The Anglo-Saxon Legacy

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2 жыл бұрын

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@davidstarkeytalks
@davidstarkeytalks 2 жыл бұрын
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@JeanPaulMueller
@JeanPaulMueller 2 жыл бұрын
How would history be different had William become king without the conquest. In other words, had Harald recognized him as the legitimate king?
@RussiaIsARiddle778
@RussiaIsARiddle778 2 жыл бұрын
You must be a member of Dr. Starkey’s $14.50 a month club in order to ask a question. Forgive me if I am telling you something you already know.
@beesoon956
@beesoon956 2 жыл бұрын
I will, once I cancel other subscriptions. I think you are an amazing source of our Historical basis! God Bless you! ❤
@curlew-3592
@curlew-3592 2 жыл бұрын
People think the English have never had any problems only caused them. The truth is that we don’t whinge on about them for centuries looking for pity and people to blame for our inadequacies. 🇬🇧
@vatsmith8759
@vatsmith8759 2 жыл бұрын
How so? We blame the French for everything bad and have done for the last thousand years.
@garylancaster8612
@garylancaster8612 2 жыл бұрын
Should have added a St George's Cross flag not the UJ.
@DB-su5qp
@DB-su5qp 2 жыл бұрын
@@vatsmith8759 Er not English then? Never heard or seen this attitude. French is object of ridicule (inverted snobbery sometimes, sometimes their insufferable arrogance) maybe but among the ruling class everything French is admired you have to speak it.
@neo1559
@neo1559 2 жыл бұрын
More content on Anglo-Saxons please; this was excellent.
@JJToddy
@JJToddy 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info
@Vesnicie
@Vesnicie 2 жыл бұрын
The Michael Wood documentaries on the subject of the Anglo-Saxon kings are mostly available on KZfaq and very worth the watch.
@raypurchase801
@raypurchase801 2 жыл бұрын
Damned right about that!
@elss8717
@elss8717 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching Michael Wood. He is most fascinating and knowledgeable.
@raypurchase801
@raypurchase801 2 жыл бұрын
@@elss8717 I recall his TV documentaries from 40 years ago. The BBC might not offer him a contract these days. He's too white and perhaps he won't depict Anglo Saxons as west African.
@elss8717
@elss8717 2 жыл бұрын
@@raypurchase801 I watch the BBC a lot.
@yankilla2707
@yankilla2707 2 жыл бұрын
Hell hath no fury like an aethling scorned
@martyn8116
@martyn8116 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I never knew about the Norman's wiping out the ruling class, clergy, intelligentsia and, as a consequence, Anglo-Saxon written language and books.
@raypurchase801
@raypurchase801 2 жыл бұрын
The Normans regarded the native English in the same way as the SS regarded the locals during Barbarossa.
@davidtownsend6092
@davidtownsend6092 2 жыл бұрын
Yea dude like how did u not learn that lol. There was 1 English Earl left and 1 or 2 bishops that's itlol
@derekparsons4
@derekparsons4 2 жыл бұрын
I've just reread Judith Green's biography of Henry I, which I can recommend.
@martyn8116
@martyn8116 2 жыл бұрын
@@derekparsons4 Thanks, Derek. Appreciated. I see Judith has just released a new book as well: The Normans: Power, Conquest and Culture in 11th century Europe 2022
@derekparsons4
@derekparsons4 2 жыл бұрын
@@martyn8116 Thank you. Sounds interesting.
@freedomwatch3991
@freedomwatch3991 2 жыл бұрын
Old English should be taught in English schools as well. It's a good language.
@johnmichael7570
@johnmichael7570 2 жыл бұрын
Really well thought out look at the far-reaching ramifications of the Norman invasion but delivered in a nice concise presentation. Thank you as always, Dr Starkey.
@Wrz2e
@Wrz2e 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how Monsieur Macron would react if we asked him for an apology and reparations!
@gbentley8176
@gbentley8176 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure his France has anything to do with Normandy. Even today?
@turmuthoer
@turmuthoer 2 жыл бұрын
@@gbentley8176 Exactly. It's poking fun at the idiots who want Britain and other former colonial powers to pay reparations to their former territories.
@charlenelundquist3512
@charlenelundquist3512 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like more Anglo Saxon history. My ancestors are from the Midlands and Scotland and, since I'm from California, learned next to nothing about our history.
@geeboom
@geeboom 2 жыл бұрын
Lundquist sounds so scandinavian. But then who would have thought Warren was a typical Cherokee surname.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 жыл бұрын
Anglo-Saxon history is so VERY dry you can use it to dry your clothes if you get wet :)
@Horizon344
@Horizon344 2 жыл бұрын
Harold II was titled the King of the English, William I was King of England - subtle but all important difference. I think Starkers goes a little too far in presenting 1066 as a year Zero in England governmentally, as the Normans left the majority of English laws & governmental administration intact, merely adapting it to their purposes, but it certainly was a Year Zero for the governing order, & one was annihilated by the other, and by an "other" which was a brutal & violent warrior caste with little in common with the population they found themselves ruling, they were even becoming pretty governmentally brutal & violent with their own people back in Normandy by this time. All this came about because of Harold rushing to Hastings, & not rest & refitting in London before he did so after the lightning march up North to strike down the Norwegians at York. One of the key questions in English history is whether there was a secret alliance between the Norwegians & Normans to attack England simultaneously to break its defences, or whether their simultaneous assaults was happenstance?
@chrisgregory3805
@chrisgregory3805 2 жыл бұрын
I am quite a fan of David despite his reactionary politics! He is a riveting speaker which I greatly admire. But David you use the word 'extraordinary' far too much!
@willelm88
@willelm88 2 жыл бұрын
Actually William the Conqueror also called himself "King of the English". The first ruler to call himself "King of England" was John.
@westleymanc
@westleymanc 2 жыл бұрын
My answer is yes. The City of London paid for the whole enterprise
@Horizon344
@Horizon344 2 жыл бұрын
@@willelm88 Not sure that's right, I thought it was William 1?
@ThyCorylus
@ThyCorylus 2 жыл бұрын
A fundamental legal change was male primogeniture as opposed to gavelkind. I'm not too familiar with the extent of Norman dismantling of the Saxon legal framework this aside.
@simplelifelost
@simplelifelost 2 жыл бұрын
I like the written question at the beginning. It lets Dr Starkey spend his time answering.
@usualsuspect7484
@usualsuspect7484 2 жыл бұрын
Not wishing to undermine Starkey - but Robert Tombs is excellent on this topic in his book: "The English & their History" - tldr: the conquering Normans were gradually sucked in to maintaining + then embracing Anglo-Saxon traditions + culture - despite their initial "decapitation" of the ruling elites
@Happyheretic2308
@Happyheretic2308 2 жыл бұрын
Tombs’ work is fantastic, and extremely readable.
@Happyheretic2308
@Happyheretic2308 2 жыл бұрын
@PrestonSartorius I read Medieval History at University (back in the days when one received education rather than indoctrination), thanks, so I'm happy with my sources. The Bartlett is useful, but Dr Starkey's views are always interesting. One can have an appreciation of more than one historical period.
@FieldMarshalNoPartial
@FieldMarshalNoPartial 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there’s a thumbs up before it’s even started.
@RevRMBWest
@RevRMBWest 2 жыл бұрын
There was already a strong change in English before the Norman conquest, in the kind of English spoken in the Danelaw due to the impact of Old Norse: that kind of English - simplified in its grammar and invaded by some Norse words - was to be taken up by the Normans and further influenced by French borrowings; and is the immediate forebear of the English that we now speak. However, at the street level the kind of Modern English that we now speak is still 70% Germanic (56% Old English and 14% Old Norse) with 30%, admittedly quite a lot, coming from French, Latin, Greek and so forth. The music or rhythm of Modern English, however, is still close to Dutch, and Frisian/Plattdeutsch. Trying listening to these tongues: they sound English, although you somehow cannot understand them - that is due to the grammar more than to anything else.
@j.burgess4459
@j.burgess4459 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm not sure whether or to what extent the grammatical simplification of Anglo-Saxon was due to the Normans? This kind of thing wasn't unique to England. In the territories that are today Denmark, Norway, and Sweden the Old Norse language of the Vikings likewise underwent pretty radical simplification and developed into the modern languages Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish - which are different but still mutually intelligible. Fascinatingly, though, in Iceland the language has to this very day remained close to Old Norse in all of its intricate complexity. So language simplification isn't by any means an inevitability - not even over a very long period of time. David also mentioned South Africa; what happened to the Dutch language there (i.e. the way that Afrikaans emerged as a radically simplified form of Dutch) equally shows us that language change can happen pretty fast under the right set of circumstances - pretty much within just three or four generations.
@RevRMBWest
@RevRMBWest 2 жыл бұрын
@@j.burgess4459 The grammatical simplification was more due to the impact of Old Norse on the way English was spoken in the East Midlands between 900 and 1100 AD. This new way of speaking English then spread to the rest of the country and existed alongside the old way of speaking. In many areas Old English and Early Middle English would have been spoken together, along with some Old Norse and the new Norman French too. But in a few generations, as you have said, the old way of doing things became forgot and at that point - sometime in the 13th century - Old English became extinct.
@willelm88
@willelm88 2 жыл бұрын
@@RevRMBWest The West Saxon version of the Gospels was copied out in a new manuscript at Canterbury about 1200. Nobody wuld have bothered to do that if tne book wasn't still being used in the church services.
@kelvinkersey5058
@kelvinkersey5058 2 жыл бұрын
I've never been able to understand how a language loses its inflections (case endings) and becomes syntactic (word order), Old English to modern, or Latin into Italian for example. Is there a period when both are in use or does everyone agree on a switchover day :-) I wish the Russians and Germans would hurry along and catch up so we could ditch all those tables mensa mensa mensam....
@RevRMBWest
@RevRMBWest 2 жыл бұрын
@@willelm88 As I have said, there is evidence to suggest that Old English was still being spoken, read, and written as a vernacular into the 13th century, at least by some - that would be from1200-1300.
@jennyhunter9346
@jennyhunter9346 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking on this subject. More of similar topics please. 🙂
@craxd1
@craxd1 2 жыл бұрын
I always found the story of William Peverel interesting, as little is known about his origins, only that he was a Norman knight. I believe that this was where Rowling obtained her idea for her books.
@wongfeihung6285
@wongfeihung6285 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent...... as usual.
@victorydaydeepstate
@victorydaydeepstate 2 жыл бұрын
David, thank you for uploading these videos. You are a remarkable man, especially in the era of grifters
@derekmills1080
@derekmills1080 2 жыл бұрын
As always, fascinating. Thank you, David.
@derekmills1080
@derekmills1080 2 жыл бұрын
Apart from the construction of castles and keeps to dominate the country, the establishment of the Norman style and form of worship extended into the 12th century; the cathedrals and smaller churches being a symbol of that form of worship truly filling the citizen with awe. Apart from the magnificent Norman features of Durham cathedral, for example, perhaps lesser known, but well worth a visit are the remaining 12th century Norman incised columns of St. Mary's Church, Kirkby Lonsdale. I've often wondered why such a remote site, in the 12th century, would warrant such impressive features in a relatively small church.
@bobby_bretwalda
@bobby_bretwalda 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone who enjoys history and music, I would recommend listening to Show of Hands' song Breme Fell At Hastings. A wonderful exploration of the Norman Conquest from the perspective of a crestfallen Englishman. Or Frank Turner's English Curse - a fun acapella ballad telling the story of the death of William's son Rufus.
@larisakirichenko8723
@larisakirichenko8723 2 жыл бұрын
Harold's daughter Gytha married a Prince of Kievan Rus Vladimir Monomach.
@filippoguidi9544
@filippoguidi9544 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Professor!
@dianacooper-havlik4115
@dianacooper-havlik4115 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!🌟
@themackeler5011
@themackeler5011 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and well presented what brilliant memory .
@mikereger1186
@mikereger1186 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking about the Norman Conquest always makes me frown, it was probably the single biggest disaster ever to happen to this country. William the Bastard (as he was known before he conquered anything) was relying on a mercenary army and was financed by the Pope in Rome (another reason to dislike that office). Being illegitimate of birth, it’s hard to see how any claim of legitimacy stands at all in those times. Had King Harold’s brother Tostig not been conniving with Harald Hardrada of Norway, and had the Pope not interfered, there would have been no conquest, and there would have been considerably more freedom for the common Englishman. Would the feudal system have been so fully implemented if the Witan had continued?
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 жыл бұрын
"biggest disaster"? Only if you were upper class or a clergyman. You think the peasants cared about the ethnicity or culture of the lords who ruled them?
@garylancaster8612
@garylancaster8612 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, it still annoys me 1000 years later. Bloody Normans! I blame Harold for rushing to Sussex when he could have waited for more men to join him in London.
@mikereger1186
@mikereger1186 2 жыл бұрын
@@DieFlabbergast yes. They were part of the Fyrrd (militia), it was their land, their lords, their clergy, their culture. They had rights, laws and protections. The Norman Conquest upset all of that overnight with a brutal, despotic regime.
@thomasdavid7364
@thomasdavid7364 2 жыл бұрын
@@DieFlabbergast Of course they did, what utter nonsense
@wendywolfman
@wendywolfman 2 жыл бұрын
The most Chad gay guy I’ve ever seen. What a legend.
@allanjgray1
@allanjgray1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@therainbowgulag.
@therainbowgulag. 2 жыл бұрын
Can William the Conqueror return and erradicate the woke itelligencia please?
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 жыл бұрын
He's busy: try Attila the Hun's number.
@Songy
@Songy 2 жыл бұрын
There's something I find fascinating about the early Norman period and the Matilda-Stephen-Anarchy period as well. I hope we get to hear more.
@bobby_bretwalda
@bobby_bretwalda 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried Ken Follett's Pillars of the Earth? That's a cool franchise set in that period.
@Happyheretic2308
@Happyheretic2308 2 жыл бұрын
Read Robert Tombs’ wonderful “The English and Their History”
@garylancaster8612
@garylancaster8612 2 жыл бұрын
Read The White Ship by Charles Spencer
@hedgefundshyster..3241
@hedgefundshyster..3241 2 жыл бұрын
Happening to the UK ..right now ..being conquered by stealth..
@neilwilliams2409
@neilwilliams2409 2 жыл бұрын
Legend 👍
@dnstone1127
@dnstone1127 2 жыл бұрын
There is a modern English called ''Anglish'', with all the post Norman words taken out, it's a lot more earthy and less upper class sounding.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 жыл бұрын
You have to be a registered nerd to learn something like that, similarly with Esperanto.
@dnstone1127
@dnstone1127 2 жыл бұрын
@@DieFlabbergast They said the same disparaging thing about the revival of Irish Gaelic, there's nothing nerdy about language and poetry.
@thecommonword6996
@thecommonword6996 Жыл бұрын
Relation to Stasavage's view articulated in The Decline and Rise of Democracy: A Global History from Antiquity to Today about relative importance of Anglo-saxon and Norman contributions to English freedom?
@Englishman-_-Mongolia2022
@Englishman-_-Mongolia2022 2 жыл бұрын
Love my Anglo-Saxon ancestors
@katherinecollins4685
@katherinecollins4685 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting
@FiFi-wt9zj
@FiFi-wt9zj 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always
@janesda
@janesda 2 жыл бұрын
Is 1066 a roadmap for overcoming the current stagnation and lack of leadership in Great Britain? Completely wipe out the ruling class, the religous authorities and intelligentsia and allow a new growth of ideas, language and other proceses to develop so the country may eventually flourish again.
@themsmloveswar3985
@themsmloveswar3985 2 жыл бұрын
The Norman aristocracy wasted much of the 400 years after the Battle of Hastings, invading France, Ireland and Scotland. The most expensive part being endless invasions in France. They wasted vast amounts of resources of the conquered English people on their obsession with conquest. They also destroyed the name of England in those countries. The pursuit of conquest gave the Norman aristocracy of England purpose, and it seemed they found none other on anywhere near the same scale. Even their side branches in Wales and Ireland never seemed as obsessed with conquest, and developed more interest in religion and music. The end result of this "conquest as purpose" obsession, was that the Military class finally wiped most of themselves out in the War of the Roses. ..... Those that rise by the sword, fall by the sword..... The Anglo Saxon kingdoms did not Invade their neighbours on anything remotely of the same scale. Perhaps Prof Starkey may wish to comment on this.
@davepangolin4996
@davepangolin4996 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent although this needs to be broken down into about 10 90 minute episodes for my bedtime listening
@TheLannylulu
@TheLannylulu 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Starkey must be psychic. Was thinking last week what his thoughts might be regarding the Anglo Saxon kings?
@donaldcatton4028
@donaldcatton4028 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous...
@angusmcangus7914
@angusmcangus7914 2 жыл бұрын
Just as Davos man wishes to do us all now.
@theknowledge.6869
@theknowledge.6869 2 жыл бұрын
WEF-ers.
@davie6093
@davie6093 2 жыл бұрын
Genious of a Man
@lulabellegnostic8402
@lulabellegnostic8402 2 жыл бұрын
And still today we have the remnants of two languages, where two words of similar meaning have either AS or Norman origin. eg lamb (AS) mutton (mouton- norman) love (AS) amourous (amour, norman).
@declup
@declup 2 жыл бұрын
Does a synthetic language like Old English require a custodial class of speakers to prevent its disintegration? Or, to pose the question less provocatively, to stall an otherwise hastened rate of natural lingustic processes of change? I understand the history of the English language supports this supposition, but, myself, I have my doubts.
@AngloSaxon1
@AngloSaxon1 Жыл бұрын
Hello, am I right in thinking that when the Normans came to England, and defeated Alfred, they began to take over all the places of power and indstalled themselves as the rulers of England? Is it true that the Normans replaced all the nobility of the Anglo Saxons, and replaced them with their own? so when the Normans ruled it was only in the high places of Power? but had little to do with the common man, who was not replaced by Normans and stayed as they were, Anglo Saxons?
@earthstick
@earthstick 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps David could cover the origins of the Anglo-Saxons in Britain and separate history from legend. There is a tale that Hengist and Horsa were employed as mercenaries by Vortigern, they rebelled against their employer and began taking the country. It even has its own decapitation event in 'the night of the long knives', where Nennius and Geoffrey of Monmouth claim the celts and Saxons were discussing terms of a truce when the Saxons pulled knives from their boots and killed the Celtic leaders.
@earthstick
@earthstick 2 жыл бұрын
@PrestonSartorius Well yes, it's tales and myths. Is it simply that records were not kept or lost, or is it by design that the victors wanted to erase the previous peoples history? Hengist, Horsa and Vortigern are mentioned in the Anglo-Saxon Chronical (I just read the passage A.D. 449). But Nennius and Geoffrey of Monmouth are said to be less reliable.
@earthstick
@earthstick 2 жыл бұрын
@PrestonSartorius So what of the claim made in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle? It is the story according to one of their own. That does not mean it is true, but it is the explanation that they themselves put forward.
@earthstick
@earthstick 2 жыл бұрын
@PrestonSartorius And Bede spent his entire life in a monastery. His knowledge must have been somewhat distant. But regarding the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, what I am getting at is that is _their_ statement. If not what actually happened, it is what they stand by. I think that says something in itself, because the account they wrote is what they knew they would be judged by, and they were happy to be so.
@neilog747
@neilog747 2 жыл бұрын
Peasant Grunts! Ha! Ha! You've been to Stockport then!
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 жыл бұрын
Can be heard on British television every day.
@angusmcangus7914
@angusmcangus7914 2 жыл бұрын
Some parallels for today, no?
@hughtube86
@hughtube86 2 жыл бұрын
Who here has watched the Last Kingdom? Is Uthred of Bebbenburgh a real person David?
@garylancaster8612
@garylancaster8612 2 жыл бұрын
No he's a fictional character in the Saxon series of books by Bernard Cornwell. Bebbenburgh is real though.
@ChimpRiot
@ChimpRiot 2 жыл бұрын
I proudly consider myself Anglo-Saxon, and England is mine!
@ryan7864
@ryan7864 Жыл бұрын
England belonged to the Celtic Britons long before the Angles and Saxons arrived.
@mr.jaggers7896
@mr.jaggers7896 Жыл бұрын
There was no England before the Angles and Saxons arrived.
@jameswalker5796
@jameswalker5796 2 жыл бұрын
Anglo-Saxon didn't lose its grammar, its grammar evolved :) Although it's been argued that the process began before the Norman Conquest, through contact with Scandinavian (the Danelaw). It's just that there was little record of the transition period between the 11th and 14th centuries, so it looks more abrupt than it probably was.
@davidpamely217
@davidpamely217 2 жыл бұрын
A most welcome talk on the Anglo Saxons and the development/evolution of a national language. There is little doubt that the Normans practiced genocide but the idea of destroying the ethnicity and culture of Anglo Saxon England is confounded by the way the language absorbed and survived the Normans. When the Normans arrived in France their own language did not survive and they spoke, as I understand it, 'low' French. In England this did not happen. For example, the Vikings invaded England and appear to have dominated, lived with and traded with the Saxons. They brought to English the ending 'en' so we have in English the words 'oxen' and 'children' both derived from Viking grammar. Therefore, if these survived along with many shared words the Saxons and Vikings enjoyed, the genocide was not fully completed. I have to question the voracity of your idea of subjugation and I would point out that with the three languages of State, Church and People the only one that was understood by everyone (in the passing of the years) was the german based Early English. In the end it suited Henry (the second?) to demote French in state affairs and we saw the steady emergence of English in the following years, seeing, e.g., Tyndale and the St. James Bible make their mark. I visited the Ashmolean Museum yesterday to see the Anglo Saxon artefacts and the practical skills and the administration of the Anglo Saxons, as well as the strength of their economy suggests some depth to the culture, probably supported by many of the clergy. My argument is that something survived the Normans and what brought that about should not be mis-stated. I look forward to more of your talks on the Anglo Saxons and the Normans.
@cynric5437
@cynric5437 2 жыл бұрын
Cor! Just over 1 minute in and already I disagree with you. William could have a legitimate reason to assume that the Crown of England would come to him. In 1025, William’s uncle, William, dies aged 18. also at Fecamp Abbey was Edward Atheling. Now, in 1035, Robert, William the bastard’s dad, spends time and effort to get Edward the English throne ( he was unsuccesful). In 1041, «Edward» becomes co-regent and Harthacnut dies in mysterious circumstances (as did Harold I 4 years before). 1051 and William visits Edward and goes home happy according to William of Jumeiges. Now, could it be that Will the Con found out that Ed the Con was in fact Will the monk? Easy to check as body of «Will the monk» Lies in Fecamp Abbey and has a good provenance. Just check the DNA and compare with Emma in Winchester. If Will, the relationship Will be Aunt/nephew. If Edward, the relationship will be mother/son.
@jameslynch7826
@jameslynch7826 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if England could ever throw out the current lot and attempt to recreate a Saxon type Witan and reverse the land grabs and boot out those Norman sounding aristos in the Lords and also the church?
@sh-hg4eg
@sh-hg4eg 2 жыл бұрын
Hang on, this isn't the same as South Africa. It's worth remembering that the majority of the black population in South Africa are Bantu and mostly came after Europeans settled and bought land from the indigenous Khoisaan. Apartheid was largely the Europeans trying to seperate the massive immigrant population of Bantu from the settler one, as the Bantu had arrived in such large numbers that they eventually became 10-1 and would of dominated a democracy. Wether you agree with the morality of not allowing foreigners to out vote you in your democracy is subjective but that's what it was.
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely video. Could have done without the Ukraine rhubarb at the start.
@masterofnone8400
@masterofnone8400 2 жыл бұрын
I feel ppl of the British Isles are their own race, with some celt, viking and the native peoples all mixed up.
@harmlessdrudge
@harmlessdrudge 2 жыл бұрын
@PrestonSartorius If that is the case, then why do South Asians tend to reject organs donated to them by other 'races'? Why do people of West African descent win the 100 metre sprint? Why do people from East Africa tend to be the best at marathons?
@masterofnone8400
@masterofnone8400 2 жыл бұрын
@PrestonSartorius not true my friend
@thomasdavid7364
@thomasdavid7364 2 жыл бұрын
@PrestonSartorius Not true, and there's been little migration in history outside of neighbouring tribes
@thomasdavid7364
@thomasdavid7364 2 жыл бұрын
@PrestonSartorius I'm sorry that you live in denial of reality - sad
@thomasdavid7364
@thomasdavid7364 2 жыл бұрын
@PrestonSartorius Thank you for proving me right
@harryknapp6418
@harryknapp6418 2 жыл бұрын
On the modern basis the people who can trace their ancestry to the Anglo Saxons can demand reparations ?
@wendywolfman
@wendywolfman 2 жыл бұрын
This country is done btw. Gg no re.
@Valencetheshireman927
@Valencetheshireman927 2 жыл бұрын
Not yet it’s not! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@westleymanc
@westleymanc 2 жыл бұрын
They'll always be an England
@ravenhill_firelord_1968
@ravenhill_firelord_1968 2 жыл бұрын
i don't believe i have any Anglo saxon heritage at all, as i'm italian origin on my fathers side and german origin on my mother side, although born in the uk.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 жыл бұрын
Well, if you have German blood there's probably some Saxon in it. The Saxons didn't migrate to the British Isles en masse, you know. Most of them stayed at home in northwestern Germania.
@ryan7864
@ryan7864 Жыл бұрын
@@DieFlabbergast German is a very broad term. Austrians are German for example. Saxon was one of many Germanic tribes.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 жыл бұрын
There is no such language as "Anglo-Saxon," Mr. Starkey, as you should know very well. The language is referred to as Old English.
@garylancaster8612
@garylancaster8612 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I also don't like it when the army at Hastings is called Anglo Saxon. They were Englishmen.
@ryan7864
@ryan7864 Жыл бұрын
@@garylancaster8612 Your statement is rather confounding. My understanding is what made the English is the combination of the Angle and Saxon tribes, no?
@garylancaster8612
@garylancaster8612 Жыл бұрын
@@ryan7864 Ryan, a combination of the Angles, Saxons and Jutes who intermingled with the native British population along with Danish/Norwegian invaders from the 9th century. England was a unified nation though (no more Wessex, Mercia, Northumberland etc) by the late 10th century. My point therefore is that by 1066 the army that fought William of Normandy at Hastings were no longer "Anglo Saxons", they were English.
@kelvinkersey5058
@kelvinkersey5058 2 жыл бұрын
Don't I recall reading that the Norman invasion was never more than 5% of the population? (far less than the current immigration!) Why didn't the lower orders come here too, or was everyone feudally tied to the land? As to language, wasn't there a QI question which said that in Rome itself Latin was a minority language for the patricians and the bulk of Romans were very 'diverse' and speaking a multitude of languages
@wolfiestreet6899
@wolfiestreet6899 2 жыл бұрын
It seems it was more about a change of administration and absorbing England into the Norman empire (not that there was much of one). I believe England became the immediate centre rather than Normandy itself which may contribute to the eventual subsuming of the Normans.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 жыл бұрын
As to Rome under the Empire, like all capital cities of large countries, and especially empires, it was of course very "diverse." But Rome was just a city. The people of Latium as a whole, and to a lesser extent the rest of the Italian peninsula, spoke what is known as Vulgar Latin, which developed into Italian. The peoples of the countries now known as Spain, France, and Romania also spoke slightly varying forms of Vulgar Latin, which developed into their modern Romance languages.
@wolfiestreet6899
@wolfiestreet6899 2 жыл бұрын
@PrestonSartorius This guys thinks he knows stuff. If only you knew you're merely a repeater.
@wolfiestreet6899
@wolfiestreet6899 2 жыл бұрын
@PrestonSartorius Oh but I am. You say studied, I say indoctrinated. You speak on ancient matters with such certainty of which you cannot support. Repeater. And now an arrogant one at that.
@wolfiestreet6899
@wolfiestreet6899 2 жыл бұрын
@PrestonSartorius Ahhhhh, you've resorted to the 'consensus' argument. Yes, you're making your way through the plsybook in order I see. As predicted.
@thomasboyd4745
@thomasboyd4745 2 жыл бұрын
Do think Tony Blair would changed UK general election voting system for UK general election politically no Thomas. He not interested in it Politically he interested in power politically as British government Prime Minister. You get it with the Liberal Democrats politically Thomas. STV voting system for UK general election politically Ireland politically has for it Irish general election politically Thomas. Awesome. Excellent channel.
@paulandsueroberts4121
@paulandsueroberts4121 2 жыл бұрын
A sad day indeed when Harold was defeated.The Normans ruined our culture our country really.
@ryan7864
@ryan7864 Жыл бұрын
How did they ruin it? Britain would eventually emerge a world power after them.
@ronwilson9815
@ronwilson9815 2 жыл бұрын
So the Normans did to the Anglo-Saxons what they had done to the Romano-British, what goes around comes around I guess.
@ryan7864
@ryan7864 Жыл бұрын
Excellent point. The only people indigenous to the British Isles are the Celts.
@ronwilson9815
@ronwilson9815 Жыл бұрын
@@ryan7864 What, the Beaker People don't count? :D
@thomasboyd4745
@thomasboyd4745 2 жыл бұрын
Norman's are French yes. William want to be King of England London politically he wanted it Thomas. Scotland politically never understood that but you did Thomas yes politically. Awesome. Excellent. My father English German born 1930.
@kelvinkersey5058
@kelvinkersey5058 2 жыл бұрын
the Normans were Vikings really
@thomasboyd4745
@thomasboyd4745 2 жыл бұрын
@@kelvinkersey5058 Yes But the English are Anglo Saxon England it population 2 million in 1065 England. The English Anglo Saxon called called French King England Normandy William the bastard. Duke Normandy a bastard. 300 Hundred years French Norman English Kings on the Throne being Kings of England ruling over the majority 2 million English Anglo Saxon England.
@wolfiestreet6899
@wolfiestreet6899 2 жыл бұрын
@@kelvinkersey5058 Indeed, 'Norseman'. Normandy was an autonomous region set up by invading norseman.
@davidpryle3935
@davidpryle3935 2 жыл бұрын
The French like all nations are made up of various strands. The Normans were one of those strands.
@wolfiestreet6899
@wolfiestreet6899 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidpryle3935 Well, no. The Norman's were Norseman. They left Scandinavian territories to seek more land and resources. They operated under an autonomous state by an agreement with the French king to offer forces when required. I don't believe they ever considered themselves, or were ever considered, French in any way.
@olivier8264
@olivier8264 2 жыл бұрын
a point to note that apartheid was not one sided, it was enforced both ways.
@SouthSaxon1
@SouthSaxon1 7 ай бұрын
drop the putin references and this might be ok
@si4632
@si4632 2 жыл бұрын
what people forget is all the Anglo Saxon leaders were Catholic
@ryan7864
@ryan7864 Жыл бұрын
Everyone was in Western Europe at that time.
@si4632
@si4632 Жыл бұрын
@@ryan7864 no they were fighting pagan vikings
@ryan7864
@ryan7864 Жыл бұрын
@@si4632 True. I was talking in terms of Christianity. I mis-understood what you were getting at by saying "Catholic" as if there was an alternative in Christianity at the time.
@si4632
@si4632 Жыл бұрын
@@ryan7864 i was just pointing out the founders of the country were catholic did it trigger you
@thomasboyd4745
@thomasboyd4745 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas you win Austria Vienna politically for FPO get 51 seats David Starkey get FPO votes in England I got Austrians friends who vote FPO they cried Thomas FPO they got something politically to vote for Austria Vienna. That something SNP run Scotland never have politically Thomas. British government get Scottish independence referendum but you vote no Thomas because Art know it nuts.Italy win that politically. England London politically Thomas that tight.
@superted6960
@superted6960 2 жыл бұрын
The early references to Putin not helpful. Ukraine 2022 doesn't look like it's going to roll over in quite the same way as England 1066.
@adamgreen8590
@adamgreen8590 2 жыл бұрын
England didnt just roll over, hence the harrowing of the north
@westleymanc
@westleymanc 2 жыл бұрын
Re Hastings, I wouldn't call it a roll over. And regards Ukraine, its bro on bro, fuelled by USA Imperialist ( with UK thrown in for good luck)
@superted6960
@superted6960 2 жыл бұрын
Point taken
@wolfiestreet6899
@wolfiestreet6899 2 жыл бұрын
Oh it will.
@MudHawg339
@MudHawg339 3 ай бұрын
The comparison to the events in Ukraine is so sad, pointless, subjective opinion, and wholly incorrect. Otherwise, interesting talk.
@mackenshaw8169
@mackenshaw8169 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with Prof Starkey's opening statement. Putin's war aims are limited and he clearly does not seek regime change.
@wolfiestreet6899
@wolfiestreet6899 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I think he does.