Très intéressant cet avion! Quel est le nom de votre club? Je cherche à l'essayer aussi !

@@tasogare728 it's the Aeroclub Jean Bertin at Chavenay (LFPX). However i think we'll only be able to try them at the end of the summer, they have to form the instructors on the plane and all beforehand.

@@JohnSmith-nh9pm Amazing! Anytime this year is great, I will come to see you guys in fall ;)

I can’t wait to see liquid piston offer that engine to the public at a decent price

NO. KHÔNG RÁP CHÂN VÀO PLANE

VỊ TRÍ : FE. CAO : 10.000 VND. CHÂN của PLANE and SPIN

Icon A5 have one very similar as well! It’s crazy how it works when you fly it…

no kit

6'4" is most likely the limit of real comfort in the cockpit. Payload with full fuel is about 500lbs in the 915

I agree. Using DFM to reduce part count and nearly eliminate assembly seems like a potentially compelling idea.

There's something to be said for the avionics package though, and the fact that this is part 23, not LSA

@@srqamt but part 23 shouldn't really cost anything on such a plane, I figure it's more an attempt to justify the very high price. And what does it really give you? technically the passenger can be a paying customer? but how big is that usage and again, shouldn't cost anything. It's a one time cost for them and for this small plane with modest part count, possibly a modest expense. Didn't involve FAA if it's just a transferred approval from EASA. And the 100 grand difference between 912 and 915 version. Avionics probably can't explain that.

@@DanFrederiksen the certificate and the process is very expensive, and flight schools could use the hell out of this thing, no? Imagine buying a fleet of these and cutting your maintenance and fuel costs in half, versus scouring the internet for warriors and skyhawks with less than 6000 hours on the airframe. The avionics alone in the 915 in worth 150k installed.

@@srqamt I don't know if normal LSAs can also be used for flight schools, they can be used to build hours for PPL afaik. but again it would be a technicality they use to justify the high price, not real merit. And it is especially poignant given the construction method is touted to be cost effective. they are the enemy of progress this way. While claiming progress.

NO. KHÔNG CHÂN. PLANE and SPIN ?

How about your French??

@@panibodo ?

You'd be surprised. This one will be more affordable than equivalent competition. The price of a sports car probably

@@CyrilDeretz they said it's over a hundred thousand dollars.

13:06 He literally said 235k euros for the 100hp one (the green one next to this one) and 300-400k euros for the one being shown. Did you guys even pay attention?

@@MikeHawkHurtz Right, and 235ke = $240,814. Which goes to 280z's comment of being more than $100k. What part of that did you not get?

Don’t forget engine is a rotax. 400000€/ Rotax, weird.

A used, but comparable 2016 CIRRUS SR22T-G5 GTS will be between $800,000 to $1,000,000 US. So these planes are indeed a bargain.

@@rossiFandallas Your correct, just took a look. Not a surprise the aviation community is getting smaller and smaller and older and older. Only old money can afford these planes. You'd think someone would manufacture an affordable non-experimental plane for the average Joe... but I guess that's not where the money is at. Guess if you're not raking in the dough your stuck with the 1964 150 with 12000 total hours.

@@Recklessness97 It's called Liability Insurance. Lawsuits killed light, general aviation in the U.S. Resale prices of older light aircraft is all supply and demand.

@@EJWash57 I just read an interesting article about the decline of general aviation and how liability insurance played a role among other things. It makes sense, thanks for bring it up :). Yes, I can see why old but maintained aircraft hold value.

@@Recklessness97 Trust me, I agree with you. I have no idea how the average wage-earner can afford to learn how to fly, let alone buy and maintain an airplane. I'm fortunate to have my "air-knocker" ('75 Decathlon). I'm going Experimental because it's the only way to afford a new airframe with modern avionics, and cross-country performance.

The Vans RV-12 and the Elixir are not remotely equivalent aircraft. The Vans RV-12 is 'Experimental' and you have to spend a lot of your time riveting bits of aluminium together yourself. The Elixir is a 'Certified' aircraft and one of a very small handful to be certified this century because certification takes a lot of time and expense. The Elixir 912 started with a price of €150,000, with the Rotax 912iS but the cost of certification increased that to €235,000 and has a cruise speed of 125 KTAS, is intended for clubs and training. The Elixir 915 has the turbocharged 915iS engine, has a cruise speed of 160 KTAS, and is intended for touring ie getting 2 people from A to B. That speed is comparable to a Beechcraft Bonanza, but burning half the fuel, and it is in a whole different performance category compared to the Vans RV-12 which only has a 100 KTAS cruise. If you compare the Elixir to a Diamond DA-40, which costs about $500,000 new, the Elixir is lighter, faster, more efficient and cheaper. If you compare the Elixir to a Cessna 172 Skyhawk, which costs up to $438,000 new, the Elixir is much lighter, much faster, much more efficient and probably will be a little bit cheaper. The better comparison is with other European UltraLight aircraft like the SEA Risen, BlackWing and VL3 which have retractable gear, much more performance of 200 plus KTAS and a lower price than the Elixir 915 and less than half the purchase price and running cost of a Cirrus SR22. The unique selling point of the Elixir is the one-shot manufacturing process that allows an entire wing to be moulded in one piece without separate spars and ribs, which should have resulted in a lower cost, however, disappointingly, this does not appear to be reflected in the selling price.

@@PhilipFly11 Sorry, but all those words just don't add up to the additional $200K over the RV-12. And, you compared a 2-seater to three 4-seat aircraft?

Addition: Van's offers the RV-12 either ready to fly (factory built) at that $129K price tag, or as a kit. So no, you're wrong, you do not have to spend the time building the airplane yourself.

Lmao bro chill no need to get triggered in the comments. What are you trying to say anyway (not the translate, the point of this spam)