too pessimistic

Loved the animated parts.

The boys is woke trash

An absolutely incredible season that had a very lackluster ending. The Ryan stuff felt incredibly rushed, and the Soldier Boy Darth Vader twist didn't have any real payoff tbh. Such a shame because everything before the finale was gonna make me say season 3 is the best season yet, but now I really don't think I can say that.

Who cares about that garbage? When are you going to do a video about Moonknight?

maybe that's why soldier boy hated homelander, cause he saw himself in him, which is why he acted like his dad towards HL.

I think that line was very much self aware. Soldier Boy views himself as a disappointment too.

that scene is so sad imo

@@projekttaku1 Would you prefer him saying opposite of disappointment then? It seems like there isnt more room to move if we go by that route.

@@bigkinggorilla8095 Exactly.

I was very much bothered at the fact that the Boys didn'y make one Soulja Boy joke the ENTIRE SEASON like man the writers missed out on this

Glad I wasn't the only one to immediately think of this when I see Soldier Boy

@@uchihabomber1296 Too easy and outdated, I guess.

@@g-rated3514 All I wanted to hear one them say was like “Soldier Boy Tell Em” it would’ve been beautiful

YOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUU

i knew the opposite would happen

Maybe not the opposite but a lot of people were sure Soldier Boy would be too stubborn to join Homelander. Can't have two Apex predators in the same field after all.

@@Bluejay-jg6hz I don't think that's what happened, he seemed pretty fucked up by the prospect of killing his own son. I think he was alright killing him because he was such a disappointment, but only actually did so as a part of his deal with Butcher.

Subverting expectations doesn't always work. Just ask D&D. If they keep it up I don't think this show will end well.

@@Ready-ForTheEnd season 8 of game thrones

And clearly tore him up to say but he understood the truth. Homelander was beyond saving. His entire personality was on a bad foundation. Soldier Boy was at least emotionally stable at the very least by the time of season 3. Homelander was a powder keg who was liable to go off on anybody. Soldier Boy did have the literal Nuke power but that was incidental. With Homelander, his risk of going Nuclear was entirely intentional and far more thorough. Homelander wouldn't stop till you were dead.

@@Kyle-2020 That, "I know" from Soldier Boy is far different. Soldier boy says to Homelander, "You're a f*ckin dissapointment." Homelander: "But I'm you." Soldier Boy: "I know." Everything he hates about himself is Homelander. And he thinks the same thing about Ryan too. But if they were given enough time alone, I reckon they'll make a really good connection. Soldier Boy desperately wanting to be a father and Ryan in desperate need of a strong father figure. Not a man child who needs to be told he's great every 5 minutes or else he kills someone. Soldier Boy was like that with Payback. But with them now all dead, I think he'll come to realize that being a hero just isn't for him

I kind of wonder if this is a generational thing that might not come across the same way to everyone. The absolute worst thing my parents could ever say was that they were "disappointed" in me, and I think they only used it once or twice; I don't remember the circumstances, but I absolutely remember how much it hurt.

​@SnakeVenom 49 Imagine Soldier Boy coming back at the last season and he ends up taking in Ryan off the border, quitting the "hero" life

@@yeet1399 I hope Soldier Boy and Ryan both get off the path of a hero. I hope they look inside and ask themselves what they want. Who they want to be. This is where Soldier Boy will gain control over his chest blast and where he will come to terms with his PTSD and his shortcomings. This would also be where Ryan will open up to him. How he clinged onto Homelander because no one else wanted him. How he was always a burden after he accidentaly killed his mother

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I wanted soldier boi being fuck by HL jajaja

How was he in the comics?

@@sidneyshaw9205 ...a joke gay, coward, and expendable

@@sidneyshaw9205 Comic Soldier Boy isn’t like WWII old, is treated as a joke by Payback and isn’t their leader, and is coerced by Homelander to have sex with him every year during Herogasm in hopes to join the Seven. He is weak af gets killed by Butcher. The comics are… weird

Damn you hit it spot on man I loved Jensens performance! And I completely agree with you!!

Which Jensen Ackles though, the one in supernatural, or the one who went crazy after everyone made fun of his earrings? Havent seen the show

Can't agree more. But the best part is his jokes. That is pure comedy gold. Now Bill Cosby that's America's Dad. That's what I'm talking about. But boy does his punch have a kick. LoL

@@jonfreeman9682 😂😂😂😂 Man I was in tears when he said that

Jensen Ackles was awesome as Soilder Boy, I really hope he comes back in season 4!!

No you didn’t recognize that correctly. He wants a son to teach him and all of those other things simply because he thinks he can do a much better of a job than his father did. All of that implies loving his on and family and giving them a better life than sb father gave his family.

I don’t think this is an accurate take. He didn’t care about Homelander because despite being blood, Soldier Boy didn’t raise him so Homelander wasn’t his son. Just a psychopath created in a lab.

@@jakeman025 But he can't. Because he's unwilling to deal with his own trauma, instead embracing toxic masculine ideals and then using them against Homelander. Both Soldier Boy and Homelander are broken. Both of them refuse to admit their flaws and faults, and it makes it so that they are incapable of real love. Even with Ryan, Homelander loves him because he's potentially the only person who could empathize with him. Ryan is an attempt at validating his world view, not a person.

@@rykx0r That could all be very well true however that doesn’t change the fact about what he said and how he felt. He wanted his own family after having a tough life and relationship with his father specifically. Just in the little time he’s spent in the modern day watching TV and smoking weed he’s probably realized a lot of things and how it’s not the “old days” anymore. For example when he said “do men actually walk around like that?” To hughie about that commercial of a dad carrying his child in one of those back packs. I don’t think he was asking him that to just make fun of him he was asking because he was seriously intrigued because after that he talks about Cosby and how he wouldn’t be caught dead wearing that and how bad if a person and a man Cosby turned out to be. Then also with the weed scene where he said man I can’t believe this shit is legal I used to lock up so many assholes back in the day. Point is after seeing all this is when he makes the comments about doing it better than his father which implies with all of the changes in the modern age and being a supe he would do anything and everything to raise and teach his kids a better way now how embarrassing or ‘disappointing’ this would’ve been to his dad or to people back in his time. Even using a backup to carry your kid would be a “shortcut” in his dads eyes so seeing that it wasn’t just on TV for something and that dads actually use them I think he sees there’s hope in this modern age. Especially since people can consume cannabis legally for whatever mental or physical reason. Which also gives him hope because it helps tremendously with his PTSD which is another thing you see in the modern age where a lot of veterans that have never used cannabis that have PTSD are now trying it and for alot of them it’s been life changing. Also if he had physical pain it’s better than taking abunch of big pharma prescribed pills that have you addicted in a couple of weeks. Edit: I don’t think SB is broken at all even after everything he went through. I think he had a hard upbringing like a lot of young men during the time period. That’s why as soon as he was able he went into the service. Even after all the combat and torturing from the Russians I don’t believe he’s broken. Unless you consider having PTSD as being a broken person. Everything else I think he would be able to work on and like I said now that cannabis is legal he could always keep his PTSD episodes under control or at least not as severe. Homelander however I have no problem with you saying he’s broken based on everything we’ve seen from him. I think the main difference between the two is SB didn’t start out as a supe and had a ordinary but tough upbringing and just like Steve rogers he learned what it was like without powers before being blessed with them. However homelander is much closer to Ryan in the fact that he was born in a lab to be the most powerful person/weapon in the world and spent his entire upbringing around doctors and scientists. So yes they broke part of him.

@@rykx0r Ryan will come to see his senses next season.

It's the way they carry themselves. For Homelander it's like "I get over emotional and I lash out and kill you". With Soldier Boy it's like "I'm calm and I warned you, you overstepped me so I'll kill you." One is scary cause it's an outburst of violence and the other is scary because it's like premeditated violence.

@MR map being abusive is not just hitting a kid with a belt dude.

@MR map ?????

His son accepting him has seemed to mature him, much like the average human. A lot of regular humans out there running around doing crazy shit until they find a new meaning in life with their children. At the end of the show we see how much better of a father he can be than Butcher, who ended up putting Ryan in danger. Instead of immediate retaliation HL is first checking on Ryan, almost oblivious to what else is going on. Toward the end HL was ready to lay waste to everyone and everything but it was again Ryan who brought him back down saying that he just wanted to leave.

@MR map verbal and emotional abuse ✨exist✨

Never seen Supernatural

@@naromngin Even so, Jensen Ackles is really good at playing people who do questionable/scummy things while still managing to make them somewhat sympathetic.

@@naromngin Cool!

I’ve never seen super natural, but I love soldier boy as a character. He’s just written well, but I was always wondering what the people who have seen super natural thought of his performance.

@@justinriley

I agree on all aspects but he’s short (right?) so marvel would either make him some sassy brooding Hawkeye or give him the tall shoes/treatment they do other actors. But he is an incredible actor who would have IMO been much better than cris evans.

@@cherie..cherry Yeah, but to be fair, everyone looks short when standing next to Jared Padalecki.

I can see Jensen being a better hydra captain America or a us agent

@@cherie..cherry he is taller than chris evans. 6’1 is very tall

Fine indeed 👀

earlier*

Exactly. That's Homelander Achille heels. He always needs love but he is so brutal. He killed Stillwell in season 1 cause she was keeping secrets from him and true to character he killed Noir for the same. Both were his closest confidante and the closest thing he has to a family and he killed them both. He caused Storm Front to die after getting her involved with Ryan and betrayed Stan Edgar. Basically he destroyed all the family he knew and likely next season he will corrupt and destroy Ryan as well.

@@jonfreeman9682 I believe Ryan will see the errrors of his ways and he’ll go back to butcher

I love the fact when Stan got kicked out from Vought, he didn't have a meltdown or blame somebody else including his adoptive daughter who exposed him in public, he jusg took it like a champ. Even he still has balls to take back to Homelander. And this man never take a Compound V in his entire life! Same with Mallory, she still has balls to face the Supes like how she wanted to shoot Homelander last episode but Homelander heard her clicking noise to reach her gun and said: "Put that thing down on your hand, lady!" Or something

I might sound crazy but I almost feel like butcher could be added as the third comparison. He also is at the top of his respective food chain, leads a group, represses his feelings, has father issues, and often is physically violent to those around him even those who are his team mates. Yes he might be the most morally justifiable of the three but I think it would be worth noting. TLDR “Butcher is also like homelander and Soldier boy in many ways but also has some key differences”

I believe Soldier Boy changed during the 40 years of torture and experimentation... he was a walking tank and a bully.... so nobody could humble him. When he got humbled and learnt humility by the powerlessness he felt by not trying to escape... he drastically changed. Bring rejected by his team out of spite.... he became permanently depressed and decided to not give a shit about anything anymore... The Soldier Boy that survived all those 40 years of cruel experimentation and came out a changed man... is a Soldier Boy his father would be proud enough of to call his son. Which Soldier Boy probably realized when he saw Homelander's behaviour... he realized that he was the problem back then.

@@Ozzie_Mandias if he really chaged and was humbled, why did he burtallty attacked his former team "payback"?

@@tdub6542 Being humbled means your wiser… doesn’t mean your a hero. A villain can be humbled and abandon his inflated ego to become a more effective bad guy…

​@@tdub6542Why wouldnt he have revenge for 40 years of brutal torture ?

Antony Starr is great

That's what I thought as well.

Ryan does look like Soldier Boy while Homelander looks like neither of them.

Ryan looks just like Becca.

I really think they did a good job casting a kid who looks like Becca tho

Fun fact: If you remember Season One Finale, Ryan's actor was different than current Ryan. It's because Season One Ryan can't act and they have to replace him with a better kid. Also, if you noticed the actress who played Monique, MM's ex-wife is also get replaced. Maybe original actress wants to quit or something.

If Hayden Christensen wasn't casted as Anakin Skywalker, Jensen Ackles would've been a damn fine alternative. I would love to have Jensen play Hercules to face off against Hemsworth's Thor, but Hercules is already casted.

He's awesome as Soulja Boy and the dead pan delivery of the jokes are comedy gold. Now Bill Cosby that's America's Dad but boy does he know how to make a punch.

Man he would have been great as US Agent in Marvel

@@dingkong5034 Hayden sucks Jason Ackles was the better choice and has the build for the roll

@@firelord4662 imagine having this terrible opinion in 2022 LOL, Hayden IS Anakin Skywalker. He did amazing in the Obi wan show for the little screen time that he had. I love Jensen but he could never be Anakin.

@Sam Medina how would you say he loved Black Noir and Gun Powder?

I believe Soldier Boy changed during the 40 years of torture and experimentation... he was a walking tank and a bully.... so nobody could humble him. When he got humbled and learnt humility by the powerlessness he felt by not trying to escape... he drastically changed. Bring rejected by his team out of spite.... he became permanently depressed and decided to not give a shit about anything anymore... The Soldier Boy that survived all those 40 years of cruel experimentation and came out a changed man... is a Soldier Boy his father would be proud enough of to call his son. Which Soldier Boy probably realized when he saw Homelander's behaviour... he realized that he was the problem back then.

​@@Ozzie_Mandias I've never seen anyone come at it from that angle. Amazing analyzation!

@@Ozzie_Mandiasvalid point

​@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674he probably didn't. He loved people (arguably unlike homelander), but not everyone obviously

Right!!!! I was so mad they made me wait until halfway through episode 4 to see him!!!! I get why but still!

Reminds me of Jeffery Dean Morgan's Negan on The Walking Dead being like that

Why are you a villain?

He's so charming on screen

I wonder if you'd feel the same if it were a woman instead...

Makes me think poor Ryan was doomed to be parented with cruelty even if Butcher was his father figure given Butcher's dad was verbally abusive like how Butcher was toward Ryan.

100%! I also have to think the show’s not going to let Ryan take thd fall. The show just seems to want the characters to break away if possible

Homelander had no dad though. That's why he turned out the way he did. Soldier Boy is leagues above him. Hell, fathers being there to show their boys how to stand tall and not be brought down by society is what many boys lacked for decades.

@@readhistory2023 You sound like the type of person who ends up being the reason their kids are in therapy in adulthood

@@thibaldus3 Well kinda. The finale has Hughie realize he was wrong about his dad, as his seemingly passive masculine behavior was actually a matter of being there for Hughie. Showing love/support, despite how many Soldier Boy types would have mocked it in the open.

The moment they started to show Noir's inner world I knew he was gonna die. But boy did I cry at the animations

Honestly Noir’s death is the only issue I have with season 3. It’s so fucking anti climatic for the character development they gave him in the previous episode.

@@Ismael-kc3ry Sadly not everyone gets their character arc in real life. So yeah on an entertainment level I get the frustration. Story telling wise I get their decision.

Seriously one of the things I liked about the show from the start was the apparent deviation of the twist with noir being a homelander clone. They showcase his abilities that make it pretty clear that he's not as strong as homelander, actually make him an assassin and the third season just solidified the fact he wasn't

​@Ismael Taken in a vacuum that would be true, but in the larger scheme of things it shows a failure to put two snd two together on Noir's part. Noir failed to realize that Homelander IS Soldier Boy in all the ways that made Soldier Boy terrible. To ask Homelander to help him sealed his fate.

You raise an interesting point. Soldier Boy may never admit his own flaws, but he's deeply familiar with them. That's why he makes the decision that his own son can't be left on the loose, even though he spends most of the season getting revenge on his team for making the same decision about him.

Yeah, he can’t have his son going around embarrassing himself, thus giving SB a bad name by association

Soldier Boy sees everything he hates about himself in Homelander.

"I'm you" "*I know.* You're a fucking disappointment"

What's interesting about this is that we see the same situation when HL is talking to himself in the mirror. With the speech about cutting the human part of him out like a cancer. They really are similar.

Correct!

he got the bottom lip quiver to prove it

Except Soldier Boy thought his father was correct, and he in turn was correct about Homelander.

Vought didn’t score noir. Vought gave noir an opportunity to take down soldier boy. Noir took his opportunity to take down Soldier boy and well it went bad for him. But Noir did want to take soldier boy and was in compete agreement with Vought to do it.

@@alexanderguerrero347 who put Noir on the same team as Soldier Boy? Who made SB leader of the team? Who told Noir that he can't show his face? Just because Vought gave Noir a few crumbs doesn't change the fact that they've been screwing him over for years. Heck, even getting rid of SB was doing Vought a favor since Vought was going to get rid of SB anyway so they can bring in Homelander.

@@KingOfMadCows amen sir. After watching the whole season it feels very straightforward that Black Noir was just used and exploited by Vought (particularly in the person of Stan Edgar, and the PTSD cartoons to me also highlight that his personality was scarred from a long time and might not be fully developed; also his behaviour with HL gives me a "kid in a man's body" feeling). In my humble opinion I think they kind of wasted a very good opportunity to create a new front - in the episode's timeline: in the Nicaragua piece I was feeling as if Edgar and Noir had a very specific liaison that might come from "before" Vought, and when Noir went AWOL I was hoping he was going to rescue Stan Edgar to be told what to do, and I was hoping to see a new corner to the story developed for a Stan Edgar, with a presumably very lethal super hero under his direct command, to come back either for Vought control (in which case he can ally with the boys vs HL and you could hype the expectation of a BN vs HL confrontation) or for some form of revenge vs Victoria (which just happens to be the boys next target...). Unless they give him a regeneration superpower like Kimiko (which, honestly, a bit of a stale trope) and bring him back.. But honestly I am very let down by how they developed Noir. I was SO waiting to see him shine. But I guess the logic will be to stay true to the comics and everything and everyone is just broken.

That Logic goes against the Entire Premise of the IP. These are extremely flawed individuals and well whether most people want to Admit it or not. Humans tend to like it, it satisfies a primal aspect. Could certain character storylines or Arcs been better, yes. Are they delivering entertainment that is different than what's been blindly devoured with plots that are predictable in this space YES! Advancing the narrative of the Story in the manner they have is a Good thing. Plus they had to get rid of some of the team. It's a Natural progression.

Yeah. It feels like an AU "The Boys" where the setting and plot is very different, but the characters and themes are fundamentally the same. It's fun to watch.

To be fair, the original comic is so edgy and pessimistic that I don't think it would have the same mainstream appeal.

Yep, because sticking to the source is pointless anyway. Why tell a story you already know.

For me it's fine to stick closely to the source if it's already well written and recieved. The issue with "The Boys" comics is a lot of choices that were just done to shit on Superhero media over telling a compelling story.

@Fail Fort the source was aweful - the comic was fantastic and a huge seller but you know better

I think that was just instantaneous generational trama speaking to his son exactly as he was spoken to.

Legit, that line hits VERY hard, and it was beautifully acted by them

@@KoreaMojo I don't think so. He drew the parallel to himself, and homelander shares his worse tendencies.

@@BlazerFury01 He called Homelander a weak pussy starved for attention, while he at every opportunity emphasizes that he himself is not a pussy. He didn’t draw any parallels, he was just disappointed in Homelander

Exactly, SB looked like he was near tears when he said that

Deep down soldier boy just wanted his father to be proud of him. It's funny thought a few days ago I was having arguments with several people claiming SB was abused by his father. But really, being disappointed in your son is not abuse lol.

@@artcorbeau That depends on your definition of abuse. You can be abused without ever being touched, that's why people specify between physical and emotional abuse. In some cases, doing nothing is just as bad as doing the wrong thing since it shows you don't care enough to do the right thing. Soldier Boy's dad didn't even care to acknowledge him. Neglecting your child is definitely emotionally abusive.

@@gerbbabycare3771 yeah, I dont agree. People may consider "ignoring" or "demeaning" as abuse, but really we should stop considering everything as abuse. There might be some countries that consider those kind of things as abuse, other countries don't. It really is subjective.

@@artcorbeau Yeah, I definitely don't agree. "Everything" isn't considered abuse. If you say something entirely natural and someone blows that out of proportion, literally no one in their right mind will call it abuse. Abuse is causing intentional distress, whether it be physical, emotional, or mental. If someone's psychologically tormented in a relationship, that's still abuse of some kind. I'm not sure what you classify bullying as if it doesn't fit your definition of what abuse is

@@gerbbabycare3771 then for it to be abuse it has to be intentional right, what if the father just doesnt care enough about his son because of the set of values he was himself raised in such as "dont be a crybaby, be tough, fight your own fight, etc" so it translate with him being busy with his own thing (he's a billionaire business owner) and he just doesn't have time nor motivation to give his son SB some love because he pays people to do that and he epects his son to become a man without his help. Is that considered abuse just because SB wished his dad gave him more attention ? as for my definition, i'm using the definition of "cruel or violent act causing distress" so yeah i only count emotional abuse if it's cruelty such as yelling constantly at your child or trashtalking him (things i actually experienced in my own life)

Fuck that guy man im sure your doing well bro

Hey brother, not trying to stick my nose where it doesn’t belong, but that is something that you ought to consider talking in-depth about with him or a psychologist. Just saying, it’s not too healthy to hold onto grudges/resentments like that. It doesn’t define you and you don’t ever need to let that memory come back to put you down. I genuinely hope you’re doing well.

Sounds like he was right... Don't get that much drunk.

@@Fankas2000 you're a disappointment

@@Fankas2000 his father was drunk not him...

But he never really knew HL apart from what Butcher and Hughie told him. So how can you say he knew HL? He didn’t spend time with him.

@Justin if SLB doesn’t know who HL is, how can he have any thoughts about HL?

@@afiqazman6615 soldier boy met homelander and was able to instantly tell what he was like, likely because he saw HL as a reflection of the worst qualities in himself. Especially in the speech homelander gives SB before the final fight, SB was able to recognise the festering insecurity and desperate need for validation and approval within homelander, and it likely disgusted him.

@@FirstnameLastname-zq8oy that could be, but I still think it was a stretch. You don't really know a person until you spends time with them. Like for example I thought a pretty female co-worker would be stuck up, moody and doesn't like to talk based on my limited interaction with her. But over time knowing her she is fun, all smiles, cares, doesn't like to be put on pedestal, confiding, great listener and would talk about various topics.

@@afiqazman6615 Homelander in season 3 was a constant on screen presence. Unstable and dangerous, riling up the masses. SB probably saw it on the tv as well. Did research? Or more likely. He said it because SB was projecting

i think that ryan was still mad at him so idk if it would have mattered

??? Butcher said “not the kid” though. Doesnt matter though cuz butcher didnt know Ryan was even there so it wouldve always been too late to say to move ryan out there when homelander and soldier boy are confronting each other already.

bro i heard it in his voice, even his accent muting all the t's

my boy even talking with mirror like crazy

You should watch Supernatural seasons 1-5. He's pretty awesome as Dean!

Great point

is that why I identify with homelander? Although, I also do kinda identify more with a-train and black noir.

What a thoughtful insight I agree.

Yeah, it said a lot about masculinity. They all have a messed up idea of what masculinity should look like, and by the end Hughie learns from it.

Yeah the last scene literly reminded me of a trump rally

@@cbandit7715 You really need to leave Trump out of your head, he's living in there rent free.

I'm pretty sure that'd be because Homelander is who he is and it's ingrained in him. That's Not hard to Notice.

@@CourageGraceandKickintheAss just something i enjoyed seeing

I felt like his decision at the end to turn on soldier boy made sense because he was gonna kill homelander and Ryan and he couldn’t have that cus of the promise he made to Becca. Was it a dumb decision? In the long run yes because like soldier boy said he’s right fucking there and now you blink but made sense for his character. I was actually surprised soldier boy held up his end of the deal especially after that phone call he had with homelander. As horrible as he was, he was also a man of his word

@@jeremyroberts8822 The problem is that Soldier Boy's blast doesn't kill the strongest superheroes. Maeve survives a point-blank shot and falls 50 stories and survives; Kimiko got blasted and almost died because she fell on a metal post, but she's also way weaker than Homelander and Ryan. If Butcher had just let Soldier Boy blast Ryan and Homelander, they almost certainly would have survived and just would have lost their powers. They didn't even need to kill Ryan to solve the situation, but Butcher wasn't thinking rationally

@@jeremyroberts8822 nah soldier boys can just killed everyone with the blast, only vaporate their compound v

@@joni1405 Ryan’s just a kid and definitely not as strong as homelander or even Maeve. He couldn’t even move Maeve when she was holding homelander. His chances of surviving were much smaller

@@joni1405 I don't understand people who use this argument. Ryan hasn't shown that he is as strong as Homelander yet. You're really gonna risk a kids life on the bases that MAYBE he'll survive? Butcher saw what SB's blasts have done to several different supes and what it does to the environment around him. He saw it kill Crimson Countess and the Twins, as well as several other supes at Herogasm. He saw Kimiko get severally fucked up and she just barely survived and you want him to sacrifice some kid just because maybe he'll live? And to him its not even just some kid, its the last thing he has left of his wife, someone he promised to protect. And the point about how Maeve survived, that didn't happen yet, so its not even something he or anyone else could take into account at the time and even if he did Ryan is just a kid for one and two at this point Ryan has only shown a couple of abilities and none of them attest to him having super durability to survive really much of anything

Well, Homelander is straight-up nuts - raised with no human affection in a lab, and living with godlike powers. SB's just a fucked-up guy. You can get therapy for being fucked-up, but there isn't even a roadmap on how to fix what's wrong with Homelander.

@@Visplight take away his power's and beat the shit out of him. That's the only way

he did honour his part, but the one faction of the boys (MM, Starlight etc) thought hes to uncontrolable and unpredictable to bother teaming up with, and the other faction (butcher) stopped helping him when he saw how he treated ryan.

@@bootmanbill2362 so i was a bit confused by that him and hughie did have a convo earlier and I’m pretty sure billy knows too that the Russian music triggers him and he can’t control it (most of the time) I feel like that should be at least enough to say “hey maybe homelander is the bigger threat why can’t we roofie him after he kills homelander” idk it seemed strange to me but yeah billy I get

Nah he's iced for the rest of the show unless we get like 2-3 more seasons

@@germanwolf2953 I think Billy’s character wasn’t exactly thinking logically. Ryan is still beccas son and he wants to Fufill beccas wishes of protecting Ryan at all costs. So I think once he saw Ryan get hurt he wanted to protect him and threw everything else out the window

@@jhinwick5251 We likely will get 3 more seasons as the showrunner expressed a desire for 6 seasons. And I think he said SB might return before the end.

They are planning to kill Newman now sir, not Homelander

@@Whats.Next.Videos To be fair, un both of thos cases he didn't really give his all, especially against Queen.

While it seems they didn't progress the plot forward on the surface, they really did. Maybe not a ton for Homelander or Butcher but look at the rest of the Boys, Huey, Frenchie, MM, Kimiko and Annie. All of them progressed forward because of this conflict with Homelander and Soldier Boy. That progression is likely going to cause conflict with Butcher in the future as it already began to in this season. Butcher got a terminal diagnosis at the end of this season and with how psycho he's been getting, he's definitely going to amp that up. It may not be on the same path as the comics anymore but I have a feeling Butcher is going to kill one or several of the Boys if they try to stop him.

To answer the question about why Maeve doesn't just take more V is quite simple. She doesn't want to. Like Kimiko, she hated what it turned her into. She wanted to die because of the V. But now she's "dead", doesn't have V and can live a normal life with the person she loves. Kimiko only decided to take V again because she wanted to protect her family (ie Frenchie). Now with the argument about why Butcher doesn't take regular V. There are 2 possibilities. Most likely is that he of course hates Supes and would never want to permanently be like them. Secondly it would like just straight up kill him as he is an adult and it's meant for kids

I think Buther still had a standard that's why he wanted to take temp V instead of permanent one so he can kill supes without becoming one of them at the end and he didn't know the side effects yet.

idk what happened...there must've been a sudden rewrite or something towards the end.

@@erubin100 i dunno if that’s the case. It felt, to me, like they just didn’t allocate time for the third act that well. I like everything that happened but it felt like it needed one more episode in its third act to connect to where they wanted to end the season

Jensen was the worst part of the season, dragged down the quality of the show and the finale sucked, I agree with you there.

You guys are better than me. I quit watching after the first two episodes

@@dhnation4975 why?

What was so unpredictable about it? It was the most boring finale they could have come up with.

@@nishitd So, you knew from the start that Butcher would betray Solider Boy, and not the other way around?

@@Random_dud31 if butcher let SB hit Ryan with the laser then that would’ve been more unpredictable over “scorched erf…but not right now”

@@firstlast9846 you mean foreshadowing 😱

@@firstlast9846 what is foreshadowing then ?

Amen!!!!!!

Yeah, I liked Hughie's revelation too.

@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 It had issues. If the intention was to condemn what Hughie was doing before that, then it is completely wrong. If the intention was to show that there are more ways to show strength, then sure. It's good. The need to protect your loved ones and feeling useful (by actually being useful) isn't something that should be condemned. And given how Annies best feat of power was shoving SB slightly back, i think Hughie's desire to power up to protect her is more than valid.

lmao ✡️therapy✡️ doesn’t work

His suit is better captain american’t

Should I say he is a BOY

@@uvindukulathunga3860 good one

You're absolutely right, and I even had "five" in the script, not sure how I managed to screw that up.

@@captainmidnight No worries my guy - still a great vid!

Vogelbaum was Hollanders father figure, Stan Edgar was his daddy. He said so him self.

And both of them see him as a "fail product".

Remember He's not dead so there's Hope!

@@CourageGraceandKickintheAss I do hope he reappears. Ackles was really good in the role and I loved his bored take on the Cap style role while coming across as jaded and old fashioned. Honestly he embodied the Mark Millar The Ultimates version of Cap SO WELL.

He can say he regrets hurting people all he wants. His actions speak for themselves, and he had no problem putting people in harm's way again and again.

@@captainmidnight Uh, the only times we see him use his powers intentionally was against Crimson Countess and Homelander. The other times his powers went off was due to his PTSD which as we saw he is more than justified in having bad reactions given all the crap he experienced.

Ackles was just incredible in the role btw

@@europeansocialdemocrat this.

I have to agree here, in the end the fact that this whole season focus on how they need to "find a weapon to kill Homelander", a weapon that turned out to be Soldierboy, to have just butcher do a last second 360 for... no real good reason (like seriously, get your kid out of the way, deal with Homelander THEN deal with Soldierboy instead of fucking up the whole plan and leave Homelander alive) felt like that whole season was just pure filler.

@@europeansocialdemocrat homelander taking over vought had absolutely no consequences ryan corruption arc was sloppy and didn't have any reasons other than "butcher mean" neuman could have done those in the course of a season in which they are fighting against her directly Maeve surviving was dumb (and she is my favourite character lmao) and they keep death bating us, which is again taking away the feeling that anything has circumstances, no one in the main cast dies And now we have the question of if they death baited us AGAIN with noir, or if they just wasted one of the few interesting characters who still have development to go through Most characters aren't going anywhere since they have finished their arc all the way back in season 1 and they are just giving them new character traits for them to overcome Soldier boys team thing is exactly the type of thing which happens in anime filler arcs, new characters get introduced, new characters fight and stuff, new characters die and have no effects whatsoever I can go on and on about how sloppyly written the show is, I just like the social commentary, thats why I prob will watch the next season

@@EntelSidious_gamzeylmz A good example of how afraid they were to change anything is the fact that the whole "Soldierboy can remove compound V from heroes" isn't permanent. "Oh no I don't have my powers anymore? Welp better take more compound V then!". Kimiko didn't have an arc, she run a lap and came back at the start. And if Compound V is so easy to get, why isn't butcher taking some instead of the bootleg version that is slowly melting his brain and potentially preventing him from archiving his goal? And why is Maeve even leaving at the end of the season when she could just take more compound V and come back? Why didn't they just let her sacrifice be meaningful and let her die anyway?

More like this version of soldier boy is based on him. The comic version is very different than this

I feel like Chris Evans or Hugh Jackman could have played him well

@@sachemofboston3649 Evans would be interesting, but too on the nose. Jackman seems way too *soldier*. Jensen really sells the idea of the man out of time. He seems old school, but can also fit in the modern world.

@@sachemofboston3649 may be but my point is Jensen was very comfortable and effortless in playing this version of SB ,

Good actor but he probably knows his range is limited.

He spent 9mos a year in Canada filming Supernatural for 15 years. He would have done movies during his summer hiatus but he got married and had kids. Spending those 3 months off with his family became more important than doing movies in the summer. Now that his schedule has opened up, with SPN ending, he has taken a number of roles … voicing Batman, SB in The Boys and the new sherif in Big Skies. Not to mention one of his favorite roles that unfortunately he doesn’t think will be released due to the horrible tragic shooting incident on the set of Rust. I’m hoping to see him accept a role in the MCU in the current or a future Phase. He wants to be in a real western. He has done some directing on SPN and Walker and producing the new Winchesters series. I’d like to see him in a romcom too. He is really funny. Or horror maybe. He would be absolutely perfect in a modern telling of The Portrait of Dorian Grey….perfection on the outside and evil on the inside. He is currently my favorite actor! He can do anything and make it look effortless. As well as make even straight men swoon.

Yes he's very versatile, he's as good at drama as comedy funny, etc. He really came up with a different vocal style for Soldier Boy and body language. He was on Supernatural for 15 years, so he did not have much time for anything else preferring to spend the 3 month hiatuses with his growing family. He took a single season role on ABC's Big Sky as the new sheriff for next season, sounds like they'll have an interesting mystery coming up. It is just a season long role which probably means he already has plans for next year, hopefully including season 5 of The Boys. He also has 4 animated DC films coming up where he is the voice of Batman (already Batman in last year's The Long Halloween, and he was Red Hood in 2010's Under the Red Hood).

at least they didn't kill him off. he could still come back.

@@erubin100 I hope he’s in the thing Maeve was in

They supposedly had him signed up to like season 7 or something. I actually hope the show doesn't go that far since it'll just be stretching it like it honestly already kinda feels to be.

He'll be back, sooner than people think.

Two words: CHEST. LASER.

Lol ok. Hardly it of character, as Butcher always had a bit of humanity with the son. He may be deranged but he still cares for Becca. If one thing can dissuade you, I fear for your interactions with businesses, people, etc.

I don't fully agree with your analysis but I do agree with the sentiment.

@@Planag7 it would seem quite a lot of people agree with his sentiment on the final episode. Also, way to compare thoughts on a fictional show to real life interactions lmao.

Obviously your overgeneralising. Ryan saving his biological father is solids particuarly with his other scenes this season. Meave trying to kill homelander makes sense, as does her being and actual hero. The deep's Ex wife being exploiting the break up is pretty on character for her. The only slightly odd occurance is butcher attacking soldier boy to save ryan, although at that point he thought ryan actuallu still cared for him. THen again butcher is fuked in the brain at that point so his decision dont really need to make alot of sense.

entirely agree

Yea, the last episode has been confirmed canon

But we do have a tendency to want to explain away people's brutality, especially when random or grossly disproportionate. Something about thinking if we understand why then we can protect ourselves from becoming a victim. I think it could be either or it could be between what you said and the show depicted. Solider Boy isn't Homelander despite their similarities. He isn't even the same version of himself by the time we see him. We don't really see what pressures he felt or the dynamics of the team but we do see he's lash-out ready. He could have actually treated Noir like that because he was scapegoating more emotions onto him at that time. Also Noir is brain damaged after being half exploded. So I doubt it's as accurate a memory due to time and trama not allowing normal memory formation but I think he could have been just as eggshell careful as people are with Homelander.

Soldier Boy fans doing anything to excuse his shitty behavior cuz they think he’s hot:

@@fletchergillespie3242 I am not trying to excuse his behavoir. What i am saying the shitty behavoir we are aware of with him, Comes enteirly from the perspective of Noir and Words of Countess. Both of whom could be very unreliable sources as Noir has brain damage. AND both were on a team with a psychic who could screw with your head and even potentailly alter your memories.

@@naciabell7903 does the fact that SB entire team hate him count for nothing? no one hates anyone for no reason at all. as much as yal like soldier boy for whatever reason,. he too was a self righteous ego maniac. also soldier boy is a racist. Noir is African American to our knowledge so I read it as racist bullying. soldier boy killed Mother Milks family in cold blood.

@@larrymoulthery6828 His entire team was also afraid of him as we saw in Noir's flashbacks, yet as soon as they got the 'ok get rid of him' from Vought they were suddenly ready and willing to attack him head on. Pretty much out of nowhere. ANd were willing to slaughte an entire camp of hteir own allies htey were just freindly with nad messing around with a short while ago. So think about what that says about them. Was he a sexist and ego-manic? Yes. Of course he was. Everyone says he's Rcaist but the shwo provided absoutlly no evidence that he was. The only reasons anyone ever offers is that he was hostile to Noir, whose memories may not even be trsutworthy for reasons listed above AND cause there was a psychic on his team who could of alterred his memories. So we can't trsut those memories to prove he was racist. And he spoke of bil cosby in a very freidnly and nostalgic way as a old freind. Not even mentioning his race or anythign related to it. He never showcased any rasicm at all. He didn't like Noir. And Noir happend to be black. Itt's not that he disliked him beacuse he was black as he never refrenced Noir's race or used a racial slur.Where is the evidence it was racial bullying or had anything to do with his race? And MM's family death was an accident, not a delibrate targeting. Granted that's like saying Robin's death was an accident. But it's not like he malicously targeted them directly.

Yeah. CIA old lady gave the same account.