The ancient history of the modern hamburger | Edible Histories Episode 4

The ancient history of the modern hamburger | Edible Histories Episode 4 | BBC Ideas

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4 жыл бұрын

We tend to think of the burger a quintessentially American invention - the fastest of fast food. But the story of the hamburger goes back further than you might think - right back to the Romans. Food historian Annie Gray gets stuck in.
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@seanhickling7340 2 жыл бұрын

Someone needs to research the origins of katsup (ketchup) which originally didn't contain tomatoes but instead was made from mushrooms.

@pine1780 2 жыл бұрын

I read it was fish fermented.

@sageliketheherb6248 2 жыл бұрын

Who are you referring to?

@exu7325 2 жыл бұрын

Nah, not mushrooms. It was made from fermented fish, it originated from southern Chinese province of Guangdong and Fujian.

@dark_rage6959 Жыл бұрын

Fun fact : ketchup was used to be medicine but then changed into spices when people used it with their food instead of using it fir medicine changing the way ketchup moved throughout history

@nameprivate2194 Жыл бұрын

No, no, that's _catsup,_ C-A-T-S-U-P, or _ketchup,_ mmm, even more delicious when mixed with mayonnaise on a beefburger, maybe dip the french fries in the in ketchup/mayo sauce, MMM, typing this post is making me hungry :-P

@sanskritidutta 4 жыл бұрын

I want a burger now 😭

@shadfrigui 4 жыл бұрын

I laughed at the end! *Le hamburGER* with the French accent 😂.

@bbcideas 4 жыл бұрын

😀

@johanliebert6876 2 жыл бұрын

French people: why you gonna be so rude

@shadmanhasan4205 2 жыл бұрын

@@johanliebert6876 LOL 😆: 🎶 *Why u gotta be so Rude~* 🎵 🎶 *Don't u know I'm Human Too~* 🎵

@carltonbanks1240 9 ай бұрын

Instantly thought of pink panther when she said it 😂

@Ghanshyam00000 7 ай бұрын

Hi, I've never tasted hamburger but I think looks very delicious maybe the taste will be beyond the world however which the accent you were speaking in in this video you could've spoken slow

@mimamo 7 ай бұрын

I love how a British broadcaster makes it sound like the British invented the modern hamburger, when it was even in Britain called "hamburger" after the city Hamburg where the hamburger actually originated from. The name kinda gives it away, no?

@cannabisPREVENTION 3 ай бұрын

I mean, they literally explained it in the video. Do you honestly not see how dumb your logic is? Just because something was named after a city, doesn't mean is has to be from that city. Hawaiian Pizza wasn't invented in Hawaii, and it wasn't Caesar that invented the salad.

@alicialagos3130 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video thanks...

@julianpalm777 Жыл бұрын

THANKS FOR THAT.

@SevenDeMagnus 3 жыл бұрын

Very cool

@pommes0078 Жыл бұрын

The funny thing In Germany is when you’re a citizen of Hamburg you’re called Hamburger it would make sense that this is where the name comes from…

@royaleclan8498 Жыл бұрын

Yes also we have meat pattys Served in a breadroll with onions,pickles,salad,Mustard, Ketchup all over germany since idk 200 years or more(without Ketchup ofc)

@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv 10 ай бұрын

@@royaleclan8498cheese?

@davidjuarez1834 2 ай бұрын

According to legend, the hamburger was invented at the 1885 Erie County Fair in Hamburg, New York, by brothers Frank and Charles Menches.

@wiganfan3373 2 ай бұрын

@@royaleclan8498 Indeed, I have family recipes originating from Garding and Bockhorn from the late 17th century

@vized-skyshock1510 2 жыл бұрын

It's from Deutschland

@makoto278 3 ай бұрын

The Romans in invented it

@Fearlessechoes73 2 ай бұрын

@makoto278 what the Roman made was more of a sausage. Did you watch the video?

@Catholicophobia 2 жыл бұрын

I'm making a ground wagyu burger now. Lettuce, tomato, yellow onion and swiss cheese with olive oil mayo and a tiny bit of ketchup on a toasted bun. Hamburgers are the best thing ever thought up as far as food goes. Oh, I'm also putting half an avocado. 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

@Normaldude444 2 жыл бұрын

Funny name username lol, and that sounds absolutely delicious omg I’ve never had wagyu but i really want to, recently I have tried candied bacon on burgers as well as fried cheese I would def recommend trying that out on them!

@hariletchumis4748 4 жыл бұрын

Loving it

@bbcideas 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@roymustang5850 2 жыл бұрын

The japanese love the hamburger steak ver, thry basically Staples of meal set shop there to make hamburger steak paired with baked potato or even rice, that's why sometimes you gonna be confused as hamburger can mean two things, the hamburger steak meal set and the Hamburger sandwich type

@Hagbayon Жыл бұрын

Watching this while eating a Jollibee burger :)

@tamara_diamonds422 11 ай бұрын

Who cares

@Hagbayon 11 ай бұрын

I guess the one who actually cared to comment?

@musteroogway6962 6 ай бұрын

@@tamara_diamonds422u cared

@HumphreyAlphaandOmega 3 ай бұрын

Yall be nice please

@paarthwardhan1263 4 жыл бұрын

Which Hamburger do you like to eat?

@davidblackwood106 Жыл бұрын

The way she said "kebabs" though... 😂

@stevenmarkhansen 2 жыл бұрын

you can grind UP a lot of things❣️

@Talangtalangtanghulu 2 жыл бұрын

"Kobobs" 🤣🤣🤣😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@kareemelrefaay5300 13 күн бұрын

Hamburger have nothing to do with hamburg or Germany as shaped ground meat (patty or meatballs) is ancient invention found in roman empire Arabic peninsula and middtranian countries to preserve leftover meat by grinding it with spices and sometimes vegetables so the name is just a coincidence and I'm not sure who had the modem version of the Hamburger first but USA isn't a bad guess

@davidjuarez1834 2 ай бұрын

The hamburger was invented in hamburg new york

@Unbought 2 жыл бұрын

The initial description sounds more like sausages.

@danbee6103 4 жыл бұрын

though according to resourceful bbc video on 'pthalmates' (not sure spelling is right) chemical compound residues, are prominent in fast foods from the surfaces they are cooked on or used to prep the foods. make your own burger, though they should have let the economy 'respond accordingly' yet we always have a PRIME EXAMPLE of private industry ready to NOT HONOR THE HONOR SYSTEM👮‍♂️

@JCMcGee Ай бұрын

Ehhhh.......The hamburger was first brought to USA by soldiers returning from Vietnam. The name is derived from the Vietnamese word for Cow and Chicken - bò. and gà. - bo ga - boga - burga -burger. I got a PhE (1 step beyond PhD ) in etmology online via groupon...so, I dun ma research!

@sharkwhisperer7326 Жыл бұрын

The burger is one of the greatest and tastiest foods in all the world! I better go to bed or find myself in a drive thru! 😅😊🍔🍔

@danpillai7618 2 жыл бұрын

Viva La ASDC Diphu.👍🏻

@dreamermagister8561 Жыл бұрын

Pickled oysters didnt die. You are breaking my heart.

@christopherwonch1726 Жыл бұрын

ate a burger while watching this

@maxstar301 2 ай бұрын

Well bcc ideas your a lot smarter like all of this stuff

@yasashii89 2 жыл бұрын

"We"? I always just assumed Americans thought of hamburgers as an American invention, given their reputation when it comes to geography. It is actually German. Look up "ründstuck warm". Hamburg had this way before America as a country even came into existence.

@salmathecopt7969 2 жыл бұрын

Not remotely similar

@yasashii89 2 жыл бұрын

@@salmathecopt7969 They're near identical.

@enriquegonzales8186 2 жыл бұрын

Oh a nutjob showed up. I gave ya the benefit of the doubt and googled "rundstuck warm" and it doesn't resemble the burger at all. That's a far stretch weirdo.

@ahmadkouis2748 2 жыл бұрын

@@yasashii89 hamburger we know and love today is an american thing , german only eat the meat ,

@yasashii89 2 жыл бұрын

@@ahmadkouis2748 No, they have the bread as well. Germans are crazy about bread.

@Dustfellsans135 3 жыл бұрын

@Nathalens 2 жыл бұрын

claiming Hamburger from united states is like claiming Kentucky fried chicken from germany.

@ErikPT Жыл бұрын

I contest this. America not only popularized the staple was revolutionized

@Nathalens Жыл бұрын

@@ErikPT yes. kentucky friend chicken is from germany.

@fmita_ Жыл бұрын

Claiming hamburger is from Germany is like claiming German’s created the idea of minced beef

@kobe3955 Жыл бұрын

@@fmita_ Burgers are from Germany 🤷‍♂️

@ZalamaTheDragonGod Жыл бұрын

@@Nathalens *The Romans

@fariddarkazanli8624 2 жыл бұрын

I thought Louise's invented the Hamburger

@captainamericakidfan8650 3 жыл бұрын

I Like Burger

@joan_007 Жыл бұрын

They make good videos but I wish the reporters would speak a little slower🥲

@vanceolson1308 4 ай бұрын

What about Louis lumch

@boredminecrafter7822 9 ай бұрын

A man wanted a sandwich, and he created the hamburger

@wiganfan3373 2 ай бұрын

a man wanted a sandwich and created nothing

@Goofypringles 3 жыл бұрын

Btw I’m in schoolwork and I want McDonald’s

@user-uv3yc5bn7o Күн бұрын

White Castle PIG FOOD is a Million Lightyears from being a Hamburger.

@yowifeinmydm1609 Жыл бұрын

This video is just completely wrong. She even Mentions White Castle which officially said it has its origin from Germany.

@ZalamaTheDragonGod Жыл бұрын

So, by definition, not completely wrong? Not to mention Germany was mentioned at the beginning?

@yowifeinmydm1609 Жыл бұрын

@@ZalamaTheDragonGod Germany isn’t mention anywhere just ,,Hamburg". To put a patty inside a bun was not a US invention it was a German.

@yumalove7223 Жыл бұрын

@@yowifeinmydm1609Hamburg is in germany

@andrewstrongman305 6 ай бұрын

Before McDonalds was a thing, every Aussie fish 'n chip shop also sold hamburgers. Ours typically included a fried egg and a slice of beetroot. Also, there is no such thing as 'Pickles', pickling is a process that can be applied to a range of vegetables. Pickled cucumber has never been popular here, despite Maccas and Hungry Jacks (Burger King).

@lynnodonnell4764 4 ай бұрын

My understanding is hamburger came from HAM Germany

@davidjuarez1834 2 ай бұрын

According to legend, the hamburger was invented at the 1885 Erie County Fair in Hamburg, New York, by brothers Frank and Charles Menches.

@Jojo-jp4ro Жыл бұрын

Burger lore

@captainfyita2682 2 жыл бұрын

Lefteyva meat?, the raymans?! what language are you speaking in?

@jzzzzz8362 11 ай бұрын

He was wrong, hamburger is American food. It was called hamburger because the meat at the time came from Germany. First ever Hamburger restaurant is in America today as well

@RonieNerbes-mt9ko 4 ай бұрын

I Love Jonna Napire 🧡💛❤ March 25, 2024

@azury3358 4 жыл бұрын

Noice

@Goofypringles 3 жыл бұрын

Hamburger

@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin 9 ай бұрын

The Anglos trying to write Europeans out of history as usual, even pathetically trying to connect it to Britain itself. The Hamburger is a German food of course, though the American style so popularized around the world through its fast food industry presumably did indeed take shape in New York.

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@michaelvanwynsberg3737 Жыл бұрын

video mentions, in passing, the "Horse Meat Scandal"... o_0

@erikschiegg68 2 жыл бұрын

Hamburger is not the name of the product, but the provenance of the vendors. Frikadells in milk bread was the hamburger's original product name. Frikawhat? Hamburger!

@TMS2211 11 ай бұрын

Hamburg steak 🎩 Burgers 🇺🇸

@wispa1a 8 ай бұрын

I miss wimpy and great British burger.

@wiganfan3373 2 ай бұрын

Still a few Wimpy knocking around

@rng8119 Жыл бұрын

biggest lie in history, what americans call hamburger is a recipe of rundstuck warm which is a traditional dish from the city of Hamburg that comes in different varieties, in germany the common rundstuck warm is pretty much the same sadnwich foodchains like Arby's sell today but they also used hamburg steaks to make the sandwich, the pickles, the meat, the preparation, all invented in germany far before coming to america, all what americans did was to add cheddar cheese (which is british) and the vegetables other than the pickles, but the original hamburger recipe is german and invented in germany, all these propaganda of american origin is because americans are the best and they can only be the source of all the things you eat, like the huge lie of america being the origin of pizza while pizzaiolos existed in naples since the 18th century

@ZalamaTheDragonGod Жыл бұрын

Rundstück Warm. We don't eat flat meatballs on bread and gravy. Well we do, but then we call them Salisbury Steaks. So a restaurant decided to replace roast beef with flat meatballs, implied before introduction to America. And with pickles. Interesting. Could you add any more information

@Kjetilstorm 11 ай бұрын

@@ZalamaTheDragonGod EU people cannot stand the idea that what the world today understands to be a hamburger originated in America, this makes them tilted. If they want to believe that Germans were going around handing out sesame seed buns with romaine lettuce and angus beef patties with ketchup, mustard, tomatos 4 trillion years ago then let them. The concept of having protein with bread probably happened around 14000 years ago in the middle east somewhere. So if you use the appearant EU definition of "invented" than nearly everything was probably invented in the middle east thousands of years ago. Ridiculous this conversation is still happening.

@coolstorybro6076 2 жыл бұрын

So basically the hamburger is an American invention; and beef patties and balls have the ancient origin and not actual hamburgers. ok.

@IamDaWanderer Жыл бұрын

The hamburger is actually originated from German. Although it was a German immigrant that brought the Hamburger recipe to America

@squadmaster114 10 ай бұрын

@@IamDaWandereryou’re thinking of the hamburg steak.

@IamDaWanderer 10 ай бұрын

@@squadmaster114 i guess you're right

@havvagokce1441 11 күн бұрын

I hope you think, that humanity, as a whole, who loves putting anything, preferably protein, in their bread slices or bread rolls or bread equivalent rice balls, creating sandwiches of thousands of kinds, didn't put them grilled or fried meat patties in their bread making ekmek arası köfte s(literally meatball in-between bread), kebabs rolls(like burrito but has cooked meatballs and greens in it) and the like... Humans put anything in bread. For seafood options see onigiri s and balık ekmek(literally fish bread)... Hamburger, can be an American invention, sure, not saying no, but only as "a specific kind of meat patty sandwich". Not as the "first ever meat patty sandwich".

@havvagokce1441 11 күн бұрын

We saw that cooked meat patties of various kinds existed around from roman times. Bread(sssss) existed before them and is very widespread. Humans are both lazy and intention prone creatures. Anything that makes carrying and eating a valuable food item will be done if technology and religion permits. Putting cooked meat in bread is not that hard to accomplish. And very easy to serve food as, especially if you're an old style crowded family, which everyone will grab their bread and go out to their duties like seeding and harvesting, shepherding, washing, wool/string/clothes making (and playing and carrying water like we kids did because houses didn't have water then)...😅

@rinokumera5907 7 ай бұрын

Knew it wasen’t from the U.S.

@ii_tfnwrmarmy7564 5 күн бұрын

Yeah but the Hamburger you eat and know today was renovated by the Americans.

@ProjectCOOP 8 ай бұрын

The modern burger is german-american. They make up a plurarity of white Americans though so aren't noticed as a distinct group.

@chiangmei1265 11 ай бұрын

Pov american try to steal food 😂

@ethantran196 2 жыл бұрын

hamBuRgeR

@calebhenderson6507 3 ай бұрын

Damn so America cant even claim one of their most popular food items. Cmon give them something lol

@bz938 Ай бұрын

Any dish with tomatoes or potatoes is not european as those things come from the America's. Nothing is entirely new so it doesn't make sense to look back so far that things aren't recognizable. America standardized the hamburger and added cheese. So I'd say it's American enough.

@redmi9anio Жыл бұрын

👍😃 Hey...i know a good burger. There is the Ramly Burger 🇲🇾

@BigGfromgrouphome 9 ай бұрын

Based on this. The hamburger is American. Like anything modern it is inspired from something else. The hamburger is still American.

@masterguntv591 2 ай бұрын

grissinbon a lei i famiglia messere

@bariscoskun8534 2 жыл бұрын

Hamburgers are Italian?😳😳😳😳😳

@kobe3955 Жыл бұрын

No they are German they are from Hamburg in Germany but America steals the idea

@ZalamaTheDragonGod Жыл бұрын

@@kobe3955 I'm glad the idea wasn't stolen from the Romans then, almost had me worried.

@bjornsalak 8 ай бұрын

@muse_1463 2 жыл бұрын

@39-nguyenhongquan84 2 жыл бұрын

speak nineteen to the dozen 😃?

@eegiiegiimaa5549 3 ай бұрын

Burger history is Mongolia

@india-inc163 4 жыл бұрын

Hamburger with goodness of heart diseases 🤪

@funkycord1336 2 жыл бұрын

Who knew heart disease could taste so good

@albertson8181 2 күн бұрын

someone show tom holland this video

@caliboy8740 2 ай бұрын

There’s a difference between inventing the term hamburger and perfecting what we know as a hamburger. It’s a quintessential American staple. Far from the origin.

@laSimp1icite 11 ай бұрын

Does anyone go to Hamburg for a proper modern style burger??? Lol no. The modern burger that everyone eats is American 100%. The Hamburg steak sandwich is doused with gravy and is not remotely close to the modern sandwich. No burger in Europe competes with the best American styles of burger. The Oklahoma smash burger might as well be a national culinary treasure.

@TheRealguyinvideo Ай бұрын

Cheese burgers are American if you guys have a problem with that romove your cheese from. You’re burgers

@russellgrimes811 3 жыл бұрын

The narrator speaks too fast. It is off-putting.

@joel46n24 2 жыл бұрын

Poshh

@Dustfellsans135 3 жыл бұрын

Why

@Dustfellsans135 3 жыл бұрын

Umm

@deo_exus2041 2 жыл бұрын

German invention not American Edit: This is one year ago and you people are still arguing?

@Elijah-cy9do 7 ай бұрын

Nope that's not where the burger we know today came from, and roast pork in a bun isn't a burger

@alexanderboulton2123 7 ай бұрын

Everything that is "American" is probably either German or Italian

@garrynewman6211 7 ай бұрын

@@Elijah-cy9doThe hamburger we know of today? “Hamburger”, like the city Hamburg in Germany?

@Elijah-cy9do 7 ай бұрын

@garrynewman6211 it's just a name, lots of food were named after places where they didn't come from, French Fries or Chips didn't come from France

@deo_exus2041 7 ай бұрын

@Elijah-cy9do Hamburgers were first created in Hamburg, Germany. The dish was a popular street food at the time, served with onions and spices on top of a patty of ground beef. Evidence suggests that either the United States or Germany (the city of Hamburg) was the first country where two slices of bread and a ground beef patty were combined into a "hamburger sandwich" and sold Two sites saying that it was Hamburg, Germany that invented the hamburger. Sorry, but I am going to believe the majority on this one. Though there are some arguments that the US made it but there are more for Germany

@skiphopflipflopdripdrop 4 жыл бұрын

I hope McDonalds opens again soon

@paarthwardhan1263 4 жыл бұрын

Hello I'm first

@bbcideas 4 жыл бұрын

Well done! 😍

@Dustfellsans135 3 жыл бұрын

@loveaintfree1409 Жыл бұрын

Hambruger sounds like German.

@kobe3955 Жыл бұрын

It is German not American they stole it

@ZalamaTheDragonGod Жыл бұрын

@@kobe3955 stole the meat, not the sandwich. Otherwise someone better start gatekeeping bread🥨🥐

@kobe3955 Жыл бұрын

@@ZalamaTheDragonGod ?

@kobe3955 Жыл бұрын

@@ZalamaTheDragonGod the Hamburger is German with the bread

@phnx_tom5400 Жыл бұрын

Yes because its from the City Hamburg in the North of Germany

@mydailycrazylife6124 Жыл бұрын

North Korea invented burgers 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@mydailycrazylife6124 Жыл бұрын

@@kobe3955 bro that was sarcasm

@martinzuniga6605 23 күн бұрын

Its American

@Dustfellsans135 3 жыл бұрын

@kobe3955 Жыл бұрын

Hamburger is German

@youzzeeramiir8926 7 ай бұрын

Lier is German invention 😂😂

@ahmedshahab4105 2 жыл бұрын

You trying to tell me we got kebabs from West is heresy, blasphemy and colonialist imperialism.

@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts 2 жыл бұрын

No, they said the opposite: The Europeans went to the East and discovered kebabs there, and then brought the recipes back.

@rng8119 Жыл бұрын

@@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts kebabs were a greek recipe, there are murals and paintings from ancient Greece depicting kebabs, but the Hamburg steak is not based in kebab but in the minced meat mongolians did, brought into Germany by the tartars

@ZalamaTheDragonGod Жыл бұрын

Language barrier moment.

@illslaptfouttaya Жыл бұрын

Long live the BURGER 🍔

@BababoBirn-eg1lu Жыл бұрын

Well, Hamburg's was out of a real time story- used in Army for eating. Was for them good eating hamburger's in history time.. before 18 century. Most of Army where was a war saw some real time and try on to do the same with a men's and women's who worked for Army and take care about them.. I have to say that without them would be a not existing hamburger's because this real time have to be a destroyed.