The Art Of Punk - Dead Kennedys - The Art of Winston Smith - Art + Music - MOCAtv

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The Museum of Contemporary Art

11 жыл бұрын

On this episode of The Art of Punk we hit head on with the art behind the legendary Dead Kennedy's. From the chaotic, surreal, madness, of collage mixed with political folly that blazed their LP's and gig flyers; to the razor edge ultra simplistic four simple line DK symbol. In San Francisco we corner founding Dead Kennedy's member Jello Biafra, and discuss his own warped inspiration for the many sleeves and posters created in the early days of the band. Back in Los Angeles we talk with pop surrealist artist Tim Biskup about how the DK's affected and twisted his own young mind, and Steve Olson graces us with a few words of wisdom. Finally we meet up with master collage artist, and designer of the DK's symbol, Winston Smith in his North Beach art studio, and talk about how he was drawn into the early Bay Area punk scene - and his long and creative artist relationship with the Dead Kennedy's and Jello Biafra.
Created, directed, and Executive Produced by writer/author of 'Fucked Up + Photocopied', Bryan Ray Turcotte (Kill Your Idols), and Bo Bushnell (The Western Empire), The Art Of Punk traces the roots of the punk movement and the artists behind the iconic logos of punk bands such as: Black Flag (Raymond Pettibon), The Dead Kennedys (Winston Smith), and Crass (Dave King).
In addition to profiling the artists, the series includes intimate interviews with former band members, notable artists, and celebrities who have been heavily influenced by the art of punk rock including Jello Biafra, Tim Biskup, Scott Campbell, Chuck Dukowski, Flea, Steve Olson, Penny Rimbaud, Henry Rollins, Owen Thornton, and Gee Vaucher.
The filmmakers Bryan Ray Turcotte and Bo Bushnell take a unique approach to exploring the rich histories of these three seminal punk legends by focusing on the influential imagery and seeking out stories that have not been told yet through the artwork, which is integral to the importance and influence of each band.
On June 11, 2013 The Art Of Punk debuts on MOCAtv with an episode on Raymond Pettibon and the artwork of Black Flag. The stories behind the art of the Dead Kennedys will debut on June 18, and June 25 will see the release of the Crass episode, all of which will be available at: / mocatv
Created By:
BRYAN RAY TURCOTTE
/ bryanraymond
www.KillYourIdols.com
BO BUSHNELL
/ bobushnell
BoBushnell
bobushnell.com
DIRECTED BY:
BRYAN RAY TURCOTTE
BO BUSHNELL
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS:
EMMA REEVES
JOHN TOBA
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS:
BRYAN RAY TURCOTTE
BO BUSHNELL
STARRING:
RAYMOND PETTIBON
KEITH MORRIS
CHUCK DUKOWSKI
HENRY ROLLINS
FLEA
CAMERA:
JOSH WEBBER
BO BUSHNELL
JASON BAKER
EDITED BY:
TIM BROOKS
BEAST EDITORIAL
ASSISTANT EDITOR:
PAUL JAROLIMEKPRONER
BEAST EDITORIAL
LOCATION SOUND:
NOAH ALEXANDER
CHARLES EASTMOND
MOTION GRAPHIC DESIGN:
BRENT STANGEL
MUSIC SUPERVISION:
BETA PETROL
MUSIC BY:
RAW NERVE
THEME MUSIC:
SON THE FATHER by FUCKED UP
COURTESY BEGGARS GROUP
ADDITIONAL MUSIC BY:
C.R.A.S.H.
SCANNING BY:
JESSE SPEARS
SOUND MIXING:
PHIL LANTZ
M SQUARED PRODUCTIONS
COLORIST:
TIM BROOKS
PHOTO STILLS PROVIDED BY:
BRIAN TUCKER
ED COLVER
SPOT
RYAN RICHARDSON
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@MyNameIsMrStuck
@MyNameIsMrStuck 9 жыл бұрын
Winston's observation about punk "movement" lasting longer than the peace love and hippie crap is pretty interesting. The observation that rage and hatred sticks longer than peace and love is pretty profound, even scary.
@mykneecapshurt
@mykneecapshurt 7 жыл бұрын
MUD_- it's observable throughout history, pretty much every large movement (good or bad) came to power and popularity through extreme opposition and hate towards the status quo
@buggs9950
@buggs9950 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure the comparison should be peaces & love / rage & hatred. It's just different ways to rebel, that is, doing nothing vs doing everything you can to subvert and fuck with the system. In hindsight it would seem that yes, doing something makes more impact, surprise..
@canstermeat8171
@canstermeat8171 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly how hippies want you to think -- peace and love good, rage and hate bad, even though all of those are human emotions.
@thorazine8402
@thorazine8402 3 жыл бұрын
Since when is protest and questioning authority equivalent with rage and hatred? SMH
@CyberDeity01
@CyberDeity01 5 ай бұрын
It's really always been more of a modality type thing by way of generational eras, whereby oppression creates the need for a rise in in resistance; usually government or church, this time both...
@senorpigeon9564
@senorpigeon9564 5 жыл бұрын
So punks made memes before memes were a thing. This is the best fact I have heard all time.
@generalbacardi3863
@generalbacardi3863 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. This is correct. However, punk normalized horseshit.
@lexscott2911
@lexscott2911 3 жыл бұрын
Actually you guys, memes have heen around forever, I would argue cavemen are more deserving of the credit. What do ya think Lascaux is?
@recynd77
@recynd77 3 жыл бұрын
@@generalbacardi3863 Sadly, you are 100% not wrong.
@hjillumi880
@hjillumi880 2 жыл бұрын
oh fucking hell not this shit
@thevaxxines
@thevaxxines 3 ай бұрын
Some of the best album covers of all time!!
@MrPeguin666
@MrPeguin666 11 жыл бұрын
lol "Nike Swooshtika"... I love Jello
@betazzo76
@betazzo76 7 жыл бұрын
this video is outstanding
@stumppuppettheatre
@stumppuppettheatre 11 жыл бұрын
There were quite a few punks who were trained artists and even more "fans" who were definitely outsider artists. Many of them did in fact do flyer art: David Brandt, Pusshead, Paul Votava III, Steve Humann. Several tattoo artists: Snickers, Mark Mahoney; also "fine" artists: Brian Tucker, John Denney, Phil Bower, Sue Tissue, Tim Armstrong; and photo/film creatives: Penelope Spheeris, KK Barrett, Nicole Panter, David Markey, Janet Cunningham, Ed Colver, Nikki Tucker, Jenny Lens, etc...
@mandermpf
@mandermpf 11 жыл бұрын
The Germs blue circle is an excelent logo too.
@pjr5913
@pjr5913 7 жыл бұрын
exactly most iconic
@s.a.l.1974
@s.a.l.1974 4 жыл бұрын
They also had the nazi skeleton
@generalbacardi3863
@generalbacardi3863 3 жыл бұрын
Horseshit lazy twat
@VioletDeliriums
@VioletDeliriums 10 жыл бұрын
2:39 This is such a funny story about the fake bands and venues! You would think that it would kill a scene to fake people out like that, but it's funny it sort of landed him a job making art for punk bands. It kinda validates the line of thought that says, "If you want to make something happen, just start a rumor."
@paulfox1020
@paulfox1020 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like convid
@davemarriott9332
@davemarriott9332 3 жыл бұрын
Great interview. Winston made a record cover for our band ‘Infested’ back in ‘95 in San Francisco. I remember going over to his house to meet him/talk about the cover....we went to his room and on the wall was the art piece of ‘In God We Trust’. I stepped back “there it is” I said, Winston said “yep it’s there”. Showed us the cover he worked up for ‘Helpless White Grub” with a 50’s style Ozzy n Heriot kitchen, fridge open, mother piecing out a worm pie to her waiting son with his bulging excited eyes....Fucking brilliant. One the nicest guys I’ve ever met and very honored to have worked with him. Glad to see he hasn’t changed...(I don’t think he ages)
@felgfc
@felgfc 11 жыл бұрын
please keep up with this series!! The Art of Punk has some of the best content and approach I've seen in a while, congratulations MOCATV
@davidkoenig8592
@davidkoenig8592 11 жыл бұрын
Goodness, this series "The Art of Punk" is becoming the best thing I've seen in a very, very long time...Collage art is very difficult to pull off without it looking pretentious...Winston Smith did it the best. Very influential in my life...
@alanhansmannkurtcobain8811
@alanhansmannkurtcobain8811 Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Great Art!
@deanhumphries7878
@deanhumphries7878 2 жыл бұрын
The Dead Kennedys Art work for there albums and single covers in an Art form on it's own, Love the Dead Kennedys. Respect from the UK.
@i2ndsight
@i2ndsight 7 жыл бұрын
So glad to have made that historic introduction you guys!
@JemalDiamond
@JemalDiamond 11 жыл бұрын
This is great. I had no idea my design, typography, and collage practice was being influenced by Winston Smith and other designers when I was thrashing around listening to this awesome angsty music back in the day.
@jamescourtney4655
@jamescourtney4655 11 жыл бұрын
Those Shriners are so funny!
@DrFrankenskippy
@DrFrankenskippy 5 жыл бұрын
Zoinks! ... now that is a brill' POV of this great artist and of course Jello/the san fran punker scene
@007KrausBean
@007KrausBean 7 жыл бұрын
On of the most iconic and the BEST logos ever.
@betapetrol
@betapetrol 11 жыл бұрын
MISFITS is coming!!
@s.a.l.1974
@s.a.l.1974 4 жыл бұрын
Pleeaaase
@dant8008
@dant8008 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome series! Would love to see more!
@svenjo72dpi
@svenjo72dpi 11 жыл бұрын
This is mos def the best music documentary ever!
@devinrodriguez3530
@devinrodriguez3530 Жыл бұрын
I love that Steve Olson shows up in all these punk docs love you Olson
@yaronimus1
@yaronimus1 6 жыл бұрын
AWESOME GRAPHIC DESIGN!!
@rogeliogonzalez5293
@rogeliogonzalez5293 10 жыл бұрын
Love Winston. Love Jello. ~~~~ Simplicity contains the secret of genius. In other words; "Less is more.".
@Electric.Spaghetti.Neon.Studio
@Electric.Spaghetti.Neon.Studio 11 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Pushead!!! Talk about an influential dude... today there are 10,000 artists drawing skulls because of him.
@noahtavlin
@noahtavlin 11 жыл бұрын
love the series!!! more please
@mandermpf
@mandermpf 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Love that logo!
@jimhorwat
@jimhorwat 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome series! Very well done. Would love to see more... My vote is for D.I. They had an awesome logo - Mayan dog statue thing; very '80s O.C. skate-ish
@DanWasHereToo
@DanWasHereToo 11 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I'm glad I stumbled upon this!
@T9X78
@T9X78 10 жыл бұрын
Very cool....thx
@carvinblack
@carvinblack 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@tyelland
@tyelland 11 жыл бұрын
Great story !
@betapetrol
@betapetrol 11 жыл бұрын
Love That Book! Viva La James Stark
@crossfiretv3602
@crossfiretv3602 11 жыл бұрын
Yes Winston. Looking dope there bruv.
@cameraboynyc
@cameraboynyc 11 жыл бұрын
More please. You have to keep this series going, there are so many great logos left; Skank Man from Circle Jerks, Seven Seconds, Minor Threat ....
@victorschmidt3164
@victorschmidt3164 6 жыл бұрын
I always draw the logo on tables at school
@obiwaltkenobi575
@obiwaltkenobi575 5 жыл бұрын
lol, mee too, together with anarchist A, Squat N, Totalni Naszeni TN
@s.a.l.1974
@s.a.l.1974 4 жыл бұрын
Me too, and black flag and jfa and poison idea and agression and void
@helenfreud2088
@helenfreud2088 10 жыл бұрын
this impact everyone
@LetsGoMetsGo33
@LetsGoMetsGo33 10 жыл бұрын
the pistols (jamie reid, vivienne westwood), ramones (arturo vega), and clash (simmonon and jones went to art school, did a lot of stencils and paints onn clothes and backdrops) would be cool episodes too.
@squirrelguirrel7010
@squirrelguirrel7010 6 жыл бұрын
Cheetah Thunders. You are right, we’d be interested. Please go make those videos!
@Skeletonwitharaygun
@Skeletonwitharaygun 11 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the misfits video. :D
@BRB2370
@BRB2370 8 жыл бұрын
awesome
@kingobeast8528
@kingobeast8528 11 жыл бұрын
Don't know that one but here is one I have cherished for many years; "Streetart, the Punk Poster in San Francisco, 1977-1981"
@MxAxRxK
@MxAxRxK 6 жыл бұрын
I have that “let them eat jellybeans” record
@RunningP123456
@RunningP123456 11 жыл бұрын
i would love to see that
@saulgoodmanshellokittyphone
@saulgoodmanshellokittyphone 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the collages made by Biafra
@samorenpalmer
@samorenpalmer 8 ай бұрын
Dope
@meowmeow-cr5sn
@meowmeow-cr5sn 2 жыл бұрын
"What if Crass was funny" is probably the best was to describe Jello
@jesuspeaksfrench
@jesuspeaksfrench 11 жыл бұрын
Rudimentary Peni next would be sick!
@pinkaerozeppelin
@pinkaerozeppelin 11 жыл бұрын
awesome icon
@chriscameron9321
@chriscameron9321 5 жыл бұрын
Hate will still be there long after love has dissolved and left this world!
@djashearman6453
@djashearman6453 11 жыл бұрын
Loved this series, any chance of more? Need a Rudimentary Peni one!
@peteormond3565
@peteormond3565 Жыл бұрын
Might not be the easiest thing in the world to get an interview with Nick Blinko
@fredxmertz
@fredxmertz 11 жыл бұрын
"In God We Trust, Inc." is like a soundtrack to my life.
@mandermpf
@mandermpf 11 жыл бұрын
I hope they make Misfits, Crass and Ramones episodes. Crime, FEAR and Bad Brains have great text logos too.
@LetThePoorStarve
@LetThePoorStarve 11 жыл бұрын
Cool
@thesanfordmethod1905
@thesanfordmethod1905 10 ай бұрын
Half of these bands , not all, wou;dn't even exist if it wasn't for Ray's artwork. Ray Pettibon is like the 5th beatle in many bands imo.
@LetThePoorStarve
@LetThePoorStarve 11 жыл бұрын
NO kidding! How could they leave that out! That was HUGE obscenity case! Jello went on Oprah!
@IanInfernal
@IanInfernal 11 жыл бұрын
Do Circle Jerks soon! The skanker man is rad.
@Electric.Spaghetti.Neon.Studio
@Electric.Spaghetti.Neon.Studio 11 жыл бұрын
I think the story of that poster warrants its own episode. Though I'm sure they passed over it in this one because it was Giger's art and not Winston's.
@dontgetmewrong2669
@dontgetmewrong2669 8 жыл бұрын
kinda strange that there is no dk music at the beginning
@zverina
@zverina 7 жыл бұрын
due to legal battles it seems you can either have Jello or the DKs in your doc, but not both. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Kennedys#Legal_conflicts
@dasadopeboy
@dasadopeboy 9 жыл бұрын
i used it as my initials, fuckn cool
@heyphilphil
@heyphilphil 7 жыл бұрын
dasadopeboy That's Awesome Dickie Kooter!!! Awesome!!!
@CarlosOrtiz-wi4kf
@CarlosOrtiz-wi4kf 3 жыл бұрын
punk is live star time real music is power is love just day is punk.
@jessesnyder5150
@jessesnyder5150 8 жыл бұрын
The symbol is the rune for grief and fear no B
@LetThePoorStarve
@LetThePoorStarve 11 жыл бұрын
Minor Threat or Misfits next!
@sabbracadabra8367
@sabbracadabra8367 2 жыл бұрын
The video pairs well with the Black Flag Raymond Pettibon video.
@GreatestPotential
@GreatestPotential 11 жыл бұрын
LARD saved my life.
@rocketmatt1996
@rocketmatt1996 11 жыл бұрын
Also, the misfits should be next. The story behind the crimson ghost.
@noodledalight5
@noodledalight5 11 жыл бұрын
Bad Brains
@dddsssaaaqqq
@dddsssaaaqqq 4 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know which collage Winston talks about when he speaks about Niagara Falls?
@ellettcheyneArt
@ellettcheyneArt 11 жыл бұрын
tsol or adolecents next!
@gosoku2771
@gosoku2771 6 жыл бұрын
Circle One.
@o.liveil7111
@o.liveil7111 4 жыл бұрын
Jello is my punk rock grandpa
@freakgeek66
@freakgeek66 11 жыл бұрын
"What if Crass was funny?"... Then people would probably still like them 30 years later... like Black Flag.
@buzzardsinuses4780
@buzzardsinuses4780 4 жыл бұрын
People don’t like Crass? I’ve never heard of them until I saw this video.
@soylentramen7795
@soylentramen7795 3 жыл бұрын
"We're ruled by dangerous, mad people. What's funny about *that* for fuck's sake?"....
@betapetrol
@betapetrol 11 жыл бұрын
VIVA LA DEAD KENNEDYS
@Cheshire_Alchemist
@Cheshire_Alchemist 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, collage art can be deeply misunderstood as scrapbook art in the wrong hands, with the wrong attitude about what it can be...
@betapetrol
@betapetrol 11 жыл бұрын
CRASS is up now!
@turbomustang84
@turbomustang84 7 ай бұрын
Best punk band ever and political but having the good sense to hate both sides . And east bay ray never got the respect for his screeching guitar that absolutely deserves it
@ElCazador66
@ElCazador66 11 жыл бұрын
Fuckin awesome
@OccupyJordan
@OccupyJordan 11 жыл бұрын
Great vids, but nothing about H.R. Geiger and the Frankenchrist work?
@tonykuchar3237
@tonykuchar3237 11 жыл бұрын
What is the title of the book being burned in the intro?
@ani9ikocug474
@ani9ikocug474 8 жыл бұрын
minor threat gamw
@eamonic
@eamonic 10 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what song plays at the end during credits?
@TheJajajajaja21
@TheJajajajaja21 8 жыл бұрын
+eamonic sounds like the band Fucked Up to me, not sure what song it is, though if you like it their whole discography should do you some good
@eamonic
@eamonic 8 жыл бұрын
Jacob Dunn Thanks you.
@ghoulhellbilly2528
@ghoulhellbilly2528 5 жыл бұрын
im voming here once in a whice for couple of years, and i still dont know what's the music at 1:42
@Inimbrium
@Inimbrium 11 жыл бұрын
|>|< forever!
@radogguts6165
@radogguts6165 3 жыл бұрын
I wish doom could have worked with gello
@smashism
@smashism 11 жыл бұрын
Pushead next
@z.833
@z.833 3 жыл бұрын
Is it his real name? Or did he take it from George Orwell's 1984?
@aandreaa0000
@aandreaa0000 5 жыл бұрын
☆☆☆☆☆☆☆
@Lazarob12
@Lazarob12 7 жыл бұрын
Song at 4:50?
@iAmShitFaced1
@iAmShitFaced1 4 жыл бұрын
Lazarob12 Hoax - Down
@mandermpf
@mandermpf 11 жыл бұрын
I disagree on fucking The Ramones, Its a great logo and iconography (though that one already heard that story). I am also interested in hearing about The Sucidal Tendencies graphic expression.
@chainsawbarbarian
@chainsawbarbarian 10 жыл бұрын
You mean the Dead Kennedy's hexagram? Their logo is a 6 pointed shape that (with a "Y" in the middle is a 3D cube. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m96aoben3dHFonU.html Here's my video about hidden occult/freemason symbols on old punk rock records. A triangle up and a triangle down...the Star of David. Same as MOCA's spinning cube at the beginning of this vid. They are everywhere. Not calling it evil....just trippy. Crack a beer and please enjoy! PS.....the cube inside the circle makes the Masonic square and compass. Come be amazed, punkrockers!
@baker3person
@baker3person 9 жыл бұрын
Whats the song at 2:35?
@CuentaRegresiva2021
@CuentaRegresiva2021 8 жыл бұрын
stuck by Hoax
@RunningP123456
@RunningP123456 11 жыл бұрын
how did they not talk about the frankenchrist poster???
@flintandsteel1743
@flintandsteel1743 6 жыл бұрын
RunningP123456 they did
@robertcaffrey6097
@robertcaffrey6097 5 жыл бұрын
If you like Winston Smith and Gee Vaucher art then check this out kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a8h-irJp2LKoZ30.html
@manuelfong2648
@manuelfong2648 7 жыл бұрын
whats is the intro song
@frankdiscussion2069
@frankdiscussion2069 9 жыл бұрын
Why is Jello Biafra in a wheelchair??
@MyNameIsMrStuck
@MyNameIsMrStuck 9 жыл бұрын
Frank Discussion I'm assuming its not because he is crippled because it appears he is at a show.
@lowerclassbrats77
@lowerclassbrats77 6 жыл бұрын
Old high school football injury. 🤐
@D3lirium-ik7dg
@D3lirium-ik7dg 6 жыл бұрын
Frank Discussion His injury from his jock days caught up to him.
@sn1000k
@sn1000k 5 жыл бұрын
do you people not know about him being almost beaten to death?
@6AM_YT
@6AM_YT 5 жыл бұрын
He is being crushed by the weight of his own bullshit and ego.
@filibertovera4923
@filibertovera4923 8 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA I have a Dead kennedys Fillmore poster
@TheXitone
@TheXitone 8 жыл бұрын
+Vera666 its the way you tell it thats funny
@orphanstephen
@orphanstephen 11 жыл бұрын
Jello drinks Deschutes
@santiagoblanes6969
@santiagoblanes6969 Жыл бұрын
"what if crass was funny" 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@EWKification
@EWKification 5 жыл бұрын
Other than the logo no piece of art was displayed for more than a fraction of a second. This inadvertently undercuts the whole premise of the video, and the series, which is that the art associated with punk is worth looking at. Well, let me fucking look at it for at least one second then. Apparently whoever made the film didn't think it was worth looking at for more that a fleeting instant. That says really quite a lot. The whole point of a still image is that it stays still so your eye can wander around it. It's NOT just a frame in a movie to disappear in a tenth of a second.
@KnoxHardGallery
@KnoxHardGallery 11 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why they don't use any of the music from the band they are featuring?!
@DisappearHere
@DisappearHere 11 жыл бұрын
music licensing is $, and there's legal issues between the band members
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