The at-home DNA test craze is putting us all at risk

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Verge Science

Verge Science

5 жыл бұрын

Investigators have begun solving violent crimes through a new kind of DNA search - one that relies on DNA data from popular at-home DNA tests like 23andMe and AncestryDNA. But, as consumer DNA databases grow, a disturbing reality emerges: you could be identified via your DNA even if you’ve never taken a DNA test yourself. In this video, we explore how that’s possible.
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@VergeScience
@VergeScience 5 жыл бұрын
This is our first big collaboration with Vox! Check their video out as well, and let us know what you think: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f6-Hn8SlttqYe3k.html
@HahtaanDaetori
@HahtaanDaetori 5 жыл бұрын
Great job! Can't wait for more to come.
@Godofschool
@Godofschool 5 жыл бұрын
Do a video on AI taking on humanity 😖😖
@AmritZoad
@AmritZoad 5 жыл бұрын
LOL, isn't that your parent company?
@HahtaanDaetori
@HahtaanDaetori 5 жыл бұрын
@@AmritZoad vox media is the parent company, vox is the sister company
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 5 жыл бұрын
Verge Science When are we going to stop blaming other things for people's attitudes and behavior instead of the people themselves? Racism has been around for a long time, ancestry tests didn't bring any part of it back. It's always been here. And acknowledging race and people's heritage isn't the problem, racism is. Thinking you're better cause of your race is the problem. Let's deal with that
@KrzysztofC-1
@KrzysztofC-1 5 жыл бұрын
We have different definition of "super cheap"...
@Nobody-11B
@Nobody-11B 5 жыл бұрын
No doubt
@jvv-r
@jvv-r 5 жыл бұрын
Naprawde..
@PapaTrump
@PapaTrump 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@DavidPigivulpe
@DavidPigivulpe 5 жыл бұрын
Super cheap compared to what DNA testing used to cost.
@Gerard-oo8os
@Gerard-oo8os 5 жыл бұрын
Forest Eagle for others, that’s like salary of one for working for 15 days. Think of your privilege.
@MissusO
@MissusO 5 жыл бұрын
I was so close to buying a DNA kit two years ago. I stopped myself after reading the terms and conditions, which stated that they would own my DNA sample once submitted and receive the right to share it with outside partners. No thank you.
@ChessaIsLit
@ChessaIsLit 5 жыл бұрын
@@yomat3414 But are you really going to or have the ability to? No, probably not.And if you do, nobody will probably care and this person's privacy will not be compromised.But, there is something much more scary about a giant company holding your DNA in a private database where they can do whatever they want with it.
@ms.timmerman4731
@ms.timmerman4731 5 жыл бұрын
The first person to have ever read the terms and conditions
@c.a.s1900
@c.a.s1900 5 жыл бұрын
Oh hell no!!!
@pri.sci.lla.
@pri.sci.lla. 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I've been saying this and people just say I'm paranoid. Like no, I just don't want my DNA to be sold to god knows who for whatever reason.
@yeaxjustsmile20
@yeaxjustsmile20 5 жыл бұрын
sploofmonkey medical mafia?
@gradualpull2171
@gradualpull2171 5 жыл бұрын
I took this DNA test as well. Turns out I am 0% LEGO. I'm very disappointed.
@MollyMcBooter
@MollyMcBooter 5 жыл бұрын
Gradual Pull LOL
@1L6E6VHF
@1L6E6VHF 5 жыл бұрын
You need to be banished from KZfaq. We won't have Duplos here! (Joke)
@gradualpull2171
@gradualpull2171 5 жыл бұрын
@@1L6E6VHF We are all mixed. You're probably part mega blok too.
@josephk3926
@josephk3926 5 жыл бұрын
I was surprised to find out I’m 78% Bionicle
@1L6E6VHF
@1L6E6VHF 5 жыл бұрын
@@gradualpull2171 If you were to see me in person, you would see I am Mega Bloc. Can't change that, it's just in my PVC.
@MsDizzleRox
@MsDizzleRox 5 жыл бұрын
The capture of a bonafide serial killer definitely does not help illustrate the dangers of DNA tests. Maybe don’t lead with that one. 😅
@kimzastrow1268
@kimzastrow1268 5 жыл бұрын
That is if there is not human errors...people use their blood for tests at a hospitals and leave their DNA everywhere...these issues have never come up in the past
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
@@kimzastrow1268 Hospitals do not send your DNA to be sequenced. The reason in the past was MONEY. A hospital is not going to spend any more money than it has to. They would charge you for it.
@BearhaNighly
@BearhaNighly 5 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!!!!
@croe5357
@croe5357 5 жыл бұрын
@@kimzastrow1268 definitely! In the blood screening room, in the waiting room, in the restroom...oh, and in crime scenes of dozens of rape and murder victims. Those ambulances don't go around saving people, they just drive around sprinkling random blood at crime scenes.
@roseofsharon1009
@roseofsharon1009 5 жыл бұрын
@@shawnr771 don't hospitals sell placentas to stem cell research companies
@Johnniewalker78
@Johnniewalker78 5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I have nothing to worry about because my DNA isn’t made from LEGO blocks.
@Vbluevital
@Vbluevital 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@niffniffhooray
@niffniffhooray 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure mine is.
@rhodesianwojak2095
@rhodesianwojak2095 5 жыл бұрын
>
@justinforche2869
@justinforche2869 5 жыл бұрын
75% percent of the ppl watching this are still going to get hives from watching this. Paranoia is real.
@VauxhaIIOpel
@VauxhaIIOpel 5 жыл бұрын
I can't feel mine, so I am unsure.
@c.l.7680
@c.l.7680 5 жыл бұрын
"I leave my DNA all over the place." Hell yeah, my dude.
@SHx589
@SHx589 5 жыл бұрын
That made me chuckle. Thanks 😂
@blue_cameron
@blue_cameron 5 жыл бұрын
The sheets, the wall, the floor EVERYWHERE
@testicleetus5298
@testicleetus5298 5 жыл бұрын
Owo what is that on his search history?
@tennysonsmith7963
@tennysonsmith7963 5 жыл бұрын
Pronkle Tonkle “Sister....” oh
@testicleetus5298
@testicleetus5298 5 жыл бұрын
@@tennysonsmith7963 "Step sister doe-" oof
@zfern3881
@zfern3881 5 жыл бұрын
“Why would you voluntarily send your dna to the internet.” -bill burr
@linseydickson7782
@linseydickson7782 5 жыл бұрын
No kidding
@kcbh24
@kcbh24 5 жыл бұрын
@Michael Hawkins except, most comedians are pretty intelligent and they also provide social commentary, not just humor.
@leesteal4458
@leesteal4458 5 жыл бұрын
@Oneof Many In your case, definitely does. Good for you.
@GMarieBehindTheMask
@GMarieBehindTheMask 4 жыл бұрын
Why not
@KilonovaBurst
@KilonovaBurst 5 жыл бұрын
My friends are also paranoid about DNA testing too. Yet they share anything and everything about themselves on Facebook,twitter,Instagram,etc and store all their information on thier phones.....🤷‍♀️
@septiikos9680
@septiikos9680 5 жыл бұрын
@@emmm_4465 they said their friends don't want to share their DNA info but gladly post everything about themselves on social media
@SheSweetLikSugarNSavage
@SheSweetLikSugarNSavage 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@jayv9394
@jayv9394 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I honestly don't think DNA testing is bad like people think, all i see is paranoid everywhere.
@Xighor
@Xighor 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayv9394 it's not Paranoia it's one thing to have all your information and I mean everything on everyone on a CIA database even that is scary enough and wrong but it will real scary and dystopian when they have your DNA/genetic profile, health profile, finger prints, etc of everyone Inc innocent people It's not just private companies who you don't want having your DNA it's the Government
@joshuasanders2449
@joshuasanders2449 11 ай бұрын
@@jayv9394you don’t think it’s bad, therefore, your opinion must be objective reality?
@CharlesLightning
@CharlesLightning 5 жыл бұрын
Don't worry guys, everyone is already trackable through the internet :')
@AlizaJayne
@AlizaJayne 5 жыл бұрын
Bob Kabob not an a genetic level, but I hear ya.
@Deathend
@Deathend 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously. I have a friend that is too afraid to use Venmo because of privacy concerns, yet that same person looves social media and uses it a ton.
@DWSP101
@DWSP101 5 жыл бұрын
Bob Kabob yep lol
@rhodesianwojak2095
@rhodesianwojak2095 5 жыл бұрын
not really, take some minor precautions and you're good pretty much
@Poemi10304
@Poemi10304 5 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is google my name and you can find my current and past addresses. All of them. Wtf.
@Piemasteratron
@Piemasteratron 5 жыл бұрын
Barely mentioned but medical insurance companies able to change your premiums based on your DNA is way more important than the risk of a false positive as it will affect everyone in a country
5 жыл бұрын
Genetic Discrimination Act
@aaronlandry3934
@aaronlandry3934 5 жыл бұрын
Piemasteratron Unless everyone in the country has lied about their medical background, that won’t be a concern.
@deepseavalkyrie559
@deepseavalkyrie559 5 жыл бұрын
Yet another reason to implement universal healthcare.
@G-Loud
@G-Loud 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@TheNajSD
@TheNajSD 5 жыл бұрын
There is also work with genetic patents.
@Shagley87
@Shagley87 5 жыл бұрын
Dont worry, you probably have a mobile phone in your pocket everyday. Sending your location, browsing history, calls, txts, bank details, travel bookings, you name it to not only your phone provider but countless other people from all the apps you've tried and websites you've visited......oh and it's linked to your home address through monthly billing/subscriptions. If you think your info is safe just because of data laws think again. Knowledge is power. We were all taught as children not to talk to strangers yet with the help of social media and a mobile phone we tell strangers quite literally our life story daily. Sorry folks! That's just the world we've all helped build for ourselves, enjoy! :/
@vanessaladolcetta6660
@vanessaladolcetta6660 5 жыл бұрын
Shagley87
@gailmiller6333
@gailmiller6333 5 жыл бұрын
Shagley87. You're 100% correct.
@dh2513
@dh2513 5 жыл бұрын
Shagley87 so true.
@jakewalky73
@jakewalky73 5 жыл бұрын
All you sheep will forget about this comment tomorrow proving how little you care about the world you’ve made
@wolfy1476
@wolfy1476 5 жыл бұрын
@@jakewalky73 who are you...?
@dreadcthulhu5
@dreadcthulhu5 5 жыл бұрын
What concerns me about things like this is the potential for abuse of this information. Say for instance insurance companies decide they won't insure you because you are genetically predisposed to a certain medical condition. After all they are already pretty stingy about wanting to pay out for us as it is even if you have been paying money in for years. And I'm sure that wouldn't be the only potential problem with these things.
@lil_weasel219
@lil_weasel219 5 жыл бұрын
I dont think that particulat case with insurance is a legitimate concern as you tested yourself to know your disease risks revealed. If you look objectively it is cheating on your part. There are many vastly more worriesome uses of this information however, and it is creeping me out
@lil_weasel219
@lil_weasel219 5 жыл бұрын
@Crypto the issue is that we are not concerned or cautious. We leave unencrypted public genetic databases open to attack. We are diving head down blindly into this mess without any concern for this or the future generations
@dreadcthulhu5
@dreadcthulhu5 3 жыл бұрын
@Cruiser I can't worry about both? They're not mutually exclusive.
@abcw114
@abcw114 3 жыл бұрын
How are they going to get the information? Is an insurance company going to get a warrant for your 23andme results?
@dreadcthulhu5
@dreadcthulhu5 3 жыл бұрын
@@abcw114 It's called bribery, hon. Money can buy you any information you please. Or if they can pass a law that you have to have such testing done in order to get insurance in the first place then then they can deny you outright if you're too much of a risk. Getting the testing done willingly just makes it that much easier really. I often see the potential for how things can be abused, but then I have the imagination combined with just enough paranoia to understand how the unscrupulous think. If others can't then I don't know what to say.
@JustinY.
@JustinY. 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely no one Companies: Let's monetize people's DNA
@indigo-streak9912
@indigo-streak9912 5 жыл бұрын
Justin Y. Hey, still popular in the comment section?
@dan_sharafutdinov
@dan_sharafutdinov 5 жыл бұрын
Stop following me!
@melbournemeliodas215
@melbournemeliodas215 5 жыл бұрын
Hey! Justin Y. Its been so long.
@blahbleh5671
@blahbleh5671 5 жыл бұрын
meow4meow
@celinak5062
@celinak5062 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah they should be paying people, at least
@andmicbro1
@andmicbro1 5 жыл бұрын
So in the case of the Golden State Killer it wasn't quite as simple as trolling the database till they got the killer. They identified some potential relatives, then looked at the family, interviewed people, tried to find connections like who lived where, when, etc. And then once they found a suspect they approached them, asked if they could take a DNA sample to try and get an exact match. When the match didn't happen they moved on to the next most likely person. They had to go through that process a couple of times, interviewing people, identifying a potential suspect based on the interview information, then test that person. Finally, after another round of interviews, and narrowing down even more, they found the Golden State Killer. It was a combination of DNA, and looking at patterns of where the person was during the time of the crime, and fitting all the different pieces together. To get to the killer police had to personally interview at least dozens of people, and they had to get two people's consent to a DNA test, before they could narrow it down enough. So while it is a bit creepy on the surface, there was actually a lot of old fashioned police work that went into identifying the killer. That's not to say we shouldn't be concerned with privacy. I think that's perhaps the biggest concern we should have. But looking at how the Golden State Killer was ID'd and then captured, I'm actually pretty okay with what went down with that. Because there was a lot more that had to play into that case besides just the DNA, and the database publicly available.
@BillyBob-os7kr
@BillyBob-os7kr 5 жыл бұрын
Anduril yep I no but people always looking for a way to turn something good bad
@petergranado5883
@petergranado5883 5 жыл бұрын
Finally, a voice of reason. Thank you!
@josharntt
@josharntt 5 жыл бұрын
I don't really see a problem with tracking down rapists and killers through DNA.
@stuffstuff137
@stuffstuff137 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being the voice of reason here. I don’t see the problem of using DNA to catch people who are doing bad things there is nothing wrong with it.
@NewfieLawNerd
@NewfieLawNerd 5 жыл бұрын
They also forgot about the detailed investigative research done by late author Michelle McNamara
@homesweetsc
@homesweetsc 5 жыл бұрын
3:15 calling a buzzfeed article “news” makes me question the credibility of this video 😂😂
@crazy_tulip1552
@crazy_tulip1552 5 жыл бұрын
I want to know about my DNA and family tree so bad, but the fact that the government could potentially use it for things I’m unaware of is terrifying
@MariaGarcia-yp4hc
@MariaGarcia-yp4hc 4 ай бұрын
Same bro
@meta5175
@meta5175 5 жыл бұрын
“I leave my DNA everywhere and I could be easily found” GATTACA Vincent: hold my beer
@AS-mo9sh
@AS-mo9sh 5 жыл бұрын
Vincent and Jerome best couple
@infamouspbj3609
@infamouspbj3609 5 жыл бұрын
ayy we watched that in bio a couple weeks ago
@whitealliance9540
@whitealliance9540 5 жыл бұрын
Wow cant believe 355 people saw gattaca to know this joke... That was a goood movie. A bit boring but good. He made it into that place and achieve his dream
@BYToady
@BYToady 5 жыл бұрын
The first time I watched Gattaca I thought it was because he wanted to go into space, sounds kinda like Galactica (of the Battlestar type). And then I was like, wait, DNA. The wrong part of my nerd brain was working that day I guess.
@gradualpull2171
@gradualpull2171 5 жыл бұрын
And it was a great movie. More relavant than ever before.
@jeromeriedl
@jeromeriedl 5 жыл бұрын
This guy seems awfully concerned about being investigated
@quianaellison6520
@quianaellison6520 5 жыл бұрын
He does though
@emerald1031
@emerald1031 5 жыл бұрын
The average white guy always acts like this
@loulouamour2828
@loulouamour2828 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are fools he is right he is warning you about your right to privacy... Not a white male's issues but civil rights issues...
@quianaellison6520
@quianaellison6520 5 жыл бұрын
@@loulouamour2828 how is this a civil rights abuse if the people are FREELY giving out the DNA. The law system doesn't go on DNA alone but also by cross examination
@xulti
@xulti 5 жыл бұрын
Loulou Amour He means that he is the rapist...
@FATTONYKAUAI
@FATTONYKAUAI 5 жыл бұрын
I sent my spit to the dog breed dna site. They said I need a lower protein diet and more exercise 🙀
@romeoa.6634
@romeoa.6634 5 жыл бұрын
lmao WHAT
@canadiannavigator3346
@canadiannavigator3346 5 жыл бұрын
FAT TONY KAUAI 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ferrerofernando8431
@ferrerofernando8431 5 жыл бұрын
😂 *...This bietch...*
@tfny100
@tfny100 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@29DPT
@29DPT 5 жыл бұрын
FAT TONY KAUAI 🤨🤨🤨🤨😂😂😂😂😂😂🥰
@BeenDead
@BeenDead 5 жыл бұрын
Yea but I was also able to find my birth father and siblings with ancestry so I guess if it's worth the gamble.
@FUSCHIAdreamz
@FUSCHIAdreamz 5 жыл бұрын
Been Dead how? My friend is adopted and we don’t know who her parents or other siblings are
@BeenDead
@BeenDead 5 жыл бұрын
@@FUSCHIAdreamz ancestry DNA. I had absolutely no info about my father through my adoption, but my DNA matched with my half brother as well as many other cousins on his side. It doesn't always work out like that though, I have yet to find my birth mother. I would totally suggest doing a test if this video doesn't spook your friend out of it. Ancestry has the largest index of DNA (compared to sites like 23 and me etc), so you probably wanna use their service. If I can be of any assistance please lmk!
@patricioansaldi8021
@patricioansaldi8021 5 жыл бұрын
my friend had a similar result, she found a bunch of half-sisters, pretty cool
@7KingCobra7
@7KingCobra7 5 жыл бұрын
Why the fuck would you want to meet your REAL parents if they dumped your ass?
@BeenDead
@BeenDead 5 жыл бұрын
@@7KingCobra7 because my real parents didn't dump my ass, they were just in circumstances where they could not raise a child in a healthy happy stable environment. Go ahead, I've heard every adoption insult in the book. Can't blame people who don't know any better, right? 😉
@mikeg9b
@mikeg9b 5 жыл бұрын
DNA tests can lead to discrimination, therefore DNA tests are bad. Really? Why don't we just say wrongful discrimination is bad and enact policies to deal with that?
@wolimoli
@wolimoli 5 жыл бұрын
Thats the thing though, that already is prevented through legislation in multiple ways
@KingHalbatorix
@KingHalbatorix 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Gainey because those policies can't be enforced, dumbass
@jonathandpg6115
@jonathandpg6115 5 жыл бұрын
@@KingHalbatorix Except they can. Easily. Why would a company be doing genetic tests on people...that would be enough proof that they are trying to discriminate against you. BAM caught red handed. It's why a lot of companies when doing medical tests will just receive a "Fit for duty" or "not fit" result so that they can't be accused of discrimination.
@MamaMOB
@MamaMOB 5 жыл бұрын
Prove you weren't hired for a job because your DNA says something about you that you don't know about because you didn't have your DNA tested. Going to be kind of tough isn't it?
@MamaMOB
@MamaMOB 5 жыл бұрын
@@jonathandpg6115 you really missed the point of this video didn't you? The whole point of this video is that it's a risk to people who DON'T get tested.
@KX36
@KX36 5 жыл бұрын
It's already known to be the case that juries put too much weight on crime scene DNA, often being unwilling to say "guilty" without DNA evidence, and other times calling them guilty on the basis of *only* DNA which might be there coincidentally or might be contradicted by other evidence. I'm also worried that as DNA data becomes more ubiquitous, people might find ways start using it to frame others for their crimes.
@topman8565
@topman8565 5 жыл бұрын
It could literally have been a secret lover who know one new about then leaves then the murderer murders and theres plenty of DNA for a stranger
@kamikazehound3243
@kamikazehound3243 5 жыл бұрын
KX36 exactly
@death299
@death299 5 жыл бұрын
Nope. DNA and fingerprints even if you were given an exact blueprint are difficult to replicate While technically possible it requires immense work and resources to do Then it has to match the usual extraction methods..it can't LOOK like it is synthetic And it is has to match your markers..all of then with no variations The sheer amount of effort it would require..for centuries even with breakthroughs Makes it the least effective way of framing someone for a crime Hell it's easier to alter tapes without a trace and show a murder and a confession that never happened DNA isn't simple
@JustinKenward
@JustinKenward 5 жыл бұрын
Too much weight on crime scene DNA? Unwilling to say guilty without DNA evidence? I think you have that backwards. If anything jury's determine guilt with emotion. I don't have any references on hand right now, but more often than not people look at the defendant and assume their guilt or innocence. We need for more forensic evidence. Witness testimony is absolute garbage. And don't get me started on the so-called quote "written confession" end quote. More often than not a written confession is the person trying to get you arrested pretending to be on your side by saying, "If you write an apology letter to the company they'll let you keep your job. But you have to say that You knew what you were doing was wrong and that you are sorry for it." What they don't tell you is that you're actually signing a written confession that they are later going to use in your prosecution.
@sndspderbytes
@sndspderbytes 5 жыл бұрын
It could trigger a murder if guys start sending their babies and children's DNA to check if the baby or child are his and not someone else. Even organized crime could start using this technology to police and investigate there own "cases". Even a small time drug dealer can create a DNA data base for their own seedy purposes. Data bases are really just modern forms of the dreaded list. Lists are the corner stone of any take over of any size. When governments or individuals start demanding lists its always no good for the innocent and the guilty!
@aliciaerickson9862
@aliciaerickson9862 5 жыл бұрын
Title Update: The at-home DNA testing craze is putting current and future rapists at risk.
@ubcphysicsyangbo
@ubcphysicsyangbo 3 жыл бұрын
Basically, the morale of the story is - DO NOT CRIME. I would stand by that.
@FlowerThePot
@FlowerThePot 5 жыл бұрын
Accessing DNA to catch rapists? I’m not mad about it, but I am worried about false matches and the fact that we leave our DNA all over the place, even if we’re innocent.
@southernnordic7027
@southernnordic7027 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's scary. Anything that can be used to solve a crime (good) can be used for malicious intent.
@chelelee6321
@chelelee6321 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Touch DNA can be easily left on anything, even money. Then, that DNA has the ability to be transferred to another surface or object unintentionally. Scary thought.
@echobravo889
@echobravo889 5 жыл бұрын
People should be worried because insurance companies will purchase DNA data from those companies to determine pre-existing condition exclusions.
@joelfilho2625
@joelfilho2625 5 жыл бұрын
@Natasel So poor families without access to genetic therapy will star racking up genetic diseases, and eventually won't be even able to afford insurance. Health systems would also not want to sustain someone who might be sick all the time. Employers won't want someone who might be sick all the time. Husband's/wives won't want people who might be sick all the time... Segregation V2, electric Boogaloo, now with a much greater price of living and effectively making it impossible to climb the social ladder as someone who was born on a family without genetic therapy.
@cossaizy6309
@cossaizy6309 5 жыл бұрын
@@joelfilho2625 and thats why we have legislation
@joelfilho2625
@joelfilho2625 5 жыл бұрын
@@cossaizy6309 Ah yes. The perfectly respected and adaptable legislation, who all the large corporations *surely* must follow, am I right, fellow poor people? They would never *dare* to go against government stipulations and on morally dubious or outright immoral and illegal behavior! No stupid rich companies or people would ever *do* that. See Facebook, apple, google, and many others on how they spy on you, sell data to each other/third parties, and generally screw the people over. Besides, since the DNA database is public, Men\Women who don't want "sick" partners will just be able to see who has tendency for such things, and will just say "I don't like you" to any of them who tries to romance them. It won't be illegal, much like some southern Americans outright refuse to date non-whites. It might be *based* in racism, but the act of denying romance in on itself is not a crime. I also doubt employers would have trouble making up reasons not to accept the "sick".
@cossaizy6309
@cossaizy6309 5 жыл бұрын
@@joelfilho2625 you truely underestimate the power of legislation do you? Mark zuckerberg was called for a hearing for crying out loud. As for your romance anacdote, well tough luck is this some kind of "black pill", breeding has always been about eugenics, people marry people who they think is best for them... and even then there are people who actively marry people with disablities, people who marry obese people, people who marry relatives... so i dont get your point?
@joelfilho2625
@joelfilho2625 5 жыл бұрын
@@cossaizy6309 Yes I do underestimate the power of legislation. I come from a country where it is a joke and money rules all. All previous governments have been corrupt to the core and live at the whim of the corporate powerhouses. I don't think any country is immune to the power of money. As for my "romance anecdote"; my point was, the poor will breed only "sick" people with "sick" people, creating a vicious circle, where the poor end up getting more and more deformed as generations go on, with none able to afford Gene therapy. So now poor people have an even shittier living standard, because they have to pay for a short term solution to all their genetic problems: Glasses for bad eyesight, cochlear implant a for poor hearing, enriched food and crude vehicles for weak bones, in vitro fertilization for incontinence, etc. To a point where the poor may not be able to afford to *live* not because of a lack of food nor water, but employment, education, resources, and money.
@DoctorYammy
@DoctorYammy 5 жыл бұрын
For those who say, "Don't worry if you're clean," well, you should still worry. One of the biggest concerns if not caught as soon as possible is discrimination by big corporations. Imagine this: Tim is very smart, responsible, and has a shiny and perfect resume. The perfect candidate for the job he is applying for. He has no doubt that he'll get the job. Tim applies to the job, but a company runs his DNA through a database and gets a few diseases that he may be susceptible to in the future, like diabetes and cancer. Now the company doesn't want to invest time and money into Tim because he has all these genetic liabilities for these conditions. Tim is rejected from the job at this corporation and he probably doesn't know why. THAT is why this is important. And guess what? This is already happening. This is why Facebook and Google privacy issues are also important. We are in a new era of discrimination and most people don't know about it.
@outz7470
@outz7470 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. reminds me of the movie Gattaca.
@wesleyson21
@wesleyson21 5 жыл бұрын
If it's the U.S. they would be violating the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act. This was put in place back in 2008 to prevent insurance companies and employers from discriminating based on someone's genetic information. I agree that the widespread availability of DNA is a bad thing and will be abused more than it will be used for good.
@popeoftea
@popeoftea 5 жыл бұрын
@@wesleyson21 I was about to say that damn it lol
@demoniack81
@demoniack81 5 жыл бұрын
@@wesleyson21 _He just didn't seem like a good fit for the job._ How are you gonna prove that they used genetic information to reject him?
@craigme2583
@craigme2583 5 жыл бұрын
Then your date will run your DNA profile, hmmm your fifth cousin was a murderer or junky...you have 5% chance of obesity in later life! OMG!!! ...Your bank looks you up, hmmmm might get Brest cancer in later life, bad risk of not paying out mortgage for 30 years....Hmmmm, you apply to go to foreign country, they look up yr DNA profile, you have been exposed to hepatitis or was that malaria? The tests are inaccurate, but you dont carry it. But they say you must be a junky or gay! You dont get the visa. Youll never know why... We are all screwed! And I was worried what google knows about me...
@nogravity60
@nogravity60 5 жыл бұрын
So now i can't become a serial killer and not get caught?! How awful!
@kevininforks
@kevininforks 5 жыл бұрын
Just make sure you don't drop a large amont ie shave all your hair and shower with plain soap and brand new cloths. Gloves and a brand new jump suit. You also need to keep your body temp down during the murder part so don't sweat, after you can remove the suit for clean up.
@nogravity60
@nogravity60 5 жыл бұрын
@@kevininforks Gee thanks! Thought it was a lost cause! :-D
@rustyrose1959
@rustyrose1959 5 жыл бұрын
If its being used to catch rapists and killers....thats fine in my book! Go ahead.
@hamsterama
@hamsterama 5 жыл бұрын
Except for the issue of false positives. I saw a true crime show on TV where someone was harassed by police for a murder he did not commit. The guy's name is Michael Usry, if you want to look it up. This familial DNA nonsense needs to be outlawed. Do you think it's fine if you got thrown in jail, having to spend big bucks on a lawyer, etc. because of a false positive that came as a result of a distant relative sending in a DNA kit?
@EdithEsquivel
@EdithEsquivel 5 жыл бұрын
It can also be used to track social activists, environmentalists, whistleblowers, etc.
@joeschultz2
@joeschultz2 5 жыл бұрын
@@EdithEsquivel : Exactly! Those in power have a another weapon to stifle dissent by knowing where everyone goes.
@rustyrose1959
@rustyrose1959 5 жыл бұрын
Well yes as with any new technology can be used for good or evil. So it needs legislation and governance, it doesnt mean it should not be used at all.
@johnkress8785
@johnkress8785 5 жыл бұрын
@@hamsterama A false positive from familial DNA would only make you a suspect. Your specific DNA follow up test would exonerate you if you are innocent.
@foreverplaceholder
@foreverplaceholder 5 жыл бұрын
I've never known that stepping on my skin cells could hurt so bad.
@yee6818
@yee6818 5 жыл бұрын
Omg it took me 2 minutes to figure it out 😂
@tvcoguvrdivn7430
@tvcoguvrdivn7430 5 жыл бұрын
@@KyleScott the legos
@calebmatthews2026
@calebmatthews2026 5 жыл бұрын
Actual Factual what the hell are you talking about. Take your meds dude. You're in manic mode.
@johndifrancisco3642
@johndifrancisco3642 5 жыл бұрын
We were warned about this when they first discovered DNA.
@shawnmoran3606
@shawnmoran3606 5 жыл бұрын
We...we didn't listen!
@aaronlandry3934
@aaronlandry3934 5 жыл бұрын
John Di Francisco You’ve got nothing to worry about if you don’t commit the crime and are honest on your medical background checks.
@BygoneT
@BygoneT 5 жыл бұрын
@@aaronlandry3934 Listen, your might think that's a good argument but it's paper thin. People will make assumptions on what your DNA says. Uneducated, not reviewed by geneticists, bad assumptions. It doesn't matter if you did nothing if someone suspects based on DNA "Yeah, but you still COULD do X, right? Can you deny that it's impossible?"
@yescoblol
@yescoblol 5 жыл бұрын
Aaron Landry Yup this, im mildly frustrated that this video was made this way. Paranoid people are annoying af
@aaronlandry3934
@aaronlandry3934 5 жыл бұрын
Marvelous Quasar Pork Man If your employer or insurer doesn’t know how to analyze DNA, why would he look at it in the first place? That’s why they require medical background checks from doctors that can do a proper evaluation and tell you of any risks that you have.
@SJ47668
@SJ47668 5 жыл бұрын
I watched this video and an ad popped up at the end...for 23 and me - ha!
@mdrudholm
@mdrudholm 5 жыл бұрын
If you must use one of these DNA test kits, use a pseudonym when you submit it.
@austinblackburn8095
@austinblackburn8095 4 жыл бұрын
I get the idea but they will still probably be able to track down who you are if your a criminal using public birth records and census data. However it could help with private companies not knowing who you are sense it's unlikely they would go through that effort for every person.
@bingsby9085
@bingsby9085 5 жыл бұрын
Well sh. Now I have to murder my entire familial line, as well. #SerialKillerProblems
@bleepbloop2882
@bleepbloop2882 5 жыл бұрын
Itachi Uchiha style 💀💀💀💀
@calebmatthews2026
@calebmatthews2026 5 жыл бұрын
What would Dexter do?
@itzfusionplex4266
@itzfusionplex4266 5 жыл бұрын
I Am Trash 악의 꽃 You’re gonna pull an Itachi I see.
@somenightsidontknow3762
@somenightsidontknow3762 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂stop
@Alan-_
@Alan-_ 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that make you stick out tho
@oiseau_libre
@oiseau_libre 5 жыл бұрын
Normally, DNA tests are extremely expensive. These at home DNA tests are cheap for A REASON.
@alurnima
@alurnima 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the World of Tomorrow!
@Kobayashi360
@Kobayashi360 5 жыл бұрын
... flat Earth?
@oiseau_libre
@oiseau_libre 5 жыл бұрын
@@Yutani_Crayven just saying there is a possibility that they might be used for some not so benevolent purposes, who are you to state with 100% certainty that there absolutely isn't. Even though that isn't their initial goal, you never know what will happen in the future and who can get a hold of all these data, legally or not.
@SaneAsylum
@SaneAsylum 5 жыл бұрын
@@Yutani_Crayven Actually the cheaper new tests often provide more information than using the older chips...
@SteaksOnSpear
@SteaksOnSpear 5 жыл бұрын
They aren't cheap though. They cost like 67 euros lol.
@WagwanItsBonbon
@WagwanItsBonbon 5 жыл бұрын
The thing that really creeps me out is that 23&Me (I think it was them, or some other company I don’t remember) have admitted that selling you these kits that give you info based on your DNA isn’t their end goal, they eventually plan on doing other things with your DNA which they haven’t given any details on what that may be. That’s super creepy. “Hey send us your DNA and we’ll give you some information on yourself but oh by the way in the future we plan on using your DNA for other purposes that we can’t tell you about yet, but don’t worry at least you got a bit of information about who you are and where you come from...” YIKES
@bryanmartinez6600
@bryanmartinez6600 5 жыл бұрын
When you use ancestry to hook up. *Sweet Home Alabama*
@homelackin2234
@homelackin2234 5 жыл бұрын
Underrated
@marcfoster715
@marcfoster715 5 жыл бұрын
Mating with a relative does not need to be problematic, unless it's a sibling or close cousin...
@homelackin2234
@homelackin2234 5 жыл бұрын
@@marcfoster715 *hot*
@teresa4645
@teresa4645 5 жыл бұрын
No one in alabama does this tho :(
@croe5357
@croe5357 5 жыл бұрын
@@teresa4645 and you are sad because you wish they did?
@sportluver98
@sportluver98 5 жыл бұрын
Snapchat filters and Face ID are making a database of your faces...
@ms.timmerman4731
@ms.timmerman4731 5 жыл бұрын
sportluver98 wait... what?
@publicunknown
@publicunknown 5 жыл бұрын
Lol all i can think about is Arin from Gamegrumps having to make a stupid face to open his phone. Thats gonna be great
@Krislyamvids
@Krislyamvids 5 жыл бұрын
True
@AirNeat
@AirNeat 5 жыл бұрын
Everything is making a database of everything
@reisun6894
@reisun6894 5 жыл бұрын
Classic Dale with the theories
@thelonecabbage7834
@thelonecabbage7834 5 жыл бұрын
So basically, this has nothing to do with at home DNA tests, and everything to do with how DNA is being used in the judicial process.
@sirranhaal3099
@sirranhaal3099 5 жыл бұрын
That’s not what the video said at all. These companies have ties and partnerships with the government, which are able to get access to the most important information you own in secret with no accountability.
@thelonecabbage7834
@thelonecabbage7834 5 жыл бұрын
@@sirranhaal3099 Right, but that would never be an issue if the information were used properly by said government.
@bukketkid2567
@bukketkid2567 5 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid I didnt notice any cause for concern with the government having access to DNA since everything is on social media now. My concern is that anyone can use your DNA profile to scam people.... tho, honestly we all should have seen that one coming anyway.
@opia7693
@opia7693 5 жыл бұрын
The database they used was a public one people uploaded their OWN data to. I didn't hear a thing about the companies sharing it with the government
@TeeBeeBad63
@TeeBeeBad63 5 жыл бұрын
Did you hear "FALSE POSITIVE?"
@tamelo
@tamelo 5 жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to this future. Imagine being able to find compatible organs or missing children all over the world.
@vanjagrujic3563
@vanjagrujic3563 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine some kriminal harvesting your lungs cause he needs them, cause he can and you are just the right match, not giving a sh*t you need your lungs to 😥
@lil_weasel219
@lil_weasel219 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah and then imagine being found to be someone's compatible organ lol
@CrazyLinguiniLegs
@CrazyLinguiniLegs 5 жыл бұрын
As I understand it, one of the major drawbacks (for non-criminal types) is that if insurance companies are able to determine that you have a genetic predisposition to a particular disease, then they can legally refuse you coverage (or perhaps charge you much higher premiums and deductibles).
@Zsokorad
@Zsokorad 5 жыл бұрын
This video has failed to make me feel "at risk".
@littlemisspikachukitty
@littlemisspikachukitty 5 жыл бұрын
I really don't feel fazed and sadly I don't really care about any of this. You know there really is no "real" privacy nowadays and I see no point in working myself up about it. I'd be surprised if they didn't already have everyone's DNA somewhere super top secret. We have all had our blood taken at some point.
@sniper1k223
@sniper1k223 5 жыл бұрын
If you have ever had blood drawn or really anything to do with a doctor, your dna is not private. And I just can’t feel that worked up on it yeah.
@AirNeat
@AirNeat 5 жыл бұрын
@@sniper1k223 1) Hospitals can't release your information 2) They don't sequence your DNA at the hospital, and they don't send it anywhere to get sequenced
@flisboac
@flisboac 5 жыл бұрын
Well, imagine being discriminated against because of your supposed (DNA-inferred) health condition or probably-upcoming health conditions. Imagine third-parties everywhere taking wrong conclusions about you because your immediate or indirect biological relatives have given their DNA to some company that has no regard for your social well being. Imagine a company refusing to hire or provide services to you because you may contract e.g. a heart disease or cancer by a negligible margin. Imagine being charged way more than your peers, given similar conditions, for no apparent reason. Imagine not having a say in that at all, and only being refused/denied service without any form of recourse or explanation. These are things that are out of your control; you may opt to e.g. choose which data you share with whatever app/service you use, but when it comes to DNA material, it's impossible to retain any semblance of privacy (AFAICT). Worst of all is that those that worry about their privacy are being indirectly affected by those that don't -- kind of like what happens with big data/services, but in a whole different and unavoidable realm (i.e. physical).
@sniper1k223
@sniper1k223 5 жыл бұрын
@@AirNeat The state i live in (washington) Does actually let hospitals release information to companies. Even though that is technically against law...
@johntaylor9381
@johntaylor9381 5 жыл бұрын
Me: I’ve run out of things to be scared of. Verge Science: Hold my beer.
@paradoxfossils
@paradoxfossils 5 жыл бұрын
Serial killers will start collecting other peoples dna and scatter it among the crime scenes
@tatatinaa
@tatatinaa 5 жыл бұрын
ParadoxFossils Artifacts&Coins yeah I thought this was the most obvious con...they’d reproduce our spit
@paradoxfossils
@paradoxfossils 5 жыл бұрын
@@tatatinaa hair skin finger nails blood all of it.
@ardensetiawan353
@ardensetiawan353 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it's already been done for centuries? leaving false evidence and all...
@lilijody
@lilijody 5 жыл бұрын
Grab hair from different hair salons across the country and voila they have a million suspects 😂😂😂
@sidraofthestars
@sidraofthestars 5 жыл бұрын
I'm ok with it. I'm not that special.
@sidraofthestars
@sidraofthestars 5 жыл бұрын
Rofl. No thank you. Married with children.
@kcbh24
@kcbh24 5 жыл бұрын
@Michael Hawkins gross
@iWh15tl3
@iWh15tl3 3 жыл бұрын
You're one of a kind because you're made in God's image.
@wardabatool717
@wardabatool717 5 жыл бұрын
For those of u wondering why verge and vox uploaded at the same time it was cuz this vid was made as a collab between them. Just wanted to clear that up
@r.b.4611
@r.b.4611 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't Verge a Vox subsidiary?
@SomeDudeQC
@SomeDudeQC 5 жыл бұрын
@@r.b.4611 it is
@nataliep9651
@nataliep9651 5 жыл бұрын
Was a clear up necessary??? It was said in the video people just don’t pay attention
@VergeScience
@VergeScience 5 жыл бұрын
@@r.b.4611 The Verge and Vox are sister brands, both under Vox Media
@jackyzhu9761
@jackyzhu9761 5 жыл бұрын
Verge Science and Vox are the same company, so it’s a company collaborating with itself with different brands.
@nachobroryan8824
@nachobroryan8824 5 жыл бұрын
We're also giving biometric data to companies that sell phones.
@HerbaMachina
@HerbaMachina 5 жыл бұрын
If you mean fingerprint readers then no, your fingerprint is 1 not stored at all only a hash of it, and two that hash is generally stored in a secure area of the soc that powers the phone and not just regular non volatile memory.
@thonmoyrahman2270
@thonmoyrahman2270 5 жыл бұрын
No, that's all stored on a different system on the motherboard, completely self contained minus the main battery. That contains firmware that makes sure the raw data from the fingerprint is put through an algorithm in that system to find a pattern. If that pattern matches the encrypted hash stored inside, a signal is sent back to the CPU to unlock the phone. However, the UK and US government can get through this because they can remotely turn on a phone and unlock it regardless of what security it uses.
@calebmatthews2026
@calebmatthews2026 5 жыл бұрын
Machina I love when techies defend big data by saying it works this way here's all the parts and why it's impossible for them to have your data.... Then they go work for big data to help them backdoor the fuck out of every device bc guess what.... There's a better hacker than you doing it right now.
@jemmaj2919
@jemmaj2919 5 жыл бұрын
@@HerbaMachina unless you can prove that the hash is totally irreversible then nothing else matters. What algorithms do they use?
@dotto1481
@dotto1481 5 жыл бұрын
@@calebmatthews2026 "Big data" Holy fuck i'm wheezing
@The053199
@The053199 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. I cant imagine how people are gonna act when they hear about drivers licenses
@dominicguye8058
@dominicguye8058 5 жыл бұрын
I know right? #DriversLicenseNumberIdentityTheft
@MollyMcBooter
@MollyMcBooter 5 жыл бұрын
Kind of reminds of when I was a little kid, the school took us on a field trip to a bank, & they made it a game to put our hands in a scanner, made detailed prints of our hands..but then didnt let us take them home lol. I even asked the teacher why they did that & she said “Oh it was just for fun. They probably threw them out knowing most of you would just lose then anyways.” but I was upset because I wanted my handprint! A bank stole my handprint. I wonder why? 🤪
@luvex4401
@luvex4401 5 жыл бұрын
Why is everone doing ... nvm thats the same guy
@greylepoard
@greylepoard 5 жыл бұрын
Vox and The Verge have the same parent company (Vox Media) which is why their stuff seems kinda similar. Polygon is also one of those companies
@doodoodeedoo3958
@doodoodeedoo3958 5 жыл бұрын
Chizom Wali and nothing helpful has ever come out of these videos
@hydrochloricacid6731
@hydrochloricacid6731 5 жыл бұрын
@@actualfactual8737 We've got a nazi boys
@hydrochloricacid6731
@hydrochloricacid6731 5 жыл бұрын
@@actualfactual8737 I have no idea what you mean, but I think it's for the best that I don't understand what nazis say.
@actualfactual8737
@actualfactual8737 5 жыл бұрын
@@hydrochloricacid6731 self censoring yourself....from facts. ..because facts dont care about your feelings..and the idea, and the idea that you think im a nazi is your basic human right, wether your right or wrong....
@angelvanstark
@angelvanstark 5 жыл бұрын
I’m also concerned about the idea of genetically tailored advertising. For example, if a gene makes me more susceptible to a sugar addiction, that information could be extremely valuable to a soda company or candy company that is going to aggressively target anyone with that same gene sequence to get life long consumers. It’s both disturbing and concerning.
@msoda8516
@msoda8516 5 жыл бұрын
My mother was adopted and passed away when I was 18. Using DNA I was able to find her birth family so I have mixed feelings about dna databases. They can be wonderful but also have the ability for miss use
@ThePeacePlant
@ThePeacePlant 5 жыл бұрын
What DNA company did you go through. I would like to find my lost family
@ninjanerdstudent6937
@ninjanerdstudent6937 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, now I feel like getting a bunch of test kits, swabbing locker rooms, and submitting fake profiles just to fuck up the system.
@AdobadoFantastico
@AdobadoFantastico 5 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of that guy who got arrested for having a finger print that matched a crime scene in Syria. The problem isn't the tech, it's that people are lazy and will turn their brains off the second someone tells them "this system has an answer that's usually right". Even if it is clearly spitting out an error, they see themselves as no longer responsible for the consequence of the decision because something official and "correct" told them it's safe. "Go blame the guy that built the system", "not my problem", etc kind of attitudes. The other thing is that you're allowing them an option that's pre-approved, so it's implicitly discouraging them from going against it because they don't want to have to explain why they keep overriding the system's choices. At the end of the day, no matter what a person is doing, they're just trying to do their job and it's usually easier if you don't rock the boat/start a fuss all the time. So systems need to be designed with a lot of scenarios to force responsibility/accountability checks and that's very hard to do without painful bureaucracy.
@dilyn7262
@dilyn7262 5 жыл бұрын
It’s everyone’s fault individually and it’s only the fault of everyone as a whole simultaneously. The only way to change anything is for something significant to happen, but then you’re just uncovering new problems and new solutions for eternity. So why not just let bigots be bigots....
@deeb3272
@deeb3272 5 жыл бұрын
How to earn twice using the same content. Vox/Verge: Hold my milk
@AmanExplorerBoy
@AmanExplorerBoy 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@rustagaz
@rustagaz 5 жыл бұрын
Hold my Soylent™
@whatsappvideosandgifs4315
@whatsappvideosandgifs4315 5 жыл бұрын
Hold my DNA
@Whosaids0
@Whosaids0 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao!
@Chip-Chapley
@Chip-Chapley 5 жыл бұрын
wheres the risk? cops know who you are? whoopdeedoo.
@markovichglass
@markovichglass 5 жыл бұрын
False positives, planting of said dna, and then claiming to find it at a crime scene. It can be used for bad
@Chip-Chapley
@Chip-Chapley 5 жыл бұрын
@@markovichglass you watch to many cop dramas and soap operas.
@GMarieBehindTheMask
@GMarieBehindTheMask 4 жыл бұрын
I know right the Benifits outweigh that pettiness
@Katya_Lastochka
@Katya_Lastochka 9 ай бұрын
My sister gave my grandmother a DNA test. Now all our family's DNA is in the database. Privacy is the price of narcissism.
@cesruhf2605
@cesruhf2605 6 ай бұрын
privacy? Bro your full name is your username 😭
@thomasexeter97
@thomasexeter97 5 жыл бұрын
You guys never once mentioned a serious issue that could or would arise from having your personal DNA sequence stored online
@Ranstone
@Ranstone 5 жыл бұрын
One such issue would be being being denied a career, because your DNA shows you have a 20% chance of developing cancer later in life, and it's not width the company investing in a risk that high when other people have a 1% chance.
@dealloc
@dealloc 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ranstone It would be a violation against the Genetic Non-discrimination Act. It wouldn't change anything, really. If a company already discriminates, this is just another prawn. You probably wouldn't want to work at that company anyway. The chance of companies that doesn't currently discriminate, the chance of it using DNA to do it is very slim, in my opinion.
@averagealoneredditor
@averagealoneredditor 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, just sounds like conspiracy theory bullshit to me. Even the guy talking about it looks like a guy who has tinfoil lined walls and has a 34 camera hard-wired camera system on 6 CRTs and a battery backup on vintage surveillance hardware.
@fteambjj
@fteambjj 5 жыл бұрын
Getting caught easily when u do a crime.
@cindytepper8878
@cindytepper8878 5 жыл бұрын
So someone wrote on paper that you can't discriminate based on DNA, and a bunch of other people signed it and called it a "LAW". And we all know LAWS can't be broken, and no one breaks any law. And if someone breaks a LAW the authorities have a 100% success rate of solving the crime and getting a conviction and the victim is automatically made whole
@priscillamatheny
@priscillamatheny 5 жыл бұрын
The ad that played when I clicked on this video was for 23 and me 🤣
@darkshadowsx5949
@darkshadowsx5949 5 жыл бұрын
I dont see the problem. catching the right violent criminal is always a good thing. false positives are very rare. and your alibi should prove you innocent. especially if you were at work in a different state at the time.
@pjd0ioas
@pjd0ioas 5 жыл бұрын
But think about companies you are applying looking at your DNA profile and seeing that you are likely to get cancer at some point in your life. They might decide it's better for them to not hire you because of that. Go more dystopian-like and you get social classes based on how good your genes are. And if at some point we are able to clone people or make body parts out of DNA, incriminating someone would be child's play. People having the information about who you are biologically, might come bite you in the ass
@croe5357
@croe5357 5 жыл бұрын
@@pjd0ioas whoa dude, going full sci-fi there. If we're going down this stupid rabbit hole, here we go. Ewoks might bite you in the ass too. But I would love to live in a world where all the serial rapists and killers are caught and I have a pet Ewok
@ardensetiawan353
@ardensetiawan353 5 жыл бұрын
@@pjd0ioas humans have this little thing called conscience...
@mkuti-childress3625
@mkuti-childress3625 5 жыл бұрын
C hris Some rapists are actually using condoms now so they don’t leave DNA. People who murder multiple times have gotten better at being more careful, too. So in a lot of cases, especially when criminals are smart, it won’t even help. However, I’m down with the Ewoks. 😄
@kevininforks
@kevininforks 5 жыл бұрын
Clearly, you have never had to deal with the "justice" system
@f4ptr989
@f4ptr989 5 жыл бұрын
I had a DNA test , but it was medical and therefore not publicly available but protected medical data. Cost my insurance $4,000 Edit: Learned a lot, like I need higher doses of certain medications to be effective
@romeoa.6634
@romeoa.6634 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, that's interesting
@StephenAkins
@StephenAkins 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting... but not worried. I came to terms with the fact that privacy, as we know it, is becoming a thing of the past, a long time ago.
@maxtube0987
@maxtube0987 5 жыл бұрын
Look here people. This man speaks the truth.
@eadlynjune
@eadlynjune 5 жыл бұрын
Siyovaxsh En-sipad-zid-ana But we’re not making an argument about whether we’re voluntarily giving up our privacy? I mean I’m my eyes it’s the inevitable, we have to go learn to deal with it rather than fight it.
@trevorantram4833
@trevorantram4833 5 жыл бұрын
@Siyovaxsh En-sipad-zid-ana techcrunch.com/2014/02/14/how-the-world-butchered-benjamin-franklins-quote-on-liberty-vs-security/
@ilililil490
@ilililil490 5 жыл бұрын
Just be Amish with you entire family tree
@voidgirl7811
@voidgirl7811 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, with all the social media, cia/fbi, google, AI keeping ur info: possibly hackers, etc
@mrmonte51jm
@mrmonte51jm 5 жыл бұрын
And here my friends thought I was NUTS for thinking about Privacy Issues for not wanting to do these DNA things !!!
@erickscherzy1903
@erickscherzy1903 5 жыл бұрын
what do you have to hide? are you a thinking of killing someone?
@mrmonte51jm
@mrmonte51jm 5 жыл бұрын
This has NOTHING to do with being a criminal and EVERYTHING to do with my PRIVACY !! Evidently, you must have grown up with computers and know nothing of all the Privacy we have lost since they came along and since 9-11 with The Patriot Act that tracts EVERY SINGLE THING YOU DO ELECTRONICALLY !! Prior to all of this, the Gov and Police NEEDED Court Approval to monitor you...NOT ANYMORE !!
@erickscherzy1903
@erickscherzy1903 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrmonte51jm murderer
@GMarieBehindTheMask
@GMarieBehindTheMask 4 жыл бұрын
Erick Scherzy I know right
@riskromer9773
@riskromer9773 5 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story is don't give your real name for the test nor upload your DNA profile and don't kill anyone.
@saranghae1saranghae
@saranghae1saranghae 5 жыл бұрын
[Obligatory "iF yOU doN't Do AnYTHiNg wRoNG, wHAT Is tHEre tO woRrY AbOUT?" Statement]
@aaronlandry3934
@aaronlandry3934 5 жыл бұрын
Shufei Then do tell, what can they do with my DNA if I have not committed any crimes and don’t lie about my medical background?
@aaronlandry3934
@aaronlandry3934 5 жыл бұрын
sheryce eastland To plant evidence, you need an actual sample of someone’s DNA for the police to identify at the scene of the crime as their DNA, not a digital databases information on someone’s DNA. That is a non-argument here
@saranghae1saranghae
@saranghae1saranghae 5 жыл бұрын
@@aaronlandry3934 So...did NOTHING from the video register, or did you not watch it? Really, you don't even need the video to find well documented, and reliable information. However, because you are lazy, or insubordinate about your own information (unless you're feigning ignorance), I'll answer your question. What is being done with your DNA, and what could be done with it? 1) It's already being sold, and catalogued to sell products. 2) It's already being used to disqualify people for premium insurance policies based on pre-existing genetic dispositions because of their family ancestry even if they are perfectly healthy, and show no genetic dispositions. 3) It is already being used to implicate innocent people for crimes. DNA is pretty accurate, but there is a possibility of a false positive, something that's not uncommon. 4) I could lead to unprecedented corruption. Since human DNA is being sold already without the consent of the originators of said DNA, it could be used for experiments, multiplied, and disseminated for many purposes without compensation to the originators. For now, it is unknown whether or not this is already taking place. 5) If the trend of how DNA is already treated today continues, discrimination, and corporate corruption based on ancestry could continue to the point that people won't be able to apply for certain jobs, or loans, people could charge higher prices for products & services based on DNA information...the possibilities are as endless as the money to be made from said information. The way we're going, the Distopian stories like Black Mirror, and Gattica will be child's play in comparison to reality.
@aaronlandry3934
@aaronlandry3934 5 жыл бұрын
Sarang Saranghae Insurances and employers are not discriminating with DNA, they’re creating more effective medical background checks. If you have a family history of health problems and I’m the insurer here, I’m going to charge you more for the premium, because you’re automatically at a higher risk. Higher risk = higher cost. I would do likewise if I’m a business owner that’s in say manual labor and you have a family history of some sort heath issue that would cause a severe injury on the job. You do realize that there’s more to police work than just identifying DNA at the crime scene, right? The police still have to conduct interviews, gather other evidences, and if more evidence is found on you, you’ll still be tried and able to defend yourself and explain your alibi. Experiments on spit = unprecedented corruption? You’ll have to elaborate on that one
@aaronlandry3934
@aaronlandry3934 5 жыл бұрын
sheryce eastland That’s called tampering with evidence. It’s a felony, and is very likely to be tied with a charge of obstruction of justice and preventing the course of justice. As for them not always being correct, that’s why police gather more than just one kind of evidence. Due process exists for a reason. There’s the police interview, witnesses to call upon, the alibis, photographic evidence, forensic evidences, and plenty more.
@ReactionTherapyWithBiggClay
@ReactionTherapyWithBiggClay 5 жыл бұрын
Collect more data... The OWNER of “23 and me” dna Kit is SISTER with the Co-OWNER of KZfaq, which she is married to the OWNER of Google.. - now imagine sitting at the Thanksgiving table and discussing this between them.
@BoundMusic
@BoundMusic 5 жыл бұрын
holy fuck...mind blown!
@BoundMusic
@BoundMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Anne E. Wojcicki is an American entrepreneur and the co-founder and chief executive officer of the personal genomics company 23andMe. She is married to Sergey Brin, the co-founder of Google. Also just found out Rockstar is owned by Apple, Microsoft, Blackberry, Sony and Ericsson. I'm done
@canadiannavigator3346
@canadiannavigator3346 5 жыл бұрын
Reaction Therapy ... My worry is that the Global Elites start developing very specific biological weapons designed to attack very specific genetic makeup.
@AirNeat
@AirNeat 5 жыл бұрын
​@@canadiannavigator3346 That would require the bioweapon to do a gene sequence on every person it comes into contact with, which is completely irrational
@ErickIsBeowulf
@ErickIsBeowulf 5 жыл бұрын
@@AirNeat or is it? How do you know?
@ziggyballdust
@ziggyballdust 5 жыл бұрын
Brown guy : tell me about my history White guy: I know my history lolz
@freedomisthechoicesyoumake8594
@freedomisthechoicesyoumake8594 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO 😂 so true
@davidlacziko1516
@davidlacziko1516 5 жыл бұрын
I thought about testing my DNA, now I don't want to.
@user-no2vw8tm2s
@user-no2vw8tm2s 5 жыл бұрын
This search system seems like an overall good idea. The only problems are inaccuracy and abuse.
@sam08g16
@sam08g16 5 жыл бұрын
Just like prostitution
@LP-ui1uq
@LP-ui1uq 5 жыл бұрын
Those are pretty big problems though lmao
@user-no2vw8tm2s
@user-no2vw8tm2s 5 жыл бұрын
@@LP-ui1uq Well... that's the problem
@bialynia
@bialynia 5 жыл бұрын
Man, literally everything is a pretty good idea if you overlook the inaccuracy and abuse so that doesn't really mean anything.
@user-no2vw8tm2s
@user-no2vw8tm2s 5 жыл бұрын
@@bialynia Guess that means I just found out where all the suffering in the world comes from.
@charlesthechuck
@charlesthechuck 5 жыл бұрын
When you realize every hospital has your DNA already. Lol
@mikedub7516
@mikedub7516 5 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair...none of these companies have the right to give our information out...but they do anyway...but I see your point...
@bobrvrvrvrv
@bobrvrvrvrv 5 жыл бұрын
*tries to rationalize usage of 23&me”
@LazyEyeMan
@LazyEyeMan 5 жыл бұрын
I just wish I could yell through the screen "hey you guys arent important enough to anybody for your DNA to matter that much"
@deepseavalkyrie559
@deepseavalkyrie559 5 жыл бұрын
One of my friends was adopted, and he took one of those ancestry/dna tests and found his aunt who connected him with his birth mother.
@quietwyatt2873
@quietwyatt2873 5 жыл бұрын
Database, database, you're living in the database...
@amahlaka
@amahlaka 5 жыл бұрын
Quiet Wyatt wo oo It doesnt even matter if there is no hope
@TheAZElele
@TheAZElele 5 жыл бұрын
Arttu Mahlakaarto as the madness of the system grows
@dation0000
@dation0000 5 жыл бұрын
Anime song?
@amahlaka
@amahlaka 5 жыл бұрын
axon magnus opening of Log Horizon
@tomservo5007
@tomservo5007 5 жыл бұрын
you didn't even talk about who these companies are selling their data too?!?!?
@isabelozipek3407
@isabelozipek3407 5 жыл бұрын
Tom Servo government, FBI
@mkuti-childress3625
@mkuti-childress3625 5 жыл бұрын
How hard would it be, then, for insurance companies to get? I’m fine with getting violent criminals off the streets. It’s the unforeseen domino effect that can also hurt regular, law-abiding people that I am concerned about.
@tomservo5007
@tomservo5007 5 жыл бұрын
how fitting that yesterday I had multiple 'DNA service ads' because of DNA Day (is that really a thing now?) ...
@markg999
@markg999 5 жыл бұрын
@@mkuti-childress3625 Yep heard that angle and its plausible.
@psychedelicpython
@psychedelicpython 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t see doing a DNA test. I know who I am, I know the family members that I WANT to know, and I don’t want my personal genetic structure posted in a large (even huge) database for total strangers to see.
@torijayy
@torijayy 5 жыл бұрын
1970 - 80s: In the future, we can get the DNA of the Golden State Killer! 2018: Oh, we actually did it.
@luvnotvideos
@luvnotvideos 5 жыл бұрын
These concerns remind me of Gattaca. And while that was a science fiction story about overcoming a caste system based on DNA, in the real world there is the very real issue of insurance companies gearing up to use these profiles to dictate coverage (in the US anyway).
@Vbluevital
@Vbluevital 5 жыл бұрын
That's True
@luvnotvideos
@luvnotvideos 5 жыл бұрын
@ If laws were reliably enforced then there would be no reason for concern. However, it is naive to believe laws will protect us from corporate predation. There are always loopholes that insurance companies will take to bypass those laws - already happens with people who have pre-existing conditions that are forced to pay outlandish rates. It's not a leap to move into more specific conditional charging. Discrimination of this sort - within the law, but only in the most technical sense - happens everyday now. For instance: the company I work for started giving health insurance "discounts" to employees that keep their blood work at certain levels. It's all voluntary of course or the company would never be allowed access to test results. But while they may call it a discount, I call it a penalization for anyone that does not fit within their narrow definition of 'healthy'. Several years back there was a company that fired employees for not keeping a certain fitness level. How long before companies flat out refuse to hire someone based on a DNA flaw, but bypass the law by claiming the person was simply not qualified? There are dozens of ways to work within the law and still get away with immoral practices.
5 жыл бұрын
Luvnot Videos Google and others have big ass lawsuits because of this law you know lmao
@krrrruptidsoless
@krrrruptidsoless 5 жыл бұрын
That data get stored in a database with whoever sold you the test kit. Then Facebook buys them out and uploads all your information to the internet.
@razor191919
@razor191919 5 жыл бұрын
Stored on Amazon's cloud servers for everyone to see.
@NuYoukai
@NuYoukai 5 жыл бұрын
I think I'm more worried about my tuition for classes than if I'm accused of some crime.
@mkuti-childress3625
@mkuti-childress3625 5 жыл бұрын
Nu Youkai As you should be!
@Ken19700
@Ken19700 6 ай бұрын
I wouldn't worry about it. The internet has already squashed the concept of privacy.
@dhawthorne1634
@dhawthorne1634 5 жыл бұрын
I have cousins that have to pay ridiculous amounts for life insurance because their dad, grandfather and a mutual cousin died of cancer and their aunts, and yet another cousin all had cancer and recovered, plus a single relative had a DNA test that came back positive for Lynch syndrome. I'm adopted but because they see the family relation and last name, I have to fight tooth and nail, proving that I am not of the same financial risk to insurance companies.
@milkmanjpimps
@milkmanjpimps 5 жыл бұрын
Totally cool and normal health care system.
@bialynia
@bialynia 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. I'm actually happy I don't live there.
@clamdong1974
@clamdong1974 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't sharing your Dna be more beneficial than otherwise in that scenario?
@dhawthorne1634
@dhawthorne1634 5 жыл бұрын
@@clamdong1974 If you mean being a genetic relative, no. If you mean submitting a sample to be tested, maybe. I have no clue what they would find. Maybe my birth parents had a history of heart disease or something. I am also none too keen on having my DNA logged in a database somewhere. I don't even use the bio-metrics on phones or the work time clocks.
@ethank.6602
@ethank.6602 5 жыл бұрын
No you shouldnt... tell them youre adopted. I dont see the problem youre having. Just a little paperwork
@owo4470
@owo4470 5 жыл бұрын
Already knew abt this situation And I’m still curious on my ancestry :/
@at__xyz
@at__xyz 5 жыл бұрын
i wish i can sneeze lego blocks
@Iceflkn
@Iceflkn 5 жыл бұрын
So I could be, "findable".... This is a problem?
@CrazyLinguiniLegs
@CrazyLinguiniLegs 5 жыл бұрын
One of the problems is if insurance companies are able to determine that you have a genetic predisposition to a particular illness, they can legally refuse you coverage (or perhaps charge you higher premiums and deductibles) on that basis.
@Iceflkn
@Iceflkn 5 жыл бұрын
@@CrazyLinguiniLegs ah okay, that makes sense. This would be the perfect time for some laws to be created, protecting everyone.
@davidescristofaros2241
@davidescristofaros2241 4 жыл бұрын
@@CrazyLinguiniLegs But if you're not American and you get free healthcare you don't even have to worry about that right?
@dogmosatchmo
@dogmosatchmo 5 жыл бұрын
If you did do it, you would find out you were Connor McGregors younger, smaller, adopted at birth brother....
@isabelhuang_1
@isabelhuang_1 5 жыл бұрын
Someday some criminal will forge DNA without ever touching the person they’re framing
@kellplater4888
@kellplater4888 5 жыл бұрын
f Forecast wrong.
5 жыл бұрын
But they’ll never be a commonality. This is like advanced computer programming. The average joe can’t do that even though it’s such a big part of life now
5 жыл бұрын
borukamante cool. It wasn’t a huge part of most people’s everyday lives, and so is a flaccid comparison.
@BenDurham
@BenDurham 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome use of LEGOs haha
@leesteal4458
@leesteal4458 5 жыл бұрын
I would never, ever do a DNA test with one of these companies. People really don't think.
@NT-tn6oo
@NT-tn6oo 5 жыл бұрын
Vox AND The Verge putting up a video on DNA test at the same time??
@HahtaanDaetori
@HahtaanDaetori 5 жыл бұрын
It's a collaboration
@VergeScience
@VergeScience 5 жыл бұрын
@@k-mdn4905 We collaborated on these videos. Vox and The Verge are sister brands, both under Vox Media
@BothHands1
@BothHands1 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was the same video, and was wondering why they reuploaded lol
@dinil5566
@dinil5566 5 жыл бұрын
They are both owned by the same peeps
@paperbox819
@paperbox819 5 жыл бұрын
...And they stole the content from a smaller channel called 'The Atlantic' their youtube video is called "You Should Be Worried About Your DNA Privacy"
@PseudoEmpathy
@PseudoEmpathy 5 жыл бұрын
And then it all falls apart when people start gene editing.
@user255
@user255 5 жыл бұрын
Not really. Why would you change that much DNA in the germline? Predicting that your children will be criminals? And changing DNA of every cell of an adult is not that easy. So, at least that doesn't happen in near future.
@sickleslash6664
@sickleslash6664 5 жыл бұрын
@@user255 truth. Some people have that "humans shouldn't play God" sickness from Hollywood movies.
@QuantumPhyZ
@QuantumPhyZ 5 жыл бұрын
@@sickleslash6664 God doesn't exist so , that affirmation it self is false. If gene editing is a good option for the development of society and for our evolution then it will be used. CRISPR is already here and in the future it will only get better and stronger.
@QuantumPhyZ
@QuantumPhyZ 5 жыл бұрын
@Iceboat Like I said Science doesn't care about what you or I think. Is a process of self learning and the evolution of understanding of our surroundings. If gene editing is the best and most optimal solution for our society and future then it will be used. Evolution is a long and slow process, using tech to speed it up, would be a wise and smart decision. Considering the fact, AI, will be possible, we will sooner or later do it. If we stay behind, we will be lost and that will be the doom of our species. We are in a race against time of a cataclysmic event and our evolution is the only thing that goes against it, and we will defeat such problems as long we live and prosper to be better everyday.
@betterwayusa5092
@betterwayusa5092 5 жыл бұрын
@@QuantumPhyZ Sure ❌ Gene Drive LAWS Were Naught Doing The Fake Phoenix Rising From The Ashes Chit Again 🐮🔄
@AlexS-mf2kc
@AlexS-mf2kc 2 жыл бұрын
PRC test are all over the place now, the database is already nearly complete.
@alecturner8303
@alecturner8303 5 жыл бұрын
Since I've been in the military, I'm pretty sure the government already has my DNA... so... meh?
@adorablegodzilla5628
@adorablegodzilla5628 5 жыл бұрын
There was that guy whose DNA was at a crime scene because some of his hairs got on a medic’s clothing and that medic was called to the crime scene to check on a victim.
@vorpal22
@vorpal22 5 жыл бұрын
I have enough family as is. The last thing I need is to discover some third cousins I didn't previously know about :D.
@carboy101
@carboy101 5 жыл бұрын
Same. I have so many cousins that I don't need any third ones.
@ashleylala4293
@ashleylala4293 5 жыл бұрын
Are you Catholic or Muslim? 😂
@n.3316
@n.3316 5 жыл бұрын
Ashley Lala lmao the real questions 😂
@henrybloomfield3028
@henrybloomfield3028 5 жыл бұрын
I like how there is an add for ancestry dna on the recommended videos bar
@danlucian6047
@danlucian6047 5 жыл бұрын
What about our medical blood work? How do we know that there isn't already a huge governmental dna data base already?
@AshleyMadisonsRight
@AshleyMadisonsRight 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. If they want they can just walk up to you and literally get your DNA too. They could break into your house where they can get DNA samples galore.
@brookeb2227
@brookeb2227 5 жыл бұрын
It is illegal for a physician to share your medical information without your consent. If this were to happen and incriminate you, your lawyer would have the best day of his life. The evidence wouldn’t stand in court, and you would have a nice lawsuit against your doctor. As far as the other comment in this thread (too lazy to reply to both). They don’t need to break into your house. The straw you used at dinner? Once it leaves your table it’s free game. Anyone can take it and have your DNA from your saliva. Simple as that.
@danlucian6047
@danlucian6047 5 жыл бұрын
@@brookeb2227 Laws are broken every day at every level of society.
@klutz3955
@klutz3955 5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to do this but I remembered Facebook
@rodylermglez
@rodylermglez 5 жыл бұрын
One solution to the bio-discrimination problem: Universal state paid insurance. Also, I think that DNA "ancestry" companies should be paying me for accessing my genetic information, not the other way around.
@bialynia
@bialynia 5 жыл бұрын
True. But paradoxically, more people would think twice if that was the case.
@77Treasurehunter77
@77Treasurehunter77 5 жыл бұрын
What then stops the government from using the DNA to force certain people to pay more for a system that eventually will go bankrupt???????????..............moron!
@rodylermglez
@rodylermglez 5 жыл бұрын
@Natasel Yes. Why not? If we all pay fairly and proportionally to what we have, why not? It's called being a solidary decent human being.
@rodylermglez
@rodylermglez 5 жыл бұрын
@Natasel 🤦🏼‍♂️ Really constructive sarcasm there... Do you know what's a state? The Greek polis? Cicero's Republic? Anything?
@Dynamaik0220
@Dynamaik0220 5 жыл бұрын
I have to get my blood drawn 4 times a year and my DNA was already tested several times due to some genetic disorders, so I don't really think me sending my DNA to one of those ancestry companies is going to change much.
@jimacheson
@jimacheson 5 жыл бұрын
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