The 'alarming' responses to Russell Brand allegations

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9 ай бұрын

"Alice, alleges that Brand was sexually and emotionally abusive towards her when she was just 16...Nadia, alleges that she was raped by Brand."
Emma Pinchbeck & Josh Glancy discuss "alarming" responses to allegations against Russell Brand in The Times and Sunday Times.
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@dailyhunter3683
@dailyhunter3683 9 ай бұрын
It's not alarming. The people are simply fed up with trial by media.
@gh8447
@gh8447 9 ай бұрын
Well, it's exactly the trial by media that is alarming!
@mrkeogh
@mrkeogh 9 ай бұрын
I'd assume RB will have no problem with a police investigation, then? Seems he should be going to them and getting everything on record if these claims are false, no?
@tubecated_development
@tubecated_development 9 ай бұрын
Is truth lies, are lies truth? Who knows? Who trusts anyone? Who even trusts the facts when people tell us that the facts aren’t even told? Who joins the dots, who lays the crumbs? Who waves their hands around while asking these important questions? Who gets wealthy beyond the dreams of their adoring fans by planting these thoughts into their willing minds? We may never know, because our own minds are coerced and conformed, confirmed and compounded by the endless stream of meeeeeeeeeeeeja. Pretend YOUR meeeeeeeeja ain’t THEIR meeeeeeeeeja. There’s got to be sum meeeeeeja who is telling the truth, innit?
@gertstronkhorst2343
@gertstronkhorst2343 9 ай бұрын
@@mrkeogh You'd think so, wouldn't you? Unless there's actual truth to the allegations.
@WildwoodCastle
@WildwoodCastle 9 ай бұрын
Amything you say can and will be used against you... No lawyer would advise his client to volunteer anything not required... @@mrkeogh
@euanmacleod3738
@euanmacleod3738 9 ай бұрын
Imagine being alarmed that people want to reserve judgement until they know more, and don't just get whipped into a frenzy by accusations printed in the media. I'm alarmed that Times Radio is comfortable framing that response as alarming.
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i 8 ай бұрын
Amen . It’s really bad journalism.
@Snowenj
@Snowenj 8 ай бұрын
No one's alarmed by people reserving their judgement, they're alarmed by the lamebrains claiming it's all a "hit piece" and a witch hunt because of the popularity of his conspiracy videos.
@Doobie603
@Doobie603 8 ай бұрын
​@majordamage4202 It is though.
@Doobie603
@Doobie603 8 ай бұрын
They didn't care about all this stuff until Russel started speaking about the wrong people. Wake up, Look around.
@JohnMoran
@JohnMoran 8 ай бұрын
This is about corporate intimidation, regardless of whether Brand is guilty or not.
@j_cara
@j_cara 9 ай бұрын
Malcolm X said "The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent.” Media has the power to influence minds, ideas, behaviors, and attitudes of the masses.
@fishmud3264
@fishmud3264 8 ай бұрын
Yep, and they assassinated him
@rayebel4430
@rayebel4430 8 ай бұрын
Your absolutely right Just watch how the MSM circles around the like of Epstein the royals the bidens the list is so long it’s troubling with mountains of evidence and facts with real names. Then they scream like harlots at the mere Accusations with no names or direct evidence send
@amstaylorph
@amstaylorph 8 ай бұрын
The media aren't always wrong. Actually, they often get it right.
@jonstnr
@jonstnr 8 ай бұрын
​@@amstaylorphlol no.
@rodster811
@rodster811 8 ай бұрын
​@@amstaylorphmedia gets it wrong a lot more than you would
@0verloADHD
@0verloADHD 9 ай бұрын
What I am alarmed about is the lack of sensitivity towards Russell Brands wife and Children. Do the Times not think that they are innocent in all of this and deserve more? If anyone makes a serious allegation, do they not have a duty of care to the victim to make sure that they choose the appropriate route and report it to the police, rather then print it! I find this all disturbing, there are many victims in this scenario. People are innocent until proven guilty but it seems this hasn't even been reported to the police yet. How is that justice for anyone involved?
@amstaylorph
@amstaylorph 9 ай бұрын
Actually I think my sympathies probably lie with the credible accounts of four victims.
@0verloADHD
@0verloADHD 9 ай бұрын
@@amstaylorph Currently ALLEGED! Credibility is based on your opinion only. The family members ARE innocent in this. Only a court of law can give a verdict of guilty in this land. This isn't a trial by the media, where things are cut and edited. I prefer to wait for a verdict before I assume someone is guilty. If a court decides there are enough facts to give that verdict, then my sympathies will lie with the victims. Not before then! This is nothing but conformity bias created by The Times and dispatches. If this was credible journalism, they would put both sides of the story on here so that people are given the whole picture, and not just a snapshot of something that is purely one-sided.
@shahjaa4944
@shahjaa4944 9 ай бұрын
​@amstaylorph ffs have a day off pal. Bet you still think Iraq has WMD
@philipwebb8297
@philipwebb8297 9 ай бұрын
My wife now has Alzheimers! It all kicked off just after her 2nd Covid-19 jab on 14 April 2021! And Alzheimer's cannot be cured! People are now dying because of that damn Covid-19 vaccination! All this sex stuff is all a smoke screen! That bird who's disihng out the dirt is a typical woke apparatchik! My poor wife!
@macnicolson5452
@macnicolson5452 9 ай бұрын
Ah well, they think it worked with Assange....here we go again and it will be led by a coalition of both the left and right corporate media......Channel 4 teaming up with Murdoch and The Guardian again to bring down a man who is getting too inconvenient for them.....
@AdnamsDrinker
@AdnamsDrinker 9 ай бұрын
Be honest - and in fairness I say this as no particular fan of Brand but someone who does despise the mainstream media - the only thing that alarms you is the sheer number of people in the comments that say they don’t believe you and are prepared to call out an MSM hatchet/hit job on an apostate when they see one …
@nvelsen1975
@nvelsen1975 8 ай бұрын
Condoleances with the death of another 400 of your soldiers today Sergei. Those Ukrainians really are dealing with you and yours.
@craigboden9455
@craigboden9455 8 ай бұрын
@@nvelsen1975 another brainwashed whelp who thinks everything is somehow connected to russia. go outside and touch some grass. enjoy it while you are free too, that freedom wont last long
@carmichaelk.5214
@carmichaelk.5214 8 ай бұрын
Many people, like the "journalists" in this video, have spent their entire life obediently accepting every mainstream narrative conjured up by corporate/government-sponsored media. They are absolutely terrified of the truth: that they're on the wrong side of history.
@Lyra1.618
@Lyra1.618 8 ай бұрын
EXACTLY.
@Doobie603
@Doobie603 8 ай бұрын
​@nvelsen1975 what are you on about dude? Sounds like you are talking about a war you don't understand and can't possibly understand because we are fed lies on both sides. But go ahead and root for your team like this is sports...
@stevenewbank
@stevenewbank 9 ай бұрын
He opened his mouth about Big Pharma and Vaccines.
@mrmagoozle
@mrmagoozle 9 ай бұрын
And Bingo was his name
@matthewcoombs3282
@matthewcoombs3282 9 ай бұрын
You know who rules you by who you are allowed to criticise. If I were Neil Oliver I would be very worried. They are going to be coming for him next.
@valansley
@valansley 9 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏
@garymorrison277
@garymorrison277 9 ай бұрын
And don't forget the WEF and the WHO.
@kirstieadams
@kirstieadams 9 ай бұрын
Big wow. He did it for notoriety
@Hubert_old
@Hubert_old 8 ай бұрын
Why is the accusers identity allowed to be hidden, but the accused is washed through the media without a trail. Where is the fairness and balance of justice? How can a jury and judge say honestly they haven’t seen this in the news.
@brigittescott2438
@brigittescott2438 9 ай бұрын
My brother committed suicide from false allegations he couldn’t deal with the lies. Sandy you changed your name but what you did to him… his blood is on your hands.
@gruxxx
@gruxxx 8 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry to hear about your brother. I will always stand that allegations should never be unveiled through the media unless proven.
@jimreily7538
@jimreily7538 12 күн бұрын
​@@gruxxx And what about Jimmy Saville? Tried by the media. Right ? Do you defend him too ?
@janice506
@janice506 9 ай бұрын
Why didn’t they go to the police instead of the media . IMO they hate his politics & his KZfaq channel & are trying to cancel him !
@sarahmurphy8030
@sarahmurphy8030 9 ай бұрын
££££££
@Threadbow
@Threadbow 8 ай бұрын
Ridiculous brainwashed response 🙄
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
OBSERVE how its always "I think" and "In my opinion" rather that looking at the FACTS Or at least, the numerous credible allegations here...
@trecking
@trecking 9 ай бұрын
They speak as if he's already been found guilty.....times radio is horrendous
@scotam1844
@scotam1844 9 ай бұрын
Dam right
@justinw1765
@justinw1765 9 ай бұрын
It's a shill channel apparently.
@heatrayzvideo3007
@heatrayzvideo3007 9 ай бұрын
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@heatrayzvideo3007
@heatrayzvideo3007 9 ай бұрын
​@@justinw1765or so someone told you 😅
@CrueLoaf
@CrueLoaf 9 ай бұрын
I've just has a eureka! It was the Times newspaper that got together with the TV programme Dispatches! Of course TIMES radio are going to post this trite!
@zim-zf7mq
@zim-zf7mq 9 ай бұрын
“Come and cuddle with me” and over a decade later….Come on, these allegations are suspicious.
@biggerissues6085
@biggerissues6085 4 ай бұрын
Please explain, in clear rational detail, how any if this is suspicious? How would you know? Are you knowledgeable in the way predators do and don't work?
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
When did he ask you (or whom?) to "come and cuddle with" him? There remain numerous credible allegations, from a number of women, so to whom do you refer? "Come on"=NO DATA - sorry we got used to information-free innuendo with TRUMP
@juliadixon5575
@juliadixon5575 8 ай бұрын
Russell cuddled everyone, male and female, he was a very tactile person. The media are not showing video footage of how he made everyone feel good about themselves and all the good work he did helping recovering addicts.
@mat5892
@mat5892 7 ай бұрын
Hes getting back on the smack you wait and see
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
And Adolf did WONDERS for German industry = how is this relevant to the RAPES? Savile was the our mums LOVED for all his "wonderful" Charity Work Yet crime remains crime
@mullimulli4567
@mullimulli4567 9 ай бұрын
I was the victim of 4 burglaries between 2006 and 2013 and although I didn't bother reporting them, I'm now thinking of going to the papers to get some financial justice!
@kingelvis1977d
@kingelvis1977d 9 ай бұрын
😅❤
@susanplatt5331
@susanplatt5331 9 ай бұрын
Stop being facetious.
@changelocation
@changelocation 9 ай бұрын
So true 👍
@bobbugwithoneeyeskingiskin8974
@bobbugwithoneeyeskingiskin8974 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@susanplatt5331Then stop believing/allowing evil women like Amber Hurd the power to destroy the trust between the sexes before men start to retaliate! You really wouldn’t like that to happen!
@leighsherval1023
@leighsherval1023 9 ай бұрын
None of the victims have been paid anything, this was disclosed
@gruxxx
@gruxxx 9 ай бұрын
“By very good journalists” - exactly. Go to a lawyer, go to the police. Trial by media is what’s alarming.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 9 ай бұрын
Brand is in deep sh**
@kestockbridge
@kestockbridge 9 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Brand’s name is plastered everywhere but the accusers are given anonymity! What sort of justice is that? This is why we have police and a judiciary!
@T0NYD1CK
@T0NYD1CK 9 ай бұрын
Did all the alleged victims just decide one day to approach the Times and spill their stories? I suspect the media started these proceedings. One wonders why?
@scottyjohn4206
@scottyjohn4206 9 ай бұрын
Why did none of these “victims” report to police? Why are the met police saying NO REPORTED INCIDENTS?? and why are you hiding behind fake names etc?? Good journalists haha I could pluck 5 people off the street and shove a script in theyre hands to read out that would be about as good as that pile of steaming garbage, sorry until I see some actual EVIDENCE I don’t believe you this is sheer character assassination in my opinion
@surgigi1582
@surgigi1582 9 ай бұрын
will happen too, honey, don't worry booboo
@mookieibra6376
@mookieibra6376 9 ай бұрын
This needs to be investigated properly and let justice prevail.
@there-sis-stanceiscoming8230
@there-sis-stanceiscoming8230 9 ай бұрын
It wont be. This is theatre, including Brand, a brand of actor ... its theatre, otherwise they would say little (and spend two weeks not revealing his name and all that cr@p) .... and the victims would have gone to the pigs of the animal farm ...
@sararahman7731
@sararahman7731 9 ай бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯
@mookieibra6376
@mookieibra6376 9 ай бұрын
@@there-sis-stanceiscoming8230 if he's found innocent all those alleged victims should face charges, there are so many lives destroyed by false allegations.
@philipwebb8297
@philipwebb8297 9 ай бұрын
My wife now has Alzheimers! It all kicked off just after her 2nd Covid-19 jab on 14 April 2021! And Alzheimer's cannot be cured! People are now dying because of that damn Covid-19 vaccination! All this sex stuff is all a smoke screen! That bird who's dising out the dirt is a typical woke apparatchik! My poor wife!
@ghostlightx9005
@ghostlightx9005 9 ай бұрын
@@user-vd7jz3qx5f While this is certainly possible, it is not a FACT (yet).
@devilishdeed
@devilishdeed 9 ай бұрын
Their story is that 10 years ago they were hanging out with a famous drug addict and he did something sexually inappropriate. Now he's clean of drugs with a family they've teamed up with some of the same media companies that enabled him in the first place to try and destroy his life.
@melmorrison1400
@melmorrison1400 9 ай бұрын
In a nutshell ❤
@tomvalentine4928
@tomvalentine4928 9 ай бұрын
Sexually inappropriate covers a gamut of actions. I f some part of it was illegal then he's guilty, whenever it took place,
@len6871
@len6871 9 ай бұрын
If you get your 16 year old school girl in a BBC taxi to be hoovered over to Russel. Do you think he wants to do your home work with you? Comme on! If you can not handle the fact that you are pimped by the BBC and he is going to be Prince Charming and bake you cookies. You should rethink your own motives. And did not tell your mommy you went. If you have a not nice experience you learned that you were a young woman that overplayed her hand. And now blame others. If you get in a car to be taken to a stranger. You are suppose to know that it is not your narritve any more and you are in for the ride. And if you choose to do so you are in the 'game'. But appearently she did not learned her lesson. And thought...I shoyld not have done that. She acted like a available woman. Totally in for a liaison with a wild party animal. So...she got what she got in the car for. Send by the BBC. Beleive me I had my fair share of paying the bill when not allert or not setting boundries on time. And told them off. Did what I had to do to realize that I myself are responsible of who my crowd is at what age. It is called growing up.
@jaylucas8352
@jaylucas8352 9 ай бұрын
Pathetic money chasers I don’t believe a WORD OF THIS WITCH-HUNT.
@aliasif8498
@aliasif8498 9 ай бұрын
Exactly
@lloydbuckley2520
@lloydbuckley2520 9 ай бұрын
Innocent until proven guilty, why are these women reporting the "crimes" to the media and not the police?
@scotam1844
@scotam1844 9 ай бұрын
Tell the police not the press. Imagine if someone stole your car, wait have to call the local paper they will sort this out lol
@rjim1
@rjim1 9 ай бұрын
Because it's a predictable attack that has been brewing since he has been destroying all these mainstream companies in the ratings and more importantly he has been exposing their vile behavior daily and this is the type of despicable attack they stoop to. His poor family must be beside themselves, especially as he has young girls.
@judeleese7783
@judeleese7783 9 ай бұрын
yes…a little bit suss to be honest..
@amstaylorph
@amstaylorph 9 ай бұрын
If, you employ a modicum of empathy, and a smidgen of intelligence and thought, you can answer your question yourself.
@mrdemocracy7106
@mrdemocracy7106 9 ай бұрын
Agree and SO MANY YEARS LATER? I wonder why
@Ilovehamsters78
@Ilovehamsters78 9 ай бұрын
They're allegations and he's NOT been convicted so why on earth is he being treated as guilty by the media?
@celestialasmr9624
@celestialasmr9624 9 ай бұрын
Um, is he locked up?
@syls3198
@syls3198 9 ай бұрын
@@celestialasmr9624 Um, I cannot read....
@danpearce4547
@danpearce4547 8 ай бұрын
@@celestialasmr9624 Are the media capable of locking him up?
@shelbyn8153
@shelbyn8153 9 ай бұрын
Seems strange that media outlets seeked out women who until now had no issues, and that his show has been exposing these same outlets of their horrible track record of lies and deceit
@paulatreides6779
@paulatreides6779 9 ай бұрын
Exactly, that's why all of this is suspicious. Smells like a smear campaign. The question is who is paying for this.
@philipwebb8297
@philipwebb8297 9 ай бұрын
My wife now has Alzheimers! It all kicked off just after her 2nd Covid-19 jab on 14 April 2021! And Alzheimer's cannot be cured! People are now dying because of that damn Covid-19 vaccination! All this sex stuff is all a smoke screen! That bird who's dishing out the dirt is a typical woke apparatchik! My poor wife!
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
I think you (mis)typed "issues" instead of "voice"? Maybe it was autocorrect?
@CrueLoaf
@CrueLoaf 9 ай бұрын
That journalism was appalling. The TV programme picked Brand's worst comments during a stand-up show and then pinned them against the women who spoke of their allegations. Let's be honest, it cant be too difficult to make a show like that!
@Eric-qm5xw
@Eric-qm5xw 9 ай бұрын
Terrible journalism…a year of investigation and no current police investigation. Complete hit piece …
@pifflepockle
@pifflepockle 9 ай бұрын
@@Eric-qm5xwWho are you then and what facts do you have?
@terri6854
@terri6854 9 ай бұрын
There was certainly a lot of filler thrown in there to fill up the whole 77 minutes, but about 10 minutes of it was genuinely detailing completely criminal and abusive behavior, of which there is actual evidence.
@Eric-qm5xw
@Eric-qm5xw 9 ай бұрын
@@terri6854 “Actual evidence”… how so ? Do elaborate, it’s an allegation. And this programme will 💯 impact on any potential trial due to the prejudicial nature of UK law. The question is why did the women not go the police in the last say 6 months and why did the great journalists not help them go to the police with the so called evidence.
@CrueLoaf
@CrueLoaf 9 ай бұрын
@@Eric-qm5xw yes the show will definitely play a part in any case. Usually an accused MO (mode of operating) remains private until the case when the victims have their say. Any similarities then make their case stronger. Now the stories can be merged because they are in the public domain.
@Canthatcrazy
@Canthatcrazy 9 ай бұрын
Nothing says 'Credible victim' like: - NOT going to the police, EVER. - Going to a tabloid - Going to a documentary maker - bluring your face - hiding your name - not voicing your own statement - keeping pics of your abuser and trinkets they gave you - keep reiterating you was in a relationship and of legal age - ZERO evidence of all the victims, apart from 1 text, in 15 years, to 1 person that could be interpreted as anything cos there's zero context. It stinks of BS.
@MaccaveliDon
@MaccaveliDon 9 ай бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@sergioindigo6072
@sergioindigo6072 9 ай бұрын
Yes,and now The Times is just a grubby Tabloid; they will have a Red Top Banner soon.
@liambowbrick3917
@liambowbrick3917 9 ай бұрын
But a woman heard about this while having her small daughter sat on her knee so it must be true
@TheCJsamson
@TheCJsamson 9 ай бұрын
Much of what you’ve stated here Isn’t true. There was more evidence than “one text” presented in the documentary alone and IF what was alleged in Dipatches is true there will be more evidence besides. ‘Innocent until proven guilty’ but you clearly haven’t assessed the allegations in good faith.
@tomimpala
@tomimpala 9 ай бұрын
The text was pretty damning, dude. She said he promised to wear protection and didn't and his response was apologizing for it.
@Denise-vn8wz
@Denise-vn8wz 9 ай бұрын
Why did this story break via the media rather than the police?
@RachelBarker-ov2zg
@RachelBarker-ov2zg 9 ай бұрын
Exactly. Did these journalists contact the police or just make their documentary? Where is the police reports, police investigations etc.
@equatorialjourney4478
@equatorialjourney4478 9 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣…. You know exactly why . We ALL KNOW EXACTLY WHY . No one has faith in the police ( esp Brand ) . Ironic seeing all his fans using this lame excuse when he himself has made a squillion from trashing the status quo . SMFH
@fabiennemitchell2371
@fabiennemitchell2371 9 ай бұрын
@@equatorialjourney4478 I'm not a fan of Russell Brand yet am very troubled by this media scoop. I am also aware that Russel Brand's social media platforms and the gigantic of number of subscribers to them, and his well researched challenges to the establishment, has made him enemies in high places.
@surgigi1582
@surgigi1582 9 ай бұрын
because the police is useless, you have other excuses?
@myzenlifeinnature
@myzenlifeinnature 9 ай бұрын
Women of your generation? Hon', try the 80s. Probably every generation in all history. A lot of us fared worse, but get over it, not worth pursuing as it means our own reputations are shot for life, which has far greater life consequences than a power imbalance relationship, confused questionable coerced fumble, forced upon, etc situations. My perspective on this, although was in harm's way, is to just get on and know what to avoid in the future. Live and learn. Life's tough. Take ownership in our own part in situations. Note that I obviously am referring to two legal adults in a situation.
@onagoodday5557
@onagoodday5557 9 ай бұрын
I don't really know how these people live with themselves. The aching decay of mainstream media is a stain on humanity.
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
How do you think his VICTIMS live with themselves? you often feel bad that you should have done more to avoid it..? Look we can easily find a NEW bolshy loud anti-establishment Poster Boy!
@oracleofaltoona
@oracleofaltoona 9 ай бұрын
Just learned that under UK law RB cannot even bring (and win) a defamation suit as there is a defense that if the allegations are made with the belief that telling the story is "in the public interest" even if the information is wrong, the party suing for defamation cannot prevail. That's insane.
@oracleofaltoona
@oracleofaltoona 9 ай бұрын
could be wrong google to verify …. but I heard it from a British lawyer giving commentary with a youtuber covering the story
@oracleofaltoona
@oracleofaltoona 8 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner kzfaq.infoO0xuuu1l5Ak?si=-PUJmt_AybPYA17J
@Threadbow
@Threadbow 8 ай бұрын
​@@JimCarneroh I think that was phil of #thismorning's lawyer. I do believe he was incorrect.
@Threadbow
@Threadbow 8 ай бұрын
@@JimCarner o think it was on attwood
@telfo6183
@telfo6183 9 ай бұрын
Who needs the police or the law when we have media law .
@bieituns
@bieituns 9 ай бұрын
Yes trial by media and public opinion.
@bastogne315
@bastogne315 9 ай бұрын
Cliff Rochard.
@hamcheeselettucemayosandwich
@hamcheeselettucemayosandwich 9 ай бұрын
Tiresome moronic comment. You’d let him get away with anything. No reality exists for his supporters.
@nicholasr39
@nicholasr39 9 ай бұрын
The media knows more than what we know just like Jimmy savile, everyone knew he was a sex offender and how the public was shocked when it all came out and even worse was when it all came out about how the BBC and others knew the full extent to what he'd actually done. If the media are taking risks like this they probably know something or know a lot more than the public do.
@leehenry5764
@leehenry5764 9 ай бұрын
Under Tories our police are a joke and only care about people saying mean words on the internet
@hyperbole6529
@hyperbole6529 9 ай бұрын
That program should never have been shown until he is proven guilty. How could he get a fair trial now.
@LucasLawrence69
@LucasLawrence69 9 ай бұрын
They don’t care about a trial the accusations is the attack/punishment itself
@melgrant7404
@melgrant7404 9 ай бұрын
Bit like the cliff Richard allegations in that if no one named him no other victims would come forward which is another aspect.
@bieituns
@bieituns 9 ай бұрын
Exactly, they dont want a trial. this isnt about getting justice for anyone this is about discrediting him because he has been growing in popularity and making a lot of powerful enemies by exposing a lot of powerful people.
@amstaylorph
@amstaylorph 9 ай бұрын
Nothing could've been more publicized than the O.J. Simpson slow speed pursuit and all the stuff that happened before his trial, we all know he murdered them, and he still got a "fair" trial. Catch my drift?
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
Would you say the same thing if it were "Prince" Andrew or 'Wonderful Charity Worker' Jimmy Savile? Or indeed the AWFUL Dame Margaret Hodge facilitating Islington's Child Abuse ring? You'd REALLY argue the media should investigate NO-ONE powerful?? Its not ideal, but often that's how Criminal Investigations get STARTED
@sheilaball3693
@sheilaball3693 9 ай бұрын
I read this morning in an online article by the Times, thatt the Times have been actively investigating Russell since 2019 in an operation that spanned hundreds of interviews and reached across the globe ....thats an awful lot of digging and shovelling to find four women with very different claims.
@sheilaball3693
@sheilaball3693 9 ай бұрын
The words witch hunt spring to mind ... and the reminder of the legal standard in this country.... innocent until proven guilty. It is also interesting to me the phraseology being used about his alleged conduct/offences these alleged events took place many years ago ...that does not mean they are in any way a true reflection of him now, even in the event they are proven in a court of law!
@scattyfi
@scattyfi 9 ай бұрын
Even then they had to fake the text. Such a shoddy job, I know primary school goers who could've done better!
@Lyra1.618
@Lyra1.618 8 ай бұрын
Plus- when you know the extent of criminality in government that’s ignored by these same “journalists” it’s truly in-your-face obvious that all of this is a full-scale assassination by arm-chair cowards.
@Threadbow
@Threadbow 8 ай бұрын
​@@sheilaball3693 whenever! If he did the crime he will do the time
@davidrobertsemail
@davidrobertsemail 9 ай бұрын
He’s upset people so they smear him with a sex crime allegation. Oldest trick in the book.
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
Yes indeed! So lets look INTO the multiple allegations to see if they're CONSISTENT, and BELIEVABLE So far I'm like "yes, they are"
@L_Martin
@L_Martin 9 ай бұрын
5:31 “We have to be quite careful how we talk about this” - after doing the whole segment with the presumption that he is guilty! They didn’t even pay lip service to “Now, obviously he has not been found guilty and these are accusations only that we are reporting on”
@melmorrison1400
@melmorrison1400 9 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@dixonpinfold2582
@dixonpinfold2582 9 ай бұрын
Faux integrity.
@bulbhead3333
@bulbhead3333 9 ай бұрын
The times are a great supporter of the war in Ukraine and Brand is very anti War Propaganda so the times angle on this is no surprise to me .
@Berry-fr5wj
@Berry-fr5wj 9 ай бұрын
The media are enemies of the people
@stevenpace892
@stevenpace892 9 ай бұрын
I think they are publishing the accusations, which is useful in my opinion. 1 it brings light to the important public policy issue. 2 it makes sure that a powerful person can not quietly suppress the accusations (which does happen)
@user-um3fc1ct5w
@user-um3fc1ct5w 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn't believe anyone who goes to social media rather than the police with there accusations.
@stuartyoung4645
@stuartyoung4645 9 ай бұрын
They went to the papers and Channel 4, not social media.
@PaperbackJourneys
@PaperbackJourneys 9 ай бұрын
@@stuartyoung4645To these people social media and the news is the same thing. They think their comments are journalism. Some of them actually call themselves civilian journalists. It's insane.
@celestialasmr9624
@celestialasmr9624 9 ай бұрын
Interesting because Russell's entire career is now on social media. He spouts accusations on social media every day and people lap it up
@celestialasmr9624
@celestialasmr9624 9 ай бұрын
​@@PaperbackJourneysexactly, such as Russell
@andrewcrowder4958
@andrewcrowder4958 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t believe anyone who doesn’t know the difference between ‘there’ and ‘their.’
@kelleyspartiatis4776
@kelleyspartiatis4776 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, so i just guessed that he would be targeted in some way to silence him. So did everyone else i suppose. Good job guys! All you managed to do is make his voice louder and people with their own minds listen more closely.
@3ld919
@3ld919 9 ай бұрын
If you think his what he calls "Millions of awakening wonders" which is the cult gurus name for his followers have their own minds, well you just might be an awakening wonder yourself. He's an opportunistic conman and pretty darn good at it.
@nickmandleberg
@nickmandleberg 8 ай бұрын
​@@3ld919whereas The Times are a bastion of free speech impartiality and common sense?
@linyarin
@linyarin 9 ай бұрын
Interesting to see the allegations about Russell Brand are headlines all over the media. Why is not the same happening to Dan Wootton?
@nvelsen1975
@nvelsen1975 8 ай бұрын
You'd love to draw attention away from Putin's loyal attack dog in the British media huh Sergei?
@Lyra1.618
@Lyra1.618 8 ай бұрын
Oh so true. How about Hunter Biden in USA? The cyber vigilante crucifiers are repugnant.
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
Well THAT'S a comforting thought.. Maybe they can share a cell, @danswhite8544 ?
@goldenbadger2620
@goldenbadger2620 9 ай бұрын
Trial by media is always sickening. This is a police matter not an f-img media matter. I hate British media; it needs to die now.
@huizhechen3779
@huizhechen3779 9 ай бұрын
He's a media creature & so deserves to be tried by the media: Live by the sword==>die by the sword. No pity for the celebrated. His charisma isn't his strong point, but his celebrity is. Not sufficient to sympathize with him, I'm afraid. His self-defense condemns him. No empathy for promiscuity (=insatiable greed).
@LucyOLastic
@LucyOLastic 9 ай бұрын
They aren't even British. The most powerful media company in the world headed up by the world's biggest "influencer."
@sharonstephens5447
@sharonstephens5447 9 ай бұрын
@@huizhechen3779 What about regular citizens wrongly and maliciously accused. In particular the most recent case which led to a woman in the UK being convicted of lying with malicious intent while being supported and promoted by the media. What about the irreparable damage she in conjunction with the media caused to the innocent (non celebrity) men who were forced to endure bullying, attacks and reputation damage all due to lies and the media spreading their irresponsible and bias brand of misinformation and unverified content.
@melmorrison1400
@melmorrison1400 9 ай бұрын
@@sharonstephens5447famous or not. No one deserves to be tried by propaganda media
@dstm7777
@dstm7777 9 ай бұрын
​​@@sharonstephens5447Yes. This sounds exactly like what H&M are dealing with right now, and they haven't been accused of committing any crimes. Crazy right?
@toonarmy_jack
@toonarmy_jack 9 ай бұрын
Let's be clear this is absolutely about Russell's success in alternative media
@amstaylorph
@amstaylorph 9 ай бұрын
How often do you state conjecture as 'fact'
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
Sorry mate, we're listened to THOUSANDS of politicians speeches "Let me be abundantly) clear" means lie, unprovalbe claim or obfuscation coming RIGHT up!
@AdeyaProductions
@AdeyaProductions 9 ай бұрын
If this is true, why is it coming out now? Did all three ‘women’ just wake up one day and decide to report it to the police? And how did it end up in the media? And why are they giving their stories to the media? Why aren’t they feeling like keeping it as a police investigative matter. It’s so hard to come forward, why would you want it in the media?
@paulatreides6779
@paulatreides6779 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, and all of them in the same time. This is bs. Cannot help but wonder who is paying for this.
@sareedoahmed1751
@sareedoahmed1751 9 ай бұрын
Allegations or taken to court?? Am so confused? Have reported him and taken him to court. If not then we have nothing to talk about guys. This is just insane!
@peterjones6507
@peterjones6507 9 ай бұрын
The documentary was inappropriate and quite disgusting. If this was a serious matter the complainants and the journalists would have contacted the police. Trial by TV audience is just cheap programming. I hope this ends up in court.
@gymtuppernation4703
@gymtuppernation4703 9 ай бұрын
100%, the channel 4 documentary was trash! The cherry on top was them putting “if you have a story please get intouch” at the end. They’re desperate!
@nev7711
@nev7711 9 ай бұрын
It's a character assassination that will backfire on the mainstream media. They are upset that the Internet is the new go to information medium for news and current affairs. It breaks the old power structure that's in cohorts with the political establishment.
@panchopuskas1
@panchopuskas1 9 ай бұрын
- but this is EXACTLY what Brand does on his YT channel ........ live by the sword and all that......
@everythingclub599
@everythingclub599 9 ай бұрын
So she willingly went to his house late at night?😂😂😂😂😂😂 For cuddles?
@howshecuttingbogman8999
@howshecuttingbogman8999 9 ай бұрын
It was brilliant. Brands deserves to be removed from this planet
@brandonross1996
@brandonross1996 9 ай бұрын
Not a sane soul believes in any of it. The system is losing its grip and lashing out anyone going against it. The awakening is beautiful and is impossible to stop 😍
@TMMReznor
@TMMReznor 9 ай бұрын
🤡
@amstaylorph
@amstaylorph 9 ай бұрын
Can I interest you in some beautifully handcrafted tinfoil hats?
@brandonross1996
@brandonross1996 9 ай бұрын
@@amstaylorph your too late already got 3 💋
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
Sane="believes what I believe" Hmmm :(
@brandonross1996
@brandonross1996 3 ай бұрын
@@petegaslondon why’s he not been arrested then?
@VeritasAbsoluta
@VeritasAbsoluta 8 ай бұрын
The abridged version for anyone not wanting to watch the video: "We alarmed that some people are not willing to just believe our story about an allegation of something that may or may not have happened 20 years ago, published by the media that has lied to them almost non-stop for the past several years, about a person who was a media darling until he started calling out our lies"
@51madmitch
@51madmitch 9 ай бұрын
I think what has happened is totally out of order, and it makes it impossible should any charges be brought against him, to have a fair trial, people who go to the media first should lose there rights to press charges against anyone.
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
Oh get knotted! thats ALL that some of Saviles victims HAD
@metaversemillen
@metaversemillen 9 ай бұрын
The bbc and Chanel 4 should investigate them selves. Does anyone believe what they report on anymore?
@melmorrison1400
@melmorrison1400 9 ай бұрын
True, I’d go as far as saying if msm says something is a fact… I presume they’re lying
@LaLeMay
@LaLeMay 9 ай бұрын
Nope that’s why I haven’t watched or listened to the BBC or Channel 4 for over 6 years. I haven’t had a TV licence since about 2016. Who watched that made up propaganda anymore?
@honeybadger9425
@honeybadger9425 9 ай бұрын
You lost me in the first 30 seconds when you labelled Russell’s online content as misinformation
@michaelweston7742
@michaelweston7742 9 ай бұрын
And then they ended by saying it has nothing to do with his KZfaq channel. What liars. This channel is a rag
@noncalamari
@noncalamari 9 ай бұрын
It IS misinformation. Snap out of it. Stop being a weak-minded fool.
@lw1zfog
@lw1zfog 9 ай бұрын
play for pay presstitutes out themselves
@amstaylorph
@amstaylorph 9 ай бұрын
But it is.
@dixonpinfold2582
@dixonpinfold2582 9 ай бұрын
@@lw1zfog It is ok to say _savage_ as a compliment on KZfaq? If so, I say it
@jethrobradley7850
@jethrobradley7850 9 ай бұрын
I was told about The Times / Channel 4 investigation many months ago by two separate acquaintances who work in the UK media (not for either of those companies). I was also told that they (Times and C4) were waiting for Russell Brand to start his tour before going public. I have no idea whether there is or isn't any truth in these historical allegations against Brand but I certainly find the timing of this expose very suspect and cynical. If the motivation for this documentary/expose was purely about getting the truth out there, then why wait for months? *perhaps even years.
@marioskublan7273
@marioskublan7273 9 ай бұрын
If their extremely serious allegations why did these alleged victims not approach the police first. Why do we have to live in a society where it is trial by media and not the law?
@sia9907
@sia9907 9 ай бұрын
I'm very tired of trial by media.
@amstaylorph
@amstaylorph 9 ай бұрын
Poor little baby. go and have a lie down.
@dixonpinfold2582
@dixonpinfold2582 9 ай бұрын
@@amstaylorph You're right, media mobs are cool. We need a lot more of them and a lot less of people who would ever complain about them. A lot of people would call you extremely bad names but I think you're one of the real heroes.
@amstaylorph
@amstaylorph 9 ай бұрын
@@dixonpinfold2582 Thanks...I think?
@gearoftones8585
@gearoftones8585 9 ай бұрын
I'll make a judgment when I've heard both sides and all of the evidence. Condemning people without giving them their day in court goes against everything the justice system is supposed to be
@underdogtv2855
@underdogtv2855 9 ай бұрын
He was a big critic of the Ukraine war and the media and now he's under attack from all the Media. It all seems coordinated google his name.
@lukemurray4950
@lukemurray4950 9 ай бұрын
There is no justice. They say "believe all women" they don't believe in justice!
@gearoftones8585
@gearoftones8585 9 ай бұрын
@@lukemurray4950 the recent Johnny Depp trial should have taught everyone that you can't just believe people off the bat. You can give them a fair hearing and always keep an open mind but to simply believe is dangerous because then you're coming at it from a view of guilt instead of just following the evidence. I'm not saying he's innocent or guilty but as the law stands, you're entirely innocent until proven otherwise. That's a fundamental part of the justice system and it's there to protect us all.
@lukemurray4950
@lukemurray4950 9 ай бұрын
@@gearoftones8585 exactly but nothing changes because their is an agenda at play!
@alanwatterson2850
@alanwatterson2850 9 ай бұрын
Whether these women or Brand are believed in a court remains to be seen. But if you haven't come to the conclusion that Brand is an unhinged conspiracy theorist, capable of anything, then you haven't been paying attention.
@anthonym8250
@anthonym8250 9 ай бұрын
Media outlets should be handing investigative or potentially criminal evidence to the authorities, not carrying out their own judicial process. This is the problem.
@Threadbow
@Threadbow 8 ай бұрын
You do know that is how #Metoo started. Journalists exposed weinsteine with women telling their abuse. Then he was sacked immediately, police charged him and then jail. If only some Journalists had done the same with Savile. Cause the police let him off, failing survivors.
@AllScarsHealTarotcardreader
@AllScarsHealTarotcardreader 9 ай бұрын
What’s alarming is someone can lose everything before proven guilty. It’s supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Not guilty by public opinion. Guilty or not I don’t know but that’s for the law to decide. I do respect it’s hard to come forward and the media probably has a part to play in that also. It should be nothing is published until proven guilty by a court of law. Media has sway with the public and it would be ignorant to think otherwise. It’s sad that a lot of victims don’t come forward
@donaldgraham6414
@donaldgraham6414 9 ай бұрын
What is “alarming” is the outrageous conduct of Times Radio.
@JB-jl6xf
@JB-jl6xf 9 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9GTgKZ2zdemZKs.html At least one of the women's texts has been manipulated
@twisteddancer7773
@twisteddancer7773 9 ай бұрын
Looks like the man in this video needs a big breakfast fry up
@dalecross4543
@dalecross4543 9 ай бұрын
Also saying his name was in Epsteins little black book and he had been on the island several times?
@edwardjons8684
@edwardjons8684 9 ай бұрын
What outrageous conduct?
@brianlopez8855
@brianlopez8855 9 ай бұрын
They have a great insurance company, fortunately for Russ.
@lukemurray4950
@lukemurray4950 9 ай бұрын
I love that you find it alarming becauae then you understand we are not buying these attacks anymore! This is what happens to everyone who goes against the establishment!
@amstaylorph
@amstaylorph 9 ай бұрын
I'm guessing you never met a conspiracy theory you didn't like
@lukemurray4950
@lukemurray4950 9 ай бұрын
@@amstaylorph what??
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
That "my enemies enemy is NOT (always) my friend" @@lukemurray4950
@_Ben4810
@_Ben4810 9 ай бұрын
Funny how these journalists haven't interviewed the parents of the 16 year old girl to ask what parenting safeguards measures they put in place for their child daughter having a relationship with a 31 year old man, & to perhaps remind them of their legal duties as parents also...
@leonthegreat6339
@leonthegreat6339 9 ай бұрын
No evidence, no police reports, no court hearings and no charges but cancel him anyway because you are 'always inclined to believe a victim' what has the world become
@MerryOlSoulGigglesmith
@MerryOlSoulGigglesmith 9 ай бұрын
One response was TIMES RADIO turning comments off on a video that the public called out TIMES RADIO for being more interested in BRAND than grooming gangs or the EPSTEIN list. Curious that.
@Still_Small_Voice
@Still_Small_Voice 9 ай бұрын
Times Radio: It's alarming that a lot of people still seem to believe in innocent until proven guilty, despite all the media's attempts at smearing people in the court of public opinion.
@Ceaseless_Watcher
@Ceaseless_Watcher 9 ай бұрын
Innocent until proven guilty is a legal standard that means you are not punished for a crime until proven guilty. It does not morally oblige someone to leap to the defence of a celebrity that they like before they even know what the allegations are, let alone the evidence, and thus have absolutely no basis whatsoever on which to proclaim his innocence any more than anyone else can proclaim his guilt.
@lukemurray4950
@lukemurray4950 9 ай бұрын
Men are not safe in the Western world! When will people wake up??
@dalecross4543
@dalecross4543 9 ай бұрын
In his late 30s inviting 15 and 16 year old girls says it all?
@geordiejaygaming2878
@geordiejaygaming2878 9 ай бұрын
exactly, if it was true why hasnt this been done in the courts? i dont believe it as the media, reminds me of the johnny depp trial
@Robolaralobarar
@Robolaralobarar 9 ай бұрын
It doesn't work. Why would you put someone in prison when when they have not been convicted. Innocent until proven guilty , you people don't seem to know what it means. Let's leave murderers out of prison until they have full 2 year trial 😂😂😂
@juliadixon5575
@juliadixon5575 8 ай бұрын
How come politicians never get investigated by Channel 4?
@PedroMiguel-if3ll
@PedroMiguel-if3ll 9 ай бұрын
I never met any sexual abuser when confront with allegations would say " Yes, its true, so what?"
@4azzy
@4azzy 9 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you call out the government and the elites... you get falsely accused to get rid of you.
@zeebro7688
@zeebro7688 9 ай бұрын
I agree but disagree with the description elite, rich tax dodging criminals maybe?
@ayodeleajayi7481
@ayodeleajayi7481 9 ай бұрын
Doesn't work anymore. A large proportion are waking up to these kind of shenanigans.
@4azzy
@4azzy 9 ай бұрын
@@zeebro7688 he criticised those who own the pharmaceutical companies regarding the covid vaccines and the billions they made in profits
@4azzy
@4azzy 9 ай бұрын
He also called out the government's on how they are run and who are chosen to be up for elections. Now suddenly he is accused of something from nearly 20 years ago....
@gordonstrong5232
@gordonstrong5232 9 ай бұрын
Brand is an elite, he's just an elite you like.
@davidsurrey4778
@davidsurrey4778 9 ай бұрын
What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Naming and shaming anybody is unacceptable. If true let the police investigate and the courts . Smells like grubby character assassination. Disgusting
@melgrant7404
@melgrant7404 9 ай бұрын
How do you know if it's character assassination or suggest that when nothing has been proved yet.
@tigger4000
@tigger4000 9 ай бұрын
@@melgrant7404 Because in the absence of anything being proved - we treat people as innocent - and innocence in this case would suggest character assassination.
@jon77834
@jon77834 9 ай бұрын
It's funny how selective we are when it comes to these things, were you saying the same of Price Andrew? Or Ghislaine Maxwell? When the media doesn't do adequate reporting on allegations, such as in the case of Philip Schofield or Jimmy Saville, then the same people vilify the media for not reporting. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. At the end of the day the media is reporting that there has been allegations against Russell, not the first time there have been allegations by the way, do you think that the media should be hiding this information from the public?
@darthvacation9299
@darthvacation9299 9 ай бұрын
​@@melgrant7404key part of what you said there: "nothing has been proven yet". Why are you so eager to believe the story of known liars and establishment shills? If it went to court, and was PROVEN true, then he should go to jail without hesitation. But these kind of hit pieces are not infallible proof, and are designed to get nothing other than an emotional response, which it looks like is working with you. For the record, im not even an RB fan, I just hate the way anyone who questions the establishment get this same hit piece tactic thrown at them, and so many react with emotion to believe it without question. Remember when they all lambasted Johnny Depp as an abuser?? Remember how that turned out?
@djackson9247
@djackson9247 9 ай бұрын
@@melgrant7404 Precisely *because* nothing has been proven, yet here it is all over the media. You should aim questions like that towards those throwing these allegations around without evidence, particularly when it is being reported to the media and not the authorities. Why do you think that is?
@Jams848484
@Jams848484 9 ай бұрын
The only thing that should be alarming to The Times is that nobody believes their BS anymore. You're done.
@charlesw852
@charlesw852 9 ай бұрын
I, of course, have no idea whether any of these allegations are true or not, but it is incredibly revealing that these reporters spent 3 years and conducted interviews with 100s of people in a desperate search to try and unearth these allegations. That is the real story here, not that Russell Brand, of all people, has a sordid sexual past.
@nopants4259
@nopants4259 9 ай бұрын
There been so many stories and rumour going around for years. Many face serious litigation and wouldn't risk saying out loud. The police and lawyers were told before the program was aired
@christiankanika2039
@christiankanika2039 9 ай бұрын
Journalist doing their work... the horror. So what is better? Doing proper research or just having a feeling like you have? I dont know if he is innocent or not but I know its a good sign that there are some many interviews and they took time to investigate this. I dont see how making an effort is a bad thing. Or do you think that all bad stuff that happens can be investigated in one day and all you need is one interview? Ideally from the guy who was accused. Am I right?
@charlesw852
@charlesw852 9 ай бұрын
@@christiankanika2039 Haha. What rambling nonsense. I think someone must have had one too many drinks.
@mrjinks5641
@mrjinks5641 9 ай бұрын
What’s alarming is the radio and medias relentless character assassinations and its quickness to do so
@barrygenemurphy
@barrygenemurphy 9 ай бұрын
quickness? the allegations go back 20 years, journalists and media knew about this for that long, if anything this one didn't happen quick enough.
@mrjinks5641
@mrjinks5641 9 ай бұрын
@@barrygenemurphy Allegations are not proof of anything, people seem quick to convict before evidence is provided, history tell us that much .
@surgigi1582
@surgigi1582 9 ай бұрын
character assassinations? since when did this S addict had any character? His only fans are misogynistic incel fanboys, also fanboying over Tate.
@overthewebb
@overthewebb 9 ай бұрын
@@barrygenemurphy 20 years ago Brand wasn't going after the biggest investment companies and corporations and politicians in the world. It's only recently this has been happening and every single person who has done so recently has had a character assasanation against them. I don't agree with all Russell's views or pretty much everyone else who has been attacked, it's no coincidence that Russel has more followers, get's more views than multi-billion media corporations who are backed by these massive investment companies Brand is going after
@fuckamericanidiot
@fuckamericanidiot 9 ай бұрын
​@@barrygenemurphyDon't be glib. SILENCE for 20 years. It all comes out in 48 hours.
@walkaz
@walkaz 9 ай бұрын
Alarmed because people no longer instantly buy “Your truth”
@surgigi1582
@surgigi1582 9 ай бұрын
not everyone a a sexist conservative like you.
@meighme8540
@meighme8540 9 ай бұрын
I met R Brand some years ago in a Hotel with my partner, he was with 2 young girls and he was all over them. My partner asked him if he was joining the wedding party, he took real umbridge to this for some reason and leapt up from between the girls and then came over and I thought he was going to thump my partner, he's a tall man. He squared up to my partner and stated some expletive and went back to the couch where the 2 girls were and carried on with his groping of both girls. They didn't appear to be too bothered but we were not impressed by him at any level.
@Max-ki6df
@Max-ki6df 8 ай бұрын
It should be criminal to accuse someone publicly of a crime, with anonymous sources.
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
If it did Savile would still be celebrated, and 'innocent'
@Max-ki6df
@Max-ki6df 3 ай бұрын
@@petegaslondon There is a lot of people walking around being 'innocent'. Savile never had consequences being actually prosecuted by the police, not just smeared by the press, so no, I wouldn't take him as an example, for something that is clearly against the principle of a constitutional state.
@D_A86
@D_A86 9 ай бұрын
Non of these guys seem overly confident in what they are saying (shaky voices, awkward movements, lack of eye contact) Almost like there is something very SUS about this story........ 🤨🤨🤨
@jonescrusher1
@jonescrusher1 9 ай бұрын
In your imagination, maybe
@melmorrison1400
@melmorrison1400 9 ай бұрын
@@jonescrusher1that’d be in twenty one peoples mind then!
@unbabunga229
@unbabunga229 9 ай бұрын
How dare someone be innocent until proven guilty!
@PerryUK
@PerryUK 9 ай бұрын
If he's found guilty in a court, you will still defend him and call it a witch hunt, it's what you people do.
@liberality
@liberality 9 ай бұрын
​@@PerryUK 'you people' lol.
@havoc6_1_6
@havoc6_1_6 9 ай бұрын
​@PerryUK And you will still hound him when proven innocent, " it's what you people always do ".
@dancoy09
@dancoy09 9 ай бұрын
@@liberalityit’s true though you guys are kinda cooked in the head
@itsobvious23
@itsobvious23 9 ай бұрын
​@@PerryUK1:21
@duncandisorderly8852
@duncandisorderly8852 8 ай бұрын
What was a 16 Yr old doing visiting an older man in his home ? " come on get a grip
@royalukas8144
@royalukas8144 9 ай бұрын
It doesn’t surprise me, frankly. He’s got an ego and sense of entitlement consistent with an abuser.
@melmorrison1400
@melmorrison1400 9 ай бұрын
Arh, you don’t like him….. therefore you presume he’s guilty. Right? Well in that case perhaps we should do away with the courts and let you ‘presume ‘ if someone / everyone is guilty or not. 🙄
@k91985
@k91985 9 ай бұрын
Most of us have been treated badly and could probably now all sue eachother for something abusive.
@surgigi1582
@surgigi1582 9 ай бұрын
Oh you say the Ellen show should not be cancelled then? Of course abuse is not bad, unless it come from a woman, right?
@celestialasmr9624
@celestialasmr9624 9 ай бұрын
We've all r4ped multiple women!? Um, no mate. Speak for yourself
@supertuscans9512
@supertuscans9512 9 ай бұрын
I think it ridiculous that Ellen got fired. If someone doesn’t like working on the woman’s show they can choose to work somewhere else. I think Ellen’s problem was that her star was fading and this was an efficient and economic way for the Network to lose her.
@sadferret8888
@sadferret8888 9 ай бұрын
They did this to Assange, they didn’t like him speaking truth to power either. Brand has been quite open about his previous addictions and bad behaviour, if the Establishment thinks they’ll silence him now then they’re wrong.
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
Brand was NOT "quite open " about the NUMEROUS (alleged) RAPES. As opposed to weaponising a SINGLE allegation against Assange, that Sweden had dropped, but Starmer continued to boost and weaponise, as a functionary of the British state Dud parallel !
@Cleo-von-Patra-11-11
@Cleo-von-Patra-11-11 9 ай бұрын
And these women aren't seeking a 7 figure compensation figure from the courts then??? Can we please look at deeper motives!!
@emkelly8879
@emkelly8879 9 ай бұрын
The 'alarming' response...? That used to be known as 'innocent until proven to be guilty'...? My goodness - we used to go to the news for perspective, not a stand in for a people's court. This stuff should remain private for the good of all concerned until the matter is settled. It's revolting. Like crows on a carcass and just as nauseating.
@samsativa245
@samsativa245 9 ай бұрын
Everyone knows they're going after him for the things he says on his KZfaq channel. People see straight through it except people incapable of critical thinking
@honved1
@honved1 9 ай бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHA, the irony!
@davedennison7386
@davedennison7386 9 ай бұрын
Why would "they" go after an unfunny comedian??....whoever "they" are??
@amstaylorph
@amstaylorph 9 ай бұрын
That's a baseless accusation and a conspiracy theory devoid of any facts whatsoever. What's far more likely is that he's been exposed for years of bad behavior. Behavior that he thought he could get away with protected as he was (and is) by fame and its accompanying power.
@ZephyrinSkies
@ZephyrinSkies 9 ай бұрын
@@davedennison7386 Russell has been very active in reporting on conflicts of interests, corruption and abuse of power by powerful entities on controversial topics like Covid, pharma, the WEF, global politics, farming, a lot of it involving entities that own or have ties with big media companies. So those would be the "they" people are talking about. I don't know if the allegations are true or not, but if you want to dismiss what people are talking about at least be informed.
@aksa908
@aksa908 8 ай бұрын
They know that “people unable of critical thinking” is like 80% of the population. Therefore they will succeed
@TheSharpy088
@TheSharpy088 9 ай бұрын
How is it every person that gains huge popularity with there anti establishment ideology ends up being quashed by some sort of historic allegations... becoming a regular occurrence
@jonnyc429
@jonnyc429 9 ай бұрын
Maybe they're not as nice as people think they are. A good lesson on not idolising somebody
@ryanparker4996
@ryanparker4996 9 ай бұрын
Because its the modus operandi of the elite to spread lies about those who threaten their power
@David_brent
@David_brent 9 ай бұрын
He is a high degree freemason, he aint exposed anything....he has you all fooled
@sarahmurphy8030
@sarahmurphy8030 9 ай бұрын
Becouse he was getting the truth out there about the corruption and the elite.
@Turdbassist
@Turdbassist 9 ай бұрын
Or maybe he took up the anti establishment ideology so when the accusations came thick and fast he could blame it on that instead. Maybe he's another entitled star pu55y grabber like Trump? My money's on that. Just a thought 👍
@jasonparker9367
@jasonparker9367 9 ай бұрын
A lot of people defended Danny Masterson as well. Until he was found guilty by a jury and sentenced to 30 years to life in prison.
@dixonpinfold2582
@dixonpinfold2582 9 ай бұрын
Bob Dylan: "You know something is happening here / But you don't know what it is / Do you, Mr. Jones?" Most people here aren't defending him. They're (rightly) attacking TR.
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
Also Bob Dylan "To live outside the law, you must be honest" Sounds like everybody's shouting their HEADS off defending him, rather than quietly reading the allegations (many of which I heard WAY before this piece came out, @@dixonpinfold2582 ) Maybe we ALL should - for those OUTSIDE the mainstream its DOUBLY important to tell the truth!
@nikkolaus91
@nikkolaus91 9 ай бұрын
I hope he sues the shi out of these media outlets.
@frankie6954
@frankie6954 9 ай бұрын
How do you know that's what's not happening. I don't trust anything that's said about other people anymore. These people are already speaking as if he were guilty. They seem to believe everything they've read.
@yurisann
@yurisann 9 ай бұрын
than it is simple for you - you shouldn't be believing russel's denials nor statements about 'coordinated attacks' either. how about that ?
@frankie6954
@frankie6954 9 ай бұрын
@yurisann I never mentioned Russell Brand being guilty or innocent. We just don't know. Give him a fair voice, not trial by media. He's obviously being targeted. Why 17 years later, are they making these allegations.
@Randomstuffs261
@Randomstuffs261 9 ай бұрын
Because most of the time when we hear allegations as detailed and supported as this, they turn out to be true. Especially when it aligns with the person's behavior in public.
@frankie6954
@frankie6954 9 ай бұрын
@@Randomstuffs261 How do you know they're true.
@celestialasmr9624
@celestialasmr9624 9 ай бұрын
Logic says the allegations are true. If Russell is wealthy and if he's innocent he can sue each media outlet for defamation. Thefore the media must have considerable, undeniable evidence of his guilt that they know would hold up in court. They wouldn't risk being sued if they didn't know he was guilty.
@Stringer13ell
@Stringer13ell 9 ай бұрын
We dont trust you. You have yourselves to blame for that. So if youre genuinely alarmed self reflect.
@surgigi1582
@surgigi1582 9 ай бұрын
speak for yourself, not everyone is an sexist incel.
@djackson9247
@djackson9247 9 ай бұрын
@@surgigi1582 Correct, some people are ignorant bigots.
@dixonpinfold2582
@dixonpinfold2582 9 ай бұрын
👍Friendly words of counsel there. Alas, entitled mass-produced narcissists & zealots don't look at their beliefs critically. Pity, that.
@jimmyjazz240
@jimmyjazz240 9 ай бұрын
This reminds of the case against Canadian broadcaster Jian Gomeshi. The Canadian Broadcasting Comission decided they would be judge , jury and executioner after they took fairytales of a couple of jilted lovers as gospel and went after him with zero evidence and destroyed his life. He was found not guilty by a jury of his peers after it was discovered the women making the allegations, conspired between themselves to "get back at him", because he dumped them..
@bodazephyr6629
@bodazephyr6629 9 ай бұрын
Don't worry anyone, posh Josh says it's not about bringing down Brand's alternative media outlet, so it's definitely not.
@vagabondslot-machine8832
@vagabondslot-machine8832 9 ай бұрын
Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is in the exclusive realm of a legally appointed jury, not Times Radio.
@jonescrusher1
@jonescrusher1 9 ай бұрын
Since when is it only acceptable to call out bad behaviour within the confines of a criminal court? Real life has never worked that way.
@reydefuego34525
@reydefuego34525 9 ай бұрын
Pretty damning reports of alleged bad behavior
@yurisann
@yurisann 9 ай бұрын
did the media pretend to act as a jury ? it is called investigative journalism
@custardtart1312
@custardtart1312 9 ай бұрын
Who put you in charge?
@a-my9ql
@a-my9ql 9 ай бұрын
At this point they convict anybody for any reason, they say "proven guilty" they prove nothing lol. Some criminals walk free and never face court, other innocent people get "proven guilty". It's called a show trial, it's called a banana republic. Trusting courts today is like trusting a used car salesman to tell you the correct mileage.
@simongray2533
@simongray2533 9 ай бұрын
To be honest I'm not a big fan of Brand but he's innocent until proven guilty, I reckon its wrong to release names of the alleged perpetrator either by law enforcement, journalists or members of the public until they are at least charged (preferably found guilty) . How are they going to get reliable evidence at least a decade after the alleged events? If these women are telling the truth they should've reported it straight away. Always believe the "victim" is a dangerous policy which is potentially open to abuse.
@marcust123
@marcust123 9 ай бұрын
I 100% agree but the thing is the police are not even involved they already put a statement out saying they haven’t received not 1 single report or allegation
@evangelicalsnever-lie9792
@evangelicalsnever-lie9792 9 ай бұрын
I don't like Brand, don't hate him, but never liked him. They have the text evidence where he is virtually admitting it, you need facts. So he's in big trouble. But he's not to be presumed guilty, until there's a conviction. It's not looking good. But wealthy men often get away with it, so he still has a chance to walk scot free.
@edwardjons8684
@edwardjons8684 9 ай бұрын
“If these women are telling the truth they should’ve reported it straight away.” Have you learned nothing? Ffs.
@theclotshotdidit3115
@theclotshotdidit3115 9 ай бұрын
​​@@edwardjons8684 of course they should have reported it straight away, can't get samples if not? What do you mean "have you learned nothing FFS" From the person with the pro Stepan Bandera flag in the picture, who clearly learned nothing about history, or are you an Adolph lover too?
@jasminewhatchawaitingfor
@jasminewhatchawaitingfor 9 ай бұрын
As a woman yes they should have reported it straight away. But everyone has their own reasoning is your is true
@rutgerhauser2377
@rutgerhauser2377 8 ай бұрын
They're alarmed the people aren't listening and believing everything the media says at face value. And they should be, it's a sign of their faltering chokehold on the cultural zeitgeist.
@vimmentors6747
@vimmentors6747 9 ай бұрын
I think any media person who can't see that some of what the media prioritize is based in marketing and attracting clicks should probably be banned.
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
And Brand didn't do HIS schtick for "marketing!? For "getting clicks"? Notoriety? Not quite sure how you'd IMPLEMENT this ban?
@vimmentors6747
@vimmentors6747 3 ай бұрын
@@petegaslondon If your stance is that the media is no longer a source of information, has no obligation to be truthful or unbiased, and is solely a source of entertainment, then sure.
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
So how DO we keep Brand, and the REST of the B'stards honest? @@vimmentors6747 Hint - KZfaq is "Media" too
@skivinski6555
@skivinski6555 9 ай бұрын
The words 'very good journalism' don't apply to MSM anymore
@jasonladd6400
@jasonladd6400 9 ай бұрын
You best stick to truth social son
@pbysome
@pbysome 9 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right son.skivinski
@there-sis-stanceiscoming8230
@there-sis-stanceiscoming8230 9 ай бұрын
Yep. Including Brand. Even his name is some dodgy joke. What a coincidence.
@supertuscans9512
@supertuscans9512 9 ай бұрын
Is it good? I’ll check it out.
@amstaylorph
@amstaylorph 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for settling that for the rest of us.
@Pickledwitch
@Pickledwitch 9 ай бұрын
Surely this reporting is going to ruin any investigation? Isn't this exactly the reason we're supposed to have a trial and jury decide?
@StyxiuSCruX
@StyxiuSCruX 9 ай бұрын
Of course. At this point even if it was true you'd have the investigators crying from the difficulty of navigating legal bull because media tainted the pool. Now EVERYONE's gonna have an opinion and objectivity can't be claimed by the justice system. 😅 I seriously doubt the media establishment cares much, but if they genuinely did care about the women and this isn't a character assassination attempt, then they'd have gone to police and not broken the story until the evidence was gathered quietly.
@jf9763
@jf9763 9 ай бұрын
This isn't about anyone going to jail. This is all about destroying Russel Brand. This is an orchestrated effort to bring him down. This is right out of the mainstream media playbook. Also, he said on his channel that he received an email and a letter from two different media outlets stating they were going to come out with this story. This is most likely why he came out with this first. Why don't people ever ask the question why now? Why is this person all of a sudden coming out with this accusation now? Only now at the height of Russell Brand's popularity with his Youtue Channel and also his telling the truth about mainstream media, big pharma, and corrupt governments? Something is seriously off! I don't believe any of those so-called victims sorry.
@allykatharvey
@allykatharvey 9 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 9 ай бұрын
Decide what?
@Pickledwitch
@Pickledwitch 9 ай бұрын
@@christheghostwriter if he did it or not
@patmc2916
@patmc2916 9 ай бұрын
Brand has given the appearance of taking a path totally opposite to what he was... but what he was cannot disappear because he showed his previous behavior in a very public way. You have heard the interview that Brand did with Jimmy. Savile on BBC 2 radio?
@1000WinstonSmith
@1000WinstonSmith 9 ай бұрын
Full police investigation required
@letsdebate839
@letsdebate839 9 ай бұрын
How can those accusing hide their identities but Russell is outed
@honved1
@honved1 9 ай бұрын
Because he has power, they do not
@surgigi1582
@surgigi1582 9 ай бұрын
what an embarrassing comment, shows the sate of mind of you incels, lol
@winstonwolf5706
@winstonwolf5706 9 ай бұрын
​@@honved1Channel 4 has no power.
@wodens-hitman1552
@wodens-hitman1552 9 ай бұрын
Brand the lefty ponse
@letsdebate839
@letsdebate839 9 ай бұрын
@@wodens-hitman1552 funny that as msn think he is right wing now 👋🤣
@catsdad2662
@catsdad2662 9 ай бұрын
Anyone who goes to the press before the police can't really be trusted ..can they ?
@annemarie3140
@annemarie3140 9 ай бұрын
He IS very smart...like some people believe.
@judeflynn9223
@judeflynn9223 9 ай бұрын
how do you know that
@tomimpala
@tomimpala 9 ай бұрын
I can understand being intimidated by going to police when you look at how cases get ignored and women get told it's very difficult for anything to happen for them.
@dewicripps6870
@dewicripps6870 9 ай бұрын
No I totally agree
@lukemurray4950
@lukemurray4950 9 ай бұрын
Not at all!
@nickydietrich5924
@nickydietrich5924 9 ай бұрын
I don't think we can have a discussion about these allegations unless they have been investigated by the police.
@melmorrison1400
@melmorrison1400 9 ай бұрын
The aim is to discredit brand and increase trust in the gutter press - whoops. That didn’t work out too well for them, did it.
@petegaslondon
@petegaslondon 3 ай бұрын
Yes we can
@dgarzaart2000
@dgarzaart2000 9 ай бұрын
It is hard to come forward when a person is sexually assaulted, but, obviously not impossible. That must be reported to the police immediately. Not, years later to a journalist.
@amytiffanyhemingway
@amytiffanyhemingway 9 ай бұрын
yes so that there is physical evidence. otherwise it is always only he said she said and no-one can ever really be sure.
@ritac3784
@ritac3784 9 ай бұрын
Russell had said for ages that he was a target waiting to be picked off. He knew it was coming, some ploy to remove him. But this is atrocious
@87Lohan
@87Lohan 9 ай бұрын
I’m surprised it’s taken so long knew it was a matter of time
@wentoneisendon6502
@wentoneisendon6502 9 ай бұрын
Or, maybe he's a disgusting person that's shrouded himself in an anti establishment rhetoric to cover up his past actions?
@Dragophonix
@Dragophonix 9 ай бұрын
​@@87LohanThey've been after him since they realised he just speaks his mind and is not one of them.
@user-mx7tx3jb7l
@user-mx7tx3jb7l 9 ай бұрын
I’ve spoken to several women about this and they ALL say something is definitely not right and it seems he is being targeted without any charges to defend. He was wild and for sure a bit of a sexual deviant. Why now do these people come out of the woodwork.
@Rachael121
@Rachael121 9 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯 and why go near him anyway if you supposedly know what he's like!!
@leighsherval1023
@leighsherval1023 9 ай бұрын
No you didnt
@surgigi1582
@surgigi1582 9 ай бұрын
"Why now do these people come out of the woodwork" You can come out about a crime whenever you want. OK
@surgigi1582
@surgigi1582 9 ай бұрын
"’ve spoken to several women about this and they ALL say something is definitely not right" in that case.....lol,.......I believe you're right, what a clown
@surgigi1582
@surgigi1582 9 ай бұрын
@@leighsherval1023 Of course he didn't, I bet he doesn't even know any woman.
@storegga
@storegga 8 ай бұрын
AlaRmInG ReAcTiOn suggests it was not the reaction desired
@dahee1
@dahee1 8 ай бұрын
@0:23 "thats not what's happening here" that is the problem with mainstream journalists. He didn't say, I don't believe it. He made a definite statement without having proof.
@kamilo369
@kamilo369 9 ай бұрын
Why is the media not talking enough about Jeffrey Epstein case? 😂😂😂
@equatorialjourney4478
@equatorialjourney4478 9 ай бұрын
Or , MORE IMPORTANTLY , why Brand himself was DEAFENINGLY silent & MIA when serial predators Epstein & Weinstein were in the news 🤔 Ever prepared to opine , shout and diss every other corrupt vile institution /individual but remarkably schtum w these two were front page news . Let’s not cherry pick too fast bc it’s pretty obvious who RB has been manipulating into his corner ( right wing conspiracy nutters have been played like a fiddle by this v clever puppeteer since Cov ) $$$$$ He will use those millions he has extracted to perpetuate his own self serving needs , AGAIN . Gotta hand it to him …he’s deft
@honved1
@honved1 9 ай бұрын
Because hes a dead American and his partner is rotting in jail?
@marlonblade007
@marlonblade007 9 ай бұрын
You know he's dead right
@RMFATO
@RMFATO 9 ай бұрын
They’re all lying and trying to silence online debate by saying they’re ‘shocked’ at the response. Josh keeps saying ‘good’ journalists..to me that means establishment cronies.
@stuweb5848
@stuweb5848 9 ай бұрын
I lost it at good journalist
@leelyons3443
@leelyons3443 9 ай бұрын
​@@stuweb5848me too bs detector on
@dadsaccount2587
@dadsaccount2587 9 ай бұрын
I am impressed that there is still critical thinking being practised. Why is this considered troubling?
@hetmanjz
@hetmanjz 9 ай бұрын
​@@stuweb5848Sounds like you lost your own self-respect when you started to believe that good journalism wasn't possible.
@craigjohnstone1461
@craigjohnstone1461 9 ай бұрын
Its all about the online harms bill etc! And he's told to much in his videos.
@googoogjoobgoogoogjoob
@googoogjoobgoogoogjoob 9 ай бұрын
Useful tip going forward: if someone assaults you, it's a crime - report it immediately to the police, rather than the media. A possible added bonus - maybe other cases will be viewed more favourably by the courts.
@KM-pq7sr
@KM-pq7sr 9 ай бұрын
The activists, oops I mean journalists, should be sued for slander and defamation.
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