The Ableton Push 3 Experience With Phemto In The Studio

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In today's stream, we're thrilled to have Phemto, also known as Jordan Guzak, join us for an in-depth exploration of the Push 3. Jordan is no stranger to this technology; he's been an avid user of the Push 2 for years and was among the first to get his hands on the latest Push 3. Notably, he has released lots of music over the years under a number of aliases, developed the Modbang riser line of products, shieldXl battery mod, and Max for Live devices specifically designed to enhance the Push 3 experience coming soon. You'll find links to his music and work below. Buckle up and prepare to delve into Push 3 tactics from the ground up!
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0:00 Intro
03:04 What Have We Got Here..
06:56 Sound Demo Of A Track Made In Stand Alone
23:32 Simpler vs Sampler
26:28 Parameter locking
33:44 Slicing on Simpler
43:57 LFO for push Elisabeth Homeland
51:26 Quantizing and swing
55:35 Capture button
1:01:01 Drum Rack
1:05:30 Midi Clip Editing
1:09:01 Found a bug
1:10:35 Custom Device Defaults
2:39:05 Jamming The Track We Made From Scratch
2:47:09 Field Recordings and Sidechaining Gates
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@logiebearsb 7 ай бұрын

Super video, thanks guys! Loving my Push3.

@andrewhaas5878 10 ай бұрын

Nice deep dive, this answered most of the concerns I've had about the P3!

@nooksimpletouch9606 9 ай бұрын

Great as always! Would like to see Maschine+ video in such format from you🙃

@RJ_Eckie 10 ай бұрын

I freakin love these duo streams! This one was super useful as I have a Push 3. And I’m not great at drums and sampling so this was great! I hope you get a lot of practice so this can turn into a Push 3 channel a little bit 😏😏

@fridmanator 8 ай бұрын

For pumping effect you can use auto pan and set it to mono, reverse saw on 1/4 notes and play with the shape.

@Ponchy 8 ай бұрын

great stream! Love all the Elektron comparisons. I'm definitely gonna be upgrading my Push 2 soon.

@cyberspacer 8 ай бұрын

"Unlimited synthesizers!" YES, we can't settle for less :) Thanks for an excellent walkthrough!

@AqeelAadam 9 ай бұрын

Ah man I missed this video! A very kind friend sent it over to me. Thanks for using and digging the samples, and y’all nailed the name pronunciation too! 😂

@EZBOT_ 9 ай бұрын

Nothing but love!

@wmextra 9 ай бұрын

I love Push 3 Thanks guys, Happy Friday! sometimes I feel like I betrayed Push when I sold Push 2, but When I saw that Push 3 was available on my email I immediately ordered stand-alone was the only option literally in 3 days it arrived.

@jamesaita 5 ай бұрын

This was great guys. Watched the whole thing start to finish. Would love for someone to post making an entire multi-song live set with Push 3 Standalone to see how it's done. You said a creator did that for a show you had recently. Would love to see that process.

@medenine4828 10 ай бұрын

I’ve been waiting patiently for this - awesome! We have such similar tastes in gear and music. What is the purpose of routing to the audio tracks for you - is it mostly for how you interact with the midi fighter? (I didn’t know you could map non-native controllers yet, I have launchpad and launch control xl connected).

@bloopbleepnothinghere 10 ай бұрын

So glad some people are seeing how amazing this device is, and understand the value. All those complaints of it being $2k are underestimating how versatile it is, and how many problems this thing solves. I am sure I will get the itch for some new equipment at some point, but man it's going to be difficult to justify anything else. I can get close enough to any sound I can dream up. Yeah the FM implementation isn't quite as sweet as a Digitone, but I'd give that up for having an infinite sound pallet in one box with no cables, and a battery. What's more, is if anyone had the skill (hello Ess @Fors) Digitone style racks and instruments are all possible.

@notaspectator 8 ай бұрын

love it

@el_dani 8 ай бұрын

This is probably the device of the decade. Maybe you could get us a update of the important topics, now 6 months after release: inclusion of more options for standalone operation (follow actions, Midi mapping, other small (?) leftovers) and then the topic of syncronisation with external hardware gear

@Sinnersainthuman 10 ай бұрын

Hi Jordan and Matthew! Coffee is brewing and I just hit play 💚

@matthewpiecora7382 10 ай бұрын

It's a long one!

@Sinnersainthuman 10 ай бұрын

@@matthewpiecora7382 let’s go!!

@phemtosound 10 ай бұрын

Ahoy! Hope you enjoy the ride :)

@Sinnersainthuman 10 ай бұрын

@@phemtosound super good. now to save up for a push 3 ? 😅

@MrJohnHoppa 7 ай бұрын

Not only Substracting but also adding slices in simpler or notes in Clip view by pressing some button is really necessary for it to be somehow functional.

10 ай бұрын

great ! comment @1h38min : you can go soustracive by hitting del + pad you want to delete events ( becareful if you hit it twice you remove the simpler...)

@phemtosound 10 ай бұрын

oh rad! Thanks for the tip!

@Rollur1234 10 ай бұрын

SMOOOOOOTH!!

@LunchBandit 10 ай бұрын

I bought the controller version for $1000 and a used macbook air M1 for $700 so I saved $300 from the $2000 stand alone version and it's more powerful, almost as portable, and you get a decent size screen with the ability to watch P----hub during your live sets.

@HelicopterRidesForCommunists 10 ай бұрын

Thats whats up. I suggested for someone to get one of those ROG Ally or Steam Decks with the P3.

@pietruh13pl 10 ай бұрын

Rog ally and push 3 sounds like great idea

@DG-ss1gc 8 ай бұрын

Pick up a 15inc “portable touchscreen usb c monitor “ use it with the zoom accessibly function and a Magic Trackpad . It’s a great setup.

@nytcrawlr 8 ай бұрын

Push 3 and Legion Go - pop the controllers off the side of the Go and you have an 8.8 inch tablet running Ableton Live.

@LunchBandit 8 ай бұрын

@@nytcrawlr Does the touch screen work with ableton? Touch screen didn't work when I attempted to do something similar with an iPad as a second screen.

@corneliousism 7 ай бұрын

Plus one for adding and external screen for standalone, I’m sure this could be done with a basic app on iOS or android, opening up complete utilisation suite with even more intuitive touch gestures. Call it ‘Pull’ for push standalone!

@Kaje05 7 ай бұрын

Haha, pretty much sounds like you want controller mode? 😂

@MrJohnHoppa 7 ай бұрын

Also micro timing the steps with the arrow buttons directly would be great 👍🏼 😊

@HelicopterRidesForCommunists 10 ай бұрын

Man he sounds like me - 10 years of Reason then Push 2 to Live to hardware gear and Elektron. Ive been watching this channel since around February of this year and even back then I was praising the Push 2/ Live hybrid setup with Elektron devices. So as Ive said before its nice to see someone as elite as EZ confirming it.

@phemtosound 10 ай бұрын

A fellow Reasoner! An individual of culture I see 🙂❤

@HelicopterRidesForCommunists 10 ай бұрын

@@phemtosound Since I got a cracked version of Reason 3! Back when they were adamant that they would never implement VSTs - and now look at Reason it basically IS a VST.

@phemtosound 10 ай бұрын

@@HelicopterRidesForCommunists ngl, I use it as a vst in Ableton ALL THE TIME. It's the best of both worlds!

@HelicopterRidesForCommunists 10 ай бұрын

@@phemtosound I still prefer the arrangement view in Reason over Live. Theres pros/cons, and one of the biggest pros for Reason imo is the built in implementation of pitch and drift correction of audio. Sure you can go and use Melodymne which is more powerful, but Reason's is built right into the audio editor and is much more efficient and easy to use while still providing solid results.

@HelicopterRidesForCommunists 10 ай бұрын

@@phemtosoundCame back to finish watching this stream and got to the part where you said you were a software developer. One more thing we have in common! Im graduating with my Computer Engineering degree soon. My hope is that between my ability to code and my knowledge of music production/ performance that I’ll be able to nab up a job in the industry. I live near the Audio Technica HQ, so they are number 1 on the list at the moment.

@Geekraver 8 ай бұрын

I'll wait for the Force 2. But I'd love to see a video of adding a battery to the Digitakt.

@Rollur1234 10 ай бұрын

I am working on a fun probability beat. Very intuitive!! Its like I hqve never made a beat before.

@tawfeeqm 3 ай бұрын

Would love to see you do more push3 tutorials pretty please

@billpayer3745 3 ай бұрын

Feels very much like I need to design a t-shirt with "I am the LFO" on it.

@glivingston2278 10 ай бұрын

Great tutorial over all. Really loving that they fixed the sample selection issue with the drum rack. @ 1:09:06 you guys say that you found a bug but I noted that you had an automation dot on the transpose in the simpler. When you changed the slot pitch it did transpose the sample but that transpose automation date was still there. I coudl be wrong. I hope I am because automating the slot pitch would be great. Curious if you concur. Thanks for the great content.

@phemtosound 10 ай бұрын

There are two transpose params, we had automated one on simpler but when we p locked the one on the drum rack slot, it didn't show the same indicator

@calderwood9641 8 ай бұрын

Time for a part 2 stream with Jordo

@EZBOT_ 8 ай бұрын

haha, this will definitely happen

@raytbrown2 9 ай бұрын

Wow. 25min in and I know it's not for me; as I still don't know what it does. Thank you!

@KevKlopper 9 ай бұрын

Yeah same, I really want to want it. But it's just an extension (or replacement) of the computer that makes the workflow (mostly) more clunky imo

@sinewaymusic 8 ай бұрын

Very informative video! One thing you said you'd cover but didn't quite cover in the end: can this be used for producing a full track with preprogrammed automation for things like the intro, break, buildup, drop etc? I understand the concept of clips and it seems the Push is meant for live performances, but could you make copies of clips and eg create "scenes" where one longer scene of say 16 bars is the intro, and you then add automation over that full length to eg open up a filter? And then basically stack a bunch of scenes on the clip layout so you can play back a finished song by progressing scenes one by one? I'm more of a producer kind of guy, I don't stand and perform in front of an audience or anything, so to me it's about being able to basically get a much more flexible and better sounding MPC - not a device to perform on live but to make full songs on. Thanks!

@WesWookBeats 9 ай бұрын

7:30 so smooth

10 ай бұрын

comment about ratchets : best way to make ractchets is live, with repeat fct, with loop selector you can focus on the part of the loop where you want to add some. just record , listen, undo if necessary. 1 more tip : I Highly recommend for beat construction to use the loop selector and repeat fct, start with 1/4 for kick and snare, so you don't even need the metronome ( I hate its sound, never use it) , move to 1/8 for more rythm and then higher rates for highhats and ratchets , fill some bars with various loops, then play with the loops you made to make a performance, add some non recorded events for variation if you wish. Now lets make the magic happens : go to nex clip, hit capture... and here you go, you can have a very long performance recorded (64 bars I think) as a clip. you can even have mute and automations recorded. Best thing with that : you don't even need to know how to fingerdrum to end with a really "human" performance ( you can use recorded groove from you favourite drummer to make it sound more human)

@emilianoibarra3537 3 ай бұрын

on session view can you have a track loaded with an instrument/device/synth and have the clips below being the same instrument/device/synth but with different parameters? so it makes a different sound, and sequence the midi notes with the oxi one

@Tapepusher 10 ай бұрын

1:47:24 with monitoring set to In/Auto the latency is recorded as well, it records what you hear, latency included. “Off” is most accurate with no latency (set up Delay Error Compensation to make it work), you just monitor directly with an interface. Ableton’s help page is written a bit oddly on it. Anyway, cool stream, my impression of the standalone is that its not yet standalone yet lol, still missing essential features and I’d say it’s seriously challenging for Ableton to include them all.

@noahsiekmann4275 10 ай бұрын

Absolutely correct about monitor in/auto. Thanks for mentioning this.

@phemtosound 10 ай бұрын

Double checked when in standalone mode and yup, you are totally correct about monitoring modes. Forgot I had "Delay Compensation" and "Reduced Latency when Monitoring" turned on, thank you for the clarification!

@Tapepusher 10 ай бұрын

ok, cool! You've some unreal beats on your channel. I particularly like this modular jam, if ppl are looking for a glitch beat to chill to: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ia1_i6SazODPfZs.htmlsi=03Lakl8Hfx9mCDDM@@phemtosound

@EZBOT_ 10 ай бұрын

That camera on Jordan's face in the intro is a thing of beauty. Don't forget to subscribe and join the discord! discord.gg/KUSBH9h Lessons and contact: ezbot.live Support this channel by joining the Patreon : www.patreon.com/ezbot

@IgnacioChavez 10 ай бұрын

Can't believe I watched the whole thing :D

@EZBOT_ 10 ай бұрын

You get a gold star! ⭐️ thanks for watching 😍

@Nick-kb6jd 8 ай бұрын

Hey, can I ask, Does the non-standalone have the adat functionality? Could you use the stadalone with overbridge?

@ryanhursh6322 9 ай бұрын

Great video! Wow… lots of info. Apologies if this was covered somewhere and I missed it. I come from a DAWless, Elektron background and just got Ableton… and sort of waiting for a Push 3 to really dig in because I’m really not into the computer screen and mouse. I’m thinking of a Push 3 in combination with a Novation Launchkey 3, which is also supposed to be set up for Ableton. Would that make sense or is that just overkill and duplicating the controls? Would it be better to connect the Launchkey to the Push 3 or just go straight to the computer?

@wakinglife7065 7 ай бұрын

I haven’t tried it yet but I use it Novation launch/ key mkiii for Ableton and MPC.. it doesn’t double up controls but it’s useful for mixing and adding keys to pads. But I think the Akai Mini Plus would be better with its joystick and fully assignable cc knobs etc. it has its own sequencer as well and is fully class compliant with 5 din midi in and out. The push 3 has the 1/8? Inch version so you need an adapter like boss. But I could be totally wrong. I’m getting a push 3 soon aswell as mini plus so I’ll do some experimenting and get back to you

@designerfuzzi 10 ай бұрын

45:00 another LFO test its aliasing solution, does it actually reach max and min in every spin or does it interpolate and therefore antialias the value? :)

@rolobotoman 6 ай бұрын

If you could plug a keyboard a mouse and a screen, it would be dope. Joking, not joking 🤷‍♀ Something like push not stand alone and a small footprint pc/hybrid laptop? Great down to earth video, there's so much noise out there.

@podcastharry 2 ай бұрын

Hey Matthew, I'm curious after watching a bunch of your Digi 2 videos - I get that you're an Elektron guy (me too), but why has Push 3 not made it's way into your workflow in a meaningful way? Just seems so powerful in comparison to the grooveboxes (at least at a high level; I've not touched one yet!).

@SergeyCoder 5 ай бұрын

Cool. Thank you. I’d better stay with digitakt & syntakt 😄

@Alexandermhinton 10 ай бұрын

alright alright alright

@EZBOT_ 10 ай бұрын

alright alright alright alright

@FrankvonWelt 10 ай бұрын

Hey @EZBOT, thanks for this great video. You guys mentioned the (missing) midi clock input feature. Are you using a beta version? My latest stand alone push still only works as slave in Ableton link mode? Greetings from Germany. Frank

@EZBOT_ 10 ай бұрын

We mentioned that is now has it :)

@phemtosound 10 ай бұрын

On the latest beta, make sure in your midi settings under the Input section that Ableton Push 3 External Port is set to Track and Sync. Midi clock in should work after that! If link is on, midi clock in might not work, I haven't tested what takes priority in that scenario

@JamesBermingham 9 ай бұрын

Do you think an Arrangement Mode will ever be available on Push or via an App something like Note? Something like the way Elektron rolled it out on their boxes. ?? 🤞

@corneliousism 7 ай бұрын

I hope they do, having second screen to move things about would be great, call it ‘Pull’ it would make it absolutely complete and open up the full functionality of the devices as well as easier editing and arranging.

@Kaje05 7 ай бұрын

Yes, this already available! Just connect your computer and you get full arranger mode in Ableton.

@JamesBermingham 9 ай бұрын

10:51 In stand alone? Er how? Please explain 🙏 I know Shift+ Record in controller mode records to the arranger. But in stand alone it doesn’t. What’s the button press procedure on P3 stand alone for this?

@illegalgiant_ 10 ай бұрын

feel like the 'woops im in the wrong scale' at 2:30:00~ sums up the experience pretty well. when everything is jiving and recording loops, all is well. have to change a couple notes you already played? its gonna be rough. on a laptop it takes mere seconds. on push3 its just not fluid yet.

@bloopbleepnothinghere 10 ай бұрын

You can actually change the note like he was trying to do. You have to be in the clip view, as they were, and then either hit the "edit" button, or click the jog wheel. In this screen you can now use the jog wheel to select individual notes (one or many) and then you can edit many of their attributes, including the note value. Not as quick as the laptop but it's as easy as an Elektron box.

@illegalgiant_ 10 ай бұрын

@@bloopbleepnothinghere We can agree to disagree. I tried to love this thing but nothing ever felt fluid like an elektron machine

@bloopbleepnothinghere 10 ай бұрын

@@illegalgiant_ I wasn't at all trying to convince you that the Push is for you. I was simply trying to communicate that note changes are possible and pretty easy.

@SamuMusical-Aprendatocar 7 ай бұрын

To expensive! I stay with my Akai Force

@TheMattyNation 8 ай бұрын

So we have a berserk fan here

@hiparik1 5 ай бұрын

And what about crossfader ? How to switch between tracks ?

@eento06 5 ай бұрын

That's wrong, channel in In mode will bring latency & channel in Off mode will ensure no lantency is added during the recording, but the sound will not be monitored. When In mode, the internal is delaying the full project transport based on the biggest estimated channel's lantency. Thisi mechanism is called PDC, and this is the biggest nightmare of Ableton because it's not accurate (unfortunately).

@iqnill 9 ай бұрын

Same genes plus, seemingly, 3 million years of evolution :)

@mdeerocks6792 10 ай бұрын

You don't need a DC coupled ADAT device to control Eurorack from Push 3. Push 3 has CV outputs in the back. RTM :)

@EZBOT_ 10 ай бұрын

but not enough of em! :)

@phemtosound 10 ай бұрын

Expression pedal jacks work but the OPTX giving us 8 ins and 8 outs is a far better experience imo!

@mdeerocks6792 10 ай бұрын

@@EZBOT_ True

@Slubberdegullion14 10 ай бұрын

Was the “true true” a Tim Robinson quote?

@EZBOT_ 10 ай бұрын

It’s a nude egg that I won!

@ryanhursh6322 10 ай бұрын

No snap to zero crossing in Simpler?? Seems like a no brainer.

@EZBOT_ 10 ай бұрын

Hoping that gets addressed!

@AcidTechnoMan5000 7 ай бұрын

Grugg Rugg

@szymonsochacki3353 8 ай бұрын

Probably noone will answer, but what are the drum samples used here? They are sick :D

@EZBOT_ 8 ай бұрын

I think they are stock drums from Ableton Suite

@bigjayrillah3508 4 ай бұрын

bitwig will chase the notes if you set it up to

@HelicopterRidesForCommunists 10 ай бұрын

That moment when you test to see if you can hold multiple notes and p lock them - absolutely adorable lmfao

@tomgleason5546 6 ай бұрын

If the standalone is a computer, why no ability to hook up a monitor and keyboard?

@espacemaxim 27 күн бұрын

Nao?

@practicewhatyouteach 10 ай бұрын

I AM THE LFO 😂

@EZBOT_ 10 ай бұрын

I AM!

@RobotSnake 10 ай бұрын

The first standalone device with infinite LFOs.

@oguzisk9204 6 ай бұрын

Phemto is such a fem

@user-xj6xf5bf3j 8 ай бұрын

i still dont really get why you would get one! doesnt translate well for performance, a nerfed DAW standalone. Less mouse clicks required for same workflows.

@donnydarko7624 8 ай бұрын

The price difference between the one without and the one with the CPU and RAM in it is pretty outrageous considering they can't give 11th gen Intel processors away, and it's an i3. Thenwhen you consider how cheap ram is currently as well. Intel sells the nuc that it's in the processing unit for the push for $200. Also go listen to some reaktor ensembles on maschine+ standalone and tell me they don't sound almoat analog

@TK-hz4ss 6 ай бұрын

I still think the Force is better

@Mr.Thermistor7228 25 күн бұрын

this was so hard to follow, guy explaining everything just went into super specific tasks not really the general idea

@candyflip6345 10 ай бұрын

Learn how to play this instrument before you start complaining about missing features and things you wish. This instrument is made for artist, no matter what you do or how you play this instrument it will always sound like a "push" or have that "push" sound. Its not about what it cant do, its about what YOU can do.

@EZBOT_ 10 ай бұрын

Don’t think anyone’s complaining here, we love the push 3.

@phemtosound 10 ай бұрын

Nothing but love for the push, it's been my main writing tool for almost 5 years now!

@ethermod307 10 ай бұрын

@@EZBOT_ nah it's a box in a box ;)

@mdeerocks6792 10 ай бұрын

I can make it sound like any hardware synth I own just by connecting the synth via MIDI. Push 3 is a controller, not an instrument.

@HelicopterRidesForCommunists 10 ай бұрын

@@mdeerocks6792Its definitely both and more. Not sure how you could possibly say its not an instrument when it has one of the best and most expressive MPE functionality on the market.

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