The Authenticity Debate: Amon Goeth's Portrayal in Schindler's List -

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@CrazyMagicHomelesGuy
@CrazyMagicHomelesGuy 11 ай бұрын
I mean the portrayal of the actor was so good a Holocaust survivor started shaking when she saw him in character. If they showed everything they'd cause lot of new trauma in people
@CRA5759
@CRA5759 11 ай бұрын
It was Helen Hirsch. The woman depicted as his “maid”.
@Dmooreslotreviews
@Dmooreslotreviews 11 ай бұрын
Yeah probably worse trauma than the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan.
@charakiga
@charakiga 11 ай бұрын
Yeah... so show it, this film is made to shock and show the horrors of the Holocaust.
@Antebios
@Antebios 11 ай бұрын
​@@charakigaShow what MAGAts want to bring back. 😢
@thomashogan9196
@thomashogan9196 11 ай бұрын
​@@AntebiosYou mean the people who wear black shirts, loot Asian markets and beat people in the streets? Oh wait, that's YOU, Fascist!
@jonathanwilliams1065
@jonathanwilliams1065 11 ай бұрын
There is only so much you can tastefully put in a movie
@Underworlddream
@Underworlddream 11 ай бұрын
I recalled a interview with a survivor of the Killing Field for the movie and when he told the director some of the stuff they did the director said something like 'We can't put some of that stuff in the movie because the audience world thinks it not real". So I understand what he saying, that you can make things historically accurate but if you are introducing it to a audience that doesn't know the subject then if it Too Out Their then people will start to think it exagrated. I recalled their being a few movies that had real event show but it was so outrageous that the audince thought it was a joke by the director.
@tombirmingham7033
@tombirmingham7033 10 ай бұрын
Montages flash like in snatch
@DrCruel
@DrCruel 10 ай бұрын
I think we got the general idea.
@chanceDdog2009
@chanceDdog2009 10 ай бұрын
What makes a person truly evil is having the capacity to do good, but choosing to be evil . The nazi. Would hug their friends, play with their kids, and pet their dogs. Then go to work and smash a baby's skull in to save a bullet.
@sonofizzy
@sonofizzy 10 ай бұрын
Really? Watch Django sometime.
@lizardking3770
@lizardking3770 11 ай бұрын
Even the SS thought he was nut, they had him sent to an asylum for awhile. The SS doctors said the man was a psychopath.
@anthonyhassett
@anthonyhassett 10 ай бұрын
Perfect for frontline infantry. I bet he came from a wealthy military background. The war was an inconvenience for him
@Engy_Wuck
@Engy_Wuck 10 ай бұрын
@@anthonyhassett yes to wealthy, not so much for military. According to Wikipedia his family were book publishers - including military history books.
@anthonyhassett
@anthonyhassett 10 ай бұрын
@@Engy_Wuck I never heard of a good soldier who didn't have a good background either from the dinner table or outdoor skills. But really the SS Camp Commandants job was a HR managers job rather than a boots on the ground job.
@michaelbujaki2462
@michaelbujaki2462 9 ай бұрын
You know someone is evil when even the Nazis are telling him to chill.
@dawsonbarrett8906
@dawsonbarrett8906 9 ай бұрын
Which asylum was it?
@valx7586
@valx7586 10 ай бұрын
Who's saying they made him seem like an overly evil nazi?? Amon Goth *WAS* an overly evil Nazi, man did awful awful things
@Sky_Shiniga
@Sky_Shiniga 10 ай бұрын
His daughter who was around 9 during the war lol
@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger
@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger 10 ай бұрын
@@Sky_Shinigaand? I was like 6 when the twin towers got hit if we are sharing random pointless information
@Sky_Shiniga
@Sky_Shiniga 10 ай бұрын
@@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger Yeah? But you going around now days defending Al Qaeda saying they aren’t that bad of people?
@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger
@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger 10 ай бұрын
@@Sky_Shiniga nigga read your comment again, you may as well be saying grass is green, soup is good food, or LBJ has a fat cock. You made a simple sentence with no context
@hell1942
@hell1942 9 ай бұрын
Lol
@johnl4933
@johnl4933 8 ай бұрын
One of Fiennes' best roles. He was truly terrifying in that film.
@Kiki-vz5tk
@Kiki-vz5tk 2 ай бұрын
I really don t know how he could play such a role. I would have been sick😢😢😢
@33cattt49
@33cattt49 2 ай бұрын
Working an honest days work really pissed them off to the point they made museums . Working nearly killed them !
@johnl4933
@johnl4933 2 ай бұрын
@@33cattt49 Explain, please? Who's "them"?
@33cattt49
@33cattt49 2 ай бұрын
@@johnl4933 the people in the labor camp , they will never forgive the Germans for making them work
@jmw939
@jmw939 11 ай бұрын
I think Spielberg did this because it was Schindler’s story that he was intent on portraying. Although Goeth was a major part of the film, it was not about him.
@anthonyhassett
@anthonyhassett 9 ай бұрын
Yes you need the character of Goethe to offset Schindlers character. You need balance. I never bought the idea that Schindler was a saint, he was just someone with amazing people skills and a vision of how the war was actually progressing.
@michalsoukup1021
@michalsoukup1021 7 ай бұрын
He was not, but he was a man who at the CRITICAL time made a right choice. If instead of Stanislav Petrov the guy who talked the soviet authorities down from launching nukes due to a computer glitch was a wife beating womanizing drunk, it still does not negate the "saved the world credit"
@jonthinks6238
@jonthinks6238 11 ай бұрын
It's not about the actors its about the story. The film was not about just the commandant.
@boerbeun
@boerbeun 11 ай бұрын
well... i have a different view on that. if a hollywood production wants to make a historical movie thats a portayel of an actual event: make it accurat. if you can not: staw away from that event and pick one that you can portray accurate since you dont have the moral right to butcher events like that. movie tip as proof: opening speech in the movie Patton. they censored Pattons words so it would be 'suitable' for people to hear to then go forward showing people getting killed and mangled in the movie. the speech can be found on youtube and the actual speech aswell. good comparison to get my point.
@spoopy9689
@spoopy9689 11 ай бұрын
​@@boerbeunfortunately amon goths character is portrayed accurately, they can't show everything.
@anthonyhassett
@anthonyhassett 9 ай бұрын
I dont think you can tell the story of Schindler without the character of Goeth to compare and contrast. Schindler on his own would just appear as a sex addict, bribe artist and oppertunist without Goeth to offset him. The film is all about contrast. In a time of need, war and famine look how much the jews lost and the Nazis took. It shows the moral battle that Schindler had to do business and yet not be a part of.
@Kokopilau77
@Kokopilau77 11 ай бұрын
From what I’ve read, Fiennes’ portrayal of Goth was pretty accurate. To the point that during filming, a holocaust survivor saw him on set on went into a panic attack thinking he was really there:
@sonofizzy
@sonofizzy 10 ай бұрын
Sad that the survivor should suffer more so long after the Holocaust occurred.
@thesteelecrusader7778
@thesteelecrusader7778 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t believe senile old Jewish people
@patrizio205
@patrizio205 10 ай бұрын
Oy vey, it's happening again!
@rc59191
@rc59191 10 ай бұрын
​@@patrizio205wow so edgy go back to watching that Europa the last battle garbage again while wearing your SS costume in your trailer home.
@patrizio205
@patrizio205 10 ай бұрын
@@rc59191 I see you are a man of culture.
@Apple_Teck
@Apple_Teck 10 ай бұрын
Spielberg decided not to put all the things in the movie because he felt the audience would not believe it.
@barneydenstad2148
@barneydenstad2148 9 ай бұрын
Perhaps not not believe, but simply, wouldnt stand all the horrors...
@cheryletaimalie6012
@cheryletaimalie6012 7 ай бұрын
Ralph Fiennies played him brilliantly I think he brought out the evil side of him so well such a powerful performance he should of got a award for best actor ❤
@kurtreese7408
@kurtreese7408 11 ай бұрын
Had he done so, the movie would’ve been consumed by Amon Geothe’s evil
@exstacc1886
@exstacc1886 10 ай бұрын
And instead it's consumed by hope in the face of evil, because good in the name of good, at risk of all own, in direct opposition to evil, will always shine brighter than evil for the sake of evil, no matter the magnitude of such evil.
@jamadir
@jamadir 10 ай бұрын
very poetic@@exstacc1886
@hasinashraf4423
@hasinashraf4423 9 ай бұрын
Such an intellectual reply
@luispereira5177
@luispereira5177 8 ай бұрын
Yep. Goeth and Oskar Dirlwanger and his division made of psycos, lots of officials from the SS denounced him to Himmler, to put him, because considered the guy to much cruel. Now image what the guy did, when eaven the SS officials considered you nuts, and cruel in what he did.
@raymondmanderville505
@raymondmanderville505 9 ай бұрын
He was so over the top evil that a true portrayal of him would made the character unbelievable .
@richard3536
@richard3536 11 ай бұрын
There was enough for the audience to get the message .
@Denozo88
@Denozo88 11 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@venkatarao1658
@venkatarao1658 10 ай бұрын
Yes...but...still the director should have shown more for a direct perception.
@carlosidelone8064
@carlosidelone8064 10 ай бұрын
@@venkatarao1658 It obviously didn't go with his idea of the movie. It's not easy to show true, unflinching horrors in an "entertainment".
@ac1646
@ac1646 9 ай бұрын
​@@venkatarao1658wasn't the ENTIRE film enough for you? 🙄
@venkatarao1658
@venkatarao1658 9 ай бұрын
@@ac1646 👍👍So sensible of you. 😊😊😊
@Jabberstax
@Jabberstax 8 ай бұрын
Ralph Fiennes absolutely nailed his performance. Schindler's List is one of the greatest movies ever made.
@shanebriggs1039
@shanebriggs1039 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree
@Fre3domAction
@Fre3domAction 11 ай бұрын
Ralph Fiennes was FANTASTIC in that role, a shame he didn't get an Academy award!
@anthonyhassett
@anthonyhassett 10 ай бұрын
I found him completely believable. The chilling part is the way Goethe plays off the responsibility of his actions, that it is the wars fault, otherwise he would have been a reasonable individual. No better than the child whose dog ate his homework story.
@johnpage7491
@johnpage7491 10 ай бұрын
Certainly on par with the Hannibal Lecture roles by Sir Anthony Hopkins.
@daphnethurlow5388
@daphnethurlow5388 10 ай бұрын
Indeed
@carlosidelone8064
@carlosidelone8064 10 ай бұрын
@@johnpage7491 But his role in a social movement did give him "plausible deniability", at least to himself.
@LarsonPetty
@LarsonPetty 10 ай бұрын
@@johnpage7491 I always thought that Val Kilmer got screwed over by the Academy after being stepped over for his take on Doc Holliday in Tombstone. Pretty much a given that it was fallout from him being kind of a d!ck to work with, but even assh0les are capable of greatness.
@casparhessler9464
@casparhessler9464 10 ай бұрын
They did it cause nobody would believe that someone could be so inhuman
@johnmorales7057
@johnmorales7057 9 ай бұрын
He was certified insane by several SS medical staff officials. He was also quick to anger and act out, and laughed as her performed such acts . He was the perfect embodiment of Horror.
@ac1646
@ac1646 9 ай бұрын
'sone ONE'. There were many, many, many😢
@meganwilliams7434
@meganwilliams7434 4 ай бұрын
@@johnmorales7057and evil
@quattordicimontenapoleone3113
@quattordicimontenapoleone3113 10 ай бұрын
They toned him down because they were concerned people wouldn't believe it and it would detract from the story.
@mcampbe41
@mcampbe41 11 ай бұрын
How can you show in a film the extent of this incredibly evil person? The movie would have been horrific.
@sonofizzy
@sonofizzy 10 ай бұрын
It could have been and has been done in movies about other large-scale atrocities.
@johnpage7491
@johnpage7491 10 ай бұрын
@@sonofizzyyour point? Are you saying you are disappointed every atrocity was not reenactment for your viewing?
@sonofizzy
@sonofizzy 10 ай бұрын
@johnpage7491 Did I say that I wanted every atrocity shown or how? Apparently, the only point that you comprehend is at the top of your head. And learn some English, if you can.
@carlosidelone8064
@carlosidelone8064 10 ай бұрын
Definitely would have been a downer and that's not what the film-makers wanted to portray.
@sonofizzy
@sonofizzy 10 ай бұрын
@carlosidelone8064 Maybe a bit of a downer, but could have been done without ruining the film. I any event, good day to all.
@Briguy1027
@Briguy1027 11 ай бұрын
I suppose they didn't show every last thing because it would have detracted from the overall story. Sometimes you have to leave something out because otherwise it overwhelms the plot.
@daphnethurlow5388
@daphnethurlow5388 10 ай бұрын
Because what he was known to do was Too Dreadful to show.
@barneydenstad2148
@barneydenstad2148 9 ай бұрын
yes, a variant of "killing your darlings" as every good writer or producent of semi-documentary - or documentary - must learn to do.
@thegreatmosquito1001
@thegreatmosquito1001 11 ай бұрын
It was out when I was 13. Watched it. Couldn’t sleep for two nights. Been scared to watch it again ever since. Such a strong movie.
@rosariomuntoni3381
@rosariomuntoni3381 5 ай бұрын
L'ho rivisto qualche giorno fa.. 😢
@barbthegreat586
@barbthegreat586 9 ай бұрын
Amon Goth had a daughter who after the war had a child with an African immigrant. As an adult and already a married woman with children, the daughter once saw a photo of her grandmother in a book in the local library and that's how she found out who her grandfather had been. She was so distressed that she had to call her husband to come to pick her up because she couldn't drive home herself. She later wrote a book My grandfather would have killed me (something like that).
@lawabernathy9256
@lawabernathy9256 10 ай бұрын
Watched a documentary about the movie being made and some of the survivors when they saw him had to leave and started having huge panic attacks and shit. Thats how hood they portrayed him in the film
@TOMMYDSOUZA2
@TOMMYDSOUZA2 10 ай бұрын
I can hear his excuse now ,” I was just doing my job”
@meganwilliams7434
@meganwilliams7434 4 ай бұрын
That is basically exactly what he said ‘’I was just following orders’’🙄
@paddymac5161
@paddymac5161 11 ай бұрын
People are never happy, you cant cram 3 years worth of evil into a 2 hour film.
@carlosidelone8064
@carlosidelone8064 10 ай бұрын
The Russian film "Come and See" was very graphic and stomach turning, but still well done.
@ac1646
@ac1646 9 ай бұрын
Five years
@Axelfl6161
@Axelfl6161 10 ай бұрын
Schindler,s list should be required viewing in all schools.I remember it in the cinema,you could have heard a pin drop at the end and everyone left silently.
@still-standingrunner810
@still-standingrunner810 11 ай бұрын
Ralph Fiennes (in character) terrified a holocaust Survivor so heavily that she didn't wanna be near him and that he (in character) reminded her of his "evil sexuality"
@MC-bo6kw
@MC-bo6kw 8 ай бұрын
Ralph Fiennes is one of the finest British actors ever.
@ShamileII
@ShamileII 10 ай бұрын
Ralph's portrayal was fantastic! This was one of the best films I've seen. It just sucks you in and knowing that this is history made it even better.
@metalman6708
@metalman6708 11 ай бұрын
When you're so evil that the directors couldn't show it on film because people wouldn't be able to believe it.
@carlosidelone8064
@carlosidelone8064 10 ай бұрын
Or it may make them desensitized to it, if it wasn't handled skillfully enough.
@kellyprice8246
@kellyprice8246 11 ай бұрын
Ralph lost out to Tommy Lee Jones in The Fugitive for best supporting actors at the Oscars. Absolutely laughable.
@roddyboethius1722
@roddyboethius1722 10 ай бұрын
Jones was a joke in that part. Ralph was chilling
@jameswhittingham8027
@jameswhittingham8027 11 ай бұрын
Has anybody watched Schindler’s List and thought Goethe’s character came across as too warm and cuddly?
@christianfreedom-seeker934
@christianfreedom-seeker934 10 ай бұрын
Nope! 😂😂😂
@anthonyhassett
@anthonyhassett 10 ай бұрын
Spielberg did have to have those light moments in tragedy. The film would have been unwatchable otherwise. Shakespeare did similar. The film is three hours long? They had to show some contrast so not everyone had the same war experience.
@jameswhittingham8027
@jameswhittingham8027 10 ай бұрын
@@anthonyhassett I found that it made the Nazis, especially Goethe, even more chilling and evil because either they were joking and making light of their atrocious acts or they were demonstrating how far from humanity they were straying that they couldn't see the evil in their acts.
@bogusmogus9551
@bogusmogus9551 10 ай бұрын
That's because Fiennes is so much more handsome than the bloated fat Goeth was in reality. I find Fiennes really 'cuddly'
@jameswhittingham8027
@jameswhittingham8027 10 ай бұрын
@@bogusmogus9551 He certainly brought a homely, cute cuddliness to Voldemort, I agree!
@WQuantrill
@WQuantrill 6 ай бұрын
At the end of the war, Amon Göth had actually been dismissed from the SS and was facing charges relating to stealing property and starving/mistreating prisoners. Imagine what an evil bastard he had to be for the SS to have wanted to punish him
@khabbad
@khabbad 5 ай бұрын
Yea they threw him in a mental asylum cause they found out he was nuts
@noahellis3672
@noahellis3672 11 ай бұрын
Ralph Fiennes portrayal of Amon Goeth and Liam Neeson's portrayal of Oskar Schindler seems to be one of the best portrayals of Good going up against Evil and though Evil was stronger due to the power Goeth was given as camp commandant Schindler was still able to save over a 1000 lives through his use of what influences he had as well as using his own personal fortune that he could have walked away with. One of the best movies ever made but one that left me with some sleepless nights thinking of what abject cruelty those people had to endure.
@KenMasters.
@KenMasters. 8 ай бұрын
I loved Ralph Fiennes portrayal of Göth! But Liam Neeson as Schindler, he looked and sounded too Irish for the role. Just like Michael Fassbender as Magneto.
@daphnethurlow5388
@daphnethurlow5388 10 ай бұрын
The portrayal of Goeth was a tour de force in acting. He should have been given the Oscar, oddly ( or not so) he was not..political reasons no doubt. It was a magnificent film..in the cinema I saw it in, nobody moved but some were crying.. We should NEVER FORGET how evil some humans can be..
@chadgodwin2530
@chadgodwin2530 10 ай бұрын
THERE WERE NO TEARS SHED FOR AMON GOETH!!
@josefschmeau8017
@josefschmeau8017 11 ай бұрын
I think Mr Spielberg had an odd dilemma few realize . This SOB was so evil personified, it would take another 4 hours of film just to scratch the barbarity level
@sonofizzy
@sonofizzy 11 ай бұрын
It could have been done in much less time than that, without too much blood and gore.
@ronaldsimpson263
@ronaldsimpson263 11 ай бұрын
I think they did a great job of showing his evil and not overdoing it.
@carlosidelone8064
@carlosidelone8064 10 ай бұрын
There is a painting of French soldiers in a firing squad opposite Spanish peasants in the Prado, Madrid, by Francisco Goya.. There is no gore, but the terror on the poor peasants faces really touched me emotionally. Often a touch of subtlety, can be more effective, than blatant destruction.
@mike245401
@mike245401 11 ай бұрын
This guy that played him so well, sorry I forget his name. That I actually hated him. I wouldn't even watch any new or old movies he was in. But this guy is a brilliant actor. I don't think anyone else could have play this monster as well as this brilliant actor did. I'm glad they chose him to play this monster.
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 10 ай бұрын
Ranulph Fiennes, you've missed out he's a great actor and been in lots of great films. He isn't his character.
@isaiahneilguitaristofficia549
@isaiahneilguitaristofficia549 10 ай бұрын
Ralph Finnes was also in “The English Patient”.. GREAT movie… It had TWO VHS cassettes 😂😂😂😂.
@Schutz_Staffel
@Schutz_Staffel 11 ай бұрын
There should be a movie just about him, they could name the movie Goeth & show his entire life since childhood till his death, never leave out single thing that he did in irl out of the movie.
@swiggityswoogity705
@swiggityswoogity705 11 ай бұрын
A majority of the film would most likely be his time as kommandant of krakow-plaszow concentration camp. Showing in great and all detail of what he did, most likely an M or R rated
@johnstuartsmith
@johnstuartsmith 10 ай бұрын
The audience would already know three things: 1) that some people are born with sadistic tendencies that get stronger over time, 2)that the position of concentration camp commander would attract the worst sadists, 3)and that power corrupts, that a concentration camp commander holds absolute power, and that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Knowing this would take the suspense out of the plot and make it easy to guess the ending.....
@sonofizzy
@sonofizzy 10 ай бұрын
You post nonsense.
@sonofizzy
@sonofizzy 10 ай бұрын
@@johnstuartsmith You apparently do not know how many people are ignorant about that side of human nature and the Holocaust. There are also plenty of Holocaust deniers and minimizers - some of whom are very organized and sophisticated- ready to spread and foster such denial and minimization. I know. I have fought these vermin on FB and youtuble.
@jamiemarr1155
@jamiemarr1155 11 ай бұрын
I think they portrayed what an evil monster he was
@sweynforkbeard8857
@sweynforkbeard8857 11 ай бұрын
View some documentary accounts. He was way worse than the movie character. How can you show two great Dane dogs ripping someone apart in a movie?
@chucknora4194
@chucknora4194 10 ай бұрын
Hindsight and second guessing on a fantastic movie that probably makes the top 100 movies of all time list. In my opinion He didn’t need to do more. Think about how you felt after that movie. What you wanted to do after that movie! It was so powerful.
@WallKenshiro
@WallKenshiro 10 ай бұрын
When someone was so depraved in their evil that in a movie decades later the character based on him has to be toned down significantly to seem realistic enough for audiences.
@goblinslayer7096
@goblinslayer7096 10 ай бұрын
Here’s something people need to know. The Nazis in movies are never as evil as the real thing.
@Just_A_Casual_Fan_Sorry
@Just_A_Casual_Fan_Sorry 11 ай бұрын
It would've been a slasher movie if all his atrocities were shown.
@prazcuray1388
@prazcuray1388 10 ай бұрын
Ralph Feinnes did a masterful job of displaying that inhumanity of that character, to depict all that evil would have detracted from the absolute brutality and inhumanity of it all.
@rifles_up2263
@rifles_up2263 6 ай бұрын
He probably thought if he showed all his atrocities people would think he was exaggerating how bad he really was
@ianreptil
@ianreptil 10 ай бұрын
I had a black and white ad for whiskey and thought "Oh a Shindlers List short" before realising and swiping to this video straight after lol.
@Captainkebbles1392
@Captainkebbles1392 11 ай бұрын
Um...they are all heavily implied.. but steven used his rule for JAWS for this too. "The audience is ok with being horrified, but not asked to be miserable. If they are unhappy with what you make them see, they'll leave or reject the rest of the movie" That stuck with me when writing and filming and tbh it has made my work a lot better
@normcheers6870
@normcheers6870 11 ай бұрын
I hope he burns in he'll for what he did to those poor prisoners.
@vivians9392
@vivians9392 10 ай бұрын
God will deal with him...eternally.
@charlietwotimes
@charlietwotimes 5 ай бұрын
Hell doesn't exist & nor does God. He's just dead. Very very dead.
@aggrogator4045
@aggrogator4045 10 ай бұрын
"I wasn't just following orders your honor, I made some of my own"
@schalke04lennard62
@schalke04lennard62 10 ай бұрын
As well, they did not show everything because it would make people think some of the things were added by the film crew to make him more cruel. But in fact, he was even more evil then shown in the film
@TheEuphoricsloth
@TheEuphoricsloth 10 ай бұрын
When you give true homicidal psychopaths or sociopaths power, you get these scenarios.
@charlietwotimes
@charlietwotimes 5 ай бұрын
Definitely. My Lai for example..
@postbox42008
@postbox42008 11 ай бұрын
Crazymagichomelessguy... Ralph Fiennes is an amazing artist, but i'm sure context and anticipation also contributed.
@Fre3domAction
@Fre3domAction 11 ай бұрын
Ralph is best choice for psychopathic scary villain! I mean he's done Goth, Voldemort and recently that crazy chef in the Menu. All of them so chilling and realistic!
@georgenambo2685
@georgenambo2685 8 ай бұрын
Even Spielberg out did himself with Ralph's performance of authentication of such a monster
@David-xg2yn
@David-xg2yn 11 ай бұрын
Mel Gibson was told to tone down his portrayal of the violence during the crucifixion of Jesus Christ in the movie The Passion of the of the Christ his reply was........ I did
@redwolflancer3051
@redwolflancer3051 8 ай бұрын
There is actually a picture of the real Amon on the porch with a rifle smoking a cigarette and shooting prisoners
@flopsweat
@flopsweat 11 ай бұрын
The SS actually put him in an asylum.... they were so disgusted by him
@sonofizzy
@sonofizzy 11 ай бұрын
Really? Give me your source or a link, please.
@bogusmogus9551
@bogusmogus9551 10 ай бұрын
What? they put Stealberg in an asylum? You surely don't mean Hollywood?
@flopsweat
@flopsweat 10 ай бұрын
@@sonofizzy WIKIPEDIA
@Eric-kn4yn
@Eric-kn4yn 10 ай бұрын
​@@sonofizzyits true ok
@Eric-kn4yn
@Eric-kn4yn 10 ай бұрын
​@@sonofizzygoeth stealing looting prisoners for personal profit
@sarahdlp524
@sarahdlp524 2 ай бұрын
Ralph Fiennes should have got the Oscar for this role.
@j0shmorillo435
@j0shmorillo435 9 ай бұрын
Btw one of the survivor, when she saw the actor who played Goth she started shaking because he reminded her of the real one
@Eroach2008
@Eroach2008 11 ай бұрын
And we casually throw around the term “Nazi” to describe people we don’t like today.
@bogusmogus9551
@bogusmogus9551 10 ай бұрын
I know, the NSDAP OR Nazis is a political party not the bunch of thugs it became. they weren't even Fascists, leave that to Mussolini and Franco and a few South American regimes. They became a Totalitarian state, like communism. Hell, They even tried to kill Hitler several times until the 'Night of the long knives'
@fmayer1507
@fmayer1507 10 ай бұрын
I agree. We need to be very careful not to cause the name of this evil to become so overused as to become meaningless. Nazis went to a level of evil unparralled against people not just in one nation but accross nearly all of Europe.
@oracle4722
@oracle4722 10 ай бұрын
Nah only people that act like one. Why would you be offended?
@YoutubeIsRetarded689
@YoutubeIsRetarded689 10 ай бұрын
@@oracle4722 You clearly have not experienced what Nazis actually did in real life. Disagreeing with you politically isn't Nazism.
@moonstryder1740
@moonstryder1740 10 ай бұрын
​@oracle4722 99.9% of the times its just people they disagree with. You have no idea what a nazi is do you?
@FriesischeKuh
@FriesischeKuh 11 ай бұрын
I couldn’t imagine his barbarity in real life if the portrayal of him in this movie is criticized as going easy on him 😢
@erocktherockjohnson5169
@erocktherockjohnson5169 10 ай бұрын
Just one of the bad things he did was force a boy to EAT HIS OWN SHIT and then murder him
@marklovelace297
@marklovelace297 10 ай бұрын
It was damn near perfect as sad as that statement is!
@shanebriggs1039
@shanebriggs1039 3 ай бұрын
One of the best performances ever in cinema history...thankyou Mr Fiennes!!
@gregtrent3335
@gregtrent3335 10 ай бұрын
Did Amon Goethe receive a pension and qualified immunity?
@WolfMoon74
@WolfMoon74 10 ай бұрын
no, they sent him to a mental hospital then extradited him o Poland and he was executed by hanging, too good for him really !
@anthonyhassett
@anthonyhassett 10 ай бұрын
No he never made it to Nuremberg, he was hung in the prison camp
@charlietwotimes
@charlietwotimes 5 ай бұрын
Russians hanged him.
@bryangriffin3139
@bryangriffin3139 11 ай бұрын
Should have portrayed him for who he was you should always betray people true even if it's insane what they did just so people can understand there's horrible horrible people in the world
@azbeaux
@azbeaux 9 ай бұрын
I was unable to watch that film fully. I couldn’t separate the story from knowing it happened in reality. It was too heartbreaking and horrifying.
@RalphFiennes-jr5ch
@RalphFiennes-jr5ch 4 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤
@maxrostedt9047
@maxrostedt9047 10 ай бұрын
Portraying this monster went very well. One can just imagine how horrible it really was.
@thomashogan9196
@thomashogan9196 11 ай бұрын
Like in Saving Private Ryan, the director chose to show enough horror to get the message across without turning the movie into a "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" remake. The point was that whether you are talking about Hitler's SS or Mao's Red Guard (who murdered more people than the SS) they are human beings with the same day to day problems everyone else has. They have simply been radicalized to believe that certain groups of people don't deserve to live. Much like Antifa and BLM believe looting Asian Markets and assassinating police is OK in the name of their holy cause.
@ericb2501
@ericb2501 11 ай бұрын
Are you really keeping score?? WTF!! How the F do you know how many people "Mao's red guards" killed??? The Nazis kept detailed records, FFS.
@nextworld9176
@nextworld9176 10 ай бұрын
You really screwed up that last sentence, Thomas. Not a single law enforcement officer has been killed by BLM. Their "cause" is to stop police killing unarmed black men for little or no reason, which is a worthy cause.
@huntingdemons9039
@huntingdemons9039 11 ай бұрын
Who cares? Not me
@steelydanfan321
@steelydanfan321 11 ай бұрын
Youre patetic
@LaLaSadiistiic
@LaLaSadiistiic 11 ай бұрын
Did he maniacally laugh too while lightning struck in the background?
@pioter6992
@pioter6992 10 ай бұрын
Well according to my grandmother who was in Płaszow there were many instances where he stood on the balcony of the villa spread out his arms and laughed like a maniac so probably there was a scene like that
@gordianknot6867
@gordianknot6867 10 ай бұрын
When he has the chance to redeem himself we root for him only for him to confirm our suspicions that he really is just evil and incapable of controlling himself.
@fuxihutterer8088
@fuxihutterer8088 9 ай бұрын
history is written by the victors
@eg-cv3bz
@eg-cv3bz 9 ай бұрын
Based
@AndrewPoulos-sj8fy
@AndrewPoulos-sj8fy 11 ай бұрын
When your in charge of an extermination camp,how can you be anything but a monster?
@roddyboethius1722
@roddyboethius1722 10 ай бұрын
He enjoyed it
@smoothsailor-j6n
@smoothsailor-j6n 11 ай бұрын
He was a monster.
@panzerjamnik4540
@panzerjamnik4540 11 ай бұрын
There is no greater monster than man.
@billortloff4215
@billortloff4215 11 ай бұрын
​@panzerjamnik4540, Especially men backed by governments.
@edyg7586
@edyg7586 9 ай бұрын
Best war movie EVER with great actors.
@OroborusFMA
@OroborusFMA 10 ай бұрын
Some of the stuff he did was so unbelievably monstrous you'd lose people depicting it all. They'd either walk out or think you were messing with them with some over-the-top Tarantino-like farce.
@CrimsonAlchemist
@CrimsonAlchemist 11 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: US officers not just gave orders randomly shoot at Vietnamese civilians during the Vietnam war without any remorse according to British press and European witnesses during the Vietnam war
@russelldrew
@russelldrew 10 ай бұрын
One of the most perfectly made movies in history.
@sampyannotti
@sampyannotti 8 ай бұрын
I read a comment about how Ralph Fiennes might've brought a sophistication and aura to Goeth that was never really there. That he never really struggled with his cruelty or had second thoughts, as depicted in the film; but was simply a malignant soul, whose penchant for cruelty was amplified by how much unchecked power he was given. Still a once in a lifetime performance, but with a touch of an over embellishment. Regardless, RF's ability to deliver monologues and act with facial expressions alone is unparalleled.
@annedejong1040
@annedejong1040 11 ай бұрын
He was actively critised, for whatever their reason (I am afraid it was just out of practical reasons), by his superiors, not to use his dogs on prisoners
@sonofizzy
@sonofizzy 10 ай бұрын
Horsefluff. Source, please.
@annedejong1040
@annedejong1040 6 ай бұрын
​@@sonofizzydunno, but I just read was arrested in September 1944 for corruptive and overly brutal behaviour (Plastov was a labour camp, not an extermination camp). If something however hypocrite was possible..
@sonofizzy
@sonofizzy 6 ай бұрын
@annedejong1040 The basis of his criticism and arrest was not brutality, but corruption. The SS were routinely cruel. You might want to look up Dr. Mengele, for example, of one truly sadistic b*stard.
@sonofizzy
@sonofizzy 6 ай бұрын
@annedejong1040 The bone that the SS had to pick with him was over corruption, not cruelty. The SS were more than pleased to be cruel to Jews. One of the worst was Dr. Mengele.
@scronx
@scronx 11 ай бұрын
Authenticity in Holocaustianity? You've got a great sense of humor.
@Hustler1856
@Hustler1856 10 ай бұрын
Mr. Fiennes did a wonderful job bringing this man’s evil to the audience
@OldIronFury1945
@OldIronFury1945 8 ай бұрын
to the people saying they made him overly evil, they had to tone his character down for the film. Hell, he was so bad that even the SS though he was overly crazy and vicious.
@krakrtreacysr907
@krakrtreacysr907 11 ай бұрын
This was a fictitious story
@Johan_Liebert___
@Johan_Liebert___ 11 ай бұрын
You don’t know what you are talking about lol. Amon Goeth was real and so was Schindler.
@krakrtreacysr907
@krakrtreacysr907 11 ай бұрын
@@Johan_Liebert___the people you mention are real. the fukn story is fiction. Which means its not true..... You don't have to believe me dpst look it up .... FICTION... IT WON A BEST SELLER FOR F I C T I O N!!!!!!!! I'm sure it's not the only misnomer you have about what happened over there
@rvx5392
@rvx5392 10 ай бұрын
​@@krakrtreacysr907 because It's a movie with a plot, not a documentary dumbass. For example, most dialogues between characters are OBVIOUSLY fictional since it is clearly impossible to know every detail from events 80 years ago. Go ahead and show me a historical movie which has 0 fictional elements. good luck with that
@libertynotdemocracy9142
@libertynotdemocracy9142 11 ай бұрын
blah blah blah
@StevenHufschmidt
@StevenHufschmidt 6 ай бұрын
One of the greatest movies ever made. Its a must see.
@KenMasters.
@KenMasters. Ай бұрын
Spielberg tried to avoid an NC-17 rating.
@Ghastly_Grinner
@Ghastly_Grinner 11 ай бұрын
Couldn't care less
@averagecommunisthater
@averagecommunisthater 11 ай бұрын
Bruh this is typical hollywood bs
@donaldshotts4429
@donaldshotts4429 11 ай бұрын
Sure it never happened right?
@averagecommunisthater
@averagecommunisthater 11 ай бұрын
@@donaldshotts4429 Yes, I was there myself. Its partially my fault since I wanted food that is more nutritious and healthier since modern food standards are full of chemicals. After I traveled there I passed on the side of the building since there was no barbwire and I took and eat all the food so I could build more muscle, some of the jews that where swimming saw me and alerted the guards and I left off running. There where many building ruined because of air raid though.
@donaldshotts4429
@donaldshotts4429 11 ай бұрын
@@averagecommunisthater Swimming? At the luxurious Auschwitz 5 star hotel
@averagecommunisthater
@averagecommunisthater 11 ай бұрын
@@donaldshotts4429 Nah, normal pools. Not luxurious but they also had football teams and played together with guards.
@rvx5392
@rvx5392 10 ай бұрын
This comment made me join the communist party
@David-th2ug
@David-th2ug 10 ай бұрын
A superb film. Nothing more to say about it
@adamfaturrachman8957
@adamfaturrachman8957 9 ай бұрын
I once read Spielberg chose not to show all of Amon's cruelty since he think the audience will think it's overly exagerated even tho it will be the truth
@crackersmom2679
@crackersmom2679 8 ай бұрын
People would have walked out. He was horrific, inhumane, demented, the list (no pun intended) of his atrocities goes on and on. Evil.
@synergy8879
@synergy8879 2 ай бұрын
you know it’s bad when even the ss thought him as a psycho 😂
@sallymjmj750
@sallymjmj750 Ай бұрын
The actress in the film who was a former prisoner of Goeth in the Holocaust, was terrified, shaking, and crying when she met the actor who plays him, because his performance was so true to life.
@BBountyHunter
@BBountyHunter 6 ай бұрын
Probably because people would think that Spielberg exaggerated. The truth is so horrific that it’s almost impossible to believe.
@rubentammy.esquivel5656
@rubentammy.esquivel5656 2 ай бұрын
The sad part is his daughter is a victim As well And is trying to Make amends For what her father's done She is not like her father .
@jamesklekowski1824
@jamesklekowski1824 3 ай бұрын
Rewriting history... typical Hollywood.
@potatopotata-lw1gf
@potatopotata-lw1gf 3 ай бұрын
I just watched it. This film is already the stuff of nightmares that would literally traumatize people.
@amandaparenteau9288
@amandaparenteau9288 3 ай бұрын
I’ve heard more than once that they did this because if they portrayed him as he really was, no one would believe it and the movie would lose credibility. He was just so evil.
@Coastfog
@Coastfog 10 ай бұрын
He was much worse than portrayed in the movie, but he still was portrayed plenty evil enough. What a shame he's dead, people like him deserve worse.
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