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The Acolyte Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, Easter Eggs, Theories, Spoiler Review, & Ending Explained! Kelnacca lightsaber fight in In Episode 7 of The Acolyte, titled "Choice," the story takes a significant leap back in time to explore the events that unfolded on the planet Brendok 16 years prior. The episode begins with Jedi Masters Indara, Kelnacca, Sol, and Padawan Torbin arriving on Brendok in search of a mysterious "vergence," a powerful nexus of the Force. Initially, the Jedi are uncertain about the vergence's nature, but their mission takes a turn when Sol discovers two young girls, Osha and Mae, who are connected to the vergence. The episode reveals that the Jedi were sent to Brendok after a hyperspace disaster 100 years earlier, which left the planet barren. As the Jedi observe the girls and their connection to the Force, they discover that the twins were not born but created from the vergence. This revelation leads to a confrontation with the Nightsisters, led by Mother Aniseya and Mother Koril, who are responsible for the twins' creation.The episode explores the moral dilemmas faced by the Jedi as they grapple with the ethical implications of their actions. The conflict escalates when the Nightsisters, fearing the Jedi's intentions, take aggressive measures to protect the twins. In the climax of the episode, a tragic event occurs, resulting in the apparent deaths of the Nightsisters and the separation of the twins. The episode ends with the Jedi making a difficult decision to hide the truth from the Jedi Council to protect Osha and maintain order within the Jedi ranks. Episode 7 of The Acolyte delves into the complex relationships between the Jedi, the Nightsisters, and the twins, exploring themes of creation, destiny, and the consequences of one's choices.
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@ReelRejects
@ReelRejects 18 күн бұрын
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@francisco_m7849
@francisco_m7849 18 күн бұрын
Happy birthday, Greg
@sikkouvol.1996
@sikkouvol.1996 18 күн бұрын
You have brain rot if you actually like this show friend.
@user-zl9sh9mz6h
@user-zl9sh9mz6h 18 күн бұрын
Could you guys say "like" 95% less, please? Thanks!
@martinhejtmanek2358
@martinhejtmanek2358 18 күн бұрын
@@sikkouvol.1996 And you are not his friend if you think you can impose your opinion on him and insult him. Friend.
@MotherJanuary
@MotherJanuary 18 күн бұрын
People need to realize that the Coven was not evil and when you go from that viewpoint you realize that they were just a family trying to protect there children but also there way of life- They didn’t kill anyone they didn’t hurt anyone the only time they used there powers was always in defense never in trying to kill someone After Mother Aniseya was brutally murdered by Jedi Sol wrongfully that is when the Coven fighting still in defense but also in offense so that no other person would die- You can feel how you want to feel but Jedi Sol Jedi Torbin and the wooky Jedi we’re all in the wrong Carrie Anne moss was the only one who consistently tried to understand what was going on from a higher big picture view point But those Jedi after what they did should have all been stripped of there station and immediately removed from the Jedi order and the fact that they weren’t because they kept the secret for 16 yrs shows that they were corrupt and had fallen into darkness The witches were definitely innocent the Jedi came in like child protective services and instead of actually looking at the situation Sol just immediately said they were in danger all because he wanted a Padawan if you listen to Carrie Anne moss character She states and that’s why I have a Padawan and you don’t they made that scene jump out because they wanted the viewers to realize that Sol was jealous of not having a student to teach so much so that it clouded his judgment. Yes the witches lived differently but all three of the male Jedis were jumping to quick conclusions and making their own decisions At the end of the day aniyseya had made up her mind about letting osha go with the jedis there was no need for violence When she shouted out No it was her way of trying to stop the jedis and mother Koril from fighting and before that happened Sol yet again jumped to conclusions and killed her immediately making him the bad guy and darkening his spirit Everything after that moment was just a response to the jedis killing their leader but they never were in danger the ceremony wasn’t evil and neither were any of the witches They just did things differently
@user-jg5ie8rc1s
@user-jg5ie8rc1s 18 күн бұрын
"No, he's explaining the 16 years". "Oh, but through the form of a flashback". I must admit that I was hoping for him to explain the 16 years in the form of interpretive dance.
@alexp601
@alexp601 18 күн бұрын
Or we could’ve just heard him telling her what really happened (maybe with some quick flashback scenes) instead of spending a whole episode retreading mostly what we already knew
@user-jg5ie8rc1s
@user-jg5ie8rc1s 18 күн бұрын
@@alexp601 I'd still go with the interpretive dance, personally, but you make a good point. They have to fill the series somehow, I guess.
@alexp601
@alexp601 18 күн бұрын
@@user-jg5ie8rc1s Sol to Mae: “To fully explain to you what really happened, I have brought along my good friend, Megan Thee Stallion.” *Begins twerking
@TheMarkhq
@TheMarkhq 18 күн бұрын
Fvcking funniest comment here 🤣 😂!! 10/10 for real.
@thewerewolff7248
@thewerewolff7248 18 күн бұрын
@@alexp601 There’s a thing in storytelling called “show don’t tell”. Stuff like this is more impactful if you let your audience actually see it instead of just having characters talk about it.
@testtest-qm7cj
@testtest-qm7cj 18 күн бұрын
So basically, master Sol was too rash, mother Koril was too belligerent, Mae was childish, Wookie is just too strong, and last but not least mother Aniseya lacked communication skills, IF ONLY she clarified why she was turning into a giant ghost crow beforehand!
@jaxsonlambert9750
@jaxsonlambert9750 18 күн бұрын
I mean she didn’t really have time to explain when Torbin and mother Koril both had their weapons ready.
@7thangelz
@7thangelz 18 күн бұрын
if only Sol hadn't made his desperation for a padwan , none of this would've happened
@MNGN101
@MNGN101 18 күн бұрын
@@jaxsonlambert9750 You don't de-escalate a situation by turning into a demon.
@kevinbernatek7875
@kevinbernatek7875 18 күн бұрын
Exactly 😭😭😭
@hanshotfirst4214
@hanshotfirst4214 18 күн бұрын
Well mae is a child so ..yeah she will be childish
@TR-ry1xv
@TR-ry1xv 18 күн бұрын
Why did Sol force lift the bridges instead of just the two 45 lb kids?
@gsarngad
@gsarngad 18 күн бұрын
I came here to say this. If he can hold up the bridges he could have pulled the two girls to him.
@RaedViera
@RaedViera 18 күн бұрын
Because of everything else in this show... bad writing
@ThatBonsaipanda
@ThatBonsaipanda 18 күн бұрын
Size matters not, an old master once said. He couldn't focus because he was so distraught (if one wants to dig for an explanation).
@CMCustom112
@CMCustom112 17 күн бұрын
Less lifting, more like holding in place... barely
@duncanlandon2328
@duncanlandon2328 17 күн бұрын
We are 7 episodes in and you’re still surprised by how bad the writing is 😅
@rrivaso
@rrivaso 18 күн бұрын
Mae misquotes Mother Aniseya when se talks about sacrifice with the Jedi, the actual quote was "Ascension is about walking through fear, is about sacrificing a part of yourself" not "Everyone must walk through fear, everybody must be sacrificed to fulfill their destiny" this is one of many misunderstood elements the makes Sol jump to the rushed conclusion that the coven is evil. Most of his actions in this episode are dictated by fear and a misguided belief that he needs to protect these children from something he doesn't even try to understand.
@7thangelz
@7thangelz 18 күн бұрын
i thought it was obvious that Mae got the words wrong, plus it should be a given when talking to children, that they will not convey things properly due to their age
@Byronic19134
@Byronic19134 18 күн бұрын
Well the coven was evil and Mae was coached to lie.
@francisco_m7849
@francisco_m7849 18 күн бұрын
@@7thangelzthats why Indara kept telling Sol to chill because they were children and he did not have the full story
@7thangelz
@7thangelz 18 күн бұрын
@francisco_m7849 I'm convinced he also lied about Osha passing. Indara was very generous to not call him out
@7thangelz
@7thangelz 18 күн бұрын
@Byronic19134 lol, no And so what if they told their children to lie to strangers that mean to take them just because
@GianfrancoGuerraPadilla
@GianfrancoGuerraPadilla 18 күн бұрын
Torbin's lightsaber move was impressive. It looked like Anakin's style while he was repelling the arrows.
@therealt7368
@therealt7368 17 күн бұрын
Because it was 😊
@basicsimp8798
@basicsimp8798 18 күн бұрын
Fear was the enemy here. Everyone acted of their worst fear and it ended up in disaster. Mother Anaseya and Master Indara were the rational ones here, sadly they didn't listen to them.... That's sad. 😢
@sithddy7208
@sithddy7208 18 күн бұрын
Honestly, if somebody was actively turning into a smoke demon right before my eyes I’d use my lightsaber too
@MNToThat
@MNToThat 18 күн бұрын
Even smoke dies when you stab it in the belly... looking at you Sabine....
@sudalaimuthu3312
@sudalaimuthu3312 18 күн бұрын
Of course because jedi didn't know what she try to do kill or stop
@7thangelz
@7thangelz 18 күн бұрын
after you invade my home,
@Iceland_Siglufjordur
@Iceland_Siglufjordur 18 күн бұрын
아무 설명 없이 갑자기 저렇게 변신하면, 솔직히 나도 너도 우리도 요다도 찔렀을 거야.
@hanshotfirst4214
@hanshotfirst4214 18 күн бұрын
​@@MNToThateven a being that gets stabbed and doesn't get immediate medical attention can die yeah that's true. Sabine got instant medical attention. That in painfully obvious I fear
@Midnight_7567
@Midnight_7567 18 күн бұрын
I think that while Torbin's impatience to go home is the more central issue with him, I think running off to grab the kids directly is more a case of "Oh! We found the thing we've been looking for on this planet now lets grab it!"
@sackthebastard
@sackthebastard 18 күн бұрын
Yeah we got that. It’s just such a silly motivation.
@jillg9108
@jillg9108 18 күн бұрын
Mae is 8 years old with the impulsiveness and lack of true understanding of consequences of actions. She seems to have to carry her actions as if she had an adult mind.
@Rakk-z1w
@Rakk-z1w 18 күн бұрын
You do not have a brain if you are really trying to find sense in the writing
@Midnight_7567
@Midnight_7567 18 күн бұрын
@@Rakk-z1w that's a bit rude, there is sense on the writing, whether you choose to follow it and understand what's said is up to you
@Nipc23
@Nipc23 18 күн бұрын
@@Midnight_7567 indara is by far the worst and everyone is saying she was the voice of reason which she was but she’s the most senior Jedi and leader of the team and she ultimately failed she let Sol and her padawan run wild and people say “if they’d have listened to indara everything would be fine” and you’re totally correct but a leaders job is to make people listen, I really don’t wanna be that guy but if it was a man leading the team the question would be why does his team not listen to him he’s clearly not a good leader but because it’s a woman it’s oh my god all these men just undermined her and didn’t listen, terrible writing because they clearly don’t understand what a leader is
@MimiTulane
@MimiTulane 18 күн бұрын
occurred to me during this rewatch that Sol's motivation in letting Mae fall was to get rid of the only witness that could tell the council how he murdered her mother. None of this had to transpire had the Jedi just collected their moss and minded their business. Going back to when Mae confronted Torbin, her first ultimatum was that Tobin go confess to the council the Jedi's part they played in it, but he chose to drink poison rather than admit they over stepped. As for the comments on Mae acting childish, well she was 8 years old, so a child being childish is what she was supposed to be. All the questions asked concerning her culture, how they were fathered etc was NONE of the Jedi's business! By their own rules the twins were too old to join the order, yet Sol continued to push. The witches submitted to their demands to test the girls. They saw the girls were willing to fail the test on purpose to remain with their family. But none of that mattered. It's the unmitigated gall on the Jedi's part that got me. Then to cover it all up, they let Mae become the scapegoat. Periodt. When Osha finds out it was Sol who killed her mama, she is going full on dark!
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
You mean she may become The Acolyte. Nah. That would follow story telling tradition of thousand of years of human history. Disney writers wouldn't do that.
@Angel-lt1sh
@Angel-lt1sh 13 күн бұрын
Exactly! Of course, if you have a colonizers mindset none of this makes sense. The Jedi are definitely it the victims here
@francisco_m7849
@francisco_m7849 18 күн бұрын
Now that explains why Sol has trouble distinguishing between mae and osha. They share the same force signature there’s nothing to distinguish one from the other besides their personality their physical personality. If you try to force read them, it’ll be the same imprint.
@fabian5813
@fabian5813 18 күн бұрын
One Has a Tattoo on her forehead. the other doesn’t
@tylerpifer5966
@tylerpifer5966 18 күн бұрын
@@fabian5813I paid close attention to that last episode. They did a good job of having her hide the tattoo.
@francisco_m7849
@francisco_m7849 18 күн бұрын
@@fabian5813 she’s purposely hiding it plus if you watch Sol he’s not paying attention to her face. He’s moving back-and-forth and thinking of other stuff.
@francisco_m7849
@francisco_m7849 18 күн бұрын
Since where the audience were detached, we have no investment in the scene so we are looking at everything that’s going on to pick up clues. So we’re not actually sitting in his position with everything that’s going on.
@spookykouki8970
@spookykouki8970 18 күн бұрын
If you physically hangout with twins separately, it’s pretty easy to tell who’s who from the way they act. Force isn’t needed to figure it out, it’s just common sense.
@Exaris79
@Exaris79 18 күн бұрын
That's why there's a Prime Directive with StarFleet not to interfere with the local races. It's obvious that Sol broke General Order #1 of the Federation's Prime Directive if the Acolyte was in the star trek universe.
@michaeltessler
@michaeltessler 18 күн бұрын
This is such a good crossover comment hahah
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
Now that is proper Nerd
@GirlWithAStarEarring
@GirlWithAStarEarring 8 күн бұрын
and that is why I will always be a trekkie over a star wars fan lol
@spookykouki8970
@spookykouki8970 18 күн бұрын
Sol could hold up two bridges that weigh who knows how much, but couldn’t simply pick up Mae and osha instead, with the force? Cmon man.
@frostedcrabcake1592
@frostedcrabcake1592 16 күн бұрын
You're forgetting how the force works. He was struggling with not only the events prior, but with the guilt he was also feeling. Focus and attention is what he lacked in that moment. Without that, you can't use it successfully.
@spookykouki8970
@spookykouki8970 16 күн бұрын
@@frostedcrabcake1592 so basically he lacked common sense?
@frostedcrabcake1592
@frostedcrabcake1592 16 күн бұрын
@@spookykouki8970 Huh? No. Did you even read my comment? Sol went through the ringer mentally. It has nothing to do with common sense, rather his state of mind. Remember Luke training under Yoda? He couldn't lift his x-wing out of the swamp, not because he wasn't powerful (cause he definitely was) but rather he wasn't in the right mental state. He was frustrated, tired, and worried about his friends. Without a calm or focused mind in the Star Wars, using the force is difficult. Sol just killed the twins mother, who revealed that she was gonna let Osha leave with the Jedi. Not only did his rash actions get her killed and started the fighting, but he acted on fear. Which after fighting your friend and all of that happened, he simply didn't have what he needed. It's why he was able to save adult Osha easily with the force in the future, not only has he had more training, but he was calm.
@verde5738
@verde5738 15 күн бұрын
@@frostedcrabcake1592 What a load of nonsensical copium.
@casualfanatic4217
@casualfanatic4217 13 күн бұрын
@@frostedcrabcake1592so because of traumatic BS, Sol wasn’t in the right mindset to force lift the two girls but he was still able to lift the two heavy ton bridges?
@ReelRejects
@ReelRejects 18 күн бұрын
Im seeing people say this is the best, some are saying it's the worst episode...what's your take?!
@davisjustin1313
@davisjustin1313 18 күн бұрын
Good to get answers but a bit underwhelming. Still not terrible like some Star Wars "fans" have been saying since before the show came out. I'm having fun with this show and hoping the finale sticks the landing.
@martincrabtree7378
@martincrabtree7378 18 күн бұрын
Trash
@whitejosh444
@whitejosh444 18 күн бұрын
Complete garbage writing
@almogdov
@almogdov 18 күн бұрын
That people are tiring.
@angelmonster1995
@angelmonster1995 18 күн бұрын
Vert bad
@AllGreyEverything
@AllGreyEverything 18 күн бұрын
It was my impression that Mother Aneseya made a vulnerable Torbin extra crazed to go home. She sensed that desire and pushed it, but it didn't manifest as she intended. She didn't think that he would find his excuse to go home in taking the twins, she perhaps just thought he would convince the other Jedi to leave. It's actually a pretty cool motivation because it makes the one who was advocating nonviolence and cooler heads at fault too. She mirrors Indara in that respect, who ends up doing something horrific despite her efforts to maintain peace. No hands were clean in this, except for those of the children who were being emotionally manipulated.
@ComandoPadentro
@ComandoPadentro 18 күн бұрын
Yeah, like and extra Inception. I think that too.
@Whispie
@Whispie 18 күн бұрын
Sol's fear of what he did not understand, his hubris, and his warped sense of destiny seemed to be the major catalyst of this disaster. It's why he killed Aniseya. Torbin feels like everything that happened is his fault. And it's kinda true. None of it would have happened if he didn't rush in.
@borderlandish1140
@borderlandish1140 18 күн бұрын
He killed her because she turned into a smoke demon 😂
@Whispie
@Whispie 18 күн бұрын
@@borderlandish1140~ She was trying to protect Mae. Things were turning violent and she wanted to get Mae safe. Sol was on edge because he assumed Mae and Osha were in danger. He didn't understand what was going on. So he attacked. His irrational fear drove him to it. He felt like this was his destiny. To rescue the girls. But it wasn't destiny. It was hubris. A hero complex creating a threat that was never real. He could have taken Osha as his padawan without bloodshed.
@therealOGGRIM
@therealOGGRIM 18 күн бұрын
​@Whispie If only everyone conveyed what they were thinking truly instead of acting an their instincts and fear, maybe things would've had an entirely different outcome.
@Whispie
@Whispie 18 күн бұрын
@@therealOGGRIM~ There was a person with a level head leading both sides of this. If the coven listened to Aniseya and/or the jedi listened to Indara, everything would have been fine.
@thisismyname3928
@thisismyname3928 18 күн бұрын
👆🏳‍🌈
@redcomet0079
@redcomet0079 18 күн бұрын
I thought this ep was gonna reveal that osha started the fire, not Mae. *Nope* it turns out Mae is just as self centered, selfish & delusional as we first thought
@alexp601
@alexp601 18 күн бұрын
It was the most basics explanation of what really happened. There wasn’t much of any interesting going on
@margolitapnina6716
@margolitapnina6716 18 күн бұрын
accident of a 8 years old. Well police come to your home and pretend to take your sister, and you, from your family. she is a witch so she burns the symbol of the Jedi, but as a 8 years old panic when she accidentally started a fire. Her mom thinks they have to defend Osha and the coven. how is she self-centred
@redcomet0079
@redcomet0079 18 күн бұрын
@@margolitapnina6716 wow, what a terrible analogy. It was barely an “accident” 🙄 she purposely lit that book on fire
@margolitapnina6716
@margolitapnina6716 18 күн бұрын
@@redcomet0079 are u blind? she immediately regretted it and did start a fire while freaking out🤣 I repeat 8 years old. too difficult right?
@redcomet0079
@redcomet0079 18 күн бұрын
@@margolitapnina6716 Do you often come to defense of terrible characters making terrible character choices? 🤨 what a simpleton 😆
@MrBrock314
@MrBrock314 18 күн бұрын
Him being away from Coruscant for 7 weeks makes his homesickness kind of ridiculous considering he doesn't even have a family outside the Jedi. 7 weeks is not a long time.
@alexp601
@alexp601 18 күн бұрын
They probably have good wifi in Coruscant
@w10u1sg
@w10u1sg 18 күн бұрын
His desire to leave was turbo charged through mental manipulation by the witch queen
@Barlofontain
@Barlofontain 18 күн бұрын
Probably had a new season of At Home with the Hutts to catch up on
@Emerson_Grey
@Emerson_Grey 18 күн бұрын
But the dude has no problem meditating in silence for almost 2 decades… not in Coruscant.
@Orquis
@Orquis 18 күн бұрын
Almost 2 months is not a long time for you ?? If I was a teenager in the middle of nowhere for that long I’d probably just end it 😭 but I wouldn’t say he has no family to go to when he probably had friends who are like his family
@NikolasAmodeo
@NikolasAmodeo 18 күн бұрын
I appreciate Indara saying some of the things the fans were saying, "that they're too young", that they shouldn't get involved, etc.
@Elnont
@Elnont 18 күн бұрын
Lee Jung Jae has been awesome in every fight scene. One of the best Jedi fighters movement-wise I think we’ve had - it’s almost like he’s dancing.
@aramisone7198
@aramisone7198 18 күн бұрын
There is a fan fiction film and the light saber fights is better then anything Disney has made those fans did a great job.
@Elnont
@Elnont 18 күн бұрын
@@aramisone7198 that’s nice. My comment is about Lee Jung Jae’s performance of the choreography though, not Disney vs Fan Film fight choreography.
@ThomasMees
@ThomasMees 18 күн бұрын
@@aramisone7198shut up
@hohomon
@hohomon 17 күн бұрын
Every time Lee Jung-jae shows off his lightsaber dancing, I can't take my eyes off him.
@boatymcboatface666
@boatymcboatface666 17 күн бұрын
Darth Maul, hold my beer!
@ecksearoh6283
@ecksearoh6283 18 күн бұрын
Torbin was a teenager stuck in the boonies during boring shit for seven weeks. Of course he wanted to leave.
@harrisonplott4674
@harrisonplott4674 18 күн бұрын
right? 7 weeks on a previously uncharted planet to research vegetation and wildlife. at that age im sure he wanted more action and glory id be homesick and bored too
@spencerrr9878
@spencerrr9878 18 күн бұрын
Right like imagine being that age and mostly living in what amounts to very very expensive university or city full time for your whole life and then being forced dig up moss on easter island for 2 months 😂 id be foaming at the mouth to gtfo too
@harrisonplott4674
@harrisonplott4674 18 күн бұрын
@@spencerrr9878 i feel likey duped themselves into it being more
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
Anakin hated Sand. Torbin hates camping. These seem like reasonable concerns from magical wizard children.
@NotSoSvenn
@NotSoSvenn 18 күн бұрын
that speeder bike had me dying.
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob 18 күн бұрын
It looked so bad and it had to be intentional
@alexp601
@alexp601 18 күн бұрын
When Sol comes to a stop on the bike, the animation freezes for the last few frames before the scene cuts. It shows how bad the quality of the production of this show was
@OrionInSpace
@OrionInSpace 18 күн бұрын
I think they wanted to match what the speeder bike scenes looked like in the OT trilogy. Not saying that was a good idea but I think that’s what they went for.😅
@OrionInSpace
@OrionInSpace 18 күн бұрын
@@ZachBobBobsee my comment above for why it was probably intentional
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob 18 күн бұрын
@@OrionInSpace Yeah this is why I said it had to be intentional but it does not look good. When those artists did what they did for the original trilogy they were trying their absolute best with the technology they had available to them at the time. We can do so much better now but instead we're making things look shoddy on purpose for what? Nostalgia?
@Eziali
@Eziali 18 күн бұрын
Even Mae's misquote of what her mom said was such a great detail. But I would say the fact that Sol was so quick to belive that she was saying everyone correctly as a child is insane. She clearly had doubt about what she was saying by saying "I think" or "that's what Mama said". This is why getting a response from the council would have been worth waiting for. Because they may have suggested speaking to an adult and someone from the coven who could give them clarity on what Ascension was and that its not them drinking the Kool-Aid instead of Sol forcing his idea of what she said as truth and just making a rash decision.
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
But Witches are Bad - Sol
@terrymcginnis01
@terrymcginnis01 16 күн бұрын
I could not take Mae seriously when she was repeating what Mama said... "Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush"
@mrvoltar
@mrvoltar 18 күн бұрын
Dude, I love camping but 7 weeks of it would turn me to the darkside too, probably.
@H_D_Walker
@H_D_Walker 17 күн бұрын
One week is enough for me 😂
@AllGreyEverything
@AllGreyEverything 18 күн бұрын
The song was initially weird, but then I put it in the context of the Chinese dramas I watch. Songs that overtly touch on the themes of the show are standard, and they become huge pop hits. This one is by Victoria Monet.
@DestroIABM
@DestroIABM 18 күн бұрын
Somewhere there is a cut of episodes 6 and 7 where OSHA and Mae learn this at the same time from each of their captors and realize they've been manipulated
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
I hate characters telling me something they could just show. Their reactions are not that important. Osha will be upset. Mae has no reason to change her position. Now that I write this that's a problem for the Mae character.
@DestroIABM
@DestroIABM 17 күн бұрын
@@Dryltd it is. Mae didn't need to hear this, Osha did. This structure is so weird to me.
@MrTragedious986
@MrTragedious986 18 күн бұрын
Poor Torbin and Master Kelnacca, they are going to have PTSD for their lives.
@Swifter2020
@Swifter2020 18 күн бұрын
Uh
@MrTragedious986
@MrTragedious986 18 күн бұрын
@@Swifter2020 I know they are dead, but still.
@Dergo666
@Dergo666 18 күн бұрын
That's exactly it, that's why Kelnacca went into isolation and Torbin felt like all of this was on him and his impatience. That's not even mentioning how traumatic it must be to have your mind taken over and attacking his friends. That will have an effect on people that is not positive.
@affiqothman
@affiqothman 18 күн бұрын
I am having PTSD
@GoldenEclipsed
@GoldenEclipsed 18 күн бұрын
Most of the double scenes were to show what sol saw and what caused him to misinterpret what was gonna happen.
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
They know that but modern critics want scenes to always present new information. I would love to watch modern critics pull their hair out watching old westerns. Slowest movies ever with repeat scenes galore.
@thelmctodaythelmctoday4037
@thelmctodaythelmctoday4037 18 күн бұрын
They made Torbins suicide absolutely pointless
@ralphrabago4957
@ralphrabago4957 18 күн бұрын
the failure of one the failure of two the failure of maaaaaanyyyyyyy
@stalematesibling
@stalematesibling 18 күн бұрын
HEY, MANNY IS THE BEST PART OF THIS SHOW!
@Rob_Himself83
@Rob_Himself83 18 күн бұрын
I love how they all died swaying like idiots. 😂
@stalematesibling
@stalematesibling 17 күн бұрын
@@Rob_Himself83 so you're still watching?
@Rob_Himself83
@Rob_Himself83 17 күн бұрын
@@stalematesibling No. The episode was only about 40 minutes. I finished watching about 20 hours ago...
@stalematesibling
@stalematesibling 17 күн бұрын
@@Rob_Himself83 so you're still wtahcing
@statixfear
@statixfear 18 күн бұрын
Man... that Indara scene killing off all the witches thru the Force kinda reminds me of the scene in Multiverse Of Madness, when Scarlet Witch killed Professor X. Subtle, but brutal 💀
@alexp601
@alexp601 18 күн бұрын
Scarlet Witch snapped his neck right up close to the camera. Not really subtle. And not really like the witches dropping dead.
@statixfear
@statixfear 18 күн бұрын
@@alexp601 True. Though we only saw the external representation of what happened to the witches unlike Scarlet Witch snapping the neck inside Charles's head. I wonder what it would have looked like if they showed a representation of what Indara mentally did with the witches 🤔
@RBernsCarter
@RBernsCarter 18 күн бұрын
I didn’t think she killed them, just knocked them out having used so much power. I assumed they were then killed by debris/fire
@Jehphg
@Jehphg 17 күн бұрын
people are too quick to blame her imho, at that point it was just self defence, the witches had it coming
@starhawk63
@starhawk63 17 күн бұрын
I don't think Indara was trying to kill the witches, just trying to break their hold on Kelnacca.
@IggyStardust1967
@IggyStardust1967 18 күн бұрын
This episode literally backs up what I've been saying since episode 3: "From a certain point of view" is the entire point of the story.
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
From a certain point of view I understand what you are saying.
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob 18 күн бұрын
The song at the end certainly was a choice. I noped out of it the second I realised what it was. People often say a lot of things aren't Star Wars but contemporary pop R&B music is NOT Star Wars.
@chrisretzlaff2895
@chrisretzlaff2895 18 күн бұрын
Except in the special edition Return of the Jedi, they were playing the hits in Jabbas palace
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob 18 күн бұрын
@@chrisretzlaff2895 I mean that scene is infamous and people don't love that either
@Omnidudes
@Omnidudes 18 күн бұрын
If you dont like the show then dont watch. There are many of us who do like it and we dont need that negativity here
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob 18 күн бұрын
@@Omnidudes Don't be so dramatic and presumptuous. I stated ONE thing I didn't like and that means I hate the whole show? I'm a huge star wars defender but just because we like things doesn't mean we can't critique them
@LadyBeyondTheWall
@LadyBeyondTheWall 18 күн бұрын
@@Omnidudes Good god, this is becoming a problem. People are allowed to critique the show they're watching! Why, all of a sudden, is critiquing a show now met with "if you dont like it don't watch! negativityyyy!"??
@Whispie
@Whispie 18 күн бұрын
Indara was incredibly wise. If the others followed her lead, everything would have been fine.
@Nipc23
@Nipc23 18 күн бұрын
I see people say this but is she not the reason for the entire cover up sol was clearly wanting to be truthful and come clean I’ve never seen a Jedi say “lie in this situation as it’ll give you the best outcome” she’s the worst in my opinion also in charge of the mission lets her padawan be possessed and then run back to the witches coven because he wants to go home
@wanderingseth
@wanderingseth 18 күн бұрын
When you put it like that, it's quite a powerful life lesson - to always be patient and exercise restraint
@thisismyname3928
@thisismyname3928 18 күн бұрын
🚫
@kihouou1295
@kihouou1295 18 күн бұрын
@@Nipc23 I agree but Anakin allowed Ashoka to run off to and during war with the ability to yank her back with the force and didnt. Also, just because they are a teacher, doesnt mean they are leader worthy for a group task of this nature. Especially when there dealing with first contact like this. Indara was probably better suited for a resource gathering mission leadership role such as this than diplomatic instances so things spiraled out of control and with everyone viewing her as the most level headed and wisest, diverted to her for guidance when in her head she is probably "Ok, stay calm. What do I do? How can i make this work without fighting?" She obviously has never been in that big of a leadership role before. These things happen when trust upon you especially when something big like this is just put on your shoulders. Also i just always viewed the Jedi as they all deal with a more conformity style religion and expect everyone to be this patient and calm individual that when someone deviates, there honestly confused and hesitiant. Once they calm down, the think through punishment. I think this is why Indara didnt know what to do in the moment and why things turned out the way it did. Probably also never went through this before so... life lessons.
@ManLikeBetty
@ManLikeBetty 18 күн бұрын
Torbin taking Mae's blood sample through her clothes bothered me way more than it should...
@copuim_dealer
@copuim_dealer 18 күн бұрын
Same
@alexp601
@alexp601 18 күн бұрын
It shows that the production and creators really didn’t care about what happens or how it happens
@lifeasafanpodcast9529
@lifeasafanpodcast9529 18 күн бұрын
Reminded me of anything startrek everytime they give a hyperspray
@AllGreyEverything
@AllGreyEverything 18 күн бұрын
EpiPen style!
@wanderingseth
@wanderingseth 18 күн бұрын
If mosquitoes can bite me through my merino t-shirts, I'm sure their tech is up to the task :)
@DrRastaFish
@DrRastaFish 18 күн бұрын
So... this is why dude killed himself...?
@Piratesi666
@Piratesi666 17 күн бұрын
All the witches died because pf his eagerness to leave to the planet. He was impatient and reckless, everything a Jedi isnt. Yeah your damn right he felt bad. Its an emotion called Empathy.
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
So you just wanted to go home and take a hot shower but your eagerness led directly to your master "killing" 50 women and then lying to cover that up. Can you sleep soundly?
@nathanrivera4953
@nathanrivera4953 15 күн бұрын
​@@Piratesi666why tf would torbin feel bad about witches dying when they violated his mind in the first place?? The Jedi could have attacked and killed them all in the first episode for mind controlling their youngest and arguably weakest member. What does that say about them???
@Piratesi666
@Piratesi666 15 күн бұрын
@@nathanrivera4953 Sound like you don’t really understand what The Jedi are all about.
@roycelewis7975
@roycelewis7975 13 күн бұрын
@@nathanrivera4953 Cause the show writing is bad. The jedi break into the place of people clearly abusing the force and manipulating children. Then the main lady tries to manipulate a teenager Jedi and turns into a smoke demon and starts turning one of the kids to smoke. Torbin literally did nothing wrong.
@davisjustin1313
@davisjustin1313 18 күн бұрын
That Torbin/Aniseya scene reminded me of Itchy wearing the VR pleasure hemet in the Holiday Special.
@Reptarxkingg
@Reptarxkingg 18 күн бұрын
I am still wondering why he is telling all of this to the evil twin? Thats how the previous episode ended, he was talking to the bad one. She was there for all of this, she knows already?
@LaurindaBellinger
@LaurindaBellinger 18 күн бұрын
same. Mae knows more truth than Osha! And how that fire spread in rock is still a mystery.
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
@@LaurindaBellinger Electrical fire through the cable passages. Poor engineering is not new to Star Wars. They have fire in space. This is SciFi fantasy from a person who grew up watch Flash Gordon.
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
He clearly wants to explain how Wrong her mother was to turn into Smoke in front of a scared Jedi. And that it was all a mistake and misunderstanding that he really really regrets. You are tied down because the whole killing your mother thing I recognize is not the best starting point for understanding.
@brandonbaerga4972
@brandonbaerga4972 18 күн бұрын
She literally becomes a space demon and expects not to get attacked on top of that the witches were at fault first
@trey1sandoval
@trey1sandoval 18 күн бұрын
No they weren’t and she wasn’t going to be threat to them so yes…. Sol made a mistake
@ThunderCrey
@ThunderCrey 18 күн бұрын
How were they at fault? The Jedi literally broke into their compound against the High Council’s orders lol The witches were just rightfully protecting their children. Just bc they are Jedi doesn’t give them the right to do whatever they want
@Jehphg
@Jehphg 17 күн бұрын
@@ThunderCrey they clearly did something messed up to get the children, kept going by stepping all over their agency when raising them in a cult as well, there's more to this. Also super trigger happy to mentally control people and kill them with abandon
@H_D_Walker
@H_D_Walker 17 күн бұрын
What? The jedi literally invaded their peaceful life ignoring the council orders.
@straightuphating1013
@straightuphating1013 7 күн бұрын
​@@H_D_WalkerYes but then she needs to explain osha is leaving peacefully so you can leave and not turn yourself and a young child into a mist Demon which could be dangerous to the child so , don't blame sol for reacting in that way do blame the Jedi for acting rash and stupid for no reason,is their word not Good enough to convince the counsel and blood samples
@kilohawke4648
@kilohawke4648 18 күн бұрын
yeah… this is why the Jedi should have body cams 😭
@Eziali
@Eziali 18 күн бұрын
Wow I will say while the Jedi are not the villians or wrong per say as a whole this episode really showed how Sol jumped the gun and assumed many things without either properly checking or asking those who had detailed answers. He is partially the cause for how serious everything got and is why Osha and Mae's mama died when she was just trying to help. This makes me think that Mae and Osha will have different reactions than we think to this information next episode. And there will be either a massive fallout/fight between two being Mae/Sol and Osha/ Qmir or just between Mae and Osha.
@Mcherri
@Mcherri 18 күн бұрын
I kinda want osha to switch and just go full sith let those emotions show but she doesn’t snap out of it and she and Qimir escape and osha tells sol to never look for her again.
@tarafauver2816
@tarafauver2816 18 күн бұрын
That’s a big issue with this they advertised the show as something that will show the Jedi in a more negative light and show the sith persecution this is making me agree more with the Jedi rather than the sith
@smokinjoe4709
@smokinjoe4709 18 күн бұрын
I disagree, I think Sol is the only sane one. The rest are batshit crazy wanting to leave two created, highly force-sensitive children, with a group of wacked out witches practicing dark-side magic. Hell no, those kids are coming with us!
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
@@smokinjoe4709 I disagree. The Sith haven't been seen for 900 years. What's the problem? And one of the children wants to go with us. Calmly ask for the child and we can circle back to this later once we have more information. Sol needs to chill. Children are enslaved on multiple planets. This is not even on the priority list.
@smokinjoe4709
@smokinjoe4709 17 күн бұрын
@@Dryltd Are you crazy, both of those girls are potential dark vaders, this needs to be dealt with right now. Sol is the only one with a clue, the rest are idiots.
@radecstark3191
@radecstark3191 18 күн бұрын
Jedi trespass witches home twice star wars fan " Y did the witches get hostile"?
@Piratesi666
@Piratesi666 17 күн бұрын
If your neighbours kid is screaming and sounds like its in danger, your saying you wouldnt go round and check it out?
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
@@Piratesi666 Except No one was screaming. They showed you the scenes twice. That never happened. Your analogy is flawed. Adjust please.
@Piratesi666
@Piratesi666 17 күн бұрын
@@Dryltd It was an analogy, not like for like situation.
@nathanrivera4953
@nathanrivera4953 15 күн бұрын
The witches violated torbins mind the first interaction they had when the Jedi clearly came in peace and wanted to just talk. The Jedi could have justifiably attacked them right there, but they didn't.
@Piratesi666
@Piratesi666 15 күн бұрын
@@nathanrivera4953 “A Jedi uses their powers for knowledge and defence, never attack.”
@francisco_m7849
@francisco_m7849 18 күн бұрын
No, here’s an interesting take on my part. We are used to Jedi when they have an actual physical conflict coming straight for them. We had it with Luke in the original trilogy, we had it with the Jedi council with the rise of the Empire and the prequel trilogy, we had it with Rey And the Emperor in the last trilogy. This miniseries, we are shown what Jedi do when there’s no conflict they are just roaming the galaxy, checking on things and seeing where the force is influencing change in the galaxy. You got yourself a young Padawan who is out doing soil sampling in the far regions of the galaxy. Do you not think the guy is not going to be back crap crazy because these ones are not like Kool-Aid drinking followers they are just regular beings who have emotions whether they are trained by the Jedi or not you put somebody out there in the middle of nowhere without years and years of training they are going to go bat crap crazy. I like this concept that they did here because honestly up to this point the Jedi to me have always been a very militant indoctrinated society they can show no weakness whatsoever. Now what this show does it show us that? Hey, these are just all children raised in a certain Belief system and not all of them, which I believe in the books they explore this not all of them can handle it. So far, I don’t have a problem with the over arching concept of what they’re trying to say execution has a bit of issue, but I don’t hate what they are trying to say or do.
@Brook11223
@Brook11223 18 күн бұрын
The Nighsisters possessing Kelnacca's mind with Indara coming to the rescue by removing the mind control brought back to The Matrix Reloaded with Neo stopping the Sentinels as they were about to kill him, Trinity and Morpheus.
@jordanwhite352
@jordanwhite352 18 күн бұрын
I dont want the drugs that you're on.
@ecksearoh6283
@ecksearoh6283 17 күн бұрын
Nightsister is a slur, those are just witches.
@gogadantes8699
@gogadantes8699 18 күн бұрын
19:31 Sol: "Girls! The bridge is going to collapse! Run back and step off!" 💁‍♂️
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
Sol: "Girls stop pointing at each other and get off the bridge!"
@sotalentedmiles9132
@sotalentedmiles9132 18 күн бұрын
I think the idea was to show that Torbin was just a typical teenager. He literally was acting like any other 15 years old would if the went camping for 7 weeks. His actions made sense too me
@emuman09
@emuman09 18 күн бұрын
Yea but because of the crappy writing Instead of the witches talking like normal people she decides to sneakily go inside his mind to which he then doesn't tell anyone about it
@karl-niclasburner8451
@karl-niclasburner8451 18 күн бұрын
Maybe I missed it, but what made him "opt-out" 16 years later? But to your point, after being raised in the academy, would he really be a "normal" teenager? He should have been better written as a homeschooled, YEC jesusfreak and a rabid "H-Youth" zealot.
@daurydavis3983
@daurydavis3983 18 күн бұрын
​@@emuman09not crappy writing Karen
@emuman09
@emuman09 18 күн бұрын
@@daurydavis3983 that comment doesn't make sense. Would you like to articulate?
@jordanwhite352
@jordanwhite352 18 күн бұрын
​@@emuman09You talk about crappy writing. When during 9/11 a group of white Americans killed a obviously seak gas station attendee all because they saw a turban on his head and thought he was a Muslim "Terrroist". 🙄
@francisco_m7849
@francisco_m7849 18 күн бұрын
This is yet another freaking Star Wars Hill I am willing to die on. Ever since I kept re-watching the original trilogy over and over again over the years, I always came to the conclusion that the force is one encompassing energy that exist in the Star Wars universe. It is so strong that you can easily tap into it with, strong negative emotions creating desire for the power or you can tap into it and just learn to use it without losing yourself to desire so it’s all a matter of the balance within you tapping into a power source. Other words the force is not dark and light good and evil. It’s just energy. How do you access it is, all based on the user. With that in mind, I think that the concept of the vergence, which is stupid, it just a hotspot of force energy that exist in different parts of the galaxy this planet happens to be a hotspot of force energy. What they are trying to say is that in the history of the Star Wars galaxy they have literally indoctrinated themselves everyone into thinking the forces good or bad, light or dark. I have yet to see on film, have not read any books or comics, Anyone use a balance of the force like the true nature of the force it’s always a struggle between good and bad, but I haven’t seen anybody who has struck a control of the full power of the force at least to my interpretation of the films. If that’s where they’re trying to lean towards with Rey then OK no problem. It just seems to me that constantly there is this issue with Star Wars where it’s either good or bad and nobody understands anybody’s point of view.
@path5657
@path5657 17 күн бұрын
I think people forget that something doesn't need to be perfect for people to enjoy it...
@kevint1196
@kevint1196 17 күн бұрын
Wow so we spent 180 Millions on this so it doesn’t need to be great….
@path5657
@path5657 16 күн бұрын
@@kevint1196 didn't say that...? Budgeting is a different subject entirely loll
@rollingstar1111
@rollingstar1111 15 күн бұрын
I'd settle for mediocre at this point. This is worse than The Book of Boba.
@verde5738
@verde5738 15 күн бұрын
And you forget that just because someone likes something, doesn't mean that it's good. This show is utter trash from an objective standpoint.
@Whispie
@Whispie 18 күн бұрын
If you play that song on the Spotify desktop app, the play bar becomes a lightsaber!
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob 18 күн бұрын
If you play anything Star Wars on Spotify the bar changes to a lightsaber
@Whispie
@Whispie 18 күн бұрын
@@ZachBobBob~ I thought that might be the case! First time I've seen it!
@copuim_dealer
@copuim_dealer 18 күн бұрын
What's it called
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob 18 күн бұрын
@@copuim_dealer Power of Two by Victoria Monet
@Whispie
@Whispie 18 күн бұрын
@@copuim_dealer~ Power of Two by Victoria Monét.
@thenerdywave2007
@thenerdywave2007 18 күн бұрын
Good Reaction Greg and Michael! The Wookie fight scene in this episode was cool! 👍
@duck-ew5zs
@duck-ew5zs 18 күн бұрын
Man, I just wanna see Qimir beat up more Jedi. Hope we get a 1v1 with him and Vernestra in the next episode. Again, the action is the part of this show that just keeps pulling me back lmao, Wookie Jedi performing a jump attack is just sick
@Eddieavina123
@Eddieavina123 18 күн бұрын
Love your video, you two, and keep up the great work you are awesome
@fabian5813
@fabian5813 18 күн бұрын
I have a feeling Tessler can be excited by watching One Blade Of Grass Grow, and he’ll be in shock and realize it’s a reference or metaphor for something
@Jehphg
@Jehphg 17 күн бұрын
I have a feeling you'l die alone melting on a sofa somewhere unloved and abandoned by everyone that matters
@michaeltessler
@michaeltessler 16 күн бұрын
Interestingly enough, in the no longer canon Knights of the Old Republic series...at the Khoonda Outpost near the Jedi Enclave there is an abnormal blade of grass that is later seen in the 2003 animated Clone Wars...OH I think I see your point
@fabian5813
@fabian5813 16 күн бұрын
@@michaeltessler 😂
@MrDjsantos101
@MrDjsantos101 18 күн бұрын
Glad they finally gave us Chewbacca fighting with a lightsaber
@thisperson2517
@thisperson2517 18 күн бұрын
Kelnacca*
@ayezoop884
@ayezoop884 18 күн бұрын
Chabewcca*
@hylianglitchmobber7570
@hylianglitchmobber7570 18 күн бұрын
Chupacabra*
@redcomet0079
@redcomet0079 18 күн бұрын
Gary Busey*
@rfhudy
@rfhudy 18 күн бұрын
Upchucka*
@nathandavis9385
@nathandavis9385 18 күн бұрын
Force sensitivity only works when writers want something specific to happen.
@MrHootiedean
@MrHootiedean 18 күн бұрын
Happy Birthday Greg! "You come here, on my daughter's ascension..." had me in tears! Loved: the performances (especially Carrie-Anne Moss and Jodi Turner Smith). Meh: Tobin's motivation. Hated: how on the show and in real life, everything would be fine if folks just minded their own damn business. I love this show. As a casual Star Wars fan, this is my favorite of the ones I've seen.
@ayezoop884
@ayezoop884 18 күн бұрын
Fight choreography always on point👌 idk why it was so cool seeing Torbin spin the light saber all fast deflecting all the arrows, new found respect for the character
@ssotkow
@ssotkow 18 күн бұрын
35:29 Interesting that Greg walked off again twice in a row in the outro while Michael is speaking. RUUUUUDDDEEEE Greg. LOL
@manuelluna5150
@manuelluna5150 18 күн бұрын
Such an unprofessional shill, he is 😂
@Amigmamale
@Amigmamale 16 күн бұрын
Dang, I'm seeing comments that slightly critique the show disappear before my very eyes, gotta make sure Disney is happy:)
@aesthetic_uk
@aesthetic_uk 18 күн бұрын
22:11 the song got me too Greg 😂
@ScipioTurner
@ScipioTurner 18 күн бұрын
The Sith Guy ( Qimir ) is Masters Sol's desire ( or darlk side) materialized by the force! Listen to how they say Mae and Osha are identical; they are not twins they are the same person divided by the Force. The same happened with Sol because of the intense guilt he felt. The Vergence uses the strong desire to have an acolyte, a padawan, and creates a person of pure desire. Which would act basically like a sith!
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
Now that is a theory.
@francisco_m7849
@francisco_m7849 18 күн бұрын
This episode is also going to confirm my theory that I keep going back-and-forth on that mother Koril most probably found. Qimir As a broken Padawan that the Jedi let go and probably taught him the more darker side of the power of the force. Other words, he had the training from the Jedi, but she just reinforced her lust for revenge for taking her children and her coven. Probably Qimir was abandoned by her as well because he was not seeking revenge against the Jedi like koril wanted
@brewhaggins
@brewhaggins 17 күн бұрын
I'm probably trying to put together something that isnt there, but im starting to wonder if the way mai and osha's personalities clash and the way they act is actually because of them not having access to the opposite spectrum of emotions. Mai has all the traits of selfishness/anger/pride and osha is more attuned to empathy/friendship/hopefulness. It would be kind of interesting on paper if that was thier original intent, but let's face it, if that was the case they dropped the ball. At least the series had some cool action scenes lol
@kellz9972
@kellz9972 18 күн бұрын
The end credits song reminded me of Alan Wake 2. Whenever you complete a chapter a song plays that sort of encapsulates the chapter and story beats you just played through.
@wanderingseth
@wanderingseth 18 күн бұрын
HAPPY BIRTHDAY GREG YOU GORGEOUS MAN! I'm enjoying the show, but I'm a fantasy fan not a Star Wars fan. I like the witches and I wish they hadn't just been wiped out. I was glad they showed that it was an electrical fire that spread, because I was so confused how a seemingly stone structure could burn. If you see the Jedi as the dominant organised religion, their tendency to kill witches and see any alternative spiritual power as evil is sadly consistent with our own history.
@rogersjgregory
@rogersjgregory 18 күн бұрын
Those witches had it coming. The Jedi could have handled things better, but the witches struck first, messing with Torbin, then getting armed and ready to fight them, then Osha and Mae’s mother does some crazy shit. Sol acted in self-defence, but not saving Mae is some dark shit. Good on you Sol, you’re the man.
@smokinjoe4709
@smokinjoe4709 18 күн бұрын
Not only that but they created two force sensitive children and are teaching them the dark-side - sorry, but that = time to die!
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
You must support Police doing search seizure without a warrant. Here in Texas you don't walk into my house with a gun uninvited. Be thankful I only controlled your mind to want to leave.
@smokinjoe4709
@smokinjoe4709 17 күн бұрын
@@Dryltd It's star wars not real life, get a grip.
@Dryltd
@Dryltd 17 күн бұрын
@@smokinjoe4709 I have a grip. When someone says something "had it coming" I want to know how far that thinking will go for them. The Jedi are the Senate's police. So what part isn't about Star Wars. Just because you have no good counter nor joke counter. Maybe you had it coming to read my comment. Maybe that's your punishment.
@themaxreboexperience5221
@themaxreboexperience5221 18 күн бұрын
The Jedi getting promotions after a catastrophe is so on brand
@ssotkow
@ssotkow 18 күн бұрын
Happy Birthday Greg!
@SiriuslyBlack7
@SiriuslyBlack7 18 күн бұрын
Mae and Osha:Fuuu-sion-haa!
@Grimbear13
@Grimbear13 18 күн бұрын
"I don't care guys I really liked episode 3" -Greg "So do we! That's why we gave it to you twice!" -Showrunners
@LazyDazeMedia
@LazyDazeMedia 18 күн бұрын
That song had me in awe for the entire end credits… my hand was literally over my mouth..
@jaryncovell2538
@jaryncovell2538 11 күн бұрын
The kid got the phrase from her mom wrong. She said they must "be sacrificed" but her mom said everyone must sacrifice a part of themselves for the coven, as in you must give up selfish desires so you only do things for the good of the coven.
@BTBSOUNDS
@BTBSOUNDS 18 күн бұрын
I didnt pay attention to the song at the end at all and holy shit its insane😂
@spencerrr9878
@spencerrr9878 18 күн бұрын
Yeah i missed it, its kind of a bop but it feels wayyyyyy out of place 😂
@hailmendoza6106
@hailmendoza6106 18 күн бұрын
It's like those old pop song remixes they used to put at the end of some Disney movies
@diegopansini3152
@diegopansini3152 18 күн бұрын
Torbin and Sol we’re so reckless, they made Anakin seem patient and wise. Like, what was Torbin thinking? 😂 What a terrible Padawan
@Piratesi666
@Piratesi666 17 күн бұрын
Thats why he killed himself.
@humandisaster18
@humandisaster18 12 күн бұрын
​@@Piratesi666yeah after seeing this episode I felt like I could understand why he felt especially guilty for what happened
@Piratesi666
@Piratesi666 12 күн бұрын
@@humandisaster18 It makes sense, right? Good story telling 👍
@Piratesi666
@Piratesi666 17 күн бұрын
Its good to see you guys form your opinions in a normal and healthy manner. You know, by watching it first and then formulating your thoughts. Seems like its a trend to watch reviews and make reviews before you watch the show.
@aliengranpa
@aliengranpa 18 күн бұрын
Anybody else get pedophile vibes from this episode?? Sol's instant obsession with OSA was downright creepy.
@Vulcanerd
@Vulcanerd 18 күн бұрын
I liked this episode well enough including the fact that we know why Indara was not for training Osha as well as now there’s an interesting connection with Sol and Qimir; both want/wanted a student.
@justinporter7818
@justinporter7818 18 күн бұрын
I understand people liking this show, but you can’t go away from this episode saying it’s good, especially with one left,
@jcc9erz
@jcc9erz 17 күн бұрын
Greg saying it’s ok to hate these Jedi is great 😂
@Iwillone
@Iwillone 15 күн бұрын
New Rockstars caught it think, that the way Torbin was reflected the mining planet he came from which is why he was an easy target.
@TurboMaui
@TurboMaui 18 күн бұрын
Been up waiting for this let’s gooooo
@michaelcarlton8439
@michaelcarlton8439 18 күн бұрын
Also just went back to listen to the end credits song… 😣😣 just sad
@starhawk63
@starhawk63 17 күн бұрын
😄😄😄 MICHAEL: "You come to me on the day of my daughter's Ascension..." 😄😄😄🥰
@michaeltessler
@michaeltessler 16 күн бұрын
I aim to please
@Vulcanerd
@Vulcanerd 18 күн бұрын
I can see Sol dying like Greg said. Not sure it’ll happen, but yeah. For the Sith to re-emerge in the PT, though, with Plagueis-Palps-Maul, there has to be an active line of succession that survives so I’m guessing Qimir doesn’t die. Unless, Qimir exists outside of that Sith lineage. So, if a s2 is going to happen, I wonder if that’s what’s going to be the central storyline?
@jordipan8933
@jordipan8933 18 күн бұрын
Respectively, thinking there will be a s2 is crazy
@Vulcanerd
@Vulcanerd 18 күн бұрын
@@jordipan8933 I’m not saying there necessarily will be. But, what I’m saying is Qimir may not die and it wouldn’t be far fetched if s2 would be or would have been an exploration of the Sith lineage. This is only 100 years before the prequels and Sheev and Maul didn’t pop up out of nowhere. In theory, at least it would go from Anakin > Dooku > Maul > Sheev > Plagueis > Tenebrous and it’s also entirely possible Plagueis and Tenebrous had multiple students too. Which means, at this point Tenebrous and/or Plagueis are likely to be around. The Jedi think the Sith aren’t around, but for Maul/Sheev to pop up in the PT, there Sith lineage had to have existed in the 1000 years in between. Just not known by the Order.
@2apocalypsex
@2apocalypsex 18 күн бұрын
I don't want to spoil any thing but if you go to the Acolyte page on Wikipedia and go to the cast section and look at the actress who plays Mother Koril it says that she is the Sith Master of Qimir, but it also says that she is the apprentice of Darth Tenabrous
@spencerrr9878
@spencerrr9878 18 күн бұрын
@@jordipan8933The show runners said they wanted just one season from the beginning but they could just be saying shit, also negative reviews doesnt matter to disney (or literally any large media corp especially when most are intentional review bombs) all they care about is watch time, number of watches, and people talking about the show. And there is A LOT of all 3 of those happening
@Eziali
@Eziali 18 күн бұрын
I will say I am intrigued by the fact that Trobin seems to have more guilt about this situation than Sol, even though he had the same, if not less, involvement in the situation. Sol should be devastated based on Jedi teaching. Torbin and Kelnaca seem to carry all the guilt and trauma of the death of the coven by taking up his vow and Kelnaca going into solitude. Sol and Indara seemingly just return to normal, especially Sol, after getting what he wants with Osha as his Padawan.
@alexp601
@alexp601 18 күн бұрын
Yeah, they were mind controlled, so I don't fully see why they'd spend the rest of their lives with such trauma. Yeah it was a traumatising time, but they were being mind controlled and weren't under their own influence (Torbin didn't even do anything bad while he was being controlled), so I don't really see what they were so traumatised for the rest of their lives, especially when the other two Jedi seemed pretty fine in present day
@spencerrr9878
@spencerrr9878 18 күн бұрын
@@alexp601I mean torbin probably has PTSD from his mind being taken over but also he almost certainly feels like everything that happened falls onhim and his selfishness. I could really see that considering how rushed they made everything feel, if your selfish actions kind of directly/indirectly caused the death of an entire group of people it might put a damper on your mood especially when your supposed to be a wise jedi
@Dreamless-Dreamer
@Dreamless-Dreamer 18 күн бұрын
Honestly I was pretty disappointed in this episode, I definitely don’t think it’s the worst but it’s just disappointing, I mean I get it’s a flashback and gives us some more insight but I don’t think their was enough here to justify seeing all the exact same scenes except with a slightly different perspective. I still enjoy the show but this one sadly was a letdown personally but I hope more people enjoyed it than me 🙂
@Knightowl1980
@Knightowl1980 18 күн бұрын
Anti climactic. I was watching like”this is it” this is the big mystery. The structure of the series was so poorly done. This should have been episode 1 or 2 and they should have had a linear narrative
@Dreamless-Dreamer
@Dreamless-Dreamer 18 күн бұрын
@@Knightowl1980 Yeah I really expected their to be like this huge revelation that would change the way I view things but nothing really happened that we didn’t already kind of know, I did like the fight, seeing a wookie Jedi is awesome and seeing the council did not want them to take the twins and sol letting Mae fall to save osha was interesting but that’s it🤷🏽‍♂️
@dandelion2330
@dandelion2330 18 күн бұрын
agree, would have been better as ep 1.. so we can at least get the pay off's they want us to have when the Jedi are later killed off
@jillg9108
@jillg9108 18 күн бұрын
This explanation of events was not a great payoff for me.
@arianalikens5300
@arianalikens5300 18 күн бұрын
It's my favorite episode so far
@ilhadi
@ilhadi 16 күн бұрын
Qimir wanted a pupil, Sol wanted a padawan. They are much more alike after all.
@Vulcanerd
@Vulcanerd 18 күн бұрын
Maybe someone who’s been on tours of duty will be more sympathetic to Torbyn’s desire to go home?
@Mertaranta
@Mertaranta 18 күн бұрын
So basically everything happened out of fear and prejudice, like many things in real history. Hmm, I kind of like this approach to the plot.
@thedarkknight2221
@thedarkknight2221 18 күн бұрын
What I loved the most about episodes 3 and 7 is how they show neither the Jedi nor the witches were innocent, and that like sadly too many real life conflicts it was born out of prejudices and misunderstandings.
@leons.kennedy6710
@leons.kennedy6710 18 күн бұрын
I really like how nuanced it was and then how it escalated/devolved so quickly.
@smokinjoe4709
@smokinjoe4709 18 күн бұрын
What's there to misunderstand? The witches are manipulating two created children and training them in the dark-side. The Jedi have every right to slay them all.
@leighwhite6700
@leighwhite6700 18 күн бұрын
Great reaction guys. Truth to your input. Thank you. ❤ Happy Birthday Greg!!!!!
@Ness0403pulea
@Ness0403pulea 18 күн бұрын
Amazing video !
@7thangelz
@7thangelz 18 күн бұрын
prepared for all the Sol stans to find every excuse for his actions
@manuelluna5150
@manuelluna5150 18 күн бұрын
180 mill and we get this crap and y’all need to stop doing the writers job with all these forms of coping with this trash ass story 😂 bag or not I’d never defend this in a million years.
@emuman09
@emuman09 18 күн бұрын
" we will for no reason lie to the councel about what happend even though its completely the witches fault"
@XionDarkblood13
@XionDarkblood13 18 күн бұрын
The problem this show has, I think, is it feels like it’s being translated to English and context is being lost in translation. Torbin, as other people have noted, definitely seems like the intent wasn’t him being “homesick” but felt like his potential and abilities were being wasted and he wanted to do something more exciting than collecting samples. The visual storytelling was there telling that but the dialogue was saying something else. If the witch was offering him a chance to leave and go on a grand adventure where his praises were being sung, that would fit that scene way better. I like that the Jedi weren’t portrayed as completely at fault. Yes, they were at fault. They let their preconceived ideas of the witches guide their narrative of what was going on. However, you can see why they would jump to these conclusions. It’s still really bad but it wasn’t just “Jedi superiority complex”. I don’t think Indara knew that freeing Kelnaka would kill the coven. And even with sol killing the witch leader, it was understandable that he felt it was an attack. Yeah, it sucked. It was awful but it was understandable. I like that. Again, a lot of this feels like the script or story was written in another language and translated to English. The whole series is held back by the weird dialogue. The visuals tell a kinda different story than what is being said. It’s like the show was made and released in Japan or something and someone fan dubbed the dialogue but didn’t quite understand how to translate it to English for the voice actors to convey what is actually going on. Like, originally torbin wanted to go back to the criminal underbelly of coruscant and him being a Jedi with the context of the way it was said in the original language would be like a cop complaining about being assigned to a podunk town with no crime. However, literally translating it to English is just “I want to go back to coruscant”.
@andrewkarns5502
@andrewkarns5502 18 күн бұрын
I’ve been pretty disappointed with the show overall, although I thought episodes 5 & 6 were alright….. but…. This episode effin sucks dude. Holy smokes. This one was right on par with the Vespa crew episode in Book of Boba Fett 😂 💩
@RetroBailey
@RetroBailey 18 күн бұрын
God this show hasn't missed for me, it has its flaws but they are such minor points of each episode that it really dosent effect my viewing experience and so far the answers to the mysteries have been super satisfying. I only fear now that we have only one episode left with so much to understand namely the creation of the twins and the sith aspect of everything
@ujamaa4
@ujamaa4 18 күн бұрын
That Mickey Mouse imposing was a little too spot on lol
@roycelewis7975
@roycelewis7975 13 күн бұрын
So in conclusion, the Jedi have the moral high ground.
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