The Abandoned Hill With Two Members Of Parliament

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Old Sarum, in Wiltshire, is a now-desolate hillfort run by English Heritage. But it was once one of the most important sites in southern England: so important that it had two members of Parliament. Then, it became a "rotten borough": and a warning about power.
Thanks to English Heritage: more information and how to visit: www.english-heritage.org.uk/v...
Research and script assistance from Jess Jewell
Drone camera by Jamie Bellinger
Edited by Michelle Martin: / @onthecrux
Audio mix by Graham Haerther: haerther.net
Filmed safely, following all local and national guidance: www.tomscott.com/safe/
SOURCES:
Corfield, P. (2000). Power and the professions in Britain 1700-1850. London: Routledge.
Dodsworth, W. (1814). An historical description of the cathedral church of Salisbury : including an account of the monuments, chiefly extracted from Gough's "Sepulchral Monuments," and other authentic documents : also, biographical memoirs of the Bishops of Salisbury, from the earliest period by W. Dodsworth, verger of the Cathedral
English Heritage's own research page: www.english-heritage.org.uk/v...
www.historyhome.co.uk/c-eight/...
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@TomScottGo 4 жыл бұрын

Strong wind doesn't play well with lockdown hair. I forgot to put the tag at the start of the video, but this was filmed safely, following all Covid guidance and law: you can pull down the description for a link to the precautions I'm taking!

@smileless3465 4 жыл бұрын

Good tom!

@chaewonpupuz 4 жыл бұрын

Hi :)

@mikumicha7363 4 жыл бұрын

Great Job Tom! Keep up the valuable content!

@manoballimbu4051 4 жыл бұрын

What... how does your comment say 3 weeks ago when this video came out 1 minute ago?

@ppilleppille1516 4 жыл бұрын

What,this was commented 3 weeks ago and the video came out today

@lifthras11r 4 жыл бұрын

I honestly feel like Tom is shouting "one take!" to the sky in the outro.

@marysiamilach8460 4 жыл бұрын

got the same vibe. That was a nice moment

@GaviLazan 4 жыл бұрын

I feel like every time we see him at the end of a video he's yelling "one take!"

@marysiamilach8460 4 жыл бұрын

@@GaviLazan Nothing would top the "one take!" after the one about KZfaq IDs. Sometimes I rewatch it solely for the ending and it has never failed me to bring me joy. Good times.

@Electroporcupine 4 жыл бұрын

@@marysiamilach8460 I rewatched that one just last night, he's so chuffed with himself.

@timj6121 4 жыл бұрын

Those are definitley the "one take!" arms haha

@tkgsg 4 жыл бұрын

A moment of silence for all people like me who thought that this hill still has 2 MPs

@deinname7981 4 жыл бұрын

@amrutasaralkar8008 4 жыл бұрын

@supernoodle704 4 жыл бұрын

@567secret 4 жыл бұрын

I wasn't sure what the title meant to begin with, for some reason I parsed it as "The Abandoned Hill, With Two Members Of Parliament " so thought this video was either going to include two MPs, OR there were two MPs buried there. Much happier with the direction it went though.

@tobster1499 4 жыл бұрын

@RyanNeufeld 4 жыл бұрын

"History is fractal" - such an elegant way to describe it.

@madokafied 4 жыл бұрын

It really is

@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 4 жыл бұрын

There's just so much of it.

@jakedee4117 4 жыл бұрын

Nice isn't it, the closer you look at history the more detail is revealed and you'll never get to the end of it.

@ogivecrush 4 жыл бұрын

It always exasperates me when I watch a history video and invariably someone(or many someones) will comment that they can't believe they didn't learn about it in school. So much history, so few school years.........

@AdrianPardini 3 жыл бұрын

Connections by James Burke is such a nice example of this.

@CalebDennis1 4 жыл бұрын

"It is extremely difficult to convince people with power to give it up willingly." As Gary would say, "topical."

@charlieackroyd3243 3 жыл бұрын

It’s even more topical now

@lawrencecalablaster568 3 жыл бұрын

“SATIRE”

@GeorgeFarren 3 жыл бұрын

@@charlieackroyd3243 And even more even more today. New voter suppression laws yay! /s

@freddy4603 3 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna be impressed when there's a moment where this ISN'T topical

@smg7602 3 жыл бұрын

Gary? Who the hell is Gary?

@swumbles 4 жыл бұрын

manchester: hi we'd like these laws some guy on a hill: *no*

@sandwich2473 4 жыл бұрын

riots ensue some guy on a hill: no more riots some guy on a hill: no even more riots some guy on a hill: ok

@HappyBeezerStudios 4 жыл бұрын

some guys not on a hill

@TheInselaffen 4 жыл бұрын

Settle down our kid.

@Flutesrock8900 4 жыл бұрын

More like: Some guy whom we pretend is still on a hill *wink wink nudge nudge*

@rudmanpaul2812 4 жыл бұрын

Nowt changes

@snake3rd 4 жыл бұрын

Never thought my house would be in a Tom Scott video, but can just about see it from here!

@gizmodobaggins7040 4 жыл бұрын

Daryl Watts doxed yourself.

@Alien1375 4 жыл бұрын

Nice place to live.

@ElaborateTiger 4 жыл бұрын

Hey I'm outside, let me in

@chairchair1231 4 жыл бұрын

@Susan Reed,????????

@aliakeel 4 жыл бұрын

@@chairchair1231 why 🙄 can't 😑 you 😕 understand 😮 what 😞 they're ☹️ saying 🤔😑🙁😒

@tobeytransport2802 4 жыл бұрын

I thought this was either going to be: - two MPs were buried there OR - you going along with two MPs to the hill 😅 oh how wrong I was

@MissCracker 4 жыл бұрын

I thought it was a MP tomb or something 😭

@GumSkyloard 4 жыл бұрын

I thought it had 2 statues of MPs.

@christopherlee-hudson3283 4 жыл бұрын

@@ragnkja I only know about rotten boroughs from Blackadder.

@bulman07 4 жыл бұрын

Or a constituency boundary splitting it down the middle

@HassanSelim0 4 жыл бұрын

I thought two MPs lived there or are currently living there 😂

@EvelynnEleonore 3 жыл бұрын

How I got radicalized: Tom Scott explaining that historically, often only the threat of disempowerment through force can convince those in power to share it

@graceygrumble 3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes, those in power really want to raise up everyone, because they see the country as a society which needs to advance. They're increasingly scarce.

@mortimer687 3 жыл бұрын

@@graceygrumble sadly though, the institutions many of those people in power work with only represent the interests of the oppressors from the start. power can only be attained by dismantling the current system and replacing it with the power of the oppressed.

@graceygrumble 3 жыл бұрын

@@mortimer687 Many believe that power is only ever relinquished through fear of revolution, or revolution itself. Sometimes, people like Cadbury and Salt, show that taking care of 'the worker' increases productivity and their own personal wealth. Until everyone sees that housing people; giving them well-paid work; educating them and looking after their health is necessary in order to increase the prosperity of everyone, we'll continue with an unfair and fearful society: More prisons, more crime, more police and more gated housing. Being 'good' is economically viable, but people can't see it, because they're foolish.

@cook_it 4 жыл бұрын

The last quote is too true. "It's hard to convince people with power to give up that power" is the exact problem that many in this world face.

@josh_final 4 жыл бұрын

Which is why we need to be careful when deciding which powers we give the government. For too much of the world its a bit late

@Wasserkaktus 4 жыл бұрын

It isn't if you are actively humble your whole life: Then power is a noble privilege you are given and can freely and easily relinquish when there isn't any further reason to wield it.

@TheUnitedEstates 4 жыл бұрын

@@Wasserkaktus I, for one, am extraordinarily humble. Perhaps the most so.

@woutervanr 4 жыл бұрын

Even harder to convince people not in power that the people in power are usually the ones responsible for their misfortune and not "the others"/"traitors". I'm willing to bet that this is the case in not only every current country, but also every single on that has been. There still is hope for the future, always.

@katethegoat7507 4 жыл бұрын

Eat the rich

@BrainsApplied 4 жыл бұрын

Tom Scott, the guy who can equally well talk about IT, art or history!

@oricalu448 4 жыл бұрын

And linguistics

@curioustill 4 жыл бұрын

Or even implied social commentary disguised as history ;-)

@nagata277 4 жыл бұрын

That's his talent, talking something and making it entertaining!

@Linkzcap 4 жыл бұрын

Is it "equally well talk" or "talk equally well"? If only we had someone who could equally talk well about linguistics...

@maskettaman1488 4 жыл бұрын

It's just the wikipedia page on a topic but with a british accent. Excellent presentation nevertheless

@timhorsburgh2193 3 жыл бұрын

"It is extremely difficult to convince people with power to give it up willingly." - Tom Scott, Things You Almost Certainly Know

@FISHD0G747 4 жыл бұрын

"History is fractal. You could spend days, or years, or a lifetime studying everything that happened over those few days in 1832. Or, you could sum up centuries in a few minutes." 5:17 Fantastic quote. Beautifully summarizes an idea I've always had but could never had stated so clearly. Have a feeling it will stick with me.

@blatherskite3009 2 жыл бұрын

Yep. That line jumped out at me, too. Fractal is a great description: the more you "zoom in" the more detail there is.

@scottnunnemaker5209 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like this is most peoples view of history, which is also why it’s a great excuse not to learn any history or at least any meaningful history. All the good history stuff is in the details anyway.

@bigredc222 2 жыл бұрын

@@scottnunnemaker5209 Sometimes you learn things about your hero's that you wish you didn't learn.

@scottnunnemaker5209 2 жыл бұрын

@@bigredc222 good, then you can stop worshipping horrible people as heroes because of ignorance.

@bigredc222 2 жыл бұрын

@@scottnunnemaker5209 I don't have to worry, I've never worshipped anyone.

@charlieg.8768 4 жыл бұрын

Me and the boys owning an old castle to get seats in parliment

@chrisgurney2467 4 жыл бұрын

''And now the returning Officer for Dunny on the wold, Mr E Blackadder...."

@chthonicmonster 4 жыл бұрын

... and Mr S Baldrick.

@svmitche 4 жыл бұрын

And a Robber Button is?

@Shaun.Stephens 4 жыл бұрын

@@svmitche ... a Rubber Bottom with a few letters transposed.

@alexgreenwood404 4 жыл бұрын

@@chthonicmonster sod off

@mulgerbill 4 жыл бұрын

And we're all very glad that Mr Blackadder stepped in at the last moment

@lazarusmekhane439 2 жыл бұрын

I'd just like to emphasise how chaotic the demand for Reform was. When the Reform bill was rejected the second time in the House of Lords, rioters in the city of Bristol controlled the entire city for three entire days; in which they burnt down numerous palaces and mansions of Anti-Reform politicians. When the Reform bill was rejected the third time, there was a dangerous period titled, 'The Days of May'. During which there was a massive run on the banks and caused £1.8 million to be withdrawn from the Bank of England. In today's terms, that's £200 million. In fact, the only way Reform was ever achieved, it required the Pro-Reform Prime Minister, Earl Grey, to threaten the House of Lords by asking King William IV to flood the House with Pro-Reform Lords.

@mollusckscramp4124 Жыл бұрын

That's really cool, the history of "public outrage" is so important when you look back at progress for such large nations

@_iphoenix_6164 4 жыл бұрын

Imagine being a hill and then an MP comes along

@runlarryrun77 4 жыл бұрын

"Hello, I wonder if you'd consider voting for me..."

@kyriacosstavrinides893 4 жыл бұрын

That's why it's in ruins.

@_iphoenix_6164 4 жыл бұрын

Kyriacos Stavrinides ayy

@Madhattersinjeans 4 жыл бұрын

Imagine being a hill. No I don't think I will.

@esquilax5563 4 жыл бұрын

I don't think an MP coming along adds much to the weirdness when I'm already imagining being a hill

@lizardlegend42 4 жыл бұрын

1:55 ah yes the famous Salisbury Cathedral, so famous that it would warrent a couple days' holiday from Russia for the sole purpose to look at the cathedral.

@Ma_Zhongying 4 жыл бұрын

They then went back to Moscow after Salisbury was too cold.

@DELLPOWEREDGER 4 жыл бұрын

Why of course have you not pondered with great awe at the 123m tall spire comrade *cough* *cough* friend

@Makujah_ 4 жыл бұрын

Can someone tell what this references to?

@narutohokage20 4 жыл бұрын

@@Makujah_ the Salisbury poisoning a few years back

@puzzlem 4 жыл бұрын

@@Makujah_ Skripal poisoning

@epiendless1128 4 жыл бұрын

"Mr. Scott, _you_ are the only voter in this rotten borough...?" "Yes, that's right." "One voter, 11k upvotes -- a slight anomaly...?" "Not really, Mr. Hanna. The number of votes I cast is simply a reflection of how firmly I believe in this video."

@brantnuttall 4 жыл бұрын

Nice. As soon as we heard the phrase rotten borough, we knew where it was heading.

@IlanPearlman 4 жыл бұрын

A rubber button

@EcceJack 4 жыл бұрын

Glad I'm not the only one with such a one-track mind 😄

@johnmisterjtatrevor-allen5790 4 жыл бұрын

@@IlanPearlman Well lucky, lucky us! Luuuck! Luuuuck! LuckluckLUUUUCK!!

@TechnicFyre 4 жыл бұрын

For those like myself, who may be wondering: it’s a reference to Blackadder season three, episode one “Dish and Dishonesty” in which Blackadder gets a hold of a rotten borough, and as its single voter casts 16472 votes for Baldrick.

@SpudY2K 4 жыл бұрын

The sad thing is, if the rotten boroughs hadn't been abolished when they were, there would be no shortage of people today, many with a lot of power and influence, who'd be happy to argue that they deserve to exist. That getting rid of them would be an affront to tradition and everything the country stands for. Worth thinking about that when politicians defend things in the name of tradition.

@jackdutfield6096 4 жыл бұрын

Given Scott's use of landscape shots my house would turn up in one of these videos eventually, and here we are

@Totalinternalreflection 4 жыл бұрын

Jack Dutfield ditto

@mezalong 4 жыл бұрын

No it didn't.

@MrEazyE357 4 жыл бұрын

Post a screenshot and circle it

@CharalamposKoundourakis 4 жыл бұрын

@@MrEazyE357 Get off it.

@dilksjoel 4 жыл бұрын

that_G_EvanP I’m with you. We’re waiting.

@mojosbigsticks 4 жыл бұрын

We camped on Old Sarum as re-enactors, and I fell in love with my partner in Salisbury Cathedral tea shop. Thanks for the memories Tom.

@Dockhead 4 жыл бұрын

now thats a story!

@MichaelBosley 4 жыл бұрын

I used to go to the re-enactments as a child every summer. Good fun.

@gregoryspatisserie9858 4 жыл бұрын

That’s very sweet

@Alfonso162008 4 жыл бұрын

Re-enactors of what, if I may ask?

@mojosbigsticks 4 жыл бұрын

@@Alfonso162008 Medieval, War of the Roses to be precise. But the town's procession also included a dragon on a string, so maybe not completely accurate.

@vidieo__ 4 жыл бұрын

Tom, you never cease to amaze me. "It is extremely difficult to convince people with power to give it up willingly" is exactly the problem that we're facing right now!

@KyleDB150 4 жыл бұрын

"History is fractal" That's an excellent way to say it, you can spend the same amount of time studying one day in one persons life, or a century of a civilisation's rise and fall, just depends how deep you want to look. It's important to think though, we're probably in just the dawn of recorded history, just a handful of generations from figuring out the earth goes round the sun. As much history as there is, there's an infinite amount more yet to be made (hopefully)

@BobMarley-vl5gl 4 жыл бұрын

Kyle Brown *cue distant sound of nukes dropping*

@nomadiccleric5672 4 жыл бұрын

*of OUR recorded history :) aliens!!

@Timohtep 4 жыл бұрын

A rotten borough was a major plot point in an episode of Black Adder, so I actually happened to know what they were before I watched this video. Thanks Rowan Atkinson!

@namugriff 4 жыл бұрын

Timohtep and Mister S. Baldrick.

@chthonicmonster 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry to bother you Mr E Blackadder, but what does the S in his name stand for?

@chthonicmonster 4 жыл бұрын

Ah, Sodoff

@autribasu 4 жыл бұрын

Java Coder “When I was a young boy, I’d try to play with the other children, and introduce myself as Baldrick. They replied, yes, we know, Sod off Baldrick!”

@chthonicmonster 4 жыл бұрын

The power of an expensive turnip is to great. All I want one day is a turnip of my own.

@skidaim 4 жыл бұрын

This guy would be the final boss in Guess My Age

@RobertShippey 4 жыл бұрын

Twenty-fourty-five

@courtney-ray 4 жыл бұрын

Is that a game?

@troyka1a 3 жыл бұрын

@elton1981 3 жыл бұрын

I think he’s about 36

@FlamingMonocle Жыл бұрын

Came here on a school trip as a kid, my love of history developed almost immediately. Great video.

@georgethompson5407 4 жыл бұрын

One of the best parts that was missed out is how the cathedral moved. According to legend, one of the archers in the castle was told to fire an arrow, and where it landed would be the new cathedral. As it fell, the arrow hit a white stag, which ran for eight miles, until it finally collapsed at the site of today’s cathedral’s alter.

@speedy01247 4 жыл бұрын

sounds like the archer was subtly telling them to leave town. (how else can you hit a animal on "accident" like that)

@TheBlackBrickStudios 2 жыл бұрын

You know you are watching a Tom Scott video when a discussion about a historically important hilltop turns into an existential reflection on human society with modern day parallels.

@ameliawhinney4173 4 жыл бұрын

So strange to see Old Sarum on a Tom Scott video - I was just up there yesterday on a walk. It's amazing to live in an area with so much history - the great views and fun you can have running up and down the hills are also a bonus!

@damascus6478 4 жыл бұрын

I remember going to Old Sarum about 25 years ago because I had free admission on some sort of tourist card. I got out at the Salisbury rail station and asked where it was and was told it was "just up the road." it took 45 minutes to walk there, and I remember it being uphill, and it was raining. As nice as it is, when I got there I was less than enthused because of the walk, the rain, and the thought that I had to walk back.

@efnissien 3 жыл бұрын

Dunwich was even more notorious as a Rotten Borough, it elected two members of parliament for a constituency that dated back to the 12th century - however, by the time the constituency was abolished in 1832, most of the village had fallen victim to coastal erosion and been washed out to sea.

@20quid 4 жыл бұрын

5:01 "These days Parliamentary boundaries are drawn by an independent group based on population." Sorry Americans.

@ShankarSivarajan 4 жыл бұрын

"Independent."

@the_original_Bilb_Ono 4 жыл бұрын

No apology neccessary.

@anyGould 4 жыл бұрын

@@ShankarSivarajan If it's anything like the Canadian commissions, it's about as independent as you can get while still using humans. My favorite feature of ours is that the independent commission gives the report to Parliament (or provincial assembly) for passage into law, so the lawmakers have to actually be on the record as being OK, or on the record claiming the commission screwed up and how. So they may not be happy that their dwindling rural base lost a seat... but is it worth being on the record saying they want an extra seat in spite of all the data saying it shouldn't have it? ;)

@ragzaugustus 4 жыл бұрын

@@ShankarSivarajan The way to make them independent, is to make it a split between competing political parties. That's the solution, so just make a it a 50/50 split between republicans and democrats, let some libertarian lunatic have a seat and leave one for a green or something, there we go, that's how you avoid gerrymandering. Or just go proportional and avoid the whole mess.

@Tustin2121 4 жыл бұрын

The districts drawn within each state in the US for representatives (state and national) are based on population, which is recounted by the census every ten years, but we still have trouble with that “independent group” part...

@MauriceGucci 4 жыл бұрын

Funny how a goofy story about a super old hill having 2 MPs suddenly turns into a story that fits present situations in the world so perfectly. History and the present are still very much human and therefore not that different from each other. Thanks for another great and insightful video, Tom!

@user-xz9dp7qo2b 4 жыл бұрын

"how do you convince people with power to give up that power? Public outrage, radicals, protests" Spot on "Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth." - Lucy Parsons

@dairallan 4 жыл бұрын

@Jonathan Williams You must be some sort of revisionist idiot. No democracy has ended because rich people paid taxes. However, almost every democracy which was killed was killed due to wealth hoarding by an ever narrower elite and their refusal to pay their share. This is what history records. But as the facts dont fit your narrative, sure, you make things up.

@IamCoalfoot 4 жыл бұрын

I agree, but would like to add: Take care that your actions do not harm those you would wish to save, because such is not revolution, but dissolution.

4 жыл бұрын

@@dairallan taxes are paid on profits, not on seized capital.

@Ljubi12882 3 жыл бұрын

@@dairallan Their share? Like back in the days in Russia when people were finally free and some of them, the kulaks, used their new liberties to get wealthy. But then they were deported to Sibiria to freeze because of less skillfull people's jealousy. That was entirely the fault of the kulaks and that's what i call justice!

@kabobawsome 3 жыл бұрын

@@dairallan Bingo. Athens, the original democracy, which already HIGHLY favored the wealthy, nearly collapsed into an oligarchy because some rich people wanted more. The Roman Republic fell because 3 rich dudes wanted more power (before all betraying each other). The Wiemar Republic fell because the Allied Powers had tried to use their victory in WWI to attempt to treat Germany as another colony and because a bunch of land-owners and wealthy people were terrified of fair elections. The US government coup-ed the Bolivian government recently at the ADMITTED behest of Elon Musk. The rich are the one who kill democracy.

@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 жыл бұрын

Tom with the truth bombs at the end though

@haroldthetallandmighty4544 4 жыл бұрын

It'll be a dark day in hell when Tom Scott runs out of things to talk about

@countertony 4 жыл бұрын

"I'm standing at the river Styx." (Drone camera pulls back and up to show Tom under portable floodlights next to a river. Cue socially-distanced interview with Charon.)

@donaldasayers 4 жыл бұрын

I would watch a Tom Scott video about a dark day in hell.

@haroldthetallandmighty4544 4 жыл бұрын

@@donaldasayers It'd be a 40 min documentary about the phrase

@donaldasayers 4 жыл бұрын

@@countertony And going on to point out that the three headed dog is called Cerberus, which means "Spot".

@TheElvisnator 4 жыл бұрын

Imagine him dying It'll be the shittiest and darkest day in history And Reckful also died on Thursday. Can we get an F in the chat, bois?

@willman2k8 4 жыл бұрын

Reading about Peterloo it's upsetting that this isn't more heavily remembered for the tragedy it was

@gemstonegynoid7475 4 жыл бұрын

Sad thing is it's not a unique event by any count. Even here in USA theres been multiple government sanctioned massacres against protesters

@TheStarBlack 4 жыл бұрын

Dark stains on the establishment have a funny way of getting forgotten.

@zekewhiak956 3 жыл бұрын

Blackstar 76 not really forgotten

@bacicinvatteneaca 3 жыл бұрын

That's how it works. The more a protest challenges actual power structures, the more violently it gets repressed. That should tell you a bit about the Capitol storming from the other day.

@JohnyG29 2 жыл бұрын

People keep talking about the bloody event, I'm surprised anyone hasn't heard of it. Can one call 18 deaths a "massacre"?

@RoraxPlays 4 жыл бұрын

"it is extremely difficult to convince people with power to give it up, willingly." Ayeee I see what you did there, good on you Tom

@JoeKoenen 4 жыл бұрын

This video made me cry. You did a really good job threading a needle, and making a statement.

@qwertyTRiG 4 жыл бұрын

I love how many of your videos don't merely present interesting information, but also end with a point and something more generally relevant to our lives or our understanding of history and society. Thanks.

@javidproductions9353 4 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Tom Scott and Ted Ed upload a video at exactly the same time (within a minute) every Monday. Edit: typo

@jobansand 4 жыл бұрын

Wait, seriously??

@sprigsprog 4 жыл бұрын

Gotta love Tom Scoot. Tom Scott’s scootering brother.

@anthonynonstop7533 4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@mauz791 4 жыл бұрын

@@sprigsprog skeet skeet

@evo_is_confused 4 жыл бұрын

Tom: Local Bishop Me: what's his name gonna be? Something regal and important sounding? Tom: _Roger_

@davidweihe6052 4 жыл бұрын

That WAS important sounding, back then, just like Faulk and (feminine) Anor or Matilda. Roger was a good strong Viking name (at least, before it lost the initial H). Styles change, although I *did* see an Osric (an authentic pre-Conquest Anglo-Saxon name) on Supernatural.

@nitehawk86 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, shrubberies are my trade. I am a shrubber. My name is Roger the Shrubber. I arrange, design, and sell shrubberies.

@thePronto 4 жыл бұрын

Roger is a noble name given to all 'cabin boys'.

@ralphg.curtis9297 4 жыл бұрын

"There are some who call me ... Tim."

@sussurus 4 жыл бұрын

And King Steve.

@Neil070 2 жыл бұрын

In 2022, those words "it is extremely difficult to get people with power to give it up willingly" ring very true for people in the UK and Sri Lanka

@thequillster 4 жыл бұрын

I love the messages at the end of these videos, especially with the added historical context that these locations provide. "It is extremely difficult to convince people with power to give it up willingly".

@argonaut8560 4 жыл бұрын

Fun little history lesson in 5 minutes quite enjoyable as well.

@seancraig7773 Жыл бұрын

Probably worth mentioning that for much of the last hundred years of its life as a rotten borough, Old Sarum was owned by a family (the Pitts) that produced two PMs. So not just some random powerful schmo, but at times the *most* powerful schmo.

@joeym5243 7 ай бұрын

Watched this during an intermission in a quiz bowl tournament and a question regarding the reform act was asked in the second half. Thanks mate for making videos so good I'd watch them multiple times

@myrarblom9539 4 жыл бұрын

let’s stop for a minute and talk about his light-blue hoodie.

@OrigamiMarie 4 жыл бұрын

It looks to me like a gray hoodie that got caught in the middle of a color grading triangle and was deemed the least important thing to get perfectly correct.

@Thisath100 4 жыл бұрын

definitely a light grey hoodie, don't worry

@benjaminvingborg3145 4 жыл бұрын

You are mistaken. The definition of the colour grey is the colour of Tom’s hoodie.

@zyaicob 4 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you brought it up

@franchufranchu119 4 жыл бұрын

Dont worry the red shirt is under it

@tya04 4 жыл бұрын

"It is extremely difficult to convince people with power to give it up willingly." Sounds familiar.

@nathangathercole6888 4 жыл бұрын

really enjoyed this video, just finished A-level history going over the parliamentary changes and going through events like the Peterloo massacre, suffragettes and the key figures like Henry Hunt, weird time in history especially when you look into how people got rights to vote, potwalloper is quite a weird one. and i recommend watching blackadder S3 as they go into surprisingly good detail about rotten boroughs and even who voted, which did include animals. well done England.... thanks Tom, putting the old archaeology and not so long ago reforms and different boroughs together made a good video, especially for me, someone who loves History, Archaeology and Ancient History. Sorry for the long Message all! Also Tom Please make more.

@autumnmatthews3179 4 жыл бұрын

An MP representing just themselves? That never happens nowadays

@GunadityaTripathi 4 жыл бұрын

"French Revolution was in *'living'* memory then"

@gordonrichardson2972 4 жыл бұрын

Throat gesture at 04:27

@BleuSquid 4 жыл бұрын

@@gordonrichardson2972 any idea what that gesture means?

@krashd 4 жыл бұрын

@@BleuSquid It generally means death, but in this instance it specifically means beheading as that is what happened to the French royals.

@KenKopin 4 жыл бұрын

I took it to mean that the "Living" part of Living Memory didn't strictly apply to everyone involved.

@pmaxgray 4 жыл бұрын

And of course, the most recent French Revolution was only two years prior. Together with a heap of other revolutions across Europe.

@princesidon 4 жыл бұрын

We love you Tom! Thanks for being my favorite KZfaqr and continuing to make videos! ❤️

@gastonmarian7261 4 жыл бұрын

Comrade Scott: "It is extremely difficult to convince people with power to give it up willingly."

@floof_hair3857 4 жыл бұрын

(that's why the shirt is red)

@EdwardWFeery 4 жыл бұрын

My favourite fact from the saga of Old Sarum is that Salisbury was originally known as New Sarum - and they didn't get round to officially changing the name until 2009. Thanks for another great and informative video.

@jacak47410 4 жыл бұрын

This was remarkably informative. US native here, So I knew nothing of this matter. I appreciate the time and effort putting all this together takes.

@xeltograit Жыл бұрын

Well, for what it's worth, the problem mentioned here was the entire reason and point of the extensive rioting we did from 1776 to 1783.

@VerrouSuo 4 жыл бұрын

TWO members of Parliament? That’s more members than we could ever get to agree!

@beeble2003 4 жыл бұрын

In those days, all boroughs returned two MPs.

@CharlieHardy96 3 жыл бұрын

"It is extremely difficult to get people with power to give it up willingly" well I never thought I'd hear something historical like that linked to something ongoing in 2020.

@jean-lucwalker3690 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, I'm impressed about how timely this video is. Such an important lesson to learn and you are such a good teacher to get us there.

@thelightless 4 жыл бұрын

Tom can make any random topic which I never thought I wanted to know interesting and really entertaining to watch. Really good content 👍

@savepangolins5196 4 жыл бұрын

You gotta appreciate the effort put into every video: Love your dedication and commitment!

@eaaeeeea 2 жыл бұрын

"It is extremely difficult to convince people with power to give it up willingly". It's sad when a person's ethics are corrupted by power, the only argument they'll believe is violence against them.

@Narokkurai 3 жыл бұрын

I remember listening to the Revolutions podcast and hearing something very interesting: until around the time of the English Civil War, the role of government wasn't to serve the citizens, but to manage land. The people *on* the land were relatively unimportant, what mattered was simply the land, its taxable value, and who actually controlled it. And controlling a hill fort could still have some value--even if it is abandoned.

@13gan 2 жыл бұрын

Considering that it evolve from the feudal age, it actually make a lot of sense. This is because the relationship between people are governed by an intricate system of feudal rights. Commoners technically have no obligation under feudal rights to be loyal to their kings but rather to their local lords. The lords themselves are practically autonomous with the king functioning more like a lord among lord rather than absolute monarch. Not to say that the kings are powerless but outside of the royal domain where the lord is directly the kings, the way their power function is indirect aside than certain prerogatives. That is why the House of Lords is the most important house of parliament then with the House of Commons being its junior counterpart.

@TheSpacecraftX 4 жыл бұрын

The rottenest of rotten boroughs. S. Baldrick has my vote.

@kirepudsje3743 4 жыл бұрын

I actually thought of the same person, but in his role from Time Team instead..

@rikeep 4 жыл бұрын

What does the S stand for?

@HMJ66 4 жыл бұрын

@@rikeep Sod off

@klonkikeklonki8760 4 жыл бұрын

@@HMJ66 Well, I guess it's none of my business really.

@saltezers2242 4 жыл бұрын

Great thread xD

@DanielVerberne 4 жыл бұрын

Tom you are one impressive fellow. I don’t doubt the significant behind-the-scenes effort and prep, but what we see and hear ultimately is extremely clear, professional and engaging content. I’m honoured to have known of you prior to your future elevation to Leader of the Milky Way.

@Bbonno 4 жыл бұрын

A Tom Scott video commenting on current events that is also timeless at the same time?! This is why we like this channel!

@OnlyGreatFilmMusic 4 жыл бұрын

Top Tip if you are visiting Stonehenge, it is very close to the Old Sarum; and the entrance fee of stonehenge alone is high enough to justify looking at getting a English Heritage yearly pass, giving free access to Stoneghenge, Old Sarum, and hundreds of other sites

@icedragonair 2 жыл бұрын

English heritage is such a great organization. Their KZfaq channel is great too. They do the sublime series "cooking the the victorian way" of course, but they have loads of other great vids too, and their work overall is really great.

@PotatoBoiYT 4 жыл бұрын

Tom Scott’s comment is three weeks ago, as usual!

@bigwooz501 4 жыл бұрын

Wait what

@Alligatr 4 жыл бұрын

sorcery

@thatonecuber9266 4 жыл бұрын

Like, how? probs just a scheduled video or something. Correct me if I’m wrong

@aliakeel 4 жыл бұрын

@@thatonecuber9266 the video was private for a bit of time, Tom put a comment when it was private

@madokafied 4 жыл бұрын

@@aliakeel im going with scheduled video

@herbieklein2271 Жыл бұрын

Tom has such a calming way to talk, i could listen to him for hours regardless of the topic/s

@gejyspa 4 жыл бұрын

Very informative as usual. I went to the wikipedia article about rotten boroughs, which also included the similar "pocket boroughs", and thus I was able to finally understand the line in HMS Pinafore that had for the past 40 years or so meant absolutely nothing to me (I mean, sure, I could have looked it up earlier, but never had the desire to).

@musclehank6067 4 жыл бұрын

The ground: increases in elevation by half a metre. The british: blimey mate! Take a gander at the size of that hill! Its nearly a whole mountain innit!

@enregistreur 4 жыл бұрын

« It is extreme difficult to convince people with power to give it up willingly. » Put in today’s context, that’s a very subtle move. Nicely done Tom!

@januernest8594 4 жыл бұрын

Discovered this channel about a week ago and it instantly became my favourite to watch

@JohnDavidDunlap 2 жыл бұрын

I really liked the thought "history is fractal". I've never thought about it in those terms.

@sprigsprog 4 жыл бұрын

Why does it feel like this video is awfully well timed? And then when I think about it, why it would be well timed at literally at any point in history.

@eoghan.5003 4 жыл бұрын

5:36 Tom Scott subtly advocating for violent revolution against the billionaire class I see. That red shirt isn't a coincidence.

@livinMicro 3 жыл бұрын

problem is that things are so twisted the revolution would be against those that want the country and for those that want a singular global rule by either EU or UN. The fights we have today are due to infiltration of our governments by those in cfr, imf, un, bis, etc...

@adamwright7638 3 жыл бұрын

Tomrade Scott

@LilithsOwn303 3 жыл бұрын

He's wearing a blue-grey hoody today! :)

@Olyvia.. 3 жыл бұрын

Mr. Steven Craig Smith Sr. Communism is in favour of abolishing borders right?

@Domihork 3 жыл бұрын

@@Olyvia.. Sure... That's why the Eastern block ruled by communists had the Iron Curtain...

@tompw3141 4 жыл бұрын

3:27 I love that a sign warning you there's a sheer drop is all people are deemed to need to be safe,

@btlxguitars7606 4 жыл бұрын

This is consistently one of the most interesting channels on KZfaq... Don't stop doing what you do Tom...

@Kyun9432 4 жыл бұрын

"the Frech Revolution was still living memory" Hehe, nice one

@jonathanbuzzard6648 4 жыл бұрын

In 1832 it certainly was inliving memory. Reading/listening comprehension failure then.

@globalhikingcr 4 жыл бұрын

“Dunny-on-the-World is a tuppenny- ha'penny place. Half an acre of sodden marshland in the Suffolk Fens with an empty town hall on it. Population: three rather mangy cows, a dachshund named `Colin', and a small hen in its late forties.”

@JohnSmith-pd1fz 4 жыл бұрын

++globalhikinger++ There are neither Wolds nor Fenland in the county of Suffolk despite what you may have heard.

@SeaSandLand 4 жыл бұрын

No people at all then... apart from Colin.

@robseybaby1 4 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-pd1fz I was going to agree until I remembered that Suffolk has several fens (lakenheath and Hopton jump immediately to mind) and whilst there is not specifically any swathes of land labelled as 'wolds' and Suffolk is hundreds of miles from the Cotswolds or the Wolds of North East England, it does have the town of Southwold.

@canbrit4621 2 жыл бұрын

omg i climbed that moat when I was 8 or 9. helped by my older brothers. damn near killed me. We snuck in after walking all the way from home on Fisherton Ave. I'm 52 now and when I google map that now, Im like omg what were we thinking. Thanks for the memories Tom. I miss Salisbury and the UK.

@lemster101 4 жыл бұрын

I'm always insanely impressed by Tom's ability to memorise such long and detailed talk.

@paddystrongjaw9995 3 жыл бұрын

How do you think theatre actors manage, lots of practice and dedication.

@Alaric323 4 жыл бұрын

The lessons learned here are still relevant today, especially in the US with the political crisis going on right now.

@jamestheotherone742 4 жыл бұрын

True. Government and concentrations of power are always slow to react and adapt to social and technological change. The longer it takes, the longer the tension builds up and the more "energy" is released when it does.

@danx64 3 жыл бұрын

"it is extremely difficult to convince people with power to give it up willingly" - Tom Scott, 2020, calling for revolution

@zugamifk 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Tom, thanks for the video! I'm Canadian and I don't know much about English history, this a really wonderful little tale. Thanks for sharing!

@joshspure7011 3 жыл бұрын

Im a huge fan Tom, the fact you could reference and provide insight into a place as close to me as Salisbury is amazing, keep up the truly splendid work :)

@abbiearcher4716 4 жыл бұрын

"It is extremely difficult to convince people with power to give it up willingly." Tom Scott calls for Revolution.

@cottontheeastercottontailr265 4 жыл бұрын

This guy and Half-Asleep Chris are the only 2 people i’m still on YT for Edit: yall might stay for diff people but these two are the ppl i stay for

@fr4781 4 жыл бұрын

Ditto

@slc679 4 жыл бұрын

Jayforeman?

@slc679 4 жыл бұрын

The tim traveller?

@cottontheeastercottontailr265 4 жыл бұрын

@husseingusslia2353 4 жыл бұрын

Which Chris?

@FianFreigeist 4 жыл бұрын

Can we we just appreciate that there are almost no wind noises when Tom speaks? This is amazing!

@gtheofanopoulos 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent and very significant closing point. Good job Tom.

@ChrisThorntonUK 4 жыл бұрын

Tom, this was a really smart way to examine contemporary issues through the lens of history. Props to you and Jess Jewell.

@velvetindigonight 2 жыл бұрын

Also 'we cannot understand the present unless we understand the past'..... our past........ and we rarely get that in the media or at school............................... which is why................................ Hey ho Enjoy!

@tomm5663 4 жыл бұрын

"It is extremely difficult to convince people with power to give it up." Tom Scott is *BASED?*

@jhfdhgvnbjm75 4 жыл бұрын

I think you missed the 'i' out there?

@romanjustroman7445 4 жыл бұрын

based and redshirted

@katethegoat7507 4 жыл бұрын

Based comrade

@drunkensailor5771 4 жыл бұрын

Who invented PCM it KZfaq

@locklanh 3 жыл бұрын

loving the subtle radical message ty comrade scott

@RicardoPetrazzi 4 жыл бұрын

That was truely fascinating, thanks for the mini-lesson! More are welcome!

@jasonbraun127 4 жыл бұрын

2:01 This guy looks like he's setting out to go on a big adventure.

@Mr.Not_Sure 2 жыл бұрын

OMG, good to know that Salisbury is known for something else than tall spires!

@damionmunro 3 жыл бұрын

Keep it up Tom you have great passion watched a few of your videos entraps the audience very exciting

@5527channel 4 жыл бұрын

hey tom,love your all videos. love from turkey. as a guy who loves filming and making simple videos but a one also wanna do better. you're inspiration for me. please never stop making videos. love your accent and acts while speaking in videos. (subtitles are supergood for me.)