Leave cougars alone. They just want to have a few drinks and find a younger guy to take home.

You can go deeper with that theory with hunting. You can tack on that if they essentially legislate hunting out of the equation, that's just one more avenue to attack the 2nd. Even though it has nothing to do with hunting, that still provides them the cover to run agit prop like "you don't even hunt anymore!!!" No need for firearms (or certain firearms) little by little.

In Washington state they cancelled our spring bear hunting. The populations are exploding right now while elk and deer populations are dwindling. I’ve never seen such a poorly run state 🤦‍♂️

thank You Joe!! Im a retired cattle rancher from Az. I appreciate You having the courage to host this dialog

counting days until JRE is finally back on youtube baby

Rinella and Hanes together its Christmas!

I heard more common sense in the first 5-6 minutes of this podcast than I have in the last 24 hrs on KZfaq... 💯 Cam & Steve droppin' knowledge !

I'm an animal rights activist, currently inactive, but hunting and wildlife control falls under animal rights. Hunting is important in a lot of places for a whole number of reasons.

I will fight a mountain lion for each like.

It is strange to me as a Texan, hearing people talk about needing tags for Mountain Lions, in Texas they are classed as a Varmint no tags no season.

The control of minds and information is more powerful and more effective than any physical weapon in existence.

The ads are out of control on Spotify. Like seriously.

Just say “it’s coming right for us!”

Rinella is the best. I’d like to see him in the show more often.

Holy shit, cam and Steve I’ve needed this colab.

Cougars are so elusive and hard to find there’s almost no way to do an actual count on how many are even out there. There is no shortage of them, they’re just very good at not being seen.

I hate the "wolves kill livestock, poor ranchers" argument in Colorado because any livestock lost a wolf is being compensated at double market price.

Them Hazard boys at it again

steve rinellas voice sounds like if bert cleared his throat

"ITS COMIN' RIGHT FOR US!!"

This is the problem with everyone getting a say in laws. Most people don't know enough about complex topics to have a valuable input, they just go off of emotion.

My old neighbor in NorCal was feeding the mountain lions. Couple of times I heard a creepy screech thinking I was on Blair Witch project. Was told it was probably the mountain lions

The way he said “husband”. Hahaa😂

Mountain lions regulate their own population by themselves just fine, just like every other animal. Very territorial, one cat covers huge terrain. Not like they are densely populating any one given area.

I lived in California most of my life, and from 1965 mountain lions started destroying the deer herds in California and have gotten out of control. But if you listen to experts, they say that's not true. Well, let's go to Atascadero California and I will show you how out of control it is.

Hey Joe, tell your guests some states you do have to report outcome of your hunt season. Here in Oregon you have to report outcome of deer, elk, bear etc. and the unit hunted or you pay a fine the next season when u buy tag and license.

Go to pull off number 13 in Garden of the Gods, CO. Round the corner about 100 yards into the trail and listen closely. Hearing a cougar growl without being able to see it was by far the most belittling thing I have ever experienced.

We have cougars in the eastern Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Not the kind that are middle aged woman dating young men, but the actual big cat.

Joe get tucker on your podcast. We want to hear about his Russia trip.

Great podcast 👍, Greetings from Whitetail Deer 🦌 Country here in Wisconsin 🇺🇸👍

We’re having multiple mountain lion sightings a year now in interior Alaska, which I think coincides with fact that some deer species are moving farther north.

It was a magic podcast having these 2 legends sit down together. I know there was some friction between the 2, and I hope that is no more and we can expect some collabs.

Just waiting for the full episodes to be back on KZfaq

Why would one hunt a Mountain (or any) Lion... except for "lion-kiling-experience" or trophy? Are you guys saying you need to kill a lion to put food on table??

The thumbnail is pure comedy! Lmao all of their facial expressions are hilarious

Welcome back your podcast on Apple and KZfaq!

I live in a teeny little town in Colorado with nothing but blue skies, sagebrush, and mesa landscapes. Two months ago, I found pugmarks, lion prints, right outside my back door.

Full JRE podcasts are coming back to youtube!

In Germany they will have large hunts when there is an over population that is adversely affecting crops and the like. They have found a way to keep it in the middle most of the time. Mountain lions are my favorite animal, they are just so beautiful.

Wolves have been in Colorado for at least 15 years, I know because I have seen more than one. Wolves aren't over harvesting either... look what they did in Yellowstone. Wolves pushed they herd back to where they need to be and created a better balance to the system. Look up Aldo Leopold and what created the wilderness that we all enjoy

I know both sides of the argument pretty well. My grandfather killed over 3,000 wolves in Alaska as a part of trapping, guiding, and as a gun for hire with the USFWS on predator control. I worked for an outfitter for a minute and didn't like the industry at all. Trophy hunters exist, and I call them killers rather than hunters. They just want to kill shit for the bragging rights. And, they don't want to put in the time and energy to honestly hunt. At the end of the day there is a big difference between hunters and killers. The industry tends to market itself to the latter.

where im from we release a mountain lion every year or 2 into the mountains to keep the deer population down

Great podcast

February 9th article in the Capital Press about Washington State Fish and Wildlife, the Colville Tribe, and wolves. The tribe is sending 15 wolves to Colorado next year. Too bad our governor isn’t going with them. Steve, Joe, and Cam you guys are awesome! Don’t ever stop! Thank you.

you can love animals, appreciate and respect nature, and also hunt. you dont have to be one or the other

JRE coming back to KZfaq!

Finally…Cam & Steve

It's already illegal to hunt mountain lion in Tennessee and I think Florida👌

We are finally gonna get back timestamps to Joe Rogan episodes again.

I love how Joe can get professional hunters in, they teach him what they know and he's an expert. I cant do that. I dont have any connections with any good hunters. Hunting near me is almost impossible.

The “they want to be controlled” argument is getting real tired and boring.

It’s funny to me how much of a gatekeeper Joe is when it comes to bow hunting. As a life long bow hunter and hunting guide in New Mexico, Colorado, and Texas…we aren’t elitist like Joe is. Joe is the picture perfect example of someone who came into the hunting world late in life and now tries to inflate his own self worth as a hunter by acting as if only the best, most in shape, and disciplined people can do it. Anyone can learn to bow hunt. You don’t need a mantra and you’re not sub par if you use a whisker biscuit. If you ambush hunt, or hunt in a stand you’re not less of a hunter than some who does still/stalk hunting. You don’t have to hike 5 miles into the backcountry. You can hunt in your back 40 and it’s just as valid. It’s really funny to listen to Joe on this topic because he really isn’t as well versed as he thinks he is…he just repeats what he hears other people say. The guys a goofball. Everybody should learn to hunt…even if that means sitting in a blind with a feeder. As long as you’re ethical, safe, and careful about which animal you choose to take.

An acquaintance of mine has a son who is a taxidermist in Montana. To boost his business, his mother thought it would be a good idea if she shot a mountain lion for him to mount for his studio.. This is the part that I am against, they hire someone with dogs to find a mountain lion and tree the animal. They called her on the phone and she went to the general area where they located her and took her to where the mountain lion was in the tree and she shot it because she had a apparently a license to take a mountain lion. Hunting is one thing doing it like this is not my cup of tea.. I told her you must be real proud of yourself for doing this. No one in our circles of acquaintances or friends thought this was a great idea that she had.

Love, love, love Steve Rinnella such a bad ass.

I wonder if not posting full podcasts on KZfaq was in the new contract. I’m all for it.

Steve is a trophy hunter

Literally was hearing joe talk about gorrila vs lions and tigers when this popped up lol

The hubris of humanity that we can control the wild and not be disruptive

I'm not a hunter but the Rogan podcasts over the years have helped to open my eyes and educate me on hunting. It is one way to put food on the table. I am able to see hunting in a more balanced way. Previous to these podcasts I only heard from the one side.

I disagree with they all hate hunters, I have a lot of friends who are animal rights activists, they don’t hate hunting of deer, elk, pronghorn, sheep, moose and etc, they hate hunting of bears, mountain lion, coyote and wolves for some reason, but let’s be honest, there a lot of hunters who hate animal rights activist, it’s both sides. Yes I’m a big game hunter also.

Joe's rant is hilarious 😂. He has two serious experts on and he does all the talking 😅

Is this a podcast with Cam Hanes and Steve Rinella on the same podcast!?!?

There are statics on every thing. Just gotta know where to look.

If you want Joe to go berzerk, include bears.

cam and rinella together? ive been waiting for this for a long time. Is there a reason why they dont interact more, or was there a reason? It seems like they should be best buds lol

Up here in Quebec, we used to have mountain lion populations and even a brown bear population, but they were all wiped out (as far as we know) about 60 years ago. This was their natural eastern range, and it’s a shame they have been wiped out due to “they are bad and scary”. You need to be careful as to not extinct a population for the sake of some farmers. This isn’t the early 20th century, we can figure out new ways to figure out population balance.

"Nobody does that", Yes.. they do.. I live in Australia, and a friend of mine worked as a 'deckie' on a Super yacht which travelled a ludicrous distance for seemingly no purpose.. only for him to find out they'd brought back the taxidermy of an endangered species (which the owner had shot) from one country back to the owner's estate in Texas (US).. running costs were x6figures to do that journey.

That dude looks like Pauly shore in the thumbnail

Ego hunting is probably more accurate

Example read about the Lewis and Clark expedition to Oregon

I live in remote Powder River County with one side of the farm's fences the border of Custer National Forest. I loathe to be too specific in case some hunter sees this but regardless, I have a suspected lion den about ... ?5,000 yards from cabin? Perfect cave excavated out under debris in an ancient dump. Lots in area by tracks and rancher sightings; I'm new here. Just into private property but CNF only yards away leading to prime hunting habit in forested canyons beyond. Luckily this is a chunk that is a logistic nightmare to access, requiring miles of backtrack after a legal crossing w/o roads or trails. Unless they go through this land that touches a corner. Then it's a 15 minute hike. Last year I allowed 2 parties due to their being new, respectful and wide-eyed newbies. Damn if they didn't get their trophy elks within a HOUR. 6-12 big bulls still up there but no more permissions. Locked gate and sign this year so I don't risk allowing it; I can be a softie if I sense good people. Yammer aside, the lions have NEVER caused a problem despite loose cats and lots of various livestock. Leave them alone.

700 acres in Maine. Nobody is stopping me.

I was a supervisor/volunteer coordinator at a wildlife sanctuary and have been working with wildlife for over 10 years. None of these guys are wildlife experts, mountain lions are a keystone species. Many other species rely on them directly or indirectly to survive. Absolutely no need to hunt mountain lions, there’s tons of game animals to hunt. It’s a natural predation that occurs when mountain lions are hunting they’re not devastating deer populations.

Hi Joe, I'm from Germany and love to watch your podcasts. I imagine if you invite Billy Carson to you and discuss his research of Annunaki and the origins of humankind, based on recent discoveries. Hope you will see it. Have a good one

It was nice seeing Steve Rinella again. I'm still watching Meat Eater episodes. There great educational videos👍😁

PETA had massive protest in an area of my state many years ago that year they canceled the Fall deer hunting season the result was more dear died from starvation and malnutrition than if they were managed through hunting responsible hunting

I did a lion hunt in Nevada. It was a serious process I’d only do once. I went to Vegas afterwards and met an Uber driver from Cameroon. He had no idea he moved from lions to mountain lions and we had a good laugh about it

I've seen them walking up and down at night on the Arkansas, right here in the middle of Tulsa Oklahoma.

Nice debate, love it. BTW is Cam wearing a Rootbeer?

How about them thinking it's a good idea to introduce Grizzly bears in Northern Arizona animal population. I'd rather only have the Black Bears, especially when having one walk up on me and only being about 20 yards away from me. Scary shit

We live in a time of Karen’s! You can’t even fish w/o hassle.

Mounting Lions attacked a couple dogs recently in summit county Colorado. Mitigation is key! Sitting on the Polis just wanted credit for the reintroduction of wolves even though they came in naturally....

That name drop took me by surprise

I can understand to keep mountain lion population in check. I don't think mountain lions have any known predators except man. But they are beautiful animals and they do eat other animals to keep that population in check as well.

I'm very opposed to banning mountain lion hunting, but this is an astoundingly low IQ discussion, especially from Cam Hanes.

I learn so much on this channel! The Egypt theories are just amazing! I went down the Joe Rogan wormhole last night 😅

Trophy hunting is killing stuff you don’t eat. You do it for the pelt or mount. Most people are opposed to that, 70-75%. Look at east WA and OR, where they came in on their own. Friction is just as bad.

I live in Colorado and I hunt. My buddies and I are absolutely pissed about the wolves and the stupid predator hunting crap. They’re just trying to mess with the hunters, they do not want you getting your own food in any way.

I don't why you would want to kill a Mountain Lion, unless it has something to do with pecker size or lack of

Any species management should be decided by conservation agencies using science based population management strategies. It should NEVER be done by ballot measure.

My family and I went camping out at Turquoise Lake in Colorado a few years ago. Long story short, we had to leave around 2 in the morning. I’m ABSOLUTELY positive I seen a wolf coming down the mountain. He or she was so freaking beautiful. Absolutely massive dog I was so excited and freaked out at the same time I yelled out loud and woke up the wife and kids lol.

This is the kind of subject that needs to be debated. Not just have a one sided conversation.

California banned it now we have an estimated 7000 mt lions in the state.

This channel could be a 50k plus Channel one day no problem

Where I live people are told Mountain Lions aren’t around but they are. They’re just rare enough to where interactions between them and domesticated animals like cattle, goats and horses are a rare occurrence. People don’t actively hunt them, but sometimes an unwanted encounter does occur. I myself have only had three encounters with a lion and only one of those situations resulted in serious injury to a horse and an unfortunate incident that resulted in the lions deletion from the census

Unless it's a nuances to the community, an obviously it's being hostile, a mountain lion, and wolves are apex predators an are a vital role to the entire ecosystem of an area, and shouldn't be hunted, it's pretty much trophy hunting outside of those circumstances, if it's not hostile, especially a mountain lion or wolf it's just a big cat and dog, but have to respect the fact they're wild, feral, animals, an you can't be stupid and forget that fact, and taking away mountain lions, and wolves food and they eat elk will lead to an imbalance in the ecosystem, to the plant seeds in the elks droppins, and lead to more hostility of nature, due to basic necessity of life.

I had a wolf hybrid when I was in my mid 20s, she was abandoned by a crackhead and I took her as my dog. I was so stressed whenever she got out of my yard because something in the neighborhood usually died when that happened. Birds wouldn't land on the property because of her but she was one of the most loyal animals I've ever known. I miss her very much 😢

Full episode?

Great to see Rinella on the show again! Cam seems like a great guy, but not very interesting when Joe just has Cam on the show only. Steve is a great story-teller so his presence really adds a lot to the overall conversation. Entertaining show as a result!!

There's room for all of God's creatures right next to the mashed potatoes.