It's honestly kind of amazing how the final boss is *completely* overshadowed by the boss that came before it

Lore-wise, it can be inferred that Dark Nebula is strongest when controlling a host. And it's just so weak without controlling someone that its priority will be to flee to space. Similar to how other Dark Matter behaves but weaker. This could be how Meta Knight or Dedede were able to capture it in the chest the first time while acknowledging how much of a threat it truly is. As a fight it is VERY underwhelming... I'm just trying to cope here-

And when people say “Kirby kills God for cake”, this is the *God* that people prop up so much.

It'll always be funny how Dark Nebula is called the "ruler of the underworld". And then we proceed to get no elaboration on that, and it goes down so easy. I struggled more on the dang fire owl thing than him lol. And they could at least retroactively do something interesting with it lore wise, but no. Outside the Star Allies ref, feels like even HAL wants to forget this boss was a thing 🤣.

I think Dark Nebula wouldn't be nearly as hated if its phases were reversed. Fighting its normal form first and then fighting it while possessing Daroach would feel much more cathartic, especially since he was the main antagonist for most of the game

Be thankful that Dark Nebula also doesn't camp in background for literal minutes where it fires out extremely drawn out and predictable attacks where can't touch it at all Unlike a certain frog

If you listen closely, you can indeed feel how RPGMonger is disappointed about this final battle XD He often sounds a lot happier than this

Squeak Squad really needs a remake, the game had a lot of interesting ideas that could've been better utilized if properly fleshed out. Plus I can't be the only one who needs a little more lore to explain what the "ruler of the underworld" is doing locked up inside the same type of treasure chest that was used to house a slice of cake.

Honestly Hyness is what if Dark Nebula was good. He uses each Element really well that are hard to dodge.

Aside from the disappointing final boss, my only other complaint about Squeak Squad is that the Ghost power unlocks waaaay too late. I also wouldn't have minded if the ability room unlocked sooner, but you had to gradually unlock powers to fill the room by collecting treasures. Maybe when you find the scroll that fully unlocks a form's abilities, you unlock it for the ability room?

The fact that Kirby final bosses are always the greatest moment of the games they are in and are in general always excellent, makes the existence of this video essay just absolutely hilarious lmao Dark Crafter is pretty close to dark Nebula gameplay wise I have to say tho

Thank god we live in the golden age of Kirb final bosses ever Maglor redefined what makes them amazing.

Honestly, to me it feels like Daroach was supposed to be the final boss, but either by last minute HAL requirements or a crunched time schedule, they had to just throw Nebula's boss fight in at the last minute, reusing a few animation (Like I'm pretty sure for the Ice ability they just straight ripped it from Kracko), and buffed the Triple Star to hilarious levels to try and make the fight go quickly so nobody notices before shipping.

If beating bosses without copy ability is no longer a fun challenge, you can tell that there's something wrong with the boss design.

I loved it when Daroach said "its Nebula-ing time" and Nebulad all over the place.

Squeak Squad deserves a remake more than any other mainline Kirby game istg

This truly was a squeak squad, or as i like to call it, a mouse attack

One of the most unfortunate things about dark nebula, in my opinion, is the fact that it ruined a good portion of people's impressions of Squeak Squad. A finale is supposed to be a memorable climax that will cement your positive memories of the game, so Dark Nebula being such a disappointing final boss coming after the difficult yet fun Dark Daroach really hurts, especially when compared to the otherwise stellar final boss roster. -Dark Crafter does not exist Claycia was the real final boss- Squeak Squad is a really solid Kirby game with many neat ideas (especially the elemental gimmicks), and some cool references to other Kirby games (and even the anime!), so seeing many trash on it due to Dark Nebula is really unfortunate. As you said in the video - "It's a real shame".

I like to think the fight is so easy because kirby knows if he defeats dark nebula, he will get his cake, so he completely atomizes him.

That final boss makes me squeak, almost like a squad

I definitely like this style of shorter-form content, let's you cover fun little short topics like this one.

Something something Kirby unleashed his full power over a piece of cake.

I just noticed most movement patterns do combo with their element: -Fire moves erratically in the air because the flames force you to fly. -Thunder moves around the screen because the spark cage makes you stay around the center (screen corners apart). -And you mentioned ice already. This fight could be cool if Dark Nebula did something like: Elemental attack (faster and flames/sparks last longer) -> Movement -> Small star attack -> Switch element and repeat. Squeak Squad was my first Kirby game, Daroach is amazing but Dark Nebula really is more forgettable than the sequence leading up to his battle.

Still find it funny that they didn’t even remix Dark Nebula’s theme in Star Allies, with Daroach’s Morpho theme being the Squeak Squad theme instead.

Even if Squeak Squad wasn't the best game in the series, I still love it for the concepts it experimented with. Also, the Squeak Squad themselves are pretty cool. Daroach forever!

If you're going to do more videos on boss analysises, you probably should do one on Pyribbit and how... F***ing ABYSMAL That fight is

Kirby squeak squad is what introduced me to the Kirby series. As a kid, the final area and its bosses were extremely hard for me. Looking back on it- yeah I can see where they could have improved or changed a few things but I think it was fine as is. If they plan to re-release it in the future I hope they give it a makeover and not just the final fight.

It seems like in terms of best final bosses, everyone argues about, but for worst everyone seems to be in unison

as a kid I lost to dark nebula a lot, I grinded to 99 lives and then my sibling told me to just use tornado and sure enough I won first try. and then it didn't save my lives....

I'm reminded by the old PeaTea64 'Kirby's Squeak Squad in a Shellnut' _"I AM THE EVIL DARK NEBULA"_ _"But you're the easiest boss in the game"_ _"...oh."_

Him: The worst Kirby boss Meteorz: Let’s make a clickbait opposite.

I feel like the only really good thing to come out of Dark Nebula is just the memes. Whether it be the connections to Dark Matter/Zero established in a Japanese art book(and the fact that they’re called Dark Zero in Japanese) getting turned into things like “Dark Nebula is that guy nobody really likes and Zero regrets ever creating them” or “Dark Nebula is the prototype Miracle Matter but Zero just forgot about their existence and now they have a whole complex about it”. Also, good ol’ “Bill Cipher if he was incredibly weak but had the exact same personality and ambitions”. Alternatively, Dark Nebula is actually extremely powerful in-universe it’s just that Kirby was so fed up with all of the bullshit getting between him and his cake that he finally snapped and made them look weak by comparison. I bet the Triple Star wasn’t even made to defeat them specifically in the same way you have the Star Rod and Nightmare, Love-Love Stick and Zero, Rainbow Sword and Dark Matter, etc. I bet it’s the same sort of deal Galaxia has of being an incredibly powerful legendary weapon but not made to combat a particular threat. Kirby using the Triple Star against Dark Nebula is just hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby.

My first game of kirby was squeak squad, it's very easy honestly, but made me love kirby, mostly by art

I actually really like dark nebula narratively. Having a Dark Matter boss that could have single-handedly endangered popstar, that previously would have required a specific type of special weapon to defeat, running from Kirby and forcing us to chase it down, not requiring Kirby to use any ability if not desired- I like the idea that Kirby has simply grown that much more powerful than in the Dark Matter trilogy. Still sucks mechanically though, especially as the final boss. If it were me, I would have made that chase sequence into the final boss fight itself, kinda like some sonic bosses.

I dig this new video type! Would be cool to see some other stinkers ripped apart, but maybe a spotlight on some underappreciated boss fight gems would also make for a good time.

Dark Nebula being an old man driving public transport is hilarious

They're gonna bring this thing back someday and it'll either be the most powerful extra boss yet or a joke once more.

I would love to see you do a video on Fecto Elfilis, the final boss in Kirby and the Forgotten Land

With the rod, it feels too weak, without the rod, it's just tedious

I'm just glad to see your content again man. haven't seen you in a while

If they ever do another side game like Kirby Clash or Fighters, I really hope they do what they did in Clash/Super Clash and bring back and overhaul Dark Nebula. The three element gimmick has a lot of potential. Potential that has sadly never been realized.

Now on the complete end of the spectrum, we have sectonia

The case of Dark Nebula is even worse considering what it is supposed to be, Dark Zero, 03, something that many fans expected to be something big and memorable, to be fair this is from the Japanese version, but imagine if he had that name in the western version, it's almost certain that the legacy he would leave behind would be even worse. But yes, the fight has a lot of problems and it is sad to see that many of them had simple solutions that were not considered, although what gives me hope is that he is not forgotten by Hal, considering that he even has a mask in RTDLDX, who knows, hopefully it may be that he receives the same treatment that Dark Meta knight, Dark matter or Nightmare received, but only time will tell.

I know its a REALLY forgettable final boss when I haven't thought about it in years.....

I feel like you explained why Dark Nebula is so flawed. It's not really because he's easy but because he's easy and boring. Outside of extra modes, I wouldn't really call any Kirby final boss hard but what they lack in difficulty they make up for in spektical and presentation. I'd use a modern Kirby boss as an example but for the sake of fairness we can look at Dark Mind. Yeah I didn't have a major issue with that fight, but stuff like the attacks it had along with the cool arena make still make it intense and engaging. With Dark Nebula, the only intense thing is the music but that more makes me think "you don't really deserve this do you".

Sometimes I think about the fact Dark Nebula's music wasn't rearranged in Kirby Star Allies. All the dream friends got new arrangements of their game's final boss theme, except for Daroach who got one of his own theme instead.

Maybe you could talk about some of the extra bosses in Team Kirby Clash and the spins they put on existing bosses in terms of patterns and dynamic with the class mechanics. King D-Mind could get a video all its own.

I thought you were going to talk about some obscure game we never heard of that just happened to be called Dark Nebula, so that thumbnail and title hit me like an 18-wheeler.

Kirby Squeak Squad was my first Kirby game and i still love it for the fun treasure hunting in it. The treasure chests gave all levels a reward at the end that makes the game really rewarding. I have to admit the final boss was even as a kid the low point of the game for all the reasons you just said.

Although the video is about Dark Nebula, can we give the original Dark Matter fight in KDL2 a honorable mention because its the inverse of Dark Nebula? While the Dark Nebula fight is very easy and fast, the Dark Matter one has the opposite problem where it usually tends to drag on for way too long and also the sword doesn't work so well in defeating it because the only way to chip away large chunks of health is via using the orbiters or shadow balls against it.

Imagine if Dark Nebula comes back as, like, a miniboss or something in a later game.

Would love to see this type of video on other bosses, a lot of franchises drop the ball right at the end

The only things I remember about the Dark Nebula fight is that you can hold the B button to make the star be active longer, you can use the d-pad to control the star and that it's annoying to aim upwards because you'll often float involuntary. All of the details of the boss fight are new to me. I think I struggled more chasing the boss than the boss itself. It'd be nice if they implemented more mini levels before final bosses.

Aside from gameplay, I think another factor to Dark Nebula's underwhelming presentation is it's character design. It's actually by no means a poor design. Despite only be a literal star its colour schene and the particle effects are actually pretty solid. The problem is I don't think its worthy of being a final boss design in a Kirby game. Especially when you have an iconic one like Daroach prior. Some suggestions is that they can increased its size in a phase 2 or certain sections and add some more design features appear during the elemental attacks rather than "I'm blue now, dab ba de da ba die". Additionally, for a supposed "god of the underworld" not much about DN's design conveys that. Necrodeus and Morpho Knight are definitely better examples of themes of the afterlife, with the motif and symbolism of the skull and butterfly respectively being very apparent.

honestly i want to see a Kirby game taking place in the Underworld. Maybe a prequel game with Meta Knight or Dedede as the main character showing how Nebula was sealed in Dedede's chest, or a sequel game with Kirby as the main character (like always) man an Underworld game has so much potential, it could have Morpho Knight as a major antagonist since his Japanese description says he came from the Underworld, heck maybe even previously defeated villains like Nightmare or Sectonia showing up since y'know it's the Kirby version of hell!. It could also retroactively canonize the translation error since the Japanese version doesn't mention the Underworld, much like Super Star Ultra's "a Nova's" in Marx Soul's description

If we ever get a Sqeak Squad remake, I hope that Dark Nebula gets more attack patterns and a bit more speedy pattern.

Opening: “It was late one night in early 2007…” Me, born in Mid 2006: A Pro Gamer, before I could even speak.

It’s been a year since your last Kirby video. We need more! What ever happened to those Triple Deluxe and Star Allies reviews?

This has been a great video! For bosses, I truly recommend Cursed Leorina from Klonoa 2: Lunatea’s Veil!

Dark nebula is the type of boss non-Kirby fans think final Kirby bosses are like, when in reality they usually take the form of biblically accurate angels.

Waddle Doo is an iconic round creature and distant relative of Waddle Dee, sharing many of that creature's characteristics, save for the single large eye in place of a face and the ability to fire beams from it. He is most commonly encountered in the Kirby series as an enemy, but he can be recruited as a helper in appropriate games and in some instances is playable aside from that. Waddle Doo attacks primarily by firing his aforementioned eye beam, but will otherwise harm Kirby by collision or by trying to body-slam him, as seen in Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards. Swallowing Waddle Doo will typically yield Kirby the Beam ability, and if holding a parasol, he will yield Kirby the Parasol ability. Waddle Doo bears a very similar physique to Waddle Dee (and Kirby by extension), and can often be found in the same situations as his more down-to-earth cousins. If not distinguished by his eye, Waddle Doo also differs in his color scheme, bearing a more orange-red (described in Kirby's Dream Buffet as "ketchup") body hue with orange-yellow feet, as well as two strands of hair on his head. Given that Waddle Doo's face consists only of a single giant eye, he can only meaningfully communicate his emotions using eye-based expressions such as tears, dilation of his pupil, and movements of his eyelid. Despite this, Waddle Doo is capable of speaking, as evidenced in Kirby Battle Royale and Kirby: Right Back at Ya!. Waddle Doo is often associated with the reoccurring Boss Kracko, who is able to conjure them in most of his appearances and also has a giant singular eye which can fire beams. Another form of Waddle Doo was created when Dark Matter possessed the Waddle Dee in Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards. Waddle Doo also has a much larger Mid-Boss cousin known as King Doo who appears in Kirby's Return to Dream Land and Kirby: Planet Robobot, along with a few other titles.

I liked this one (video), I don't have any suggestions (yet), but I liked this video. have a good one Monger

Squeak squad is my first ever Kirby game and I thought all Kirby game is as easy as that one.

Hi The Rpg Monger I love this and I hope you have a good day and you are awesome

I liked this Kirby video a lot.. I'd like more Kirby please.

I definitely like this new video format and a boss I would recommend would be the genius difficulty ramp of shogun king from yo Kai watch blasters or gargaros and the other two oni in you Kai watch 1

I really want Dark Nebula to return. Every other mainline Kirby final boss gets their time to shine. He needs his true final boss battle.

I like that the suggestion for how to make Dark Nebula a better boss is basically “make it move and attack quicker and also give it a slightly simpler version of Miracle Matter’s gimmick”. Don’t get me wrong, I like the Miracle Matter fight and its mechanic of “it stops being weak to certain ability elements after you’ve hit it with those ability elements enough times”, it’s a good boss to draw from. And it probably would’ve helped set the “insane lore” precedent that only began truly rearing its head with _Return to Dream Land._ But resorting to “make it a simpler version of a boss that already exists and has much cooler fight music” really just goes to show how much of a failure Dark Nebula is 😆

the cutscene casually telling you that you just killed the _ruler of the underworld_ was more memorable than Dark Nebula's entire fight

Dark Nebula is the Florida man of Kirby final bosses.

You have to remember that dark nebula was dormant for so long in the chest that it wasn’t as powerful as it would’ve been, I really like to think that dark Daroach was the true final boss of the game and the fight against dark nebula is just him running away and soon realizing he can’t escape so he fought anyway and probably knew he was going to lose but tried to fight in his weaker state

ok so i recently rewatched your 1st kirby lore video and realised how morpho knight is realted to the kirby afterlife as butterflies are related to death in japan i think so thats why.

Kirby Squeak Squad: The Sophmore Slump of Kirby Games

Great little bite-sized vid! Perfect for an accompanying snack

Nightmare from "kirby right back at ya" and dark nebula are brothers confirmed (watch ep 100 so you can get it)

Analysing each major Kirby boss would make for a great series honestly

That car crash part killed me

This is how I feel about rom the vacuous spider It’s just that He’s the entire antithesis of the game It’s like Go forward Wait nevermind run back wait nope you can’t stand literally anywhere Because that’s the entirety of the fight

Did you show a clip of Germany while saying "you know the bus will come eventually?" That is peak irony.

I guess it sort of makes sense that he’d be stronger with a vessel than without one

Everyone (including The Rpg Monger): Dark Nebula is the worst boss in the Kirby series Dark Meteorz: hold my beer

"The absolute worst kirby-" *EXCUSE ME?* "-Final boss" Oh ok

making this videos pacing slow and the points repetitive was a great omage to dark nebula!

Sorry to hear you had jaw surgery. Ngl I thought you sounded like George Carlin narrating old thomas episodes, and I mean that in the best way possible

The Patreon logo looks like Dark Nebula's eye.

Maybe they did this in porpuse, the dark nebula may be invincible with a shell, but without it, its not mora than a fly

Dark nebula is so pathetic because it doesn’t try to fight Kirby. After beating dark daroach and nebula loses its host, it knows it can’t face Kirby head on, so it runs. It only fights with what it has when it’s backed into a corner. Gameplay wise it still sucks though.

Haven't watched your videos in a while. Your Voice sounds deeper. Anyway, a nice video as always

Also every ganondorf fight. In Ocarina of time the buildup is amazing and then you actually fight him and it’s famously just energy tennis. Windwaker probably has the best fight out of them but it’s just Ganondorf swinging is sword slowly. It’s more cinematic and doesn’t even try to be difficult. In Twilight princess there are three stages to the fight: first, energy tennis(again), then chase Ganondorf on horseback as he runs away (completely ruins any intimidating aura remaining after energy tennis, then it’s a sword fight where Ganondorf will approach you EXTREMELY slowly and then you just mash A. Then Ganondorf let’s out a roar with very bad voice acting again ruining the vibe and he dies just like that. This was the guy who was literally banished earlier because they couldn’t kill him because he was so powerful. What a letdown.

DS Era Kirby just kinda existed

Kirby Squeak Squad was one of the games of all time

i remember when i was like 7 when i beat him because i was so young i sucked at the game i remember it being one of the hardest fights in the game idk how i thought it was replaying the game later the fight was a joke it might just have been the theme being ominous music scaring the crap out of me replaying the game and hearing that music before the boss is still kinda scary

"Ruler of the underworld" 🤣

Dark Nebula also just looks really stupid, he's just a jpg of a star with elemental gifs inside it, it looks really silly just sliding along the screen with 0 animation outside of its aura the elemental effects and its eye.

Request: if Mario had some crazy and awesome lore what would it be?

In light of the Return to Dreamland Remaster, I hope they do the same to this one day. Idk if it would be 3D like Forgotten Land or stick to its Original 2D fashion, but if there’s one thing I know from how they redid Magolor Soul, they’d definitely make Dark Nebula an absolute beast and add some much needed lore for it Holding out that hood since this was my first ever Kirby game and it’s special to me

kaizo kirby rom hacks would be so neat

This was a neat video! I like the style.

remeber the horrors of ball form nightmare

If squeak squad gets a remake,i hope they improved dark nebula