controls are made out of composite materials to be as light as possible. The same is true of the composite fixed leading and trailing edges that are attached to the front and rear spars... these only have to deal with aerodynamic loads (which pale in comparison to the loads the aluminum wing box has to cope with, holding the plane up in the air). Structurally speaking, as far as loads are concerned, it's kind of an "afterthought" that the wing also needs to be able to support the force of the engine's weight and full fuel acting downwards when the airplane is sitting on the ground not having to deal with any aerodynamic loads. These loads really are insignificant compared the maximum aerodynamic design loads. Also keep in mind that the fuel is equally distributed throughout the entire wing so that the spars and the stringers and upper and lower wing skins all share the load. If the wing didn't have the weight of an engine on it and it were not full of heavy fuel (on long distance flights when the aircraft is heavy), then all the wing structures would have to be made stronger and heavier. The downward acting engine and fuel weight that people here are trying to understand are BENEFICIAL loads! Light, hollow, box-shaped aluminum wing torsion boxes only have to deal with aerodynamic loads when flying. That's how strong they need to be designed. When not flying, and the wing is completely aerodynamically unloaded, the loads of the fuel and engine are completely insignificant in comparison to the flight loads the wing is designed for. Remember, no matter how big the airplane is or how big the numbers are that describe the TOTAL weight of the airplane or the fuel it carries, if you take into account the sheer scale of the aircraft and the proportions of all the loads involved airplanes ARE extremely light. If they weren't they could not fly. Look at the sheer size of the A380's wing. It is beyond huge. Airplanes are light aluminum - not heavy steel. They don't need to lift things that a crane does and they don't need to support semi-trucks driving over them. I think you guys are used to thinking about steel ground-based structures that are designed for the purpose of lifting things or driving semi-trucks over. Aircraft are very light (and weak) aluminum... that's why the "walls" of the wing spars are almost 2 inches thick at the root and, after reaching the engine they must support, taper to a quarter inch at the tip.

I still say that if you look at a decent size crane on a building site, its unlikely that it can lift more than 8 tonnes at as short reach and 1 tonne at the end of the jib. Scaling it up so that it can just pick up one wing full of fuel (80 tonnes) that is in an A380 would require a crane more than 10 times stronger. I don't see that strength when I watch the manufacture of the wing. The wing section is an amazing piece of engineering, but how it doesn't bend with 80 tonnes of fuel plus 20 tonnes of engines plus ? tonnes of hydraulics and flaps etc without a cantilever support when the wing itself is 33mtr long is beyond amazing. Its gravity defying. If it is true then a mouse should surely be able to pick up an Elephant.

Those are hoes

Obviously you don't know that most modern cars have electric fuel pumps and their wiring and connectors INSIDE the fuel tank full of much more volatile petrol did you. Try running your modern car on almost empty too often and your fuel pump will shit itself. It relies on the petrol it's sitting under to cool it. And yes, a lot, if not all aircraft are much more stable with the right amount of ballast genius.

Large aircraft use capacitance probes to measure fuel quantity, with the fuel itself as the dielectric. This means a small electric current is being passed directly over the fuel. Wires inside the tank are no big deal.

I was told they use strain guages. Also told they fill by weight as in lbs but I see gallons on the guages. No uniformity in how jets are fueled or in how fuel is monitored? Not to mention composite materials for a fuel tank? Airbus A380 taking off with 239mt of fuel most of it in the wings and the rest in a tank between the wings? So where is the support connected the two wings together? Don't tell me they are not, or that it runs around the center tank or through it. They have to be connected internally or they would fracture.

The wing spars are some of the strongest parts of the entire plane's structure. They're kind of like the keel beam on a ship. They run the entire width of the wings and connect to each other at the center in a beefy structure commonly referred to as the wing box. It isn't simply attached to the fuselage. The fuselage is built around it. The center fuel tanks are formed by the wing box, and the wing tanks are integral to the wing structure with the forward and aft spars forming the front and back of the tank and the wing skin forming the top and bottom. Any control surfaces or landing gear wells are outside of the spars. Mind you there might be more fuel tanks elsewhere in the fuselage and sometimes even in the tail, but the primary wing structure and tanks use the same basic formula in all these large aircraft. If you really want pictures I'm pretty sure I can scare some up from where I work. As far as gauges go, the aircraft reads by weight because that is the most important aspect to consider for a flying machine. Aside from actual fuel mass being critical to flight characteristics and fuel consumption, volume measurements would be pretty useless for knowing how much fuel you have on board because volume changes with temperature. Planes go through massive temperature differences from the ground to 35,000 feet. The fuel truck reads by volume because they're all about the money. They will fill the plane to a specific weight as requested for the flight, but jet fuel is priced by the gallon like any other fuel operation.

Thank you for giving some info on this subject without having to resort to negative labels in regard to my lack of knowledge in the matter. I cannot seem to find any real schematics for these structures, everything l find looks like a cartoon. No diagrams avaliable that show the tank along with support structure, piping, electrical, hydraulic and so on. So many conflicting facts I find when looking at this. Seems like it should be cut and dry although it has been anything but.

Gas turbines are noisy as fuck and not terribly fuel efficient as far as engines go. They work best in large scale operations such as moving enormous aircraft or ships, or powering entire electric grids.

Those fake tanks are build just to trick you airplanes are real! Those tanks are not real, and you're not crazy. I repeat, you are not crazy.

This GE Frame 7EA gas turbine runs on compressed money. If you have enough, you can buy one, run your home, street, neighborhood and city as well. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZsCXmqyamMeZXYU.html

www.avfueler.com/images/03-11-07_1719.jpg

Maybe because engineers are working, not carrying cameras around with them 24 hours a day and spouting nonsense on KZfaq. Maybe because it is so "everyday" to heavy maintenance engineers, they can't be bothered taking photos and videos of the inside of tanks. Maybe because engineers have to keep the things they carry into the tanks to a minimum so they don't drop things inside and block the intakes of the pumps.

Yeah, my thoughts too - that so called 'wing' is far too big to be real - and where is all the hydraulic and actuator gear for the ailerons ? i call bullshit on this very suspect video. Nasa fooled the world with all their fakery, American gooberment fooled the world with 9/11 and now the satanic powers that be are fooling the sheeple yet again with this non existant scam- demic !

@@colliecandle I assembled 747-400 center wing sections (this fuel tank) at Boeing over 20 years ago. You two are incorrect. It would be helpful to ask yourself why you think that what you see here is not true. Specifically, who are the idiots who made the videos that taught you about "compressed air" and why don't they have any aviation experience at all?

It just goes to show you how ignorant people can be about things they don’t understand I mean he’s commenting on hydraulics when it’s a video about inside the wing. Generally speaking Hydraulics systems and flight control systems are not stored in the wings. Unless I guess you could include the hydraulic oil coolers that aircraft could use, doesn’t the 747 use that system? I’m sure with their knowledge they could explain that type of system and what it’s purpose is.

colliecandle Don't let paranoia take over your life. Or is it too late?

Maybe a bit of stupidity Gary. He clearly has no idea wtf he’s taking about. Funny though.

Of course it’s not made for gas, it’s made for jet fuel.

Those aluminum lines you see in the video are for fuel and at 3:19 of the video you can see an aluminum fuel probe ( fuel capacitor) which measure fuel quantities would be installed from the top of the wing attached to an access cover. Notice the line doesn’t touch the bottom of the tank. The tank is separated in sections which are clearly marked with wing stations, wing stations are stamped in the wing of aircraft ( common aircraft knowledge) and these tanks use these rib sections with bulkheads to reduce the fuel sloshing. The same goes for other aircraft stations, and example with be if you ripped the interior apart in the fuselage the formers ( rings wrap around the aircraft) would probably have fuselage stations stamped on them. Argue all you want about the quantities of fuel but this is clearly an aircraft fuel tank.

Still waiting? Me too.

@@sexigrande1792 You are far too triggered and IMO give yourself away. His point in extremely valid...show us going in from the outside. I also find it suspicious this video comes out at just around the time the topic was being thrown around on the internet and there are very few if any others like it. Just saying.

@@karltaylor2857 “triggered” what are you a 12 year old girl? I think you’re just scared of the truth. This joke has come up in a&p groups before, we always find it hilarious when people who blindly believe in the conspiracy pretend like they know anything. “ this video comes out around the time the topic comes out” lol that’s rich dude, bit of a reach there.

yes hordes of aviation trolls , trying to hide the fuelscam

@@smilernok Lol. Someone has never spent even five minutes at an airport.

@@jshepard152 im not gona take ur baite 😂 troll

@@smilernok The obvious troll is you. Also, you can't spell for shit.

you got a back up on that one.

Take a look at the second pretty picture: www.quora.com/Where-is-fuel-in-a-passenger-aircraft-stored-and-what-is-the-typical-capacity

The metal part of the wing is the "structural wing torsion box".