The Axe-FX III Has One MAJOR Problem (non metal player’s review)

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Rhett Shull

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The Axe-FX III has become one of my favorite pieces of gear over the last few years, but it has one huge flaw in its design that can overshadow everything else thats great about the unit. Heres my review of the Axe-FX III.
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@michaeltravis3562
@michaeltravis3562 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a trucker. Every one of your opening jams make excellent “driving music”. Wish I had about 3 straight hours of this.
@KleyDeJong
@KleyDeJong 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review Rhett. I have owned several Fractal products over the years, and currently have an FM3. One of my favorite things about Fractal is how they approach modeling more like a 'sandbox' than a mimic. As an tube amp designer and builder it is really neat to see how detailed they get. For example, you talked about bias excursion. That is a real thing that can happen in a tube amp. Take a Deluxe Reverb. The power tubes are biased in fixed bias. This means you set the cathode to ground and apply some negative voltage to the grid. Because the plate of the tube conducts all the high voltage, the electrons generated at the cathode flow past the grid to the plate in a predictable way depending on how the bias voltage is set. Excursion is like a journey. Sometimes if set the amp to a certain setting that really pushes the power section hard, and you play a low E chord that really taxes the power section on top of that - the bias will go on a bit of a journey instead of remaining static and stable. The coupling capacitor separating the power tube grid from the phase inverter will try to deal with this by 'clamping'. This clamping causes the bias voltage to raise. Perhaps from -35vdc at start to something crazy like -70vdc. This occurs for a short period of time and the jolt gets discharged by the grid resistor. In the end this is a small explanation and part of why a tube power section can be so dynamic. Think of the way a note blooms. You play that low E chord. The amp kind of struggles and freaks out for a brief moment, and then as it settles into the sustain it comes back to 'normal'. That's part of bias excursion. The way you play the guitar interacts with the bias of the power tubes (kind of). Some bias excursion can be really pleasant to play. Too much can generate blocking distortion which is not fun and sounds bad. What is really neat and exciting is that in the real world it would be very hard to go into your amp and manually tweak bias excursion like you can in a Fractal editor. Fractal is kind of giving you the ability to 'sandbox' things that really happen in a tube amp, and make it conform to reality or defy it in a potentially desirable way. There are dozens if not hundreds of ways you can do this. It would be really neat to take a famous guitar amp, sit down with an amp tech with lots of cool measuring devices, and tweak a fractal model of that amp to identically match it.
@nikonmikon8915
@nikonmikon8915 2 жыл бұрын
You are so spot on Kley. I use my fractal as a tube amp design tool and to explore how real life settings/changes affect models. Because the fractal uses realtime modeling of circuitry you can actually do this. Very cool product indeed.
@kendallivy8922
@kendallivy8922 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I love Fractal so much. The depth of tweaking sound is infinite and ‘real time’. Love it love it love it!
@carlos_castanaut
@carlos_castanaut 2 жыл бұрын
@nikonmikon I realy like your idea of using the fractal as a tube amp design tool. It would be nice if the fractal could give you the schematics of your end result to build the real deal. Then that alone would be worth the huge price of the fractal.
@nikonmikon8915
@nikonmikon8915 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlos_castanaut I think it would be incredible if they made a different version which allows designers to prototype builds. I'm not sure they will ever do this but it's an amazing tool
@carlos_castanaut
@carlos_castanaut 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikonmikon8915 I don't think they need to make a different model for that. They "only" have to add the option to translate the realtime modeling of the circuit, the dsp algorithm to an actual schematic. And I think they would only have to add some routines to the editor and not changing the HW. I would send them an email to see if this could be possible... They could have some new customers 😎
@cgarrity
@cgarrity 2 жыл бұрын
In over 35 years of playing guitar, the Axe FXIII is by far the best purchase I have ever made. My closet is full of boutique pedals and my amps are gone. Crazy. I go for similar tones as Rhett and the AXE FXIII is exceptional for what I do.
@PonderosaSoundStudio
@PonderosaSoundStudio 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree - best gear purchase I have ever made as well.
@goswo
@goswo 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Im an old die hard “pedal and real tube amp” guy, but I am more and more open to digital and Fractal - probably FM9. I very often need to use it as a traditional live set up, with some sort of cabinett/speaker. Do you have any idea of what speaker to look for? This is so new for me….
@bramesque
@bramesque 2 жыл бұрын
@@goswo You can Look for a good power amp. can be solid state like matrix, or something with tubes like a mesa 2:90. the tube amp is much heavier than the ss one. off course you need good cabs lots of choices there. the other way can be with active monitors like Headrush, Friedman, Atomic. now you would only need one speaker for mono or two for stereo. and no need for seperate power amp.
@goswo
@goswo 2 жыл бұрын
@@bramesque thanks a lot. Very kind of you 😀
@bramesque
@bramesque 2 жыл бұрын
@@goswo No Thanks. for more precise help it is often handy to tell what kind of music you make and the size of the gigs you play. there are so many options today, it is not difficult to find gear but it can be difficult to find the ultimate gear.
@davidfavaloro2034
@davidfavaloro2034 2 жыл бұрын
I own an FM3, which is my first modeler (besides the old line 6 "bean!"). When shopping last year, I ultimately decided that the primary goal is to get the best sounds possible - which, as you say, is what makes the Fractal products stand out. Definitely agree on the user interface - it's abysmal when compared to Helix and Neural. And I build all of my presets using the editor. But for live use I'm mainly just tweaking volume and EQ on these, which is fairly easy to do from the device interface.
@gregorycordina8642
@gregorycordina8642 2 жыл бұрын
As a dev / product manager - I really enjoy your user experience testing experience. This is like watching my day job!
@TheCamilocedeno
@TheCamilocedeno 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to know more about how to get into your line of work. I’m a musician/freelance audio engineer, and have a business management degree. I’ve always been interested in the process of getting products from concept to market.
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCamilocedeno My guess is you'll also need a mechanical or electrical engineering degree to appeal to the human resources managers who hire for those kind of jobs. The other way is to find a company you like and want to work for, move there, and be persistent. And hust as you did here with the original poster, try to get in touch with the people who are doing the jobs you want.
@ksukhia
@ksukhia 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCamilocedeno What city you based in?
@gregorycordina8642
@gregorycordina8642 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCamilocedeno - It is an interesting line of work. A lot of times companies are looking for people from varied backgrounds who have a keen interest in the customer's perspective (you hear Voice of Customer or Customer Empathy a lot). I would recommend two books to see if you like it first: Swipe to Unlock and The Build Trap. If after those, you are still interested, grab a PM interview book (Cracking the PM Interview - a great read) and study up. Then just fix up your resume and apply to any company that fits what you want to do. This is a game of attrition - you will probably be applying for 6 months to 100's of jobs and landing a few interviews (this is true for everyone from former PMs to new PMs) as a lot of these jobs are budget and team dependent.
@gregorycordina8642
@gregorycordina8642 2 жыл бұрын
@@brushstroke3733 - even for people who have those degrees, it is a long process if you aren't coming from a tech giant. You are basically in a war of attrition and competing budget lines where timing is the number one factor in whether you get called for an interview or passed over. If you are interested and not already a PM, I would definitely recommend Cracking the PM Interview as a good overview of the job and the interview process. It is a little longwinded, but really good at breaking down some of the standard problems you'll come up against. Also, we LOVE different perspectives (not necessarily tech)! If you don't have a team that looks like your customer base, you are most likely building a sub-par product.
@worshiptutorials
@worshiptutorials 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty spot on to my experience with Fractal. I used an Axe-FX 3 for years as my main live rig (now FM9, which is essentially the same user experience). I’ve gotten to a point where I can quickly make most any adjustment I want live on the unit itself, but it took a lot of time and a lot of repetition to get there. Fractal released an update recently that lets you map whatever controls you want to the main encoders for quick/easy access. They can be different per each preset. It makes making those live adjustments MUCH easier. But again - you have to program it ahead of time. Line 6 just 100% nailed the user interface and experience. Nobody else even comes close, including Quad Cortex (in my opinion). Thanks Rhett!
@worshiptutorials
@worshiptutorials 2 жыл бұрын
PS: ‘Cliche worship guitar sound’ 😂😂. We do more than just hyoooge verbs and delays. … sometimes 😅
@kendevries3212
@kendevries3212 2 жыл бұрын
@@worshiptutorials When? Everything sounds like Hillsong these days.
@worshiptutorials
@worshiptutorials 2 жыл бұрын
@@kendevries3212 everything?
@kendevries3212
@kendevries3212 2 жыл бұрын
@@worshiptutorials Except when I play in church. It's a jumpered Plexi AXE-FX patch with a 4x12 British Cabinet IR for me. Imagine Eric Johnson meets Van Halen. Heavenly. Although people sometimes miss the sermon due to their ears ringing. Hey, at least they aren't falling asleep! And, actually, I like a lot of Hillsong, I just don't like all the imitators.
@7777Lace
@7777Lace 2 ай бұрын
@@kendevries3212😂😂😂😂😂😂
@clownhands
@clownhands 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to replicate the sound of a tube amp pretty well, but what about the smell? None of these things are able to replicate the smell of a hot tweed amp.
@christopherweise438
@christopherweise438 2 жыл бұрын
Foo McBar - Dude.......best comment i've seen this week on any channel.
@HSet77
@HSet77 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the smell inspires better playing - as does the nitro finish smell on your Les Paul...
@christopherblair6636
@christopherblair6636 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@clarity413
@clarity413 2 жыл бұрын
after practice or show I always come to amp and smell it for a while. It similar smell like coming from yet copies :D
@GekkoGear
@GekkoGear 2 жыл бұрын
Coming soon in stores near you, the amp tube warmth car scent in two models. The classic tree model and the air conditioner clip. But wait, if you call now we will include a bonus 1/4" tube amp scented instrument cable. For a limited time only.
@DraftZJ
@DraftZJ 2 жыл бұрын
got my axe fx a little over a year ago. as someone who plays exclusively in a bedroom at the moment in limited space, it was the perfect solution for my needs, easy to dial in a good sound without cranking a real amp, easy to record, no need for a bunch of pedals, tons and tons of options, etc. I agree about the actual user interface on the axe fx being complicated, i always use the axe edit as well but that’s not a problem for me since my whole rig is in the corner of my room
@RobertBakerGuitar
@RobertBakerGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
Of all the modelers nobody can touch fractal when it comes to reverb.
@MarkPritchardGuitar
@MarkPritchardGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
100% and the Delay's.
@AudacityWorks
@AudacityWorks 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarkPritchardGuitar A lot of people would say Helix's delays are better than Fractal's, especially the newer ones. Fractal's reverbs are definitely excellent.
@KelsterVonShredster
@KelsterVonShredster 2 жыл бұрын
@@AudacityWorks the kemper reverbs and delays are also fantastic.....
@Quicksilver_Cookie
@Quicksilver_Cookie 2 жыл бұрын
You'd still have to go to discreet pedals to find the best modulation, even digital. Kemper, Fractal, Line 6 all make good digital modulation effects inside their modelers but somebody like Strymon are on a whole another level. Obviously this goes against an idea of having entire rig in one device, but it shows there's still ways to go and grow in that aspect.
@seamusmcsorley7638
@seamusmcsorley7638 2 жыл бұрын
I think Empress also deserves a mention. The ghost setting on their verb is absolutely gorgeous
@1TEDSong
@1TEDSong 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be getting one this year. I watch Leon Todd a lot and learned SO much from him and also Marco Fanton and Brett Kingsman. I love all the bells and whistles and I have tons of time to "tweak" it. I'll be running wet/dry/wet guitar onstage and using my midi keyboard and MainStage running through the fractal at the same time. HUGE I/O in the back and it the system itself will be the heartbeat in my little studio. Great machine. Good work covering this. Thanks Rhett.
@warthogstudios9784
@warthogstudios9784 Жыл бұрын
1960s 70s Vintage Marshall amps, fender twin reverbs, Roland Gp16, zoom boxes, pedals galore, I’ve had ‘‘em all. AXFXIII, is really all I need. It’s why so many top bands use Fractal. I need
@Nb0ssProductions
@Nb0ssProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Fair review Rhett. I have a Mk I Axe FX III which I bought after auditioning the competition. No reason why a weekend warrior like me should own this for monthly pub gigs - it is like bringing a Bazooka to a bar brawl. I love the fact that I can replicate guitar tones from 40+ Indie classics that we churn through. Once dialed in I would never touch the settings during set. It is essential to have the FC12 controller for my use case. I know that the audience doesn’t care , being an electrical engineer by original training I love it that I can change the “bias excursion frequency”
@JB19504
@JB19504 2 жыл бұрын
Love my AXE FX III. Had it for over two years. Lots of firmware updates. You can really do anything with it. Leon Todd and Cooper Carter are the default experts. BTW, AXE-Edit is much easier to use than the front panel. You can get the floor model, which might be better for live shows.
@mrpres17
@mrpres17 2 жыл бұрын
My fm3 has been the best money I've ever spent for guitar gear. It sounds incredible, I've owned it for 6 months and still get blown away by the tones I get from it. The amount of amazing amps, cabs, effects are insane and then you can dial them in even further with all the detailed knobs and things. It's nuts and I totally recommend it for tweakers like me or guitarist's who want the best sound possible from a modeler
@Bking7string
@Bking7string 2 жыл бұрын
Love my Axe fx3. Best piece of gear I've owned in 25 years. The tones I get make me smile every time I plug in. I prefer using axe edit, but sure front panel editing can be a learning curve.
@adamricard9410
@adamricard9410 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree it’s a curve. I’m not sure it’s really a drawback like Rhett suggests. If I’m gigging I’d create presets and scenes within the presets, dial them in before or soundcheck and theoretically I shouldn’t have much need to tweak anything from there. Worst case scenario I bring my MacBook 😂
@tompoynton
@tompoynton 2 жыл бұрын
…. it’s not a tube amp *disappears into a puff of smoke*
@MarkPritchardGuitar
@MarkPritchardGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rhett, i'm an Axe-Fx III user too, there are some shortcuts to adjust the amps and effects by double tapping the A-E encoders. I'm also into similar tones to you and have been debating over a Kemper.
@aviator_bryan
@aviator_bryan 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been gigging and recording with helix for 5 years. No question, the UI is tops. I’ve been using Fractal gear (FM3 & FM9) for about a year and a half and it’s phenomenal. I tend to do the heavy lifting with the software editor, and fine tune things with the unit. I don’t find the UI on the Fractal to be bad. While it’s not as easy as a Helix, I don’t find it to be debilitating by any means. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
@bentrigg1230
@bentrigg1230 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, Rhett. Back in my working-band days I bought an Axe-Fx Ultra (original/Mark 1). While I was blown away by the sounds (this was 2011), the interface was terrible. Nonetheless, I got the dedicated foot controller and ended up gigging it. I’d been a die-hard cranked tube amp & pedals guy up to that point. But at the level I was working at, a close-miked cab always sounded small and boxy thru the FOH, however much air it was moving on stage. This MkIII sounds breathtakingly good. Keep up the great work. Your channel is a great resource, much appreciated.
@karymwillemsen5564
@karymwillemsen5564 2 жыл бұрын
For live playing I use a Helix floor in combination with a mesa triple crown 50. I have set it up in a 4 cable method and a midi cable to switch between channels from my amp and to control the amps reverb, fx loop and solo function (on and off). This works absolutly amzing for me I have my setlist set up in the helix so that every song has his own snapshots. and when I want a clean sound with the reverb from the amp I just hit the food switch and it is instantly there. But for example if I want to switch to a lead tone with a reveb from the helix. I hit the lead snapshots, and the midi cable switches the reverb from my amp off put the amp on the lead channel and that happens instantly. Also if I put a amp model from the helix on the block from the fx loop my mesa will act as the cabinet for that ampmodel. The flexibilty of this setup is just amazing. And super easy to setup. I will never part from this.
@ChristopherOrth
@ChristopherOrth 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing to consider about having an Axe FX3 is that is is a fantastic multi-channel FX processor for synths, samplers, eurorack, etc. 4 stereo in/out and non-linear high quality FX routing puts it in the league of an Eventide H9000, but for stacks less $$. You can get far more use out of this box than just guitar processing. And when the day down the road comes that you want to "upgrade" to whatever the fresh new hotness is for your guitar rig, you can keep this in the rack as that awesome FX unit for other gear. If they marketed this device to synth players, they would be out of stock non-stop! Also, while I also mostly use the software editor for speed, I disagree that the interface is hard to use. It's actually really well designed and functional once you learn it. Compared to a guitar amp? Yeah, it's more complex. But compared to a synthesizer? Nah! Anyone who has every programmed a Roland JV series will find this box a dream to use.
@x3a3x3
@x3a3x3 2 жыл бұрын
Agree! Compared to a guitar amp and a few pedals it does feel very complicated, but any keyboard player used to programming different synths will find it actually very organized and logical to use
@markscrivener3355
@markscrivener3355 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I've used my Axe FX3 many times to process multiple instruments at the same time in a live setting - greatly reducing the gear I have to haul. I especially like using the tone match feature to create IR's for acoustic guitars, enabling a piezo saddle pickup to sound like a mic'd instrument. I think I've run everything except vocals and drums through mine. And I'd also agree, the interface is reasonably easy to use once you learn it - the performance page is particularly useful for tweaking parameters in a live setting.
@playbassken
@playbassken Жыл бұрын
We use Fractal for our live guitar and bass sound exclusively and it's a must to have either the FC6 or FC12 foot controller to get the most out of them because the unit controls themselves are more difficult if you're trying to make changes on the fly. Fractal more than makes up for this with their app and when you add the foot controller it gives you so much more than just buttons to push. The depth of options is second to none.
@warpdriveby
@warpdriveby Жыл бұрын
We are using an Axe3, our singer/rhythm owns it, but we are all blown away by what it can do. We took a bit of time to emulate our rigs, a Carvin 100w and 4x12 and my SVT-CL 4x10-1x15. We actually can't tell the real from the axe's version of them apart when A vs B-ing them with the amps miced in the booth. Me and the lead player (I'm bass) are eating our words about modelers this evening 😮. The rack controls suck though, and I don't see us ever using it live.😊
@TimOost
@TimOost 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and helps me with choosing my upgrade after the Line6 POD xt pro rack. That thing is pretty ancient now and I love to see where all this great companies have taken their modellers.
@587583922
@587583922 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always been a traditional player. Turn the amp way up. Turn the guitar down for clean. Add effects if you want. The fractal does that. At this point, there’s no other modeler I would buy. And if my fractal broke, I’d buy another one the same day. You get used to the interface if you actually use it. Or just use worse modelers. That works too.
@mastermachetier5594
@mastermachetier5594 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more with this video. I use the effects as outboard effects for all kinds of things in my studio as well. The delays and reverbs on synths and everything . The thing also is a great interfsaxd
@pangloss9
@pangloss9 2 жыл бұрын
BINGO! Any Fractal unit from the FM3 to the AxeIII is quite at home just being an external effects processor in any studio...no guitar needed. Look Ma, it makes a great computer audio interface too! 😀
@JakeTerch
@JakeTerch 2 жыл бұрын
John Petrucci does exactly this with his Mesa/Boogie rigs. He uses the AXE-FX for delay and chorus, and I think reverb too
@snapascrew
@snapascrew 2 жыл бұрын
Very respectable of you taking your time learning it before posting the review. I bought an ultra a long while ago and after working 8 hour shifts on it for a week straight I sold it. It wasn’t for me. The whole using it with a power amp into a cab thing to me just didn’t give me the results I wanted at all. Amp models that I’d owned previously didn’t sound anything like the real thing, probably was great DI but I couldn’t get a usable sound.
@JC3D
@JC3D 2 жыл бұрын
Best piece of gear I ever bought. I drooled over it for about 2 years. What I didn't expect was how great the Axe FX would work with my computer as a DAW. I use Reaper and that app works great with the AXE. Now I double rack a riff and I experiment with bus mixing. I've also got a couple loud amps and they are best for playing with a drummer in a room...2 at once is nice.
@kylehowdy
@kylehowdy 2 жыл бұрын
god I adore my axe fx 3, it's been the absolute best thing i've ever spent money on. I also LOVE the amount of detail and options the device gives me and the UI.
@PonderosaSoundStudio
@PonderosaSoundStudio 2 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@antoonhermans8953
@antoonhermans8953 2 жыл бұрын
i have an fender tonemaster deluxe reverb , that's how far i want to go with this digital /modeling amp thing , i get confused by all the options on these modelers , it's just not practical for gigging in a pub with my classicrock / blues coverband .
@GearGasms
@GearGasms 2 жыл бұрын
Nice balanced review. And I do mean review not demo. Don’t get to see much of these on channels this size. I salute you! 🤘🏻🎸
@louaguado995
@louaguado995 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I've been through so many multi effects pedals! Zoom 505, DOD tech 4, Digitech rp 50, 250, 255, Vox Tonelab, Zoom g3xn. So glad the newer ones have separate buttons to turn effects on and off without needing to scroll through patches. My biggest worry is if you're going directly into an interface or a p.a. and the unit goes down your whole rig is gone! I'm seeing more guitarists not even using actual amp's anymore. I did have to finish a gig with a modeling pedal after my tube amp blew out. But that's all I'd ever use it for, as a backup.
@IamtheFerryMan
@IamtheFerryMan 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using a Helix for about 2 years. I got an FM3 two weeks ago. Helix nails the UI. They totally blow the FM3 out of the water there. That said, once you get used to the AXE, it's not that big a deal. I do dislike the disparity between ease of use in the Editor vs. the front panel. I don't really play live so the control aspect isn't much of an issue for me and I was able to record with the FM3 with literally zero tweaking out of the box using a couple stock presets. That's a new one for me. I think the thing folks should keep in mind with any of the Axe products is yes, you can get option paralysis from everything you can tweak but you really don't have to. After some crazy experimentation, I feel like you get a better sound from the amp models when you keep it simple and tweak it like it's a normal amp. It's nice to swap tubes and diodes but not necessary.
@ozono3videos
@ozono3videos 2 жыл бұрын
I have Kemper and love to go always anywhere with my real amps on his best settings sounding really organic.
@aidantod33
@aidantod33 2 жыл бұрын
Happy New a year Rhett! Thank you for this. I knew the Axefx sounded the best, but. I would not be able to cope with its complexity. I can forget about it. My Blackstar Silverline 100watt is perfectly good enough for me. Cheers.
@spencerkoch1
@spencerkoch1 2 жыл бұрын
Looks and sounds amazing. For me, a used kemper + the tone junkie everything pack can get you almost any sound you need.
@tomulator
@tomulator 5 ай бұрын
MBritt Kemper profiles work fantastically for live applications.
@timpoole7789
@timpoole7789 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the big bands that use this (Metallica, Def Leppard..etc.) don't have to worry about tweaking it, they have roadies/techs to do it. I'm going to buy one, I think they sound incredible. Awesome review Btw
@70mcnevin
@70mcnevin Жыл бұрын
It’s always the same “Metallica, Def Leppard”. But #1 those bands are ancient now. #2 they are for convenience and continuity of sound as opposed to lugging stacks. But most guys still use a 1x12 or 1x10 and some real pedals, and mic up. That’s where the best sound comes from IMO. Metallica and Def Leppard’s tone could be copped by most modelers relatively easily, not that I’d ever care to.
@jayjaymerritt2785
@jayjaymerritt2785 Жыл бұрын
So what? They would never compromise tone. Why in the hell do you think Het is so damn guarded with his rig, impulses/exact gear? Deep down inside you know you cannot tell the difference. I've owned the big 6 in heavy amp/rock heads. There is no difference. There IS.NO.DIFFERENCE. Guys like you would nitpick a blemish on a crabs piss hole though..."Don McNevin''😂😂Man that name screams a cork sniffing douche 😂
@call2arms
@call2arms 2 жыл бұрын
I have been all across the board in the quest for tone and I found my favorites and preferences... But I also want to keep session and gig equipment to a minimum. My EVH 50 watt head and 212 cab are lighter compared to other “gig worthy” equipment, but I gotta say, bringing a an FM3 or HX Stomp centric mini board, and a PA wedge have been just amazing. I’ll definitely agree that Fractal’s on board UI is really clunky compared to Helix and by a huge margin. But there have been significant improvements where you can double press the A,B,C,D,E buttons and they’ll instantly go into the parameters of the amps, drives, and other key effects which has made on the fly changes substantially better. Still doesn’t beat turning a knob that’s right there, but the workflow has been improving. All I can say is that ever since Ive got my FM3 and now Axe FX III, is that they are phenomenal units for all types of musicians where they want pretty much limitless possibilities. Even for the guys who keep it simple. It just takes a mindset adjustment when coming up with presets and tones. You always gotta dive in with a goal in mind, and don’t stray from it, or else you’ll just do more tweaking and adjusting instead of playing which would understandably a turn off. Once I got past that, it’s definitely my number one piece of equipment even above my traditional tube amp and pedalboard.
@Deliquescentinsight
@Deliquescentinsight 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite reverb settings is the 'Grand Hall' - it gives you that enormous space but is not over the top, you can use it.
@Scott__C
@Scott__C 2 жыл бұрын
At this point, I think they all have really good sounds. It's just a matter of which UI you bond with the best and spending some time with it. To me, Helix is the best UI.
@imantisocial3179
@imantisocial3179 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably true unless you want to do something more complex than a kempers very limited signal chain allows
@ZackSeifMusic
@ZackSeifMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Helix has the easiest UI to navigate for sure, I just prefer the options and depth of the Fractal
@kikiphallin
@kikiphallin 2 жыл бұрын
With the constant updates the Helix has, I get more and more convinced I made the right choice.
@phillipsouthard8285
@phillipsouthard8285 2 жыл бұрын
@@kikiphallin as an owner of both, fractal puts out WAY more updates more frequently than Line 6 does for the Helix.
@kikiphallin
@kikiphallin 2 жыл бұрын
@@phillipsouthard8285 Thanks for the info!, what kind of updates are those?
@tylerjones9062
@tylerjones9062 2 жыл бұрын
The user interface of the axe fx is very easily learnable it takes a little time but when I went from the 2 to the 3 I didn’t even have to look at a manual the interface was planned out so well and I do all my programming on the front of the unit most of the time . Most people just don’t take the time to try because of the software
@GDawg2K2
@GDawg2K2 2 жыл бұрын
As a recording engineer from the 70s-90s. Nothing touches the FX3! I’ve worked in and at many world class studios in their prime! And the Fx3 is everything I wanted in a well stocked amp room, pedal board and FX rack! Now they started to add midi and synths! As an engineer/classic rock gtr player who spends most of his time in a Cntrl Rm, it’s all I could ask for! PS: I do have a second fx3 at home plugged into a home stereo sys! It’s been running 24/7 for 2yr! I use a Shure Wireless system with multi transmitters attached to 3 or 4 gtrs. I can walk in pick up a gtr and have sound with in seconds!
@scudmunch
@scudmunch 2 жыл бұрын
The concept I use is to be sure all programing is done before heading to a show. Never a need to adjust presets. Set up the performance tab to look like an amp front and you adjust your bass, mid, treble at the show along with volume or whatever else you need. Best machine out there. The target all others aim for!
@dickjonesify
@dickjonesify 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of good info here. I’ve run into a lot of the same things. In the amp block, don’t sleep on the Speaker tab, though! Lots of actual* tone shaping possibilities.
@dickjonesify
@dickjonesify 2 жыл бұрын
FYI, I have the FM9 and the user interface is 100% identical so don’t hold your breath there lol.
@randygomez9595
@randygomez9595 2 жыл бұрын
Of all the "flagship" multi-effects/modeler devices like this, the Helix is still my favorite. Simply because it is by far the easiest to use and has the most user friendly interface. There have just been too many times I was in the middle of a rehearsal or gig and and had to adjust something on the fly. So ease of use really counts for a lot
@coldshotblues
@coldshotblues 2 жыл бұрын
I stepped into the Fractal world a year ago with the FM3 after months of tinkering I have made it through to the other side. Lucky enough to get in under the gun to receive an FM9 before the chip shortage shut down their builds. It’s awesome and great for building a full blown pedal board even two amp setups that you can tuck under your arm. I do get the editing difficulty without the editor, but with Fractal they are constantly updating their products and software improvements are just a free download away. Would love to see them incorporate a tablet interface for easier live performance tweaks.
@GearStuffandThings
@GearStuffandThings 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the info. I’m always surprised that people even go directly with the stock stuff. You have to tweak no matter what modeler you use.
@kylehowdy
@kylehowdy 2 жыл бұрын
Also want to add, looking at the reverbs you have in parallel; you actually want to have the mix set to 100% and then use either level or input gain on the reverb block to mix to taste. Having it in parallel with the mix set to less than 100% is actually introducing more of the dry signal to the overall output. Just something I noticed watching the video. And, great vid as always.
@GSHYBR1D
@GSHYBR1D 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect! Good to know changing that in my live setup immediately. I've always seen it in some preset's but unsure what to do when setting it up myself.
@nahnotsomuch2292
@nahnotsomuch2292 2 жыл бұрын
This one tip alone just improved everything I do with the Axe FX. Thank you. This cleaned up and made every preset I've tried it with sound infinitely more clear and professional. Thanks man. Even after 2 years of owning it, I learn new stuff all the time.
@kylehowdy
@kylehowdy 2 жыл бұрын
@@nahnotsomuch2292that is freaking awesome. I'm so happy I was able to help.
@LunTwoThree
@LunTwoThree 2 жыл бұрын
I have an AX8 and love it. Even with the the new generation I don't see a need to upgrade. These units stand the test of time. You just have to use the software for editing.
@jameslane9537
@jameslane9537 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah... I've had my AX8 for three years and feel I am in a good spot. It sounds good, is highly portable and has pretty much eliminated my GAS for any new amps. I had to chuckle about Rhett's take on the AXIII interface. Going from the AX8 interface to the AXIII's is like going from DOS to Windows 7. Since AX-Edit is free, I don't think the designers expect users to really do any meaningful editing via the unit's interface. Even when I go to shows, I bring a cheap laptop in case I need to do some minor tweaking for the room.
@Guttalaser
@Guttalaser 2 жыл бұрын
I own the AxeFX II (and the MFC101 fott controller with a 4 switches extension box that i made myself and 2 Mission Engineering pedal) and totally agreed with your review on all the point you covered! My workaround about the user interface in gigs are: - the iOS version of the editor that i use on a big iPad Pro (but less big than a laptop) via a midi bluetotth adapter - the RAC12 box (1u rack) that is a midi controller with 12 encoders/push knobs and a little color lcd made by very smart french guys... so you can map to the knobs the most important control of the amps or the effects (you can map much more than 12 controls because each knob can have a "pushed" and "not pushed" function and even there are serveral "pages" of controls mapped... but in this case i'll go back to a too crowed device... so select the - say - 12 o 24 mandatory physical controls you need and you are set.) Unfortunately this RAC12 controller is discontinued - what i call "bracket scenes"... where i set the "central" version of a patch... and two + and - scenes... say... more bright... more dark. The combo of these solutions (all or just two of them) can turn the AxeFx in a more usable gig gear!
@wasp6439
@wasp6439 2 жыл бұрын
Fair comments on the usabilty and depth of functionality on the Axe III, I love the sounds but tend to only use settings I am most familar with. I have to have all my presets baked in before I dare leave the house with it, editing on the fly is not something I want to deal with! I think Fractal understand their target market, providing authentic settings so you dont have to go deep if you dont want to. 🙂
@bradenandre2298
@bradenandre2298 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I've had all of the major amp options, Kemper, Iridium, ACS1, HX Stomp, Fractal, Real Tube Amps. In my experience, it's the only one that's finally, truly fully captured the tone of the tube amps it models. Full stop, absolutely mind blowing. It comes down to whether or not you love using tube amps or not, but your tone is never compromised. Don't know how they did it, but I'm happy they did :)
@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy
@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 жыл бұрын
The Helix is amazing but you’re absolutely right about how bad the stock presets are lol
@scoobers90
@scoobers90 2 жыл бұрын
Swarms of bees for days!
@jameslane9537
@jameslane9537 2 жыл бұрын
When I was looking at the AX8 and the Helix, the thing that swayed me to Fractal (aside from Fractal's huge amp library) was hearing that the Helix's stock cabs were horrible and really needed after market IRs to make it better.
@christopherblair6636
@christopherblair6636 2 жыл бұрын
@@jameslane9537 yes I use only IR for cab and now helix + two powercab are the best music gear I have ever own
@gravsjo
@gravsjo 2 жыл бұрын
Rhett, amazing knowledge and you bring out great sweet guitar tones, and inspires, thx man Been following since that strymon deco video (and I bought the pedal, it's great and i love it)
@Jreed1235
@Jreed1235 2 жыл бұрын
Hey bro, great video as always! What are you using for your drum sounds on your recordings?
@jaymurray8776
@jaymurray8776 2 жыл бұрын
I like my Kemper Stage and being able to profile any amp out there. You just have to know how to Mic a cabinet correctly to get awesome sounds. Then some minor tweaking.
@tomulator
@tomulator 5 ай бұрын
Or just buy one of the THOUSANDS of commercially available amp profiles. They are top notch.
@TheGooseChaseMusic
@TheGooseChaseMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Jeez, yeah the effects are amazing. Coming from a GT-1000, seems like the Axe-FX platform is really the only modeling unit that's a step up, plus it's got way better amp modeling. And totally agree with you, just AB'd the effects on some other videos on the Quad Cortex, and the Axe-FX is just leagues ahead. I see an FM9 in my future.
@ClaimedEagle
@ClaimedEagle 6 ай бұрын
Boss GT1000 effects are amazing! The sounds are so clear and wide. Unfortunately I sold mine because I wanted to remember my old days cranking a tube amp in a full band. I started to collect pedals again.
@dustinvandehey9885
@dustinvandehey9885 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was considering getting one of these, but I was super concerned about it being overly complicated. I actually paid $240 for a boss katana and while it’s technically not a modeling amp, It’s super easy to use and sounds surprisingly good on stage and recorded. You just have to make sure to dial out some of the treble. Maybe I will get a kemper though at some point in the future.
@carlsalazar4490
@carlsalazar4490 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad someone did a review without having to use hi gain presets. Let’s hear the sound of a vintage AC 30 or Fender tweed amp.
@VinceGenella
@VinceGenella 2 жыл бұрын
I use Fractal for many reasons. Tone is first and most important. I feel if you’re a guitarist in 2022 part of your gig bag tools should be an old MacBook Air or some PC equivalent. I have the AxeFx-III as well as an FM3. If I have a fly gig I use a small 12x12 laptop bag that holds my FM3, an EV-5, a Mosky, all necessary cables and a MackBook Pro or an old Air. Gigging without a laptop is like playing a gig in the 80’s without zebra striped spandex! 😂 It's only a "MAJOR" problem if you make it one. After two years you should know the front panel a little better. 😜
@Andoroid
@Andoroid Жыл бұрын
I think the Axe FX 2 is actually becoming drastically under appreciated considering now you can get it in good condition for a lower price than the Helix (If you refresh reverb everyday lol) I got my Axe FX 2 XL+ in 2021 for $1200 which included the foot controller and it was *The* best investment I have Ever made as far as amp emulators go. I like it better than the Helix and most other alternatives. I know some people who refuse to buy used items but you can not go wrong with it if you can find one in good condition for a low price. After a year of gigging with it on tour it still holds up like the day it arrived, and I have no issue getting any tone I want. The user interface is *not good* but the default sounds make it worth it and it's easy to change virtually any surface effect /tone I personally usually wait until the new model is out before I buy anything so that I can save money and still get a great product that isn't obsolete
@michaelsilva3513
@michaelsilva3513 Жыл бұрын
a couple years back sold my pedals and easily bought a fm3. Steep learning curve for most people but the wealth of videos now on you tube really helped. Best tones ever, really. Especially if you need a quiet stage and use in ears.
@sametsean
@sametsean 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review, super helpful. I appreciate the clear pros and cons that you outline. I wouldn’t ever use something like this love anyway, so this could be the one for me.
@msmoniz
@msmoniz 2 жыл бұрын
Honey Bee has to be one of Tom Petty’s greatest overlooked riffs in his catalog. I always have a blast playing that riff/song on guitar.
@toddritter5638
@toddritter5638 2 жыл бұрын
instantly recognizable too!
@davidg1612
@davidg1612 2 жыл бұрын
Tom Perry?
@msmoniz
@msmoniz 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidg1612 Aw nuts! Stupid fat fingers on an iPhone! LOL! Fixed!
@joeygentile7829
@joeygentile7829 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidg1612 Yes.
@Hutchieisdutchie
@Hutchieisdutchie 2 жыл бұрын
I have a AXE-FX III and I absolutely love it. It really has everything you could want, my pedals have not been touched since I have acquired the AXE. However, I have the FC-12 and expression pedals and it is insane how much you can customize the lay out of the foot controller. I will say you can dial in a tone that you desire with pretty much any genre of music but at first it is extremely overwhelming, especially when you get into the selecting cabs. I feel like once you find you cabs for certain styles of music or cab that produce desired tones, you can really get some good tones and use out of it. I would recommend any of the fractal products, especially if you are someone who like to chase tones and play around with developing sounds.
@BurntMcgurnt
@BurntMcgurnt 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on! You gotta find your cabs and I use all stock ones but the axe fx is the only unit I've ever used were I can actually get the tones I'm hearing in my head and you really don't need axe edit I still use the 2 and the front panels not even as good as the 3 and I don't have any problems
@ChristopherOrth
@ChristopherOrth 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! I always suggest to people that they don't need to use everything just because they have it. Pick a stock rig that matches what you used to use (or always wanted to use!), and then pretend nothing else is in the box and go make music! At some point you will be comfortable with how to use it, and then maybe add a second rig. Just build out as you go, rather than trying to grok the fullness of the box all at once. That's a fools game.
@BurntMcgurnt
@BurntMcgurnt 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherOrth oh god yes I've had mine for a long time and I'll never make it through the whole unit I usually have a handful of amps that I always go back to and get on a new amp kick every once and a while I've been using the tucana lead for a few days now and its amazing
@viewoftheaskew
@viewoftheaskew 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the candid and balanced review! I'm looking at a modeler and this confirms my impressions.
@morgansprouse2562
@morgansprouse2562 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rhett, long time AxeFX III user here. Definitely agree with your assessment of the front panel. I will say that I travel with my laptop every weekend and so I just always use the editor. I will say the most I’ve been frustrated with Fractal was when they released v. 18 and it drastically changed the way my presets sounded and it’s taken me hours to get back. I will say I love my FC12 controller and they way it integrates with the unit as a whole. One of my favorite things about the rack unit is global blocks and how they allow me to sync settings (amp and drive settings) across different presets (songs).
@ken_konstantine
@ken_konstantine 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is I had the complete opposite opinion. I only used the front panel for the first few weeks with the unit and although it did take a bit to learn once I got it I was like "oh wow its so intuitive" haha.
@ookookook
@ookookook 2 жыл бұрын
Had the axe 3 over a year now and it's awesome and easy to use via Axe Edit. Editing on the unit itself is silly given how many thing you'll actually want to fine tune.
@stephenpilant7566
@stephenpilant7566 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rhett fantastic video. Question do you have a video on ear healthSpecifically towards inears? I don’t remember seeing one and I can’t find one in the video list. I’m 49 primary gig is church. Prefer to stay away from most of the halo he sounds Ha. Recently we were able to update our inner system and I’ve noticed my ears ringing although I don’t like my inner is being loud so I was wondering if there are specific frequencies that need to be pulled out of your ears for ear health reasons. Thank you for everything you do and your honesty.
@johnenglish8261
@johnenglish8261 2 жыл бұрын
Love the tweakabilety. Keep having fun 😁.
@timelmore2
@timelmore2 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Stomp, but the Helix line has too many amp options. It's a pain sorting through them all.
@tonykennedy8483
@tonykennedy8483 2 жыл бұрын
I got on the Fractal train a few years back with the AX8, I now have an AXFXIII and an FM3, and may get an FM9 in the future. Simply because they give me all I need. The amp tones, effects and options are fantastic Yes, they're very complex bits of kit, but you can keep things simple and set up great sounding basic rigs. My presets are generally very straightforward, it's just there's all this horsepower there to go nuts if I want. I find the front panel OK to work with. I had the III on my desk when I got it and used it a fair bit off of the front panel,. Once I've set up the preset I don't really do loads of tweaking on them anyway., and the editor is so much better than anything else I've tried Having had a HX Stomp I'd say there's pretty decent difference in quality of tones between the two systems. The Fractal for ME is just way better and not anywhere near as frustrating as I found the Stomp. I certainly agree that Fractal is the best in terms of options and I think it's like any piece of gear, if you know what you're doing you can get the most from it. Thankfully the Forum are super helpful and channels like Leon Todd give you all kinds of help. So some might call me a Fractal fan boy, but it's simply because they give me the results I want for the music i want to play Enjoyed your video Rhett
@payman.amini1
@payman.amini1 2 жыл бұрын
All that doesn't change the fact that it's UI sucks.
@tonykennedy8483
@tonykennedy8483 2 жыл бұрын
@@payman.amini1 It actually doesn't. If you spend time with it's fine Plus, if you've dicking around with the deep options during a gig you haven't prepped properly Always considered it common sense to know your gear
@payman.amini1
@payman.amini1 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonykennedy8483 Spending time to learn useful stuff is very good and my hobby but sometimes we have to spend time on things not because we are learning along and that knowledge will be added to our library, but it is because that stuff is not optimum is another thing which is completely the waste of time. Imagine using assembly language instead of a proper high level programming language to make a small program or even worse using machine codes. If you are not familiar with that analogy here is another example, Imagine digging a big hole using a week spoon instead of a proper pick and shovel or even better an electric hammer. Other companies have done far better job to give the user better and more effective interaction including touch screens and more logical workflows and they still are less expensive. As Rhett said the modeler and what it can achieve and sound is pretty good (even the metal monster, Metallica is using it in there concerts) but user interface is far from ideal (if you are James or Kirk from Metallica it won't bother you as you have all sort of dedicated engineers and staff and they are getting paid to make everything work but most of us don't have that luxury).
@sbanville4761
@sbanville4761 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rhett, great video. I'm still using the Axe FX II from 2012 in my studio which I love as a writing tool and for scratch guitar tracks for sessions, but I'm wondering if you could provide an opinion between the II and III (Assuming you've played through the II before). :)
@kingfisher7960
@kingfisher7960 Жыл бұрын
Theres a reason big touring acts are using axe fx3s through tube amps....it sounds just as good as the old preamps....
@facelessmule
@facelessmule 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, I have had an AxeFX2 for years and, whilst it can sound awesome, I just never found it fun and inspiring to use. Recently I've been using an ampless pedalboard setup with the Revival Drive compact as the 'amp' and the Two Notes Cab-M as the' cab' (plus a bunch of other pedals). It's nowhere near as flexible, and it probably worked out just as expensive, but it's so much more fun to play that I'm barely touching the AxeFX any more!
@SHARt_murmur
@SHARt_murmur 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with UI, as without Axe-Edit, it’s a pain; however, it’s my fav out of all the products out there as well. Good review!
@SteveAddeo
@SteveAddeo 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Helix user myself simply for the reason Rhett stated: the Fractal is just way more than I need. My Helix is also more of a routing unit to outboard pedals and amplifiers so I'm not even that concerned with the quality of it's modeling (which is still great). As someone who designs UI's professionally, none of the interfaces are great the the Axe-FX is unforgivably bad. I do have friends who use their Axe-FX to great success tho so go with Rhett's recommendation and figure out your needs before making such a big purchase.
@antman2826
@antman2826 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Which ever need does their UI development needs to be sacked. It’s so shit. They need to get the guy who designed BIAS to work for them.
@fredriksvard2603
@fredriksvard2603 2 жыл бұрын
Im a nux 300 user because helix is overkill
@43loudman
@43loudman 2 жыл бұрын
very interesting, thanks; i love your channel, i watch almost everything you share with us, i wish you had done a complete review of the distortion , and gain type effects, and all the types of stock distortion sounds available, this axe fx III unit seems very intimidating to me, i will agree, i just want to dial in a great distortion sound and jam away, so much tweaking is a headache right off the bat, i am old school and analog style knobs seem natural and intuitive to me, this thing is so complicated. definitely an engineers tool,..
@tlopez51
@tlopez51 2 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased the FM3 which just so happens to be my very first modeler. You got it right about how much unfriendly the UI is and I'd be lost if it wasn't for the fact the FM Editor makes up for the dismal user interface. On the plus side the sound from this box is definitely great and is the main reason for me getting it. First impressions do make a difference. As always, keep up the great work and many thanks for your honest review.
@Art-zs6sl
@Art-zs6sl 2 жыл бұрын
I would suggest you spend some time with the front panel. It's actually pretty simple.
@stevensalinas669
@stevensalinas669 2 жыл бұрын
I’d really love to hear you try a headrush or headrush MX5, and give your thoughts compared to the Axe FX and Helix.
@DoctorMcFarlandStudios
@DoctorMcFarlandStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Headrush for the win
@joekelley1122
@joekelley1122 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great sanity check! I bought this unit when it came out and have struggled over the years to want to use it compared to something even as simple as the HX stomp. Yes, it’s got amazing sound, but I’m a local player and don’t need to get my tone 100% like John Mayer to get the point across. Glad I’m not the only one who thinks that way!
@Allthewrongkeys821
@Allthewrongkeys821 2 жыл бұрын
Theres dozens of us!
@ferfcoach
@ferfcoach 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for this honest review, talking about sound (quality sound) amplifiers for example, do you recommend a axe fx 3 mk2 over a kemper? Thanks you!
@rmp5s
@rmp5s 11 ай бұрын
That little blurb at 11:03 is TASTY!!
@allengoeddey2719
@allengoeddey2719 2 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of anything “all in one”. I can appreciate this for what it is. I could not, for myself, justify the cost. I do love the deep dives. I liked the plexi video from the other day as well.
@brushstroke3733
@brushstroke3733 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto.
@mark130471
@mark130471 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, me as well until I actually justified the cost of my existing pedal board (the pedals, the cables, the power, the board, the effort, the inflexibility of cable routing on the fly) and worked out it was cheaper to buy an FM3. So I did. Never been happier.
@NotThatKraken
@NotThatKraken 2 жыл бұрын
The AxeFx 3 plus the FB 12 pedalboard/midi controller ($2500) costs less than a Matchless Chieftain, which is one of the amp models. With the AxeFx, you get high quality models of 100+ other amps, thousands of cabs, and hundreds of effects pedals. If your effects chain has ten pro-caliber pedals, that’s another $2000-3000 you don’t need to spend. Getting an AxeFx has pretty much ended my pedal purchasing compulsion.
@benskurbe
@benskurbe 2 жыл бұрын
If you do the math, the Axe 3 and extra controller + expression pedal more than justifies its cost when you compare it to practically any modern tube amp rig and pedalboard. You could fit an entire stereo rig with a ton of effects into one preset for half the price of that rig and it sounds just as good and weighs nothing compared to it. And you still have like a hundred more open presets.
@Newnodrogbob
@Newnodrogbob 2 жыл бұрын
Relax everyone; he said he couldn’t justify the cost “for [himself]” I happen to have a helix lt, not the fractal, but I understand what you are all saying, and I agree. However, some folks don’t need or want models of dozens of different amps, or super massive pedalboards. Some folks already have thousands of dollars in boutique pedals but don’t want to or can’t sell them off. There’s lots of reasons why somebody might not want to drop a few grand on a modeler. It doesn’t mean or imply that you didn’t make a smart choice for you.
@olredbeard420
@olredbeard420 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer my Quad cortex because of portability and the fact you can do everything on the QC without a computer. Rhett's cranked fender stack profile is actually my go to presets. It sounds amazing! I just wish they had a way to charge money for the captured so professions like Rhett and Michael Britt would get involved and make presets and captures
@zechpatrick
@zechpatrick 2 жыл бұрын
that JohnMayer-Bluesbreaker sound with your 335 is awesome...!!!
@timkopp2268
@timkopp2268 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Axe FX3 for studio and the AX8 for gigs. I find the sounds in both are awesome and nearly identical in many patches. The options do overwhelm me at times though and I’m happy to see the opinion that it deep diving into the tweaking isn’t necessary. I absolutely agree but at times I’ve thought that maybe I was shortchanging myself by not tweaking.
@jimgrill
@jimgrill 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I haven't tried a Fractal. I own a Line6 Helix and, in my experience, it's totally possible to get it to sound amazing, if you really work hard at it. The problem is that it's far easier to get it to sound like crap. I'm not 100% happy with any of my presets, and I'm not happy with any of the presets I've downloaded either. I also agree that the factory presets aren't very good. They are, however, useful for learning how the signal chains put together.
@CCH7540
@CCH7540 2 жыл бұрын
Find a used Axe FXII if you don't want to drop FXIII levels of cash and prepare to be amazed. I've owned many "real" amps in 32 years of playing, and have run a ton of rack stuff from my 80's gig rack built around a GP-8, to the next step of a Digitech GSP2120, to others including an Eleven rack, Pod HD Pro and a ton of pedals over the years. I love my Fractal. It smokes all the other processors I've had by a good margin, and on most days I'm not at all sure I could pass a blindfold test between my best presets and the best amps I've had. I absolutely love it.
@LCRLive687
@LCRLive687 2 жыл бұрын
i use a Helix HX stomp only for practice but the shifter is simply not usable even for practice its very annoying. Helix is over priced. Afx3 is underpriced.
@coppulor6500
@coppulor6500 2 жыл бұрын
@@CCH7540 ha. I started with a GP-8 and moved to a digitech 2101 : ) good to know about the fractal
@Silverjerk
@Silverjerk 2 жыл бұрын
I went through the same dilemma. I've owned the Axe FX Ultra, the II XL, and have both the Helix Floor and Helix Rack. I loved the quality of the tones out of the Axe FX, but the user experience won out for me and I kept coming back to the Helix. With good IRs, and after spending some time to dial in the tones that work best for you, the Helix is still a professional unit and I know several artists that use it in their rigs. That said, the real difference between all of these units is minimal when you put the time and effort into learning how to use them. You're never going to be in the front-row of a show saying to yourself, "Oh, that guitarist is definitely using an Axe FX." I know there are fanboys on both sides of the Helix/Axe FX fence, but real musicians don't care about brands, they care about the efficacy of tools and getting the job done, and at the end of the day that's what matters.
@emrahalpat
@emrahalpat 2 жыл бұрын
I've used the II XL on stage for about 2 years - and currently have a Kemper and Helix floorboard. The amount of tricks you could do on the Fractal is beyond the Kemper and Helix. I set the XL up so that there are 2 seperate signal chains, with multiple drive pedals, phasers, amps-IRs-reverbs etc and with a simple HAAS delay I was able to get a "2 guitarists playing" sound for live gigs and collapse into "mid" for solos. The fractal did this easily with DSP power to spare. The fractal was great but the cleans imho were a bit lacking. Tons of great drive tones but the clean amps were digitech level and needed some sort of overdrive pedal on low setting in front. The kemper - is THE best for recording work provided you get some nice profiles - but can't do the 2 signal paths thing. But having a profile with the Klon baked in running through a Neve preamp is brilliant. The helix, while plenty flexible and being a floorboard with a built in expression (I had to use a behringer fcb1010 with the fractal) it runs out of DSP power when I try to replicate my Fractal patch with 2 seperate signal paths. Still I use the helix for live work and traded the Fractal for a nice ESP Phoenix some time back.
@57kod
@57kod 2 жыл бұрын
Looking to buy just for the studio. Great review. Have you tried the Mod Dwarf? I would love to see you reviewing it.
@AstorSkywalker
@AstorSkywalker 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the difficult editing without the software, but it's exactly why I chose to buy it for studio use and not live, i didn't want a loud amp for home use. Live scenarios imo are better with an amp of your liking and your pedal board setup
@k53847
@k53847 2 жыл бұрын
So, when you are on a gig do you often decide that you need go buy new pedals and wire them in on stage or add resisters with a soldering iron while the opening act is playing? Or do you set your gear up ahead of time and then just use it?
@Henry-pj1td
@Henry-pj1td 2 жыл бұрын
I've been gigging a lot and I can tell you that I never did a gig without adjusting some parameters on my pedals, it might be gain, it might be eq but I always do, sometimes I had to use a ts808 clone as a boost, some.other it was my "high gain", overdrive depending on the venue
@michaelwilmot3162
@michaelwilmot3162 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more, plus you can set up global performance knobs for the things you might want to tweak live..gain, verb level, etc. I've had no problems getting around the front panel without going to axe-edit. It's just not hard to learn. Amazes me that Rhett hasn't learned to use the front panel after having it over 2 years
@kelmc0824
@kelmc0824 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. The sound is second to none but the user interface is a nightmare. I have an AX8 and love it but my biggest complaint is the learning curve. I wish it had a user mode that mimicked the user interface or controls of whatever pedal, effect or amp you were using. Then maybe an expert mode if you were a tweaker.
@Turboy65
@Turboy65 2 жыл бұрын
I run my Axe-FX connected to a PC (OK, a Mac, actuallly... ) and use it exclusively with the Axe-Edit software. It's a million times easier to use with Axe-Edit than it could ever be with the front panel display and controls.
@sylvainbiensur7370
@sylvainbiensur7370 2 жыл бұрын
I find easy with the pc it’s a must.
@x3a3x3
@x3a3x3 2 жыл бұрын
Got a FM3 when it first came out and just got the FM9. Coming from tube amps and pedals I was blown away at how good the Fm3 sounds live. You get used to the 3 foot switches, but I prefer the extra switches on the FM9. But it’s bigger and heavier. I could fit the fm3 on a backpack, the FM9 is twice heavier and I had to get a case. Once I dialed my sounds I hardly ever had to touch anything live. And the new updates added extra functions to the front panel so it’s a little easier to navigate it now. The user interface and the physical unit could definitely use some work, the helix is still the most elegant and user friendly unit. But as far as sound and feel I still prefer the fractal, even more than my old tube amp and pedals rig
@Shamilt3
@Shamilt3 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with you, I love my cranked dr103 and pedals, but its totally unusable in most venues or jams. I'm still on ax8, and I love it, the effects, the amp feel, and the noise floor. It's so quiet, and that's something with my strat and pedals was not quiet lol
@BlueRoomEfx
@BlueRoomEfx 2 жыл бұрын
totally agree with Rhett on the FX3's woefull interface - what I found to transform my FX3 was the FC12 floor control by adding the 4 expression pedals to the FC12 I can assign any perameter to any of the exp pedals & change their function per preset - or globally if you wanted. .....got to say tho - the menu's Rhett described as "telemetry from the space shuttle" is where you have to go to do it of course - assigning the exp pedal functions in AxeEDIT is as simple as "learn". the 'jump" functions on the FC12 for navagating & even editing on the fly make up for the confusing main panel menu system. the FC12 isn't cheap, but if you are the sort of person who wants to fiddle with your sound in a live situation - the FC12 and exp pedals may just be what you are looking for.
@MaximusM-ho4xu
@MaximusM-ho4xu 2 жыл бұрын
Just purchased the presets. You did a great job, Rhett. All VERY usable and real. No silly high gain stuff, which is just my cup of tea. You nailed those Bluesbreakers JTM 45 all the way! :) Thanks!
@70mcnevin
@70mcnevin Жыл бұрын
Purchased?
@OfirOrlinsky
@OfirOrlinsky 2 жыл бұрын
I own the FM9 (one of the lucky ones who got into the wait list on day one) and all of my last videos are recorded with the FM9. I agree about the usable sounds comment. Owned helix and kemper and most of the preset are not usable (understatement). The FM9 effects are amazing. The best out there. Sold my H9 pedals don’t need them anymore. Overall that’s the best modeler / stomp box I had ever and speaking from experience. One issue which is common to all modelers. The sounds has a bit too much high end so this needs to be modified to your liking.
@Yekzelf
@Yekzelf 2 жыл бұрын
It's not too much high end. It's because you're listening to a close mic'd sound through your monitors. The same happens when you listen to your recorded tube amp sound in a studio.
@OfirOrlinsky
@OfirOrlinsky 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yekzelf agree although the fractal modeling can compensate on that bc they are mimicking a real amp behavior.
@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy
@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed on the helix presets. The first thing I did was delete them all after hearing how they sounded. I’m still super happy with my HX Stomp as an amp modeler, though. I probably would’ve bought the axe FX FM3 if it fit more snugly on my pedalboard
@OfirOrlinsky
@OfirOrlinsky 2 жыл бұрын
Btw, regarding the UI. I completely agree with Rhett. But my opinion is that if these companies will provide a good app for either iPad or IPhone (android devices as well) this could mitigate the issue of live situation. Kemper went I that direction already by releasing their app for iPad. It’s a good step towards giving us the tools we need
@ZackSeifMusic
@ZackSeifMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my FM3 and FM9. Sold my Kempers and won't look back. I use it on the road every week and also at home in the studio. It's fantastic and gets the sound that is in my head and to the people. Great video Rhett, agreed that the interface could use some work. I have it down to a science at this point and can make changes rather quick during a gig. The new screen update with quick access parameters is great for a quick change. My band uses IEMs so it's always exactly the same tone, and everything is in one preset using scenes to get my different sounds. You don't really need access to everything during a gig, like you're not swapping IRs like real life cabs on the fly, same with amps (you're not bringing 200 amps to a gig). I just leave a separate EQ on my Output 2 signal path for my onstage FRFR or backline amp that I can make quick adjustments to during sound check. I ditched the Kemper because you're stuck with 4 fx before or after the amp and you can't re-route like the Fractal, QC or Helix. I also find the stock cabs in the Fractal to be leagues above the Line 6 IRs. I like the flexibility and the fact that everything I need is right there. It just works for ME personally.
@michaelkelly9960
@michaelkelly9960 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review! I have to agree on all points, especially the user interface on the unit itself, I literally couldn’t change anything if I needed to…BUT… I do all my set up at home on my computer, which literally gives me the most amazing sounds I feel are possible in todays world and completely eliminate any need to tinker with the front panel in a live setting. With that said, I agree with the blinding options, way too many things to think about, but on the other hand, that’s what makes it able to achieve the most amazing sounds I’ve ever heard. Now onto my biggest single complaint about the Fractal Axe FX III: while it’s a good thing that they’re in constant product development and release lots of updates, sometimes an update completely screws with every one of my presets. When you consider that I have 50 or 60 painstakingly dialed in presets that need to be reevaluated each time there's a major update, I view this as a HUGE negative. With that said, I’m also looking to sell all of my previous gear and amplifiers and just move forward with this incredible device. Thanks again for the awesome review!
@70mcnevin
@70mcnevin Жыл бұрын
As much as I enjoy the Axe FX III, I have to agree with you abou the FW updates messing with presets. That said, those FW updates are all in the name of achieving higher quality modeling. Which at this point is insane as I don't know how much better it can get. They're at 99.9%, but striving for that 0.1% more. Thats what makes them great.
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