The $8,000 Drag Race! Should You REALLY Spend More for the High Output 2023 Chevy Colorado?

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@troutstag Жыл бұрын

Tow haul is the poor man’s sport mode.

@andrewsbbq Жыл бұрын

basically the same thing when your foot is mated: holds gears, firmer shifts .

@christophertyacke6019 Жыл бұрын

So what your saying is my 02 Silverado has a sport mode, YES!

@EGGINFOOLS Жыл бұрын

Tow haul doesn't make anything faster

@andrewsbbq Жыл бұрын

@@EGGINFOOLS depends on application. Sport mode doesn’t either in some vehicles. it’s just trans logic where faster accel is from ringing out a gear and slapping up shifts. Neither of them are increasing power or torque except for some cars like Fiesta ST and i30N where it has an overboost

@keving5120 Жыл бұрын

@@EGGINFOOLSreally depends on the vehicle. My 5.7 Tundra has significantly improved throttle response and shifts at higher rpm’s when in Tow Haul mode. I haven’t timed the difference, but I’d bet it’s half a second faster than normal mode 0-60.

@Johnny_Kanuk Жыл бұрын

Until Andre got his new truck, I didn't even know cruise control was still an option.

@nicholassmith7048 Жыл бұрын

GM's cheapness knows no bounds.

@db3837 Жыл бұрын

@@nicholassmith7048 Seriously. Just like power windows and locks, I thought that cruise control was standard in all vehicles nowadays.

@waynekeizer5720 Жыл бұрын

With the price there wanting for these new trucks cruise control should def be included.

@robertyoung8289 Жыл бұрын

Neither did he!! 😂

@johnwhitneykokalis9990 Жыл бұрын

On all Canyons cruise controll is standard, not so much on the Colorado.

@evoguy23 Жыл бұрын

Unreal that a 40k midsize truck does not come with cruise control

@braydonbriggs9066 Жыл бұрын

My trail boss came with it? I paid $41k out the door.

@michaelsilva4084 Жыл бұрын

@@braydonbriggs9066same

@cflgt500 8 ай бұрын

I doubt it doesn’t. My WT Colorado has cruise control

@Anthony-nv7gd 5 күн бұрын

Once you drive a vehicle with adaptive cruise control, cruise control will seem like relic technology. Have it in Canyon Denali. Set the speed to highest you are willing to go, set distance u want between u and any vehicle in front of u, and then let it do its thing. Even comes to full stop then seat vibrates when time to move. Touch has and u are back in action. Really useful tech.

@chiron03 Жыл бұрын

Definitely want to see this race later with the Colorado/Canyon, Tacoma and Ranger all in their newest models!

@honda116969 7 ай бұрын

Who ya got in that race? Damn it's going to be so interesting because the ranger with the V6 is going to have the most horsepower but the Tacoma is going to be up on torque at least 35 ft lbs but down on horsepower by like 70hp... who knows

@timorr2399 Жыл бұрын

You shoild have thrown in a full size with the 2.7 also and see how it compares. Just for fun.

@OnTheRocks71 Жыл бұрын

Wildcard. F-150 2.7 V6 Ecoboost.

@andrewsbbq Жыл бұрын

@@OnTheRocks71 the 2.3 Evoboost really is more the direct rival engine. Both are 4 cylinder, both have a single turbo. A twin turbo V6 with same overall displacement is a little far removed for a head to head

@Ecoblu1972 Жыл бұрын

But the numbers are closer and displacement is the same

@cliffordmontana4562 Жыл бұрын

@@OnTheRocks71 it would SMOKE the Colorado and canyon.

@NOAARPC7 5 ай бұрын

@@OnTheRocks71Ranger 2.3 Ecoboost would be the better comparison

@jacobv9019 Жыл бұрын

I work at a gmc dealership. I love the new canyons. Im getting my sand metallic canyon at4 in July, I cannot wait.

@SCRYMNSTR5 Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it mate, good luck with your new beast

@johnkozlowski6993 Жыл бұрын

I think the Nitro Yellow Metallic paint adds extra weight.

@cheekclappa69 Жыл бұрын

but its still lighter since no cruise control lol!

@shiftmotorsports9803 Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't be worth $8k, but $395 is a no brainer

@rickylowry3213 11 ай бұрын

The high output is like a $395 option and to my understanding you can go to the dealership even after purchasing the truck and receive a tune for the high output

@_penguin_ Ай бұрын

Yes, you can. Idk why they are claiming it is $8,000

@andrewsbbq Жыл бұрын

That 430lbft should give a nice shot when passing/accelerating to get on the highway when towing, and for the $300 or $400 to get the tune it's an easy decision

@mattbrew11 Жыл бұрын

🤡

@andrewsbbq Жыл бұрын

@@mattbrew11 stay ironic, bud.

@ALMX5DP Жыл бұрын

Yeah I didnt think there would be much difference in a drag race to illustrate the increased peak torque, but it's quite evident it improves the torque curve throughout. I would definitely put that on my to-do list if I had the regular 2.7 plus motor.

@darrelwhite2649 Жыл бұрын

Is it worth voiding the warranty?

@ALMX5DP Жыл бұрын

@@darrelwhite2649 it's a factory option that can be installed at a dealer. Fully covered under warranty.

@wesleyhamer152 Жыл бұрын

Poor Andre and his missing cruise control. 😂

@hmficdavid2606 Жыл бұрын

thank you TFL for all of the Canyon/Colorado vids! Just picked up my 2023 AT4 Canyon and its awesome!!!

@erniearruda8861 Жыл бұрын

I’m sure Tommy has cruise control on that Camaro 😂😂

@SecularSpartan Жыл бұрын

One has cruise control, one doesn’t

@QualityCutsPLS Жыл бұрын

I had a mid eighties Nissan 4x4. My buddy and I were headed down the interstate and he asked if I had cruise control. I told him heck yeah we’re cruising and it’s under control.😂

@brianb1179 Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha great fun video guys , love watching your feed , incredible the difference between both trucks. What I would like to see is a race between the 22 V6 against the New Canyon. I have a 21 elevation V6 crew cab long box , love the truck so far. Great comparison and thanks for the video. Keep up the great work 💪👊

@sledstorm1 Жыл бұрын

Andre take your truck to the dealer and have them put the 430 tune on your truck for $700, totally worth it.

@elche1976 Жыл бұрын

Dang, now inflation has hit the tune. Harsh.

@brians.1357 Жыл бұрын

Sounds about right at the stealership, $350 for the flash and $350 for labor 😂

@K03sport 11 ай бұрын

or do pedal commander lvl 9 all the time

@brians.1357 Жыл бұрын

Can you get splash/mud guards for the front wheel wells on the Trailboss or is it a supplier issue that only the rear has them ??

@gtileo Жыл бұрын

its the smaller tires of the Canyon, puts more power down to the wheels then the Colorado. the extra torque helps since the HO will pull in the mid range better but the tire size plays a big roll in it

@RonaldRayStreet Жыл бұрын

Is there a difference in the weight and or overall size of the tires and wheels? That could effect the results

@hardnaaklife Жыл бұрын

More torque is good. But squeezing more torque out of the same engine just means a shorter engine life. Unless GM is upgrading engine internals on the h.o. model.

@chiefman8316 Жыл бұрын

@@carbonking53 Yes Time will tell it is still a GM 4bangerturbo will it last 200k miles like a Toyota or Honda??? Do we take a $50k gamble???

@smiller225 Жыл бұрын

Probably more like detuning the lesser engine

@wilmarbarrick3194 Жыл бұрын

@@carbonking53 A lot of unproven technology. At least unproven outside of GM validation testing. Don't know how long you've been around but GM testing doesn't have a "World Class" history over the past 50 years.

@thelosteddies Жыл бұрын

It's already upgraded and designed from the beginning to be boosted more. Look up the specs. It's a heavy duty 4 cyl.

@thelosteddies Жыл бұрын

@@chiefman8316 I've had 4 gm engines over 200k, a friend has one over 300k and the I've never had to put any engine in the others I got rid of that were over 150k, so personally I'd have no concerns.

@Christopher_Black Жыл бұрын

I remember when Andre didnt speak English in the videos... I've been enjoying your videos for a long time! Thanks TFL!

@vancitycoaster Жыл бұрын

Hahaha I knew it was coming and you delivered Cruised on thru lol We all love you Andre lol

@wilmarbarrick3194 Жыл бұрын

As long as I could meet my towing/hauling requirements, I'd rather have the $8000.00 in my pocket.

@dalejones4322 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting video and I always love the drag races. Will you upgrade your engine now Andre?

@elche1976 Жыл бұрын

If he wants to use his truck in drag races, yes. For a truck, no purpose.

@dalejones4322 Жыл бұрын

@@elche1976 He tows and said in another video he was considering it

@The1PhillyPhil Жыл бұрын

7:51 “maybe Roman fell asleep in the… WHAT!?” Lol

@machfive916 Жыл бұрын

Great video guys!

@mccormickmotorsinc. Жыл бұрын

Technically its only $395 for the dealer installed tune! You can crack it up to 430 that way as well

@wizeguiz 10 ай бұрын

Andre, don't feel bad about not having cruise control. 99.9% of all the vehicles I have owned had it and I have never used it......not even on long trips! I am in my 50's and still use my mirrors to back up. The rear camera is nice, but I am old school! Cheers!

@craigstark2712 Жыл бұрын

The Silverado version of the 2.7 turbo has a great aftermarket parts market that helps you squeeze a a bit more juice out of those motors. That being said, it won't be long before the Colorados and Canyons have those same power upgrades available. So I would opt for the lower version, based on that price difference. Make yours that fast within a couple of years for MUCH less.

@yosammy1746 Жыл бұрын

15sec on a truck is not bad. Looking forward to the new tacoma head-to-head with the Colorado zr2.

@jimmycline4778 8 ай бұрын

It won’t be any faster than this GMC with the HO tune, it has the same power! My Colorado Trail Boss with every option you can get is 20k less than the ZR2 plus I have same power!

@MeatloafMelvin 6 ай бұрын

@@jimmycline4778But none of the capability outside of that.

@brians.1357 Жыл бұрын

I rented a Camaro last week from AVIS just like that one. Nice car!

@MrGrabich Жыл бұрын

Your classic horsepower/torque explanation with a wall is not correct. You were correct about horsepower, it tells you how fast you hit a wall. But torque doesn't tell you how far you go through the wall, it tell you how far you can move that wall if you try to push it or pull it.

@psalwasser Жыл бұрын

what about the tow ratings for a practical evaluation?

@slmjake Жыл бұрын

Remember us old guys when we put a choke cable on the carb linkage to a handle inside the cab on our old trucks make our own half whitted cruise control?

@MaskedArtisan Жыл бұрын

Is launch control in Baja mode not available in these trucks? Or is that a next year bison option?

@paulmadkow9143 Жыл бұрын

My son bought a used Chevy Cruze without cruise control. He didn't realize it until he brought it home.

@mikefoehr235 Жыл бұрын

Cruze control

@hotbeerjosh9019 Жыл бұрын

Not sure why it matters if your offroading/mini work truck is faster than another truck, or a camaro.

@elche1976 Жыл бұрын

C'mon, everyone knows real men buy trucks for drag racing and not truck functions. 😂

@MrJamesLuz Жыл бұрын

how nice of the rental company to give Tommy an "upgrade" from the Altima

@carteragencyinsuranceservi4640 Жыл бұрын

Love the channel, guys! 😂😂 I'll keep my V8 guys! Thanks anyway!

@frh-freerangehuman Жыл бұрын

This was a pretty interesting comparison.

@fredperiquet1476 4 ай бұрын

Did the truck throw any codes? Keep us posted there are any issues. Thanks! Dig your videos.

@reallyemptypockets6509 Жыл бұрын

You should race with the cruise control on.

@justsomegarage Жыл бұрын

So if its just calibration. Wonder if aftermarket will do the same cheaper or yank more hp out of it

@vinaashak Жыл бұрын

You can actually buy the high output tune directly from gm for $395 and get the exact same power.

@Spartan_-du9wi Жыл бұрын

Great Video! Any idea when Chevy will start building and delivering ZR2's? I would like to have my 23 before 24!

@ethenjordan2010 Жыл бұрын

Exactly why I went to get the Denali. Been pushed so many times. But I’m glad I swapped

@prestonbonner2456 Жыл бұрын

Loving the canyon!

@andyhamilton2202 Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@khakiswag Жыл бұрын

Really don’t like that this engine option thing is just a money grab by GM. You’re not getting any additional hardware for your money just a “tune”. What’s next, you have A/C but if you want really cold A/C then that’ll be an additional $1,000.

@99-Zulu Жыл бұрын

I think MB and Audi make you subscribe to get extra power. At least you get to buy it and keep it with Chevy.

@RysterARCEE Жыл бұрын

@@99-Zulu For now...GM announced a couple of days ago they intend to jump on the subscription bandwagon.

@benh1356 Жыл бұрын

Why didn't you race the high output vs the Camaro that would have been pretty close

@ScotDouglas Жыл бұрын

Go get the flash upgrade Andre. :)

@danielvillarreal8892 Жыл бұрын

During that first race I thought I was going to have to get out the calendar

@Volstandigkeit 6 ай бұрын

Andre, is that more torx or torques? Serious question, after 5-6 months with the Colorado, would you buy it again or opt for something else?

@kevinj2412 Жыл бұрын

People used to buy trucks or cars because they fit their needs, now it seems everything has to be about power and speed and trying to impress the world. I personally wouldn't buy any of this new stuff no matter who makes it.

@elche1976 Жыл бұрын

Instant gratification society where people buy to get validation from others instead for things they need to do. Nailed it.

@jeffs2809 Жыл бұрын

You should go back & watch some ads from the 70’s, 80’s & 90’s.

@jamesclark9791 Жыл бұрын

I have cruise control on my Colorado never use it

@tomstarcevich1147 Жыл бұрын

I have it on my ram1500 classic tradesman I never use it either 😳🛻

@GTOGregory Жыл бұрын

Add a good tune on any of the vehicles and I bet another 25HP is possible. Add a better turbo and there's another 35HP.

@K03sport 11 ай бұрын

turbos are expensive...probably better to stick w/a tune and an exhaust. heavy wheels and tires don't help. are there lighter parts (fenders, hood, etc) for these trucks?

@therichie9916 2 ай бұрын

The slight extra power is not worth the price. The cruise control option is worth a few extra bucks though.

@josephbreen9955 Жыл бұрын

Those little trucks are pretty quick

@liled3 Жыл бұрын

Yes, tire size and tire style should have been the same on both trucks. Also making sure gear ratio was the same.

@thebigv8644 Жыл бұрын

That was my first thought was the rear end ratio.

@IVloses Жыл бұрын

All Colorados and Canyons have the same final drive ratio.

@NWI_Steel Жыл бұрын

@IVloses yes but the canyon had 1 inch smaller tires IIRC which changes the final drive ratio

@_penguin_ Ай бұрын

It’s like 400 bucks for the high output tune. Any truck with the medium output engine can have the high output tune put on it…

@AwesomesMan 11 ай бұрын

Is the reliability the same between the powertrains though?

@Anthony-nv7gd 5 күн бұрын

How is anyone supposed to factually speak to that on first model year vehicles the year they are released?

@waynehorner8042 Жыл бұрын

Andre go to the dealer and get the added torque. Get a t-shirt that says (Real men don't need cruise control)😤.

@alejandroordonez9196 Жыл бұрын

Good afternoon where is the drag race of the Ranger and Colorado or Canyon??

@RouteACG Жыл бұрын

I'm a little surprised to see no comments about the "matching" outfits... Roman matching the Colorado, and Andre matching the Canyon! Now Andre needs to get the upgrade and compare again to see if it's the same as getting the high output from the factory!

@Jay-me7gw Жыл бұрын

HP tells you the tractive effort one engine can generate at a given speed vs another. An engine with higher HP will be able to put more force to the pavement at any speed than an engine with less HP, factoring in gearing. This is why 8/9/10 speed transmissions are great. They let the engine operate at or very near the HP peak regardless of speed. A 400hp engine with a 10 speed is more likely to end up at peak HP rpm and put more force to the pavement than a 400 hp engine with a 4 speed.

@jeffs2809 Жыл бұрын

I think you may be mixing up hp & torque. Generally speaking the hp peak of an engine is very high in its rpm range while peak torque is usually much lower, more so with many of the more recent small turbo gas engines. The idea of the multi speed transmission should be to keep the engine operating near the torque peak. I guess to put it more appropriately, cruising at peak torque and being able to access peak hp on demand( downshifting), but you wouldn’t want peak hp at all times or you’d be at high rpm’s at all times. The 8/9/10 spd transmissions (with 2 or 3 overdrives) your talking about are intended for fuel economy.

@jasonlarsen3515 Жыл бұрын

No physical head light switch and missing cruise control? Wild

@PreppedinKansas Жыл бұрын

In Andre's defense, I've never owned a Chevy, car or truck, that the cruise control worked the entire time I owned it anyway... they always crap out. Might just be cuz I buy used only though.

@OBS4ever16 Жыл бұрын

I think it's just Chevy. I had a 94 dodge Dakota with Working cruise and 200000 miles and I now have a 93 f150 also with working cruise.

@GTfromAG Жыл бұрын

I can't wait to modify my Ford Explorer Sport Trac V8. Then, pull up to some other mid-size trucks and eat them up. May go after full-size pickups as well😈🙌🏾😈💯

@srt10h4rml3ss 9 ай бұрын

the torque is only 10% more.....I guess with the MT's the net effect could be a bit more realistically? I'd love the extra 40 ft/lbs Torque on my new Trail Boss but it's just not worth the cost. $150 CDN they'd have every Turbo-Plus engine owner do it in a heartbeat :) Howz your MPG doing now Andre?

@Kushgroove234 6 ай бұрын

It’s a $450 tune at the dealer That’s worth it

@AJ-rg3pr 11 ай бұрын

I’m excited to see the new hybrid max Tacoma out there

@spxram4793 Жыл бұрын

🤣0:45 a Camaro with a 4cyl turbo - sby also should nominate a vacuum cleaner participating

@dalewilliams6440 Жыл бұрын

Yaya gmc is getting improved

@Tony-hf9mv Жыл бұрын

Only watched the first min but running the truck against the car hurts the next race as heat soak is a thing in racing. After watching not sure it would have made much of a difference

@Mike-Capz83 Жыл бұрын

Andre you should put premium in and do this test again~!

@jezreelmarino4133 5 ай бұрын

How about the high output vs the older v6🤔

@craigstark2712 Жыл бұрын

It hurts my heart when I see how many of those four cylinder engines are making their way into Camaros and full-size Silverados 😂. I'm not as disappointed with the idea of it in a Colorado or Canyon, although the baby Duramax would be more ideal.

@henryford2736 Жыл бұрын

Andre.... should have brought a blue 💙 F150 Powerboost with cruise to the fight...😅😅😅

@johnwhitneykokalis9990 Жыл бұрын

Maybe my 2wd Canyon will be faster with less 4wd components to add weight to the truck. Does that make sence?

@bigbeef8935 Жыл бұрын

There’s no replacement for displacement, it’s like guys that buy the 4cyl Silverados

@betochipistube6543 8 ай бұрын

What is the 0-60 on the high output

@callofdutyguy9 Жыл бұрын

What is the point of the 430tq in a midsize chassis. Truck won’t tow or haul more. The lower output engine will last longer most likely.

@domin8ss Жыл бұрын

This video had me curious what a Silverado Trail Boss would do against a Colorado Trail Boss. To make it fair, use the 5.3 V8 with 10-speed. If I was close I would bring my 6.2 Trail Boss.

@SickTheory Жыл бұрын

5.3 has 355 hrspursss while the 6.2 has 420. Either one would smoke these smaller trucks.

@garys2157 Жыл бұрын

@@SickTheory But doesn't a siliverado 2.7 smoke a 5.3.

@SickTheory Жыл бұрын

@@garys2157 you know i think its quicker off the line but i think its with the 8 speed silverado?

@garys2157 Жыл бұрын

@@SickTheory I think it's using the 10 speed as of this year.

@MrFordguy73 Жыл бұрын

Poor Andre,that cruise control is going haunt him for many long time.😄

@redoakranch1783 Жыл бұрын

I’ve never liked how we measure torque and hp. High torque is just having hp at a lower rpm. If we just looked at hp over the rpm range then torque becomes meaningless. This is why a slightly lower hp turbo is usually faster than na engine with more hp. The turbo has more hp over the bottom 3/4 of the rpm range.

@nlken7175 Жыл бұрын

Here he come. boy in the bright white sports car. LOL

@chbd7734 Жыл бұрын

Time to cruise on Roman, give Andre a break 😂

@michaelwigley8856 Жыл бұрын

How is cruise control not standard equipment that crazy.

@MEFelicia Жыл бұрын

Top Gear but for trucks. Make this a show!

@docholliday7548 Жыл бұрын

NO question for me: Nothing less than the H.O. for my 2023 ZR2.

@robertchapman4488 Жыл бұрын

I want to see the Colorado or canyon vs the ranger

@youtubetrollking1880 Жыл бұрын

Even the current ranger would shit on these.

@flatspot4736 Жыл бұрын

I think they are decent looking little trucks...looks better than before. Had some Tacoma similarities though.

@jasonperry7970 Жыл бұрын

Andres Colorado vs. Silverado 2500hd 6.6 next?

@Silverback_GMT410 Жыл бұрын

Wow! The outgoing Ford Ranger you have/had is faster than Andres brand new Colorado! And .16 seconds slower than the brand new GMC Canyon. 2.3 Vs 2.7 270hp Vs 310hp 310lb ft Vs 390/430lb ft🤯🤯🤯