The conversation discusses the ongoing war in Ukraine and the devastating impact it is having on the Ukrainian people. It highlights the cruelty of the war, with Ukrainians being forced to fight a war they don't want to fight and experiencing high casualties. The lack of concern and reporting on the situation is also mentioned. The conversation explores the historical precedents and the lack of trust in negotiations. The potential outcomes of the conflict are discussed, including the possibility of a buffer zone or a complete collapse of Ukraine. The conversation briefly touches on the situation in Israel and Lebanon.