The Arcanist Class: A Critical Review

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Here's a critical opinion on the Arcanist as it stands. Keep in mind this class isn't finalized and will change over the course of the PTS cycle. However, I wanted to share the issues in a lackluster class with you and the developers. Please like, subscribe, and comment as it helps my channel grow!
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@Deltiasgaming Жыл бұрын

After playing the Arcanist some more, it needs some work. Keep in mind this is all a work in progress and here's my feedback to developers. Below are important links: ESO Arcanist Class Guide and Best Builds - deltiasgaming.com/the-elder-scrolls-online-arcanist-class-guide/ Best ESO Builds: Update 38 Necrom Chapter - deltiasgaming.com/best-eso-builds-update-38-necrom-chapter/ Arcanist Hands-On Impressions ESO New Class Necrom Chapter - deltiasgaming.com/arcanist-hands-on-impressions-eso-new-class-necrom-chapter/

@i_nosc0pedjfk.227 Жыл бұрын

ZO$ paid to fly him out he can't be critical

@R_o_o_k_i_n_g_t_o_n Жыл бұрын

if you ask me, they didnt seem to have a clear enough theme throughout the creation of the arcanist and kinda only made one skill line but than made 3 role versions of it with one being dps for the stats and shit, one being for healing stats and shit, and tha last being for tank stats and shit. like it all looks awesome and badass but the issue really is that they didnt do what they did with say for example, the dragon knight or the sorccerer where the dk is geared towards poison and flame dots with its passives being focused on general sustain in all regards with utility abilites thrown in here and there to give some good group utility and fill out the list of necessary buffs and sorc was geared toward aoe ground dots as well as high crit chance and dmg focus on those dots as well as again, its own uniuqe utilites thrown in with another roster of major and minor buffs and debuffs the class can apply to enemies and allies.

@R_o_o_k_i_n_g_t_o_n Жыл бұрын

like my mind is that they should rework the dmg line to focus on poison since literally there is that passive that boosts the dmg of specifically status effects and the poison should be lore wise, they inky waters of apocrypha that we know is lethal to mortals with than the tank line like you said needs just some bigger dmg shields since that way they can also keep a focus on 'rune shields' and shit with also a magic pull that can morph to stam or mag and yea the healing line needs just flat out to be buffed in what its capable of because as it stands its just weak as utter shit...

@IniquitousZ Жыл бұрын

I would personally rather see them boost the direct damage rather than give them a DOT focus like every other class. I like the identity this class has, being focused on a unique mechanic and play style rather than just DOT spam v7.0.

@DrunkenRhinoceros Жыл бұрын

We the ESO players, appreciate the critical valuation of tools for the Arcanist. It's important for the Devs to see videos like this, as they need to get this dialed in before June's release. As a test server offering, this is exactly the reason to be bruttaly honest with this classes scaling to other class strengths and weaknesses. The Arcanist doesnt need to mirror other abilities, but it does need to compete, lest it fall to the wayside.

@rofo2107 Жыл бұрын

Devs... are not taking any decisions, managers do. And nor devs, nor managers understand the game at all, but they understand selling numbers in Crownstore. So it is quite opposite. Your feedback has zero value for devs but it could have some small influence on the community to buy or not to buy chapters which is a signal for managers that Arcanist is good enough or not good enough to meet their targets. But don't fool yourself. Half of the players would buy Necrom anyway, regardless your feedback and second half is amazed with visual effects of Arcanist and DPS numbers on training dummy are not important for them. Nobody cares about some burst attack and DOT weakness because it is flashing and green and has TENTACLES.

@DrunkenRhinoceros Жыл бұрын

@@rofo2107 Yes, they want the Arcanist to be compelling because they chase dollars, but they know a poorly received product can spell financial disaster. Look at Bud Light for Example. One calculated misstep can turn an entire community and walk away. ZOS and Microsoft depend on the Online Store to generate continues revenue streams. No eyes on the game, means no dollars coming in. So yes, they need to make the Necrom Chapter meet players expectations, especially after the recent nerfs to light attack weaving and class nerfs. They are not at all disinterested in this expansions success.

@Despond Жыл бұрын

It does compete, you need to watch other sources. Not only does it compete but it does it easier than any other class for PVE and solo play. PVP it can use some tweaking, but that's to be expected since it's been a small testing period for pvp.

@messiah4951 Жыл бұрын

"they need to get this dialed in before June's release.", Lol you should know that it ain't happening.

@sacredpower7530 Жыл бұрын

My fear is that even if they do buff it over the course of the PTS, right up until the release of the chapter. They're just gonna nerf it 3-6 months after Necrom comes out and it will possibly be worse than before they buffed it.

@TitanEidolon Жыл бұрын

They generally want the new class to perform very well. It's part of how they entice people to buy the new expansion

@Vlex2raw Жыл бұрын

Once zenimax has your money they don’t care lol. I’ve learned over 5 k hours that you’re only playing the best for maybe a chapter or an update if it’s too OP. I’m not saying it’s the worst system because eventually some things go back into meta again and can be more enjoyable

@motsy15 Жыл бұрын

That is not a fear, it’s a fact

@videogamer6356 Жыл бұрын

Then get the dlc a year after on sale like most

@gibran6190 Жыл бұрын

That’s the ZOS way

@IcyfireGaming Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the only argument I could make for the burst heal since it is applied in (3) ticks instead of just (1) is that each individual tick can crit. So, in a weird context, if you build for crit chance, you have an opportunity for all (3) ticks to crit which would then "somewhat" compete with all the normal burst heals. Otherwise, it's equivalent to Cauterize's strength of a burst heal and falls short to Polar Winds/Honor the Dead/Healthy Offering/Resistance Flesh/Twilight Matriarch/Obsidian Shard. TL;DR - It's a weaker version of Polar Winds. I'd like for the tooltip to increase to the level of the other class burst heals.

@Kieran.Rob53 Жыл бұрын

Lol what’s an obsidian shard 🥴

@IcyfireGaming Жыл бұрын

@@Kieran.Rob53 yeah I didn’t want to mention that one either but the tooltip doesn’t lie. Lol.

@LotusOfDoom Жыл бұрын

Liked hearing the number crunchy side of things, from my testing I liked the look and feel but I was wondering how it’d stack up for late game stuff. Curious what they’ll adjust over the PTS

@a_green_snake6451 Жыл бұрын

I love how 2 days ago, you posted a video saying the Archanist was a PvE god, and now your saying it's not that good.

@Patton243 Жыл бұрын

Lol well said

@filipecaramelo5443 Жыл бұрын

And I literally saw a guy solo an HM dlc dungeon without even having a health / resource problem hahaha

@urhokeskitalo Жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same 😂😂

@irishsage2459 Жыл бұрын

@@filipecaramelo5443 Yes, but that person was using proc sets and weapon/guild skill lines. Going by just what the class can offer alone, it's not great. About 10k less than what other classes can offer. Except as a healer, the class needs help.

@_Yewrei Жыл бұрын

@@irishsage2459 arguably even as a healer, I'd still take a warden, necro, plar or NB. All 4 classes still provide more than an arcanist imo. Arcanist has some unique ways to provide group buffs but the healing by comparison is worse than all 4 mentioned and leans alot on weapon skill trees. On top of that, warden provides all the same buffs save for minor courage but is made up by minor toughness. Hell even cro provides more strictly because of minor protection, minor vulnerability, healing synergies, cleansing and providing group armor. And NB + Necro have better ultigen in general intrinsically too. Arcanist looks fun but in a very demanding environment I'd say the class needs to be brought up quite a bit if it wants to be on the level of other classes.

@Sniperjones_007 Жыл бұрын

Another great video Deltia! Appreciate the honesty. Hopefully they can make their changes before this goes live in June

@BLUE247365 Жыл бұрын

I plan on playing the class as a vampire dark elf. PVE fun. What goes better with a little night reading than a fine glass of daedra's blood? 📖+😈+🍷=😊

@LimeTimeHD Жыл бұрын

Will be interesting to see this class after launch and its changes from now to then. Still can't bring myself to try on PTS I want to wait for its official release. Great video as always!

@swingkid1771 Жыл бұрын

Nice insights into the pros and cons. Your recs for improvements are on the money.

@JosephNobles Жыл бұрын

What about a dot that ticks higher or renews when you use a Crux attack?

@XxxROBERTxxX Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of when warden class first dropped. Everyone wanted it because it was new but didn't really have much to offer in the beginning. But I can see this being buffed and reworked to be great in the future.

@rofo2107 Жыл бұрын

For money.. in the next chapter.

@Despond Жыл бұрын

@@rofo2107 NO they should do it for free and make no money then cancel the whole game.

@Ulquiorra167 Жыл бұрын

@@Despondyou want to PAY for a class rework and buy it from the crown store? ESO playerbase ks truly retarded

@Goji_Bear Жыл бұрын

Everyone was saying this class was gonna be super broken op and get nerfed to hell yet it's the opposite 😂 Hopefully it will get buffed a bit. I still plan on maining it when it comes out just for the fun playstyle and overall aesthetic

@JoshuaKindle Жыл бұрын

Tentacle needs to hit harder at the very least, even when the execute morph is used it still hits like 4k in pvp. For an execute that is super weak :(

@llawlied6902 Жыл бұрын

So surprise attack does better damage even damn

@JoshuaKindle Жыл бұрын

@@llawlied6902 Yeah, it’s a really cool ability it just doesn’t do any damage. I expected it to be more like a burst dmg ability like blastbones, but when i was using it. The damage was really bad even when i switched morphs. if they don’t want people to spam it, they should just dramatically increase its damage per crux used. When 3 crux’s are used it should do damage similar to blastbones in my opinion. Right now your forced to run a dot build.

@llawlied6902 Жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaKindle and the animation has a delay it's not instant cast for some reason I wonder why they thought we enjoy dot builds, really reminds me of necro that felt like 90% aoe skills made for pve and blastbones that took 4s to hit and was rarely reliable and the forgettable skulls you could throw, man I'm so unsure how arcanist will work in PvP or when you need burst damage when nothing in his class skills seems to offer burst damage, even the last 2 skills in the DPS skill tree are a weapon buff and a rune I don't get why

@Rayz0rs Жыл бұрын

I dont think there are enough dd skills. There’s basically 4 skills because two are spammables (beam and rune) and they dont have a bar buff (like concealed weapon on blade) so theres no need for them. Every other class has more dd skills. The lack of options hurts build versatility. Theres also an issue with crux. You’re forced to play build tentacle and spend beam on dd. Thats not versatile at all. They really need to add some dd morphs to some of the tank/ heal abilities that gain/ spend crux. Or a passive that can gain crux when you are overhealed or something. Imo they need Dd delayed burst ability. A heal added to one of the spammables and a passive added to one like concealed weapon. A buff to the tentacle semi spam (both morphs) Maybe make the tentacle debuff apply for the groups damage not your own. A buff to the dot. One morph buff damage and increase the aoe size on the pull of the other. A bursty aoe dot like talons or even a prebuff self dot like deadly cloak or solar barage. A buff to the rune spamables damage. An additional way of generating crux. Having four dd abilities is just no where near enough options.

@Ditronus. Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. Like the color of your hoodie, by the way. Hard to find shirts with that color!

@bradfordhatt555 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for helping myself and the devs with this interesting new class. I thought it was my play style that was preventing me from getting decent damage in PVE with this class. Hopefully the devs will listen to your advice and fix what is needed. The extra time left in the PTS and more feedback about this class should lead to some drastic changes. Keep up the informative videos. Thanx again!

@SevenSinsGER Жыл бұрын

This class has actually pretty good dps but it's quite different to play and needs a lot of practice until it clicks. Been hovering at about 95k dps at first and couldn't really get any higher parses. So I revisited my build, dropped the Runeblade (spammable) and switched from Deadly Strikes + Whirl of the Depths to Coral Riptide + Pillar of Nirn and immediately got up to 105k. With some more practice I managed to hit 112k parses and after getting used to balancing my stamina at

@tomguglielmo9805 Жыл бұрын

@@SevenSinsGER good job uploading your 120k arcanist parse......

@SevenSinsGER Жыл бұрын

@@tomguglielmo9805 It's on the way no worries. Just wanna learn using davinci resolve first and not cut it with Windows 11's build in video editor as usual.

@summerbrez Жыл бұрын

Good critique video that covers all the important points where arcanist can be improved Hopefully needed changes will be made

@Pastrahmy Жыл бұрын

Numbers are easily adjusted, and I'm glad to hear the class looks and feels good. Thanks for the review!

@TheAlphaOmegaX3 Жыл бұрын

You do have the AOE 8 meter pull from Ruin of Displacement. To have an class aoe pull and a class taunt for the first time is a awesome combo. So where DK's chains are the best single target pull, only Warden has class pull that kinda measures up. So it's balanced in that sense to me. Agree on another dot and burst.

@laurenparks-ex4fw Жыл бұрын

I've been playing a stam build with the arcanist because my resource sustain with just mag is not good, so focusing more on stam allows me to pull from the mag pool and makes it feel more balanced. But even with stam, it still feels pretty challenging overall, though I think the abilities themselves feel good and look great. I like to hear your take on the numbers part of it because it makes me feel less crazy.

@tomguglielmo9805 Жыл бұрын

Stams the way. Passives for penetration and damage are sweet.

@lukasr1166 Жыл бұрын

@@tomguglielmo9805 with light armor, the pen passive and major breach you can get to pen cap solo. Mag will be the way to go for solo content.

@Badchocobo Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated video 👍🏾 I agree, the tentacles should hit harder and be you burst after your rune spam and crux building. The book beam shouldn't be a beam at all it should be you version of the netch/Templar rune circle/merciless/crit surge/molten weapon. The morphs should be one for damage and buffs&debuffs and the other for healing mitigation and resources. The channel should be reduced to 2 or 3 seconds. Even pvp you can use environment to line of sight while channeling

@sheepdoggy_blahhh2331 4 ай бұрын

What armor is that

@avidnecro Жыл бұрын

Thank you for making me feel better about my necromancer 😂😂

@BishopDeeds Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review. Hopefully they fix these things

@undervine Жыл бұрын

I’m eager for Necrom but I might for now stick to my necro main as I’m finally figuring the math out after latest patches 😂

@romanvanriper9069 Жыл бұрын

This was needed. Good video

@DeZnitro_ Жыл бұрын

Yo your outfit matches your characters 😂. Love your content Delt!

@AbominationKO Жыл бұрын

I like your input. Hope they listen or all we'll have with this class will be a short honeymoon stage.

@soupy2287 Жыл бұрын

ZOS is pulling some expert reverse psychology... make perople beg for a buff then they can't complain when it's OP when it goes live

@irishsage2459 Жыл бұрын

😅😅😅😅

@m3ducraft Жыл бұрын

I don't think a pull is needed for tanking. All classes have access and use the leash, except DK, but that in my opinion must be a DK only thing. Why? Because the Arcanist has a taunt, it is the only class that has a taunt. Are you saying ArcTank should have everything? Taunt, pull, shield, heals? Nah that is too much in my opinion.

@m3ducraft Жыл бұрын

Man, I have seen parses with huge DPS. And also, Hyperioxes (arguably the best tank in the game) had huge shields in his last video (stream) of the new trial.

@Despond Жыл бұрын

Yeah, complaining about parses but then adding "one bar builds: is not the fully story. A class should be balanced on when it uses all it's utility and 2 bars. Separate balanced for a specific mythic item? Silly.

@TitanEidolon Жыл бұрын

My takeaway from playing it was that the rotation with the beam felt good, it felt different and unique, it just didn't perform well

@TitanEidolon Жыл бұрын

I had okay numbers with deadly, whirl of the depths, and Valkyn Skoria.... But still like 20K DPS less and I can pull on a stamina sorcerer or nightblade

@xezqeznunya6671 Жыл бұрын

You are either super honest in comparison to 5 or so others I have seen talk about Arcanist or you just have not tested enough to do this video. Other than a near unkillable pvp heal build I have now seen a couple pve videos glorifying arcanist as well as a couple dps videos for pvp talking bout the high damage.

@hx3trapped Жыл бұрын

I’ve been playing in the PTS (overland mostly) the past couple of days and I’ve found a couple things disappointing. As a not very skilled player…I’m forced to rely on the beam because every other damage mechanic is too weak. At the same time the beam lasts way too long (just my opinion). All of the heals feel the same to me. They just look slightly different. I agree with you on almost everything you said in this video. Apocrypha looks fantastic but it feels like its lacking enemies. There are so many open spaces where a player could be fighting something…anything. It feels similar to Blackwood which I no longer play simply because its boring overland. I hope that the devs are watching and taking note because in its current state the new class is simply disappointing and underwhelming. If a new class is introduced it should be powerful and fresh and kick a** and it’s just not as of yet.

@sw5949 Жыл бұрын

I think the problem you’ve discovered here is indicative of a systemic issue that makes eso kinda crap. Everyone has dots and gets them for free. This is a problem that doesn’t exist in most other mmos. You have to specs into dots and you don’t get Uber Direct damage while you have dots. Meanwhile eso gives you everything for free - so the second there is something that deviates, it ceases to be as good as the basic class that’s existed 9 years and gets the best dots, for free in the game (DKs)

@mufasafalldown8401 Жыл бұрын

It's the "every class can do everything" design... the game really doesnt need more classes. I love the game, but that (along with LA weaving) drags it down a ton for me.

@lukasr1166 Жыл бұрын

@@mufasafalldown8401 that has done nothing but hurt the classes. NBs and Templar who are not good tanks, waste many skills on morphs on tanking skills. Nobody uses these classes to tank, so all it does is take away skills that could be used for a DD or healer which these classes are far better at. And at the same time DK has everything and is good at everything while some classes have nothing to offer and aren't good at anything in particular like Templar and Necro. I believe this is a massive design failure

@polvocorrupto Жыл бұрын

He says that Arcanist has no pull skill, but then I look at Rune of Displacement and there is indeed one. He also doesn't talk about the broken Vitalizing Glyphic Ult, which is what makes both Arcanist Tanks and Healers into the most powerful damage boosters for the entire party in the meta.

@user-tl8dq4cu8c Жыл бұрын

don't speak to me , speak to him directly please

@RemaTheLegend Жыл бұрын

u da best Deltia

@irishsage2459 Жыл бұрын

I find the class clunky, damage is not great at all, and there's no burst to speak of and no delay burst at all. Damage is just missing. The ultimate suck, flat out. This is from a PvP perspective. PvE I could only parse about 70k...as you say in the video, there's no dots to speak of. Healing is extraordinarily high, and with reduced magicka glyphs it's almost free. Healing is absolutely S tier. Shame because, obviously, I love green. Could be an interesting class, unfortunately it hits like a feather, not even a noodle !!!!

@tomguglielmo9805 Жыл бұрын

All they need to do, is add a passive that reads "the green stinky stuff is nasty. Increase disease damage by 25%"

@flobster1 Жыл бұрын

I guess magdk is still gonna be the way to go for pvp because everything needs a buff ;-;

@HomelessKoala Жыл бұрын

Deltia looks like he hasn’t slept since arcanist hit the pts 😂

@Mike-zj5ww Жыл бұрын

So your saying the Archanist is really a well read Templar?

@SevenSinsGER Жыл бұрын

It parses 120k+ wdym it's far behind the others?

@Despond Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's misleading because now all of a sudden a class should be balanced around oaksoul kek. It's doing very well with parses and has insane solo dmg+survivability.

@SevenSinsGER Жыл бұрын

@@Despond Yeah I'm glad Oakensoul get's nerfed. It shouldn't be possible to get more then decent DPS on top of being almost unkillable with literally 20 APM. The new mythic is a way better approach to not punish players with bad weaving too hard while preserving skill expression.

@lukasr1166 Жыл бұрын

How is 120k good when even warden can do more than that?

@SevenSinsGER Жыл бұрын

@@lukasr1166 Wardens parse 128-129k. Arcanist parses 126k (so far). There's honestly not much of a difference. Also a lot of passives are still bugged and not working on PTS.

@lukasr1166 Жыл бұрын

@@SevenSinsGER the top dps is stamsorc. At 137k. With the difference being only 11k between the top and bottom, even 3k is a massive difference. Even then that's not everything. Stamsorc parses the best but is generally not being played because DK has so much more utility, aoe and buffs. The Arcainist needs to atleast equal DK to be viable, but even then it needs to provide provide utility and buffs to take spots in groups.

@ADarklore Жыл бұрын

I posted a link to this video in the PTS Arcanist feedback thread, hopefully they take it seriously.

@alfonsklapa3353 Жыл бұрын

i dont really feel like a class needs to be able to do any thing some should be better in certian situation then the others. and since eso is so big you can easy use other spells to fill in the gaps.

@chrisblack6895 Жыл бұрын

The pve aspect of the class feels good to me. You set up a couple of dots on ur back bar with arena weapons such as stampede, etc and ur front bar should be focusing ur spammable x3 n2 tentacles, spammable x3 into book, spammablex3 into book, refreshing dots as needed. I'm currently testing deadly + nirn and my book alone ticks for 42k every tick. I do agree that it needs more burst potential for pvp, however.

@jhall229 Жыл бұрын

Deltia is on top of it

@ranjnijan3446 Жыл бұрын

80k damage is considered low? nowadays!?!? Damn i used play back when 40k - 45k was considered high end. lol

@jamesonwolfston4613 Жыл бұрын

That's true. The normal damage is 90k - 100k, but usually 95k - 100k, but it's not high. The high one is 120k - 135k. They buffed damage btw.

@Despond Жыл бұрын

@@jamesonwolfston4613 No. He is talking about oaksoul damage. ARCANIST is parsing 125k+ and that is more than fine.

@BlackeberryEso Жыл бұрын

I agree , burst damage is a must in pvp, in the tank meta we have With maras and what not , burst damage is king

@krishadyn5211 Жыл бұрын

Mara's is getting nerfed again

@benstephens187 Жыл бұрын

Such an honest and great video. Preeshiate you providing this for the players and the devs. Let's hope they listen and learn

@Bumbum_Inspector Жыл бұрын

This is why I didn't want a new class. I want them to redesign the buff and debuff system and give all the classes unique buffs and debuffs that are exclusive to them and don't overlap with anything else and give the classes and weapon skill lines 4-5 new abilities per skill line to create more build concepts. That would've been way more interesting in my opinion.

@paintballpreppertmvawomani1341 Жыл бұрын

80k is very good. I only got 70k on 1bar work build

@jakewolff2488 Жыл бұрын

I would much rather see burst\glass canon damage over DOT damage for the Arcanist class since sorcerer is the only other one that isn't a DOT heavy class. I do think ZoS has to up the damage a lot in order for it to chunk health. I would also like to see Damage Ult fire a laser that lops X amount of health over it being a DOT. For instance: summons dood and after 1 sec mercs a 5 to 8m area with 20k damage or oblivion damage for 10k.

@hex_scoops2860 Жыл бұрын

I like the look of all the abilities, but some of the effects seems a wee bit underwhelming. Creative, but underwhelming. There needs to be more ways to consume crux. I also think some abilities should reward crux if use correctly. As a healer main, I like Runemend, but one of Runemend’s morph should consume crux to either provide more healing, or heal more allies per crux. I also like Remedy Cascade as a healing Kamehameha. I’m not quite sure about the Chakram Shield, I’m having mixed feelings with it. Arcanist Domain, is nice with all of the buffs, but it completely negates one of the armor sets. I think there should be a crux mechanic involved to give it a little oomph. Apocryphal Gate, to me seems useless in PVE and it a bit more useful in PVP.

@pvansteenlandt4437 Жыл бұрын

Did several healer buids with the arcanist, nothing looked decent.

@jimfrostpreaches Жыл бұрын

It lacks in damage,while there are like 5 vids where the parse 126K! LOL missed the boat there.

@iuppiterr Жыл бұрын

Yea from a pve perspektive its fine, i think pvp is the losing point here

@naplzt4k Жыл бұрын

This class seems more about being support with dmg then a main dmg dealer which will work for what I have in mind for it

@NullVoidNA Жыл бұрын

I wish they'd make the damage beam a burst shot snipe rather than locking players into a long channel. I was holding off playing eso to make an arcanist but I may just roll up a nightblade or templar at this point. I'm seeing issues that simple number adjustments aren't gonna fix. This class needs a large rework.

@chunkycat5296 Жыл бұрын

7:03 you called?

@jokerlo87 Жыл бұрын

Bruh everyone be in my damn color since this new chapter been rocking that green for 3 plus years.... Ugh so annoying

@lordbane5627 Жыл бұрын

You know you're a sweaty player when you're sweating on video.

@nathanvoss5148 Жыл бұрын

The moment I saw the beam was not auto target it was going to be a disappointment in terms of pvp. Personally the tentacle should be hitting like deep fissure etc.

@llawlied6902 Жыл бұрын

Wish they would swap both, make the tentacle the main burst damage skill and the weird beam something else like the aoe stun damage skill so both PvP and pve are happy Or even better don't make a regular skill take 4s that take away the player control

@Goji_Bear Жыл бұрын

I mean it's a fun mechanic having to aim it but yeah it's gonna be hard to hit a 100% of the time on moving targets and in pvp it's basically useless except on keeps in Cyro like Deltia says. Maybe if they added a bit of aim assist to it like in a Halo game? Then you would still have to use your head and aim good but it would be alot more forgiving and guarantee you hit the targets most of the time

@llawlied6902 Жыл бұрын

@@Goji_Bear heard in the recent patch notes they added a slight aim assist setting you can turn on and off but it's still a 4s cast in which you can't heal and everyone can interrupt it

@Badchocobo Жыл бұрын

I agree, the tentacles should hit harder and be you burst after your rune spam and crux building. The book beam shouldn't be a beam at all it should be you version of the netch/Templar rune circle/merciless/crit surge/molten weapon. The morphs should be one for damage and buffs&debuffs and the other for healing mitigation and resources. The channel should be reduced to 2 or 3 seconds. Even pvp you can use environment to line of sight while channeling.

@bminturn Жыл бұрын

LET'S GO HUSKERS

@dyattz Жыл бұрын

No, every class doesnt need a lame delayed ability - Id love to see the tentacle buffed and used as a big boy burst dmg option instead and they should drop the channel. Id love a pull on one of the morphs of the tentacle. The dps ulti is fine. (not talking numbers) The beam is fine. (not talking numbers)

@Cynic3018 Жыл бұрын

Theshockcable

@HomelessKoala Жыл бұрын

Isn’t parsing well? I’ve literally seen it hit 122k already? 😂😂😂

@sirlancealot2043 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate it when it comes to console ill make a dps and not a tank hard to get away from my DK tank anyways

@Vahndamme Жыл бұрын

Welcome to Templar life, not enough dmg to get people into execute range :D need to wait for others to do it

@xezqeznunya6671 Жыл бұрын

Watched a video of a healing build that makes you nearly unkillable with massive burst heal. Pvp 1 v x or even better for group

@zporteso3493 Жыл бұрын

You have a link to that?

@xezqeznunya6671 Жыл бұрын

@@zporteso3493 can prolly find it

@xezqeznunya6671 Жыл бұрын

@@zporteso3493 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f9uXm5iqur-akYk.html

@zporteso3493 Жыл бұрын

@@xezqeznunya6671 cool thanks

@zporteso3493 Жыл бұрын

@@xezqeznunya6671 found anything?

@ijklown Жыл бұрын

What kills me is you have people already saying that it is overpowered and "why run anything else." The class has a lot of potential and I agree with a lot that you said. It really comes down to who the devs listen to when it comes to feedback, the ones panicking and maybe not even testing it, just watching streams and reading tooltips... or the ones really, really testing this.

@ADarklore Жыл бұрын

Sadly, the devs don't actually listen to ANYONE'S feedback but their own. Time and time again... and even now, Arcanist balance changes have been punted to next week, basically ensuring that it will be the final build for launch with no more time to take additional feedback.

@ijklown Жыл бұрын

@@ADarklore Agreed sadly. I just read the new patch notes and was blown away that Arcanist just had fixes. Like when did Week 3 notes become a filler week? It used to be Week 3 and 4 were bigger and a good amount of changes and adjustments because of feedback.

@SarcasticGame Жыл бұрын

As it is now released I 100% agree. The class is frustrating and not fun to use. I shouldn't have to use unstable wall of elements against trash mobs to get damage and I absolutely hate the damage beam, it's clunky and awkward to use. It's not satisfying to use. I feel like the class is work to use. I feel stressed out playing it.

@funkydunkas101 Жыл бұрын

They really wanted this to be the next tank or healer role. This class doing damage is like a dk healing

@drewb9911 Жыл бұрын

zos is probably trying to avoid releasing it OP, otherwise they'll be accused of using the class for sales

@Despond Жыл бұрын

But a new class and content should be used for sales. Why hide that? lol

@drewb9911 Жыл бұрын

In the past, things have come to the live server pretty powerful. They're progressively nerfed over the next year, after release. People believe this to be intentional to entice people to buy the newest and best stuff.

@qryvein Жыл бұрын

In current state it seems hybrid heal and hybrids are weak then compared to the rest😅. the class was to be aspected medioker also that class was hinted very long time ago, the whole aspect was look cool in its first mentioning, but even then i told the devs its has too many downs side and needs more then just look cool and they had 10+ years to fix it.

@nerdbomber Жыл бұрын

402 represent!

@bminturn Жыл бұрын

I think that the Arcanist will shine as a support class. Ball groups are going to abuse the crap out of the healing mechanics.

@ar-xelian2757 Жыл бұрын

I stay with my templar...

@aprilgodvivi6776 Жыл бұрын

I told myself that I would main the fck out of dps arcanist no matter what.Force myself to love it, 2 months left till it drops on consoles.

@siniister710 Жыл бұрын

these change recommendations are all great, hope they do some of it leading into it because as a new class I'd expect it to be a little OP

@sly2076 Жыл бұрын

The arcanist seems thematically really cool but in practice sucks pretty hard lol

@Despond Жыл бұрын

It's very easy to play and strong in PVE. Easiest class of all classes.

@MrDane86 Жыл бұрын

I really want to be hyped about the arcanist I really do! But im just not... Everything from the skill lines to the animations, it just doesn't appeal to me

@Not____Applicable Жыл бұрын

I really hope the devs listen to you more than other people. You actually critically review each aspect of the class instead of just saying oh look it’s good in this specific way with this specific gear. You also don’t just consider your own opinion as an established player but rather how will this class bring more sales. More creators need to learn from you tbh.

@Siberiasun2 Жыл бұрын

i agree, in pvp it feels really weak, unless you're fighting someone who has no idea what they are doing. Is it really struggling in pve? seeing people pulling 120kish, and i've been soloing all kinds of content no problem with em.

@Aptonoth Жыл бұрын

It's the first time ever a class is near launch and widely said to be too weak lol. It's a strange day I guess kudos to ZoS for realizing how op the other hew classes were at launch. They will prolky slowly buff it up.

@SevenSinsGER Жыл бұрын

That's not true. Wardens were pretty weak when they released. They were called "Jack of all trades. Masters of none" for a reason back then. It required a major nerf to DK Tanks and Templar Heals and additional Warden Buffs for it to finally see play many months after it got released. Not to add that Warden dps' have never seen play in optimized groups since their introduction 6 years ago.

@jg7450 Жыл бұрын

From a pvp perspective, I really don’t want a burst damage ability to replace beam. The beam is actually quite good. Problem is the class plays a lot different from everything else and doesn’t cater to newer players. But when played right, it is actually very effective and has huge burst.

@ADarklore Жыл бұрын

'When played right' you mean when you run the specific trial/dungeon gear... then you might actually be able to be equal to existing classes? Because that's what Arcanist is right now. Horrible for new players and pretty much anyone with low CP and doesn't have the specific gear that's required.

@jg7450 Жыл бұрын

@@ADarklore when I was testing, I didn’t run dungeon or trial gear. I ran very easily attainable pvp sets, and the burst was there. The class has a niche for sure. And does it cater to newer players? Probably not, but it doesn’t have to, and it can certainly be effective at lower levels like the other classes. Just has to be played a little differently than the others.

@lukoscreyden Жыл бұрын

I just hate the abyssal ink debuff. Its a busywork debuff and predictably, the class is lesser than the others without it. Except, they pulled damage down a little TOO far so even WITH the debuff, it sounds like damage is too low.

@ak86db Жыл бұрын

GOD TIER JUST A COUPLE DAYS AGO LMAO

@timslagleii9299 Жыл бұрын

You gotta use your COMBO meter dude.

@ThatRandomDude204 Жыл бұрын

Surprised that a new DLC class isn't that strong but then again they did want a support class so having subpar damage kinda makes sense but the buffs are all over the place

@Rayz0rs Жыл бұрын

Its not really a good support class though. It doesn’t have any unique group buffs/ debuffs. Optimised groups probably would get no value out of them. If its a support class it needs to buff damage like how cro does with fattys or how dk does with stagger. DK and Cro are ran on tanks because they offer unique buffs. Arcanist offers nothing except the yol buff but it’s probably not worth dropping yol to have an arcanist instead of just having another parse dd.

@ThatRandomDude204 Жыл бұрын

@@Rayz0rs That's kinda what I meant to say but really didn't know how Deltia wouldn't really complain too much if it was actually a good support class but seeing as how the buffs work it's just too much work to do that other classes can do casually sometimes with a single click of an ability. The class is just too mediocre

@CreativeExcusesGaming Жыл бұрын

It is a lot stronger at least for solo play than deltia is giving it credit for here

@MarkConway73 Жыл бұрын

OK so ravage health potions will be useful

@ADarklore Жыл бұрын

Sadly... they've punted Arcanist balance changes to next week. Which basically means, there will not be any time left in the PTS cycle for any additional "feedback" to be incorporated. This is an all-too-familiar thing with ZOS... they say they are taking feedback, yet behind the scenes they already KNOW what direction they're going to go, and typically ignore any feedback. PTS is for finding and reporting bugs, nothing more.

@Melsharpe95 Жыл бұрын

This is why PTS is so important. Test test test.

@motsy15 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the honest review. Wait until they nerf it..

@billgrod764 Жыл бұрын

Ty for the post as usual well done. I think your looking at this wrong and (1st time here ) thinking zos on the right track. The arcanist has two (I think) skills that replace sets. The arcanist tank will be very viable cause you will now have an extra tank set in the mix. I think your asking for a super viable tank, heals and dps out of the gate. Look at NB, DK healing are they super viable in end game content? For a long time warden mag dps was trash. I could go on with examples, but I know you know where I am going with this. It's day what 3 or 4 for the pts things will change. Ask me ask to to much, more disappointment will follow. I hope (in this case) the arcanist goes live balanced and not crushed. I think people would rather have years of enjoyment than a few weeks on pts. Ty again for the post, love your work.

@derekbraun6812 Жыл бұрын

as a DPS player i'm gripping the carpet and kicking my legs with tears streaming down my face

@juno0865 Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't the suggestions you make at the end, make the class OP? What other class has ALL of the things you suggested combined with just the class kit?

@irishsage2459 Жыл бұрын

No, not really. The class itself offers about 10k less than other classes. It wouldn't be OP in any way, but it would bring it up to the bare minimum. Test for yourself on pts, and you'll easily see it needs a lot of help DPS wise. A LOT

@boomermorgan Жыл бұрын

Thank you for helping me save money 😂

@Rayz0rs Жыл бұрын

Another issue with the class is the beam. I think it would be better if it was just an indefinite length of time whilst you hold the button. Currently its super awkward as you cant optimally relay dots or your semi spam debuff tentacle so stuff drops off constantly.