The Agony of Eros by Byung-Chul Han

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Davood Gozli

Davood Gozli

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Thoughts on 'The Agony of Eros' by Byung-Chul Han. Translated by Erik Butler. Cambridge, MA: MIT Press, 2017.
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@O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel
@O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel Жыл бұрын
Your series on Mr. Han has been phenomenal-I know of none better. “The blindness of love” is indeed something we are losing today, which is for us to lose love. Love must pull us out of our ego, but what our ego sees it incorporates, so “the blindness of love” is necessary for it to correct and balance the ego. You described all this very well, and indeed the gift of the other is the loss of the self.
@DavoodGozli
@DavoodGozli Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your encouraging and sympathetic words, my friend. It is, indeed, the (necessity of) a kind of blindness that we are losing. You have made the connection explicit with Han's critique of the society of transparency. One path for exploring this is, as you have done so well, is Tanizaki's _In Praise of Shadows_ which has been on my mind these days thanks to your discussions of it.
@O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel
@O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel Жыл бұрын
@@DavoodGozli You’re awesome Davood, and I think Han’s work connects very well together, with his work on “transparency” fitting together with his work here on “eros”-I always appreciate a thinker who maintains a thread. And I agree this fits with Tanizaki! Hans is describing a certain “conditionalism” we must meet for love to occur (as I like to call it), and in creating lists and expectations in romance, we can make it impossible to meet those conditions. As a result, we can go through the motions of love, but love will not shine through.
@peterlimberg1
@peterlimberg1 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. I paused mid-way to reflect on this insight that arose while watching: me thinking that I know those who I love is freezing them in time. It is holding them back. It is holding us back. Thank you, my friend. :)
@treasuretshabalala132
@treasuretshabalala132 6 ай бұрын
A beautiful and comprehesive interpretation of Byung Chul Han's work. I haven't read The Agony of Eros; to be quite honest I find Han's work a bit too complex to wrap my head around, but he has such profound and important things to say, that I just can't let him go without hearing what he has to say. I look forward to delving into the book now. Thank you for your analysis and summary.
@DavoodGozli
@DavoodGozli 6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much - glad you liked my review!
@firmament722
@firmament722 Жыл бұрын
The crossover of one of my favourite psychologists (you) and philosophers (Han)? Yes! (and no, I do not speak of "favourite" as an a prior concept, but more so as the leap of faith of believing you two as the exciting intellectual horizons that are unknown to any of my previous narratives)
@DavoodGozli
@DavoodGozli Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very kind compliment and for making it even more delightful with your clarification of how you use the word 'favourite'!
@GreenerSideOfSam
@GreenerSideOfSam Жыл бұрын
I’m not always good at commenting on videos but I just want to let you know that you read some of the most interesting books and always have great recommendations 😊
@O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel
@O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel Жыл бұрын
Sam, great to see you here! Indeed, Davood is amazing and has outstanding tastes.
@DavoodGozli
@DavoodGozli Жыл бұрын
Hi Sam! I likewise enjoy your videos - and audios - and I share your feelings about not being good at commenting, and it means a lot to me that you did. Thank you!
@ThunderstormingLove
@ThunderstormingLove Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing! I just finished the agony of Eros and was looking around KZfaq for videos to help my understanding. Great and concise summary!!
@michellegarner632
@michellegarner632 Жыл бұрын
Davood! What a wonderful video. I absolutely appreciated what you shared! I love thinking about the word play of blind to love vs love is blind…maybe a poem will have to be written . Thank you again so much Davood, I so enjoyed learning from you!
@DavoodGozli
@DavoodGozli Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Michelle!
@ErifilyNikola
@ErifilyNikola Жыл бұрын
I love your videos! Still waiting for my copy of the burnout society to come from abroad! Congrats for your channel! It's great to find this kind of content available and not just makeup videos .. :)
@DavoodGozli
@DavoodGozli Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Hope 'The Burnout Society' reaches you safely. It is, in my view, the best place to begin reading Han.
@chrisschuck8812
@chrisschuck8812 Жыл бұрын
Such a wonderful video, and I don't think it's ironic to say, one with a spirit of love behind it. Perhaps in small part this is because, while you know many of us individually, you are also addressing an audience whom you cannot presume to fully know? This might be a misappropriation what Han was getting at, but I like that image. Listening to your review, I found myself thinking of how our society tends to bifurcate or even trifurcate love into opposing types: the idealized, passionate romantic love, and the gentler, platonic love of friendship (and then maybe love of family as another non-romantic type). But of course there are so many others too. Cornell West's famous definition of justice as "what love looks like in public" comes to mind. Yet we throw around the term "love" indiscriminately to apply to all of them, even while making arbitrary divisions. The point about love challenging our assumptions of control and agency seems really key. Iris Murdoch has written about the "unselfing" aspect of love, which seems connected with this a little (even if it might not speak to the loss of control within ourselves). But it's counterintuitive, because so much of what we associate with "love" is precisely that sense that we have come to know someone so intimately, that it's impossible not to love them with all their flaws. Maybe love as Han envisions it has to do with being able to hold both the intimately knowing and the not entirely knowing at the same time, together? The Richard Linklater "Before" trilogy and especially the final one, Before Midnight, comes to mind as a film that problematizes naive assumptions about what love is.
@_kiri.zip_901
@_kiri.zip_901 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful reflection, thank you so much Davood
@DavoodGozli
@DavoodGozli Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment! I'm glad you liked the video and hope you enjoy the book. I'm still working my way through 'In the Swarm.'
@ben_evans
@ben_evans Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent video. I've enjoyed all your recent videos and really hope they keep coming. These ideas reminded me of that thing Jesus said "For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it." We lose our life for the sake of the other and then that's paradoxically where we find it. And it also makes me think of Gabriel Marcel's work. Particularly Creative Fidelity and the idea that love and fidelity in love is a creative act, the other person is not something to hold tightly but is a partner in this 'narative', as you say, we create experiences/life etc. together. Also dialogic in the Buber sense. I always think to comment on your videos but get around to it. Just wanted to share these thoughts I had and say thanks
@DavoodGozli
@DavoodGozli Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ben! I appreciate your insight - connecting Marcel and Buber with Han. I haven't spent as much time with Buber as my good friend Javier Rivera has, but I have read and loved some of Marcel's work. Han's unique advantage is in lightness. He is a gentle, seemingly undemanding companion, whom you can take on the bus/subway ride to and back from work, on the few minutes before falling asleep. And yet, despite the absence of overt demands, he is radical and revolutionary.
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