Riot: "Abilities don't kill." Also Rito: makes an agent whose abilities are literally guns

Community: Give us an agent so Jett isn't picked 100% Riot: Yes Community: WTF

Valorant had an OP meta for a while in its first year.... and they did what they could to get away from that. BUT then they created a character specifically FOR the OP meta. Time really is just a flat circle.

The problem with chamber is that you can't really nerf him in a way that won't make him unplayable. The whole nature of his kit is to get the aggressive pick and lock down sites by just denying angles. If you nerf that aspect then chamber is just a roleless agent.

Chambers ult voiceline "If you want to play lets play" was the scariest shit back then when he wasnt nerfed

"Chamber is the most overpowered agent Valorant has ever seen" Procides to show 3 clips with chambers abilities and 7000 clips of a pro player spraying down 5 people with a vandal

I feel like we should be asking Riot to make the other sentinels better again

Even though chamber is OP, I think he helped make the meta more creative in a way. Since teams didn’t need Jett to OP anymore they could use different duelists, initiators, etc

The crazy thing is that he's really only overpowered if you are good. If you have bad aim, I would recommend literally any other character

Trademark is way more op than people realize on most maps if you have two it’s almost impossible to be flanked. The most op thing about chamber is even if he loses a round and can’t buy he still has insane kill potential between his sheriff and ultimate.

He's still strong after the nerf, lets see what happen to this agent in the future.

Calling the ult a free OP feels wrong lol, it completely shits on the OP.

They need to give rendezvous a significant arm time otherwise he is just old Jett but requiring one extra brain cell.

The nerfs on Chamber are reasonable and well deserved, however, the problem I still see in the sentinel role is that he lacks competition for the role. Sure Chamber got nerfed but he is still way more powerful than the other 3, they need to buff especially Cypher to be able to challenge Chamber for the sentinels role.

The moment I saw someone pick Chamber in spike rush, I knew he gonna try hard

What Riot did was not nerf it was injustice for chamber and chamber mains

"Chamber is the most overpowered agent Valorant has ever seen." its like we suddenly forgot how broken astra was.

The nerfs are enough for him to be taken off the role as a sentinel on certain maps which is good, but he is still debatably better then other sentinels on most if not all maps. Me being a killjoy main still feel like it's hard to do anything against chamber if hes played well and his alarm bot is placed correctly, as it doesn't have a range for it to be active while also having a huge radius of detection. ik that is similar to cypher trips but the trips can only be placed in between walls and u have to walk into them. Personally I feel other sentinel need a slight buff so they see more play or become more viable as cypher just isnt and while I make kj work on all maps it's just not great watching my kit not do anything other then my turret because the radius is to small or just to easy to be worked around.

Imagine a cypher buff where if he uses his ult his ultilities would be invisible for 15 secs (nobody could see it even if they’re near it) then he gets a 3rd tripwire, 3rd smoke, and be able to retrieve the camera anywhere and place it again without cool down.

I always thought it was weird they nerfed Jet's quick dash from awping, but not Chamber's.

Astra, Jett and Raze were also OP at some point. I think Chamber has been nerfed well enough that he is no longer a must-pick. In low elo, nobody can aim well enough to play him. In high elo, teams can clear him with utility. It is kinda annoying how he can hold such aggressive off angles and not be punished sometimes though. I think if you nerf rendezvous any more, they might as well change it into a different ability. Something that can help with rotation, maybe increase range to reduce the tp speed, etc.

I always find it so odd about these "op agents/characters/champions or whatever" and some of the clips just show some gameplay that isnt even related to the problem (like the phantom clip @ 0:24 ). This happens every time :D edit: also 3:30

Everyone talking how op chamber is: Remember every op character has a counter "*Kay/o ults*"

Who else is watching this after Chambers nerf in 5.12

chamber mains after laughing and saying: "this is too fun!" after watching this video (also pls buff cypher)

You forgot to mention that a certain agent does exist that can counter chamber with his ult and other ability perfect aswell weaken his nearby comrades and that agent is called kay0.

From overpowered to troll pick...

"Chamber is the most overpowered agent Valorant has ever seen." It seems like almost everyone forgot about beta sage

I feel like a lot of sentinels got nerfed for a reason, their kits were just too oppressive. I'm not sure if the nerfs were too harsh tho

Chamber was undoubtedly broken, however I think the one thing he accomplished was showcase how desperately the other sentinels need buffs. Even after these most recent nerfs, while chamber will hopefully be less op, I'm predicting he'll still be the most dominant sentinel. I'm also willing to bet that Riot will see that he's still the most played sentinel and decide to nerf him again instead of buffing the other sentinels.

"This guy has a fuckin marshall as an ultimate" God I wish he was right

Half of the clips are just Pro players having a crisp aim and game sense lol

Make another video on "The Game that ruined Chamber"

I think for me just personally in general for Valorant and I'm looking at Jet and Chamber specifically, is just that you don't get punished for missing shots or not clicking fast enough, even if the enemy knows what they're doing. There's almost no risk for wide swinging, aggressive operator (and Chamber's "operator" as well) plays because Rendevouz and Dash are like second chance you can use every single game it feels, and it eliminates any risk of aggro plays whatsoever

I like hoow the OPTC yay clips they showed didn't even include anything about Chamber's kit, it was just yay being yay

god it must be a massive pain to balance this game. its one thing to balance all of the guns but you also have to balance the characters and their individual abilities. any change could cascade into bigger problems down the road.

They are gonna nerf him again for sure. He is still super strong and playing him feels like not much has changed (just takes about a game to get used to the smaller tp radius). I can totally see riot giving in and making his tp slower, similar to that of Yoru, perhaps.

Chamber reminds me of Gibraltar in apex in the sense of YOU HAD TO PICK HIM in the highest lvl of play and Respawn (the devs) didn't want to nerf him because he allowed your team to make mistakes and be safe

It was a really bad idea from Riot to nerf Chamber so hard into the ground. Yes his tp was busted AND he WAS a Sentinel pre nerf. If you heard him ult you instantly knew not to peek him. His entire strength as a sentinel was to deny any entry for a specific site by playing aggressive and he needed aim. You could've still killed him if he missed or use Utility against him like every othet agent. Now we are in this stupid Jett + OP Meta again, where she kills one, dashes out to peek again, kills another one and dashes out again

watching this in december 2022 hits different...

I miss him..

I think Chamber is still a pretty good agent, but with these nerds I feel there is an obvious skill gap there. You have to be aware of your tp radius and value your sherif shots, and the fact that it can’t one shot leg anymore means you have to be a bit more precise.

People : OH NO CHAMBER IS THE MOST BROKEN AGENT IN VAL HISTORY Astra before patch 4.04: *let me introduce myself*

I remember how strong Killjoy was on release and she was so much fun to play but the range thing kinda defeats her purpose of being able to lockdown two sites

Creates his own weapons, can one-shot you from afar and is a menace to play against. Nope, it's not Aphelios. Its actually Chamber.

The deagle pull out time needs to be increased he has an operator he shoots he misses you peak u get one tapped

His best possible nerf is to have his ult shoot and feel exactly like an Operator and make it more of an eco saver. I'm not even a Chamber main but I pop off with his ult and the multi kill potential it has is just insane. This is his best balance scenario to make him a real sentinel: 1. Bring back 2 trademarks but have an AOE similar to KJ. Trademark is actually an OP anti flank honestly. 2. Tour de Force retains having 8 points but give it a heavier feel and not shoot like a one shot marshal 3. Retain the rendezvous limited range

A quick nerf for him is to make it so that if one of his anchor is destroyed, it would never work again for the entire round so we could atleast retaliate when chamber dipped out. Also, he should be unable to quickly pick up his anchors after use, like maybe 5 seconds so they could destroy his anchor and completely neutralize one of his kit

The one thing they would have to nerf can’t be nerfed without removing him from the game. Maybe set the E cast range to close to nothing so he can only play off-angles any other agent can

**laughs in csgo**

To truly make chamber a sentinel, they should made his signature ability to do the same as trademark to either lockdown a site or gather intel instead of a teleport anchor

nerf? they killed him. from one of the highest rated pick to lowest.

now valorant ruined him hahahaha

I completely disagree that he was the most broken because astra, but he was dummy op.

I can already see this game going down the same path as my once beloved R6 Siege. Releasing overpowered characters as incentive for purchase, then half heartedly attempting to nerf them, but only after everyone has either bought or earned them. Even the newest agent harbor, while I dont really find him overpowered, still gives me similar vibes. He is basically just an amalgamation of existing agents, only slightly better.. Im afraid its only downhill from here. They might release an agent that mixes up the meta in the right way, but those agents will be few & far between. Prove me wrong riot

"chamber is the most OP agent valorant has ever seen" old astra: do I look like a joke to you

nooooo, chambers not broken, riot gaming company would never make any character in any game that would be game breaking, no wayyyy, i mean just look at league all of the characters are-

1yaer later valorant ruined him

i am here in 2023 still waiting for some buffs 😇

*the op exists and is OP asf* valorant team: lets make an agent that gets one all the time for free, that'll go fine.

They should have kept his badass original name "Deadeye" that truely reflects how terrorizing this agent is....

Watching this after they nerfed him again in 5.12

You can hotkey switching to your deagle every time you fire, and if you have a marshal you can basically fire twice. It’s almost as effective as an op. You just have to change things when you have another gun.

There's already a nerf to that agent infact there's a nerf to every agent "U are powerless"

They need to nerf his movement speed with his OP and Pistol. Make it so he’s forced to hold angles, not run around like he’s playing CoD

What’s funny is Reyna’s pick and win rate in ranked 😂😂

the rendezvous isnt always a get out of jail card. sometimes you can tp away and still somehow die

plz just rebuff his trips thats all i want man PLEASE

Isn't it something you say about almost every Valorant agent? xD

If i had a nickel for every time they ruined Valorant, i could probably buy a PC to run Valorant

so kill the teleports? I mean it seems to be the main problem. Make them require two kills, have a very long cool down or straight up replace them with something more sentinel-y

I think the most fair nerf would be to add reloading every 2 shots. like a long operator reload or something then do the same for his pistol. every 4 bullets reload

What makes him a sentinel, was the slow on his ulti, his trademark, and his tp's. Now his tp is strong, its not as strong as old jett dash. As the set up locks you to 1 area. Which is why he is a sentinal. Where as jett is a duelist because she could run freely holding her dash for when she needed it. But then they gutted jett dash, which is why it is not seen as much and chamber is. This in regards of the op meta. Now, the problem comes to his pistol I feel. It is almost as strong as jett knives. Which is an ultimate ability. Which you have every round. People call it a free guardian. But it is better in every way except ammo. Its a pistol, so you run faster with it. It pulls out quicker than the guardian. Similar aim, same adc. But also has quicker recoil reset, and a quicker animation for shot, so can double tap it quicker also. This just becomes more broken the better your aim is. Chamber has not ruined the game, but his pistol is overtuned. I feel his ulti is not overpowered. It is an ultimate. Sage res unlocks someone's full abilities kit of an agent. K/O stops all abilities being used in that area for a decent amount of time. Viper pit making you run around 1hp when trying to find her. They are all over powered, thats what makes them ultimates. In my ranked, if we vs eco and chamber pops ulti, its like, lets take all the shorter ranged routes as he is less likely to hold them. If we find him, we rotate and run over his team who has nothing. Operators will always be strong, just like they are in CS GO with the awp. Apply this with different style abilities, it will get interesting. Harder to figure out how to counter. But I do not think it is impossible to do so.

"This guy has a f*cking marshall as his ultimate!" HAHAHAHAHA

CSGO: Are ya winning son?

as a cs:go awper , chamber is everything we wanted.

People saying his TP has to be delayed or it has to be nerfed similarly like Jett are just dumb. Jett was nerfed that way because her dash was always supposed to an aggressive site entry but it was such a simple dash that it became extremely good for OPing, holding angles and just get away with braindead plays. Jett was giving so much value on defence rounds for a duelist agent. Now coming to TP delay, this will completely kill the character. Jett unintentionally turned into this but Chamber was intentionally designed to be the defender that will punish you for peeking without thinking too much or without clearing or jumping peeking him. Adding TP delay will make him as good as Yoru in Oping. Have you ever seen Yoru being a viable Opper in good ranks? Me neither. Now people saying he needed two trips: If he gets two trips and has an Operator in his hands, he is nothing but a way better Cypher, there will be zero maps where Cypher can atleast stand toe to toe with Chamber. And if they had nerfed everything else and kept two traps, then it would've been vice versa ie he would end up being a cheaper version of Cypher with lesser information and a Yoru TP that can't be sent to backside but instead has to be placed physically. They both are supposed to be different and supposed to have different identities. My proposed best nerf was always increase cooldown which they did. The other nerf I'd love to see is them rewarding aim. Maybe 2 bullets in ultimate and get 2 back on every kill? Maybe also have a timer for the Ultimate so that it won't be this broken in save rounds etc or atleast the enemy team can have some amounts of counter play? I really loved the idea that destorying the teleport gives more cooldown now, maybe increase the destroying cooldown more so that Chambers will have to think even more?

The only rework i can think for him is that he originally starts with 2 bullets in his sniper and for every kill he gets with it up to the limit of 5 he obtains another bullet but if he does not then he loses the bullet which would change his playstyle to anchor more than play as a duelist.

The clip in which he oped and then hunted the head in 1 second is the most broken thing ever

There's one place where jett beats chamber: entrying. When chamber somehow doesnt have an awp, he is not as good as jett. While chamber needs quite a bit of prep for his mobility, jett can activate before a peek and then dash when she does. Jett has overall a much better kit for entrying than chamber. Also chamber can only get 5 bullets in pistol, making it not as good of an investment now.

i feel like this exact problem with agents and how they are built will eventually become a big problem for the game. imagine the types of agents and abilities we will have years down the line. i feel like chamber was just the tip of the iceberg. look at games like overwatch, league, and r6 as examples. sure they are very different than valorant, but the same principles apply. agent power creep and riots strive for innovation will put the game in a weird spot in a few years.

Chamber's new ultimate weapon: -Marshal damage stats -Fire rate slightly increased -Fixed 3x zoom -100% hipfire accuracy when still -8 bullets -100% penetration -Enemies hit suffer nearsighted and concussed for 0.5s -When ADSing, enemies heads are highlighted red -Cost 1 less ult point *Big overall nerf,* taking away instakill potential and no longer being able to use it like a shotgun, but still really strong at range in 1v1s. Well placed headshots will still instakill through walls. Very good change if you are a skilled Marshal player. Amazing for ecos.

"Te AgEnt THaT rUinEd VaLulRaNt 🤓"

For the people saying he's a duelist, as a Chamber main, I feel handicapped on chamber when I'm on attack in MOST situations. Not ALL but MOST. Chambers TP has no FORWARD movement potential opposed to maybe a Yoru that can send his TP in a specific direction without taking that space. If Chamber has a TP somewhere, that means he or his team has already TAKEN that space. He can't make space, but he can get picks (in attacker spawn lol). Chamber can't do what duelists do. With a Raze or Jett, you have a lot more in your kit to entry (cause you're a duelist lmfao) If I wanted to do the same thing as Jett or Raze, I'd have to literally run all the way up ex. B Long on Icebox (meaning I already took that space with my team and was safe enough to take the time to SET UP MY ABILITY). I wouldn't be able to do this alone while leading my team (entrying) cause my kit simply isn't built for it (I'll explain why shortly). I'd need team support, and I'd need someone on the frontlines for me. Entrying is a duelists/flexible initiators job. I've told you I would need help or space to set up my TP in an effective spot to get value, so I should probably tell you why I believe/think this. First though, let's talk about this key mechanic of Chamber's kit. If I were to have my TP down, and was in need of using it, I would (cause who wouldn't?). The thing with how is TP works is, I can only TP to places my team has TAKEN CONTROL OF (the whole basis of my argument lol). If anything, he's the opposite of a duelist because in this scenario I'm TPing BACKWARDS, and GIVING UP SPACE (the opposite of a duelist!). It's not like I can just throw a smoke down and dash forward into it and create space (the job of a duelist.. ex. Jett) Now onto why Chambers kit isn't built to entry frag. If I were to try and play Chamber like Jett and actually ENTRY on let's say B Long on Icebox AGAIN (Haven A and C Long Work Too), I'd have to lead my whole team, be at the front of the pack (like a duelist is supposed to be) and run all the way up B Long and somehow find the time to tuck away my gun, set up my TP, and pull out my gun again to maybe get some shots off. Once again, this is all happening while my whole team is behind me waiting and expecting me to do something (cause I'm the entry fragging duelist that everyone says I am, right!?!). The biggest thing we need to understand as players is, Chamber players HAVE to SET UP their ability to get any value out of it. Moving on, if you're still not convinced, let's say I survive doing a whole ass set up while entrying for my team simultaneously (very unlikely). This means I don't get shot up while full sprinting toward site while spending some of that time running while setting my TP up (the equivalent of holding a KNIFE out cause I can't fight back with a TP in my hands!). Once again, even if it all works out, and I make it on site, I'll do the opposite of a duelists job. I'll end up placing my TP just outside main (B Yellow on Icebox) and another one deeper into B Long that I can fallback onto. When I use teleport, I'm still falling back and GIVING UP SPACE (the opposite of a duelist). No matter the way you phrase it, he's not a duelist. What I have to do to entry has NO resemblance to a duelist, and it's nowhere NEAR as effective even if it does work out (rarely does). Chamber is NOT a duelist. Viewing him as one is honestly one of the dumbest perspectives I've ever heard. A Chamber entrying is as handicapped as a Jett that for some reason HAS to hold a knife while preparing its dash and running down a long sightline. The reason I say Jett would have to hold her knife out is because Jett prepping her dash, and Chamber finding a place to place his TP is a very similar situation, except for one key thing. Chamber has to tuck away his weapon, place down a teleport, and then teleport BACKWARDS. Jett can just prep her dash, keep her weapon out and dash freely whenever and wherever she sees fit. Moving on, when I do get on site, THAT'S where I can do some work! When we're on site, and we've taken space! I can set up my TP, maybe place a trip CT or near bomb for free intel/stall if it's not already flank. He provides the same/similar things as/to a sentinel, just with some extra spice. Sentinels are post plant, flank watching, stalling agents. Also, you can read this if you want to, just strengthens more of why Chamber isn't built for entry, but I believe I've already said enough for most to agree. If you're one of the few that don't, here you are: There's a lot of spots in the map that you have to place your TP AFTER the spawn barriers go down to get any IMMEDIATE value. You can't have setups like when you're on defense (the job of a sentinel! I know, crazy!). Whenever you have to place your TP down after spawn barriers come down to go for a peak, any enemies that are remotely close can hear you doing that. You essentially instantly throw the other team intel on WHERE you are, and WHO you are. Chambers TP is literally a circle with only so much radius (it's even smaller now). That's why you have to again TAKE SOME SPACE, and then place it in a place you can actually peak from to get any immediate value. For example, look at the attacker side spawn barriers when pushing A Hall on Fracture. If you want to use your TP to try and go for a quick peak and get a pick there, you can't just place it in your spawn area. You have to move up, take the entrance of the site, then place it down, and THEN get some shots off. As mentioned before, this results in the enemy team pinpointing exactly where you are, and who you are (if they have half a brain) Think about a defending Chamber. He can just do a set up, in the buy phase, and the attackers definitely can't hear that. He's a Sentinel. A defensive sided agent. Period. Side Note: He's definitely an oppressive agent on defense. I agree there 100%. Isn't that his job though? He's a Sentinel. The only decent Sentinel!

I think it's amazing how pros can easily become cryababies with their pacifiers to the point where they're begging for Riot to nerf Chamber. He was in a good place before the nerfs. These pros were mad that they keep getting killed. Just get good. That on you if you just suck. Gosh.

The traps were the only thing that made chamber a sentinel and they reduced it to 1 😂.

I’ve seen a lot of people buying ghost or shorty round 1 on chamber now that you can’t even get 5 bullets with the trip.

Hot take: Chamber wasn't problematic at all.

I really do feel like riot is doing the right thing by not touching the other sentinels they might not be sure what to do with chamber exactly but if they start buffing every agent in a role when a new "OP" agent is added valorant will become overwatch in 5 years its funny powercreep comes from this problem exactly we ask for it and then we hate it.

Controversial Opinion: Chamber needs to be buffed again after 5.12. Hear me out, just restore his 2 trademarks or 1 with infinite range. Giving him the 2nd tps would just be too OP.

valorant saying "abilities don't kill" then go fuck it give an agent a free operator/marshal combo as ultimate, and while you're at it a sheriff but better as regular ability

chamber helped me a lot, he helped me to get from Unrated to Iron 2, I can never help him enough

I still stand by the statement of "Pro players may play the game a lot but they shouldn't be balancing it" the only reason why chamber was picked so much is because every other agent was "Nerfed because of Pro players" jett was Nerfed, Kj was Nerfed, astra was Nerfed, raze was Nerfed. All these nerfed agents would be built to deal with chamber, if they weren't nerfed because of Pro players

Meanwhile me: Gets headhunter Misses half of my shots and only tagged one dude Gets the tour de force (the free op) Misses all of my shots and then my team shits on me. Never again

I kinda wish riot had done a bit more of an Astra approach with Chamber. Nerfing him but also buffing his counterparts. I think especially cypher and even killjoy need buffs to bring their power level up. Does anyone even still remember how bad Brim and Omen were!?!? Sure Astra wasn't played that much in ranked because her skill floor was very high but brimstone and omen were still quite bad and you could feel it in the middle/high ranks. I definitely think chamber was released overturned but right now a lot of his value REQUIRES intense aim skill and correct decision making. I think they should start aiming for lowering his peak value at higher skill levels or simply buffing alternative agents.

He rarely felt oppressive in gold, plat elo before the nerfs, even when it was a good chamber main, hitting shots. The only thing annoying was his tp cooldown being low and thus hard to punish. I think people are over reacting quite a bit with this "looking back" type of analysis Edit: to this day, every chamber is broken video this channel puts out is just a chamber hitting good shots and rarely has anything to do with his kit. If this is your argument then show us him using his TP or trip which were genuinely opressive

Agent : Is fun to play Riot : This agent RUINED valorant

Seems like an situation like Overwatch with brig

So we not gonna talk about the neon free ace ult huh

Chamber's sheriff / ult - Jett's Ult make SPIKE RUSH not as fun when everyone has shorties, and then you just get shot in the face from across the map. I don't know why Riot doesn't take this into account because its breaks that game mode.