The album that nearly killed Brian Wilson

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David Hartley

David Hartley

2 жыл бұрын

Smile was meant to be the follow-up album to Pet Sounds from The Beach Boys. It was highly anticipated to be the greatest album of all time, better than Revolver and Sgt. Pepper. However, the album was never completed until nearly 40 years later, when Brian Wilson finally presented Smile in London in 2004.

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@SRDhain
@SRDhain 9 ай бұрын
SMILE and PET SOUNDS contain some of the most emotionally moving music I've ever heard. There's an AI infused version of smile.on KZfaq which is one of the best versions ive ever heard. It's sad that Brian spent so many years not being able to decipher his own work due to his mental health issues , but I'm glad he became well enough to give us more than one official version of something that could be deemed SMILE.
@ChromeDestiny
@ChromeDestiny 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. It's worth noting too that during '67 - '71 bits of Smile were salvaged for various Beach Boys albums.
@jamestulk5111
@jamestulk5111 Жыл бұрын
I saw BW in Melbourbe Australia with the Smile show. People turned up in fire helmets. It was totaly stunning.
@pedrorocha9722
@pedrorocha9722 Жыл бұрын
A slow start? In the very first writing sessions with VD Parks, they wrote Surfs up, Wonderful, Heroes and Villains and Cabinessence. Almost half of SMiLE... And a hell of a great sand box!
@PhuckHue2
@PhuckHue2 10 ай бұрын
Then the drugs took over
@infectioussneeze9099
@infectioussneeze9099 8 ай бұрын
as van dykes himself has stated and denied, drugs helped him work longer hours and its not true of what people like you keep mentioning.@@PhuckHue2
@ChipsAplentyBand
@ChipsAplentyBand Жыл бұрын
Not only was SMiLE wonderful when Brian finished it with Darian Sahanaja's Protools assistance--and I got to hear Brian & Band perform it live in 2004 (Ann Arbor) and 2005 (Chicago) in person--but I was SHOCKED later in 2011 when I first heard THE SMILE SESSIONS release of The Beach Boys' version of the same material because in relation to the 2004 BW Band recording the Beach Boys version itself was NEARLY COMPLETE. Unless Brian had much further to go with writing more BB version material for the original album and then never covered that extra creative distance ahead of the 2004 version but merely 'reconstructed' it to where the BB had left off, the original version was itself REALLY ALMOST DONE when it got shelved. The 2004 BW Band version is very satisfying and of a perfectly suitable length, ending with GOOD VIBRATIONS (including VDP's unaltered lyics) as the conclusion of the song cycle. To me, the special tragedy of SMiLE is that it originally got SO close to completion; but its vindication in 2004--and especially the praise Brian and VDP received for it at that time--including from Paul McCartney and George Martin, who both WELL UNDERSTOOD its historical context and its artistic achievement--though long in coming, was both sweet and much-deserved. Whereas The Beatles transitioned successfully through the self-reinvention of their public image as Sgt. Pepper's Band, the parallel commercial-pop to Picasso-esque art-pop self-reinvention that The Beach Boys MIGHT have made as well never happened, for the various reasons that biographers cover in their studies of BB history of the time. However, the self-reinvention path also led (in some part, however small) to the end of The Beatles after a decade, whereas The Beach Boys in one form or another have continued down to the present. I find this a strangely interesting, mirror-image reversal of things for the two groups, both of which underwent interpersonal turmoil along the way. For The Beatles this turmoil proved fatal to the group identity; for The Beach Boys it proved fracturing.
@xavierrose8208
@xavierrose8208 Жыл бұрын
Brian was a GENIUS
@Withcare11
@Withcare11 Жыл бұрын
Is
@cherriberri7161
@cherriberri7161 Жыл бұрын
And madman!
@gramophoneguydylan6854
@gramophoneguydylan6854 10 ай бұрын
Is
@DummyYEEEAAHHHHH
@DummyYEEEAAHHHHH 6 ай бұрын
​@@cherriberri7161no a misdiagnosed man suffering from debilitating mental illness...all geniuses pay a price in one way or another for their gifts....
@deanbairos6476
@deanbairos6476 4 ай бұрын
Yeah!
@smautomat
@smautomat 10 ай бұрын
Smile, as an album concept, was so far ahead of its time that it was necessary to wait for the proper technology to actually be invented in order to complete it.
@DummyYEEEAAHHHHH
@DummyYEEEAAHHHHH 6 ай бұрын
Brian was misdiagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia but later correctly diagnosed with schizo-effective disorder....God bless Brian Wilson...a champion advocate for mental health and one of thr greatest composers in the history of music. He transcended rock n roll and is a living legend.
@Sam97812
@Sam97812 Жыл бұрын
0:48 Revolver was 1966 not 1967
@fad23
@fad23 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite novels is Glimpses, by Lewis Shiner. It's about a man who can travel in time to collect music that was never properly released. Smile was a huge chunk of that story. That was how I got turned onto Pet Sounds.
@ianwatkins6202
@ianwatkins6202 10 ай бұрын
Nice little video 😊Enjoyed watching!
@therocknrollgamer9572
@therocknrollgamer9572 8 ай бұрын
I really wish Smile wouldl've actually had been released in 1967. Also, I admire both The Beatles and The Beach Boys so much, and I can gurantee that their rivalry was a friendly rivalry. Long Live The Beach Boys
@allenjones3130
@allenjones3130 7 ай бұрын
"Orange Crate Art" is a great(if also underappreciated) album!
@crackasmilezenpyre7901
@crackasmilezenpyre7901 Жыл бұрын
Sergeant pepper blew his mind and drove him crazy trying to compete with it
@davidhartley94
@davidhartley94 Жыл бұрын
Sgt Pepper is great as well haha
@randalclarke5487
@randalclarke5487 Жыл бұрын
Twas the speed, acid and lack of support from Capitol...very simply, like Syd Barrett, there were too many cosmic trips inside the mind and ego and they just said "fuck it..."
@missmygamergirl445
@missmygamergirl445 Жыл бұрын
Sad his immense fear of failure insured that he did when he had already done enough to have succeeded wildly if he released it..
@IndyDefense
@IndyDefense 11 ай бұрын
Ive always wondered what Brian's reaction to Abbey Road was, because side 2 of that album is essentially what he was trying to do with Smile.
@josephharnett5075
@josephharnett5075 11 ай бұрын
Well I not sure if you knew but Smile was before That
@greenmanalishi6963
@greenmanalishi6963 Жыл бұрын
Do you edit videos using adobe premiere?
@purevycara
@purevycara 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!
@davidhartley94
@davidhartley94 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jeffwalker6815
@jeffwalker6815 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't this that section near the end of Walk Hard?
@JFABALL2022
@JFABALL2022 Жыл бұрын
We heard songs from Smile on 20/20 1969
@vincevirtua
@vincevirtua Жыл бұрын
Also the song Surf's Up on Surf's Up 1971.
@jeff-6943
@jeff-6943 Жыл бұрын
@@vincevirtua also if you listen closely, on the song “Little Bird” Dennis uses the “Child is Father” Backing track on the end coda.
@vincevirtua
@vincevirtua Жыл бұрын
@@jeff-6943 sure, though talking strictly of Smile tunes. Little Bird could have probably fit but wasn’t a Smile tune.
@jeff-6943
@jeff-6943 Жыл бұрын
@@vincevirtua oh yes definitely but I’m just saying, the snare a trumpet riff are quite similar if not the same
@Meneervdberg
@Meneervdberg Ай бұрын
Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, 20/20, Sunflower and Surf's up contain songs and ideas from Smile
@plasteredbastard
@plasteredbastard Жыл бұрын
it's a challenge to put the finishing touches on a teen symphony to god when you're as far removed from teendom as wilson was when it was completed. we'll never know what the final product could've been or how our ears might have fallen under its spell, its one of those grand mysteries that will remain. i think it would have eclipsed the prevailing genius of peppers.
@nimck6642
@nimck6642 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever considered Brian talking out of one side of his mouth is a result of his hearing loss? I just realised he speaks in the direction of his ear that can hear... I wonder if he developed this habit so he could hear himself better when he spoke. Literally just thought about this for some reason haha
@Mozart1220
@Mozart1220 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly it. I had a boss once that did the same thing.
@99somerville
@99somerville Жыл бұрын
That is not uncommon for partially deaf people.
@DistantLights
@DistantLights Жыл бұрын
Yeh that's the reason why
@donmehl556
@donmehl556 Жыл бұрын
No. It was the drugs his psychoanalyst prescribed.
@Moonews
@Moonews Жыл бұрын
I'm deaf in one ear and my mouth is normal, though I did have two good ears until my late teens.
@NateTheGnat
@NateTheGnat 5 ай бұрын
Smiley Smile is my favorite album.
@mikeymutual5489
@mikeymutual5489 Жыл бұрын
(1) The rivalry between the Beatles and the Beach Boys started in 1964. (2) Revolver was released in 1966 (not 1967). (3) Revolver was not an influence to create the "Smile" album. Instead, it was an attempt to "reclaim" American music from British bands.
@deepbreather
@deepbreather 2 ай бұрын
Wrong. At least one influence: For no 1, 1, 1derful.
@mikeymutual5489
@mikeymutual5489 2 ай бұрын
@@deepbreather Make some sense, please.
@deepbreather
@deepbreather 2 ай бұрын
@@mikeymutual5489 I did. Unmutual.
@DredgenX
@DredgenX 2 ай бұрын
Pet sounds is a masterpiece! Listened to lots of music and this is still one of the best.
@davedunhill8521
@davedunhill8521 9 ай бұрын
Good video - thanks for sharing. I am convinced that had this album been released, it would have been the greatest of all time. When the Smile sessions was released it blew my mind - amazing stuff by a true genius. I absolutely love The Beatles but Smile is better in my opinion. One last comment around the argument with Van Dyke Parks. This occurred mainly from persistent challenges of the band over lyrics. Mike Love was the main instigator of this and Brian had become so unstable that he could not defend Van Dyke leaving him very hurt and disappointed. Van Dyke therefore left the project. With so many things going wrong and people not backing him, Brian simply shelved the project and bottled up all the feelings and emotions over many years.
@zippymufo9765
@zippymufo9765 6 ай бұрын
Bullshit
@impalaman9707
@impalaman9707 7 ай бұрын
Having listened to Smile sessions all the way through, I don't think of it as Dennis famously said--"so good it makes Pet Sounds stink"---but rather, a companion piece, or a sequel to Pet Sounds. At least that's the way I interpret Smile. Its a continuation of the story from Pet Sounds
@OskarSvan
@OskarSvan Жыл бұрын
Background music 4:50?
@Gildedowlmedia338
@Gildedowlmedia338 Жыл бұрын
Brian’s performance of Surf’s Up on the 1967 tv special “Leonard Bernstein’s Pop: The Rock Revolution”
@zoso73
@zoso73 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Thank you.
@davidhartley94
@davidhartley94 Жыл бұрын
No problem!
@NOWtheband
@NOWtheband 11 күн бұрын
You must be talking about Stars And Stripes Volume One....
@michaellazzeri2069
@michaellazzeri2069 10 ай бұрын
Young man : Ok, 1st : in the summer of '63, BW also did not tour. Instead, Al Jardine returned to the group, took his place onstage, as BRian stayed home & composed what became the " Surfer Girl " album , re;leased in September of '63, the 3rd album the group produced that year ! -------------2nd : When he stopped for good in late '64, as the group toured with at 1st Glen Campbell, & then, Bruce Johnston, writing the music that would become " The Beach Boys Today " & then, " Summer Days & Nights " , both, in '65. It wasn't until the fall of '65, as the group went to Japan on tour, that BW & Tony Asher began work on what became, " Pet Sounds " . ---------OK ??????? PLEASE, get your history straight. -----------------------MJL, 76 y/o, & a fan since the Fall of 1962.
@tf2fanboy
@tf2fanboy Ай бұрын
Why is there an AI-generated thumbnail? The rest of the video is fine, but this really bothers me. It's not like there aren't any real photos of this time period.
@robertsterner408
@robertsterner408 Жыл бұрын
Smile was supposed to have good vibrations as head song
@sustavofring5696
@sustavofring5696 10 ай бұрын
revolver was released in 1966 not '67
@saturatedneowax
@saturatedneowax 9 ай бұрын
7:38 lol, I do that to songs too
@slimshadow49
@slimshadow49 8 күн бұрын
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@sjdrifter72
@sjdrifter72 2 ай бұрын
SMiLE would've been a flop in the States the same way Pet Sounds was, but it would have been a success in the UK and Europe. And no, it would not have eclipsed neither Revolver or Sgt. Pepper in the general public's eyes, only with Beach Boys and Brian Wilson fans.
@gittahfiend
@gittahfiend 2 ай бұрын
Why do people always say the album that nearly killed him? It was the DRUGS.
@sanyo8440
@sanyo8440 10 ай бұрын
SMiLE had the potential to be a better listen than most Beatles albums. Just off the lyrics alone, they really appealed to the "life" ethos without sounding too pretentious, cryptic or downright bizarre like in many Beatles songs. Imo the final release and some fan edits/rearrangements rival the White Album. Better than Sgt. Peppers for sure.
@NoUploadJustComment
@NoUploadJustComment 9 ай бұрын
The Beatles rivalry thing was a bit overdone. Paul said his favorite song ever is God Only Knows.
@BigSlickNuts2
@BigSlickNuts2 Жыл бұрын
Thank-you
@michaellazzeri2069
@michaellazzeri2069 10 ай бұрын
The music was all Brian Wilson------------and, Van Dyke Parks . The rest of the group had nothing to do with the creation of " Smile ". ------------------------MJL, 76 y/o
@davedunhill8521
@davedunhill8521 6 ай бұрын
Good argument that 😂
@notanotherjamesmurphy5574
@notanotherjamesmurphy5574 7 ай бұрын
1:27 haha
@kookadams85
@kookadams85 Жыл бұрын
Pet Sounds is THE greatest l.p ever, of any decade! Smiley smile & Wild Honey are great too as was Summer Days, Today,All summer long & later w/ Sunflower, surfs up, Holland, & lastly Love you .
@admiralkrankandhismightyba158
@admiralkrankandhismightyba158 Ай бұрын
The previously unreleased smile recordings, as we have them, are a country mile better than sergeant peppers. But thats not too hard, cause peppers isnt very good overall, being half duds. Anyway, the travesty of it all was a little more work with thw mastertapes you'd have a complete masterpiece of an album.
@buddysteele7624
@buddysteele7624 Жыл бұрын
“Kind of the leader of The Beach Boys” Brian didn’t have schizophrenia, he was doing wayyy too many drugs. this guy barely did his research and it shows over and over in this video but regardless I’m just happy there’s more Beach Boys content.
@morganghetti
@morganghetti Жыл бұрын
"Wilson is diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder and mild bipolar disorder." He was mentally ill.
@saturdaysfather
@saturdaysfather Жыл бұрын
brian was literally diagnosed
@darko149
@darko149 Жыл бұрын
Ok you have a few things wrong but all in all you made a great video.
@DanTheMan27
@DanTheMan27 Жыл бұрын
I never knew Brian had a falling out with Van Dyke Parks. I thought he just quit working with the band and wrote for other people, I guess Love and Mercy left out a few things
@darko149
@darko149 Жыл бұрын
No vandyke had a falling out with Mike Love not Brian.
@DanTheMan27
@DanTheMan27 Жыл бұрын
@@darko149 That makes more sense. Van Dyke’s lyrics are the kind that someone like Mike Love would have hated, even in the movie he objected to the lyrics “To ride in the rough and sunny down snuff” which while they make no sense, at least they rhyme and it’s very arty, something that Brian appeared to be very keen on producing for SMiLE. Mike just didn’t seem to appreciate art that didn’t have a formula
@davidnissim589
@davidnissim589 Жыл бұрын
No, it was Mike who forced Van Dyke out of the picture. Brian and Van Dyke worked together on other projects in the years to come, and eventually finished SMiLE together too
@michaelslavin1601
@michaelslavin1601 Жыл бұрын
@@darko149you’re right about Mike Love but he was victimised Brian’s by Brian’s buffoonery (his words to Dorian Lyndsey in 2013)
@99somerville
@99somerville Жыл бұрын
Van Dyke left because of the problems with Mike and others and had a job opportunity someplace else. I think he saw the handwriting on the wall and didn't want to continue the battle.
@arricammarques1955
@arricammarques1955 Жыл бұрын
Musical mental breakdown set to music?
@Mozart1220
@Mozart1220 Жыл бұрын
Musical genius far beyond the hack (Mike Love) who criticized it. Is Sgt Pepper a "musical mental breakdown"?
@ChipsAplentyBand
@ChipsAplentyBand Жыл бұрын
I don't really think so (but intriguing question!). More like flight-of-fancy, dream-like music breaking the formulaic bounds of commercial pop and VDP writing lyrics in a partially-fractured idiom similar to Picasso, only using words.
@Colin-Fenix
@Colin-Fenix Жыл бұрын
The Beach Boys were never near as great as The Beatles.
@timducote5713
@timducote5713 8 ай бұрын
True. The Beach Boys were great but appealed to a certain strata of listeners. The Beatles were far more accessible.
@Logan912
@Logan912 16 күн бұрын
The Beatles were never held back like The Beach Boys were, and I'd say SMiLE is better than anything The Beatles made (or at least Brian Wilson Presents SMiLE anyway) although I do still think Rubber Soul and Sgt. Pepper are better than Pet Sounds.
@cherriberri7161
@cherriberri7161 Жыл бұрын
Love Pet Sounds but it’s not greater that Rubber Soul! No way!
@PhuckHue2
@PhuckHue2 10 ай бұрын
Drugs destroyed Brian like it did Sly Stone. Thats why Smile never came to fruition. Brian lost focus in the music. John and Paul might have dabbled a little but always kept their focus on the music
@Logan912
@Logan912 16 күн бұрын
It had a lot more to do with his then-undiagnosed schizoaffective disorder than drugs. Brian had already been using drugs by the time he got to SMiLE, and he kept using drugs for years afterwards too.
@allanfarran364
@allanfarran364 6 ай бұрын
No where near as good as the beatles
@a.hardin620
@a.hardin620 4 ай бұрын
Maybe the group was not as good. But Brian Wilson certainly equaled and probably surpassed Paul and John in song writing abilities and musical arrangement. He got too far gone into personal problems to make the most of his gifts.
@Mozart1220
@Mozart1220 Жыл бұрын
It should have killed the Beach Boys. Brian should have gone solo.
@bazbuncher6948
@bazbuncher6948 Жыл бұрын
Don,t forget the drugs a s well.
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