The seawall is mentioned at the very beginning of the movie! When Mayor Don Mitchell is watching the news coverage of his debate with Bella Real it comes up

I thought the “thumb drive” part was like iconic Batman humor. I thought the “I GOT YOU FOR ASSAULTING 2 OFFICERS” “I’ll make it 3 officers” Was a good joke.

They should make a new bit where they both watch the same movie but one watches the first half and the other watches the last half. Then they take turns tell the other what happened in their half.

“The mask comes off and they’re like ‘I’m just a nobody or something or whatever it is’” is a great encapsulation of Mason missing so much and kind of the entire point of the third act. The guy says “I’m vengeance” which just reinforces what Riddler told Batman earlier, which is that Batman inspired him and they were doing similar things for similar reasons: using their anger and loneliness to go out and inspire fear through “focused violence.” That little comment in combo with the Riddler’s speech earlier is what proves to Bruce he needs to totally rethink his approach to Batman and what he can mean to Gotham as a symbol.

The reason it becomes a different kind of Batman movie toward the end is because Batman is changing. He's realizing he has to change. That beating the shit out of criminals every night isn't accomplishing what he wants to accomplish, and he has to reset his Batman goals. By the end, he's realized that it's about helping people, not just feeding his own vengeance, and that it's as important for ordinary citizens to trust him, as it is for criminals to fear him. The film has to shift, because we're watching a vigilante take the first tentative step toward becoming a hero.

The Batmobile stalling is kinda like him playing chicken with the Penguin and getting them to leave to protect Catwoman and Gordon

as someone who lives in scotland it’s very funny seeing international audiences say how much they love how grimey and dark gotham is and everyone here said “yeah that’s glasgow”

Just letting you know that The Batman is my new favorite comic book film and if you say any less than it's the best one ever I will rain down upon you a hellfire the likes of which you could never fathom

I think the Dark Knight will always be more popular because Heath gave an iconic performance but I think both movies are masterpieces. So much of this movie felt ripped right out of a graphic novel and an Arkham game. My only issues are minor nitpicks.

I'm on record saying they should make the next movie less realistic but one thing I'd like to see is the magic tech contact lenses evolve so that they make Robbat's eyes white.

Colin Farrell really should be in more comic book movies. Just like in DareDevil, he was clearly the one having the most fun, and you could really see it in his performance.

This rendition of Batman deserves the hype that has been building around it. The Batman is a unique blending of source material that really dives into Batman as a detective. Robat, Zoe, and co brought their A game, am I bloody right?

I just found out today my 16 year old lab is going to be put down Friday. It’s lame but hearing you guys playing with the dog made me cry.

This is my first video to listen to on this channel. What a joy and laughter filled time.

I now demand a segment where James talks to himself reviewing movies. Maso just sits and watches.

I thought RoBat BattinBats movie was great just for Heath Ledgers performance alone.

42:55 - I think the jerking movement was strategic. Tying not to spoil anything, Batman was in a situation where others were in imminent danger. When he started the Batmobile, the bad-guys froze, but what he wanted them to do was disburse and leave the area, which happened when they saw the jerking movement. My favorite part of the movie was when Batman was forced to jump of a really tall building and you see that he is still not totally comfortable with that. For a moment he hesitates then finally jumps. This shows that he is still a very young Batman and has some things to work out. I enjoyed seeing the rough landings throughout the movie and moments where he wasn't totally in control. Hope to see him address some of these issues in the sequel, showing a progression in his skillset.

it's weird how the squirrel suit is more realistic than a nolan memory fabric-cape but also goofier and more gadget-y. it's such a cool mixture of realism and lack of shame about comicbook weirdness.

The movie had humor. People are just used to them pausing the movie at this point for quippy joke time that doesn’t work in the moment. This movie used real world humor that fit the occasions and character at the time.

Nick Mason’s ability to miss the forrest for the trees is unparalleled

After seeing this a second time, the entire third act is definitely set up throughout the film. It's just done with a subtle hand. Something we're honestly not used to in Batman movies. I love the Nolan entries, but they're as subtle as a brick to the face. This being a mystery and procedural, that kind of subtlety is much more appropriate here. When you pick up the details...the mentions of the seawall toward the beginning of the film, the comments on Riddler's video talking about explosives...it definitely doesn't come out of nowhere. In a whodunit, the guarded secret is the killer's identity...but we know it's the Riddler, so the mystery here is the full scope of his plan. And the movie gives us hints toward that...but like any good mystery, it also distracts us from those hints.

I'm so glad you finally managed to squeeze in your highly anticipated Snake Eyes review

Honestly the best thing about the Batman was that they actually showed him doing detective work other than just running test on a computer for the answer, and sure he made mistakes but at least it wasn’t mistakes that were intentional to throw the case over because then again this is still a batman trying to be “The Batman” Gotham needs both mentally and physically

After so many years since the classic Batman v Superman episode, I’m very excited to listen to the fellas talk about a Bats movie. We’ve come full circle.

The story at the heart of this film surprised me. Batman starts consumed by his injustice, he is vengeance. He pushes everyone away, even Alfred, focusing 100% on his mission. This is the batman I thought I wanted to see. But this film did more, it showed me (and bruce) that this isn't enough, Batman is more than a vigilante seeking vengeance through creating fear in criminals. It does this on a very personal level, by making Bruce come face to face with people just like him. This is why the masked goons were important at the end, precisely because u don't see thier faces. They are the faceless victims of past trauma hiding behind a mask of vengeance, just like him. And with this he realises that this isn't enough, just like these goons he won't change anything like this. He needs to be more. This was a charcter film about The Batman, that has not been done before. I feel like after watching this, I understand who Batman is more, and I say this as a lifelong Batman nerd. Best Batman ever, 2nd best film based on Batman As always, amazing podcast, keep up the funnies

I love how thorough y'all's understanding of the Alien movies is. It's refreshing and somewhat unexpected.

My mate was in Liverpool when they filmed it, said Robert Pattinson did not blink for 4 hours, even when eating and smiling!! Great movie

Best "first" Batman movie, better than Begins and the other firsts. Loved everything except the Joker which had zero place in this. If had any criticisms, Batman was waaaay too bulletproof. Its fine if it was one or two bullets, but he was taking entire magazines. I don't even think the actually bulletproof-ness was the issue, but it was how he completely relied on it to stop bullets, literally walking in front of multiple armed men who are unloading dozens of bullets a second. But hey, it was still pretty badass. Otherwise, loved everything

Funny that you mentioned Saw, I actually made a fake Batman trailer 5 years ago which pretty much summed up this movie. I even called it “Saw Vengeance” 😂

with respect to the soundtrack track titles, Batman Begins' tracks were all just the Latin names for different types of bats lol

I don't at all think that the movie was ever going to end with just Batman catching Riddler. Clearly there was more to come. Did they have to go as big as Gotham being flooded? Maybe not. But Batman having to thwart an assassination attempt on the woman running for mayor felt like a natural conclusion to me. I was also surprised that once Riddler was captured, he was never broken out in this movie. What totally makes the third act for me is the scene where Batman lights the flare and leads the citizens to safety. That was absolutely Batman to me, and earned in this movie.

Mason wanting the riddler goons to be known characters (thugs, cops, etc) completely misses the point the movie is making about how random, ordinary people will do extreme things due to feeling lonely, angry and like they want to be part of something greater… just like Riddler *and* Batman!

*The guy was the guy from the funeral. Also that guy and the guy that got kicked out both had in the same green top*

I loved the Hush tease and the ties to the long Halloween

I am glad you guys loved it as much as I did! The movie would have been about half an hour shorter if Batman walked just a tad faster haha I can see it being because he is so exhausted the entire time that he just doesn't have the energy to move quicker when he doesn't need to.

Keoghan = the word "own" with a "q" sound before it

Delay that goddamn Snake Eyes review one more time and I'll start sending riddles over to James and Maso's houses

58:05 maso is denied puppy and it was heartbreaking I demand dog pics posted on your Twitter James I wanna see that beautiful pup

I strongly disagree. You can’t really take anything out. Each act builds upon the next and the moment Riddlers plan is realized (Arkham) the tension is steaming hot! Loved this film and loved the third act.

The Batman met all of my expectations. So good! Loved the detective focus, nothing superfluous, batmusclecar, performances, no more Mr. Sparkle talk, and that pne Nirvana song.....that I admittedly love. antastic, well done Reeves

I'm gonna take what Matt Reeves said at face value and believe that the Joker won't be a villain in the sequel. I just think it's too soon in terms of the real world, as well as the fact that we kinda have an oversaturation of Jokers right now. Heath Ledger set the gold standard, and ever since then we've gotten Suicide Squad Joker, Joker Joker, and then Gotham Joker, and also apparently Batwoman Joker. There are too many Jokers! That's not even counting Persona 5 Joker! It's also very likely they're gonna continue the Nolanverse's tradition of 2 villains per film (Scarecrow and Ra's al ghul, Joker and Two-Face, Bane and Talia). You could argue that there were actually 4 villains in the Batman (Falcone, Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman), but in terms of the story, not really. Catwoman is in no way a villain, and Penguin was mainly an informant to Batman; he wasn't pulling any of the strings behind the conflict of the movie. So really the villains of this film were Falcone and Riddler. I think a fun pairing for the next set of films (not necessarily the immediate sequel) would be Penguin and Mr. Freeze. That would just be funny, but also it would make sense if at this point Penguin would be increasing his foothold on the city by investing in more and more black market goods. Maybe Mr. Freeze is conducting research that benefits Penguin and so Penguin decides to fund his research, but at the same time might be blackmailing Mr. Freeze to work for him as a sort of goon as well. At the core of it, this pairing would illuminate Batman to the fact that many criminals are themselves victims and that many lack the luxury of choice, instead being forced by circumstance to commit crime. For Penguin, the obvious cinematic influences would be mobster films such as Scarface, The Godfather, and Goodfellas. Essentially Penguin would be born and raised into a culture of crime, leaving him barely any resources to reject crime in his life. As for Mr. Freeze, he would be forced into a life of crime due to an abysmal healthcare system that would leave his wife dying and vulnerable, and he in mounds and mounds of debt. Another pair I think could work would be Hush and the Court of Owls. At this point in Batman's journey, I believe he will have found or is finding success in helping Gotham through the Wayne name as opposed to Batman's methods. With Bruce Wayne back in the spotlight, and the common belief that Thomas Wayne caused the killing of Edward Elliot, Thomas Elliot will try to enact his revenge. At the same time, The Court of Owls are seeing their control of the city slip because of Batman and Bruce's efforts. I've yet to work out the plot, but the primary goal of the two villains would be to question and oppose Batman as a symbol of hope, like how Falcone and Riddler made Bruce question himself as a symbol of vengeance.

41:01 bathroom joke, bits before that is great

"Did he stall the batmobile" LOL That's what I thought too but I think it was just a lurch to scare the criminals. Anyway, this was for me the best Batman movie from a visual perspective, Reeves is turning into a great director. However, story-wise I love the idea of Batman going film noir but then it goes wacko in the final act, shoe horning in The Joker, the big flood, a police officer who is likely going to be Gordon's side kick during the show etc. It just feels tacked on.

My best friend hated it, my brother didn't like it, and I loved it. It definitely isn't a perfect movie but it's about as Batman as a Batman movie has been

My favourite idea for a sequel would be Black Mask + Clayface. If RobatBatinbat's first outing is Se7en, then the sequel could be The Thing, with the Dark Knight constantly trying to figure out who/where the murderer is, and not being able to trust anyone around him. And classic Black Mask is a better version of Hush.

I'm so glad Dog Time was timestamped

loved this movie. Best Batman movie to date overall 🙂 but he is to bulletproof. Takes the tension out of the fights. But really looking forward to the follow up.

THAT was a LOT of BATMAN, objectively and thematically. Robat Battinbat spent more time in the suit on-screen than every actor short of Adam West. And even the absence of Bruce Wayne turned out to be a significant plot point. Totally worth the hype. Also, every episode should feature Dog Time.

46:00 thank you for pointing out the track titles lol

I agree with Mason, the whole movie I was reacting “that’s like Arkham City, that’s like Arkham City”

I LOVE when James' dog comes in and Mason gets completely lost in petting the dog. As a dog mama, I get it. Dogs are better than people :)

The sea wall is actually briefly mentioned in a poster in the back when the riddler kills the mayor, hard to see with how dark it is

I was under the impression the Riddler's henchmen/doubles were other orphans like him who'd connected up after becoming disenfranchised. They were all kind of a counter to Bruce Wayne/Batman in being orphans denied any opportunities.

The last act is kinda integrated in the rest of the movie cuz we see lots of protesters agreeing with the riddler a few times. Including at the funeral. I do think it was always the plan for him to have a following.

i’m excited for the i am legend sequel! if handled correctly it could be great! I always loved the movie when i was younger because i never read the book and just thought it was an awesome zombie like sad apocalypse movie.

I’m pretty sure the guy who plays Tim Drake in Titans and also the boy with the half skull face paint in this, is also referred to as Tim in the movie, I turned to my friend and said I’m pretty sure they just called him Tim, as in Tim Drake!

The Zippy cameo was epic. Will he be in Multiverse of Madness too?

It's certainly been the best DC movie in a long time.

My sophomore year of high school I would brood around listening to something in the way, so this movie was basically made for me

The scene where Batman goes to enter the crime scene and has to kinda push through all the cops reminds me of a similar scene in The Silence of the Lambs

i would like to point out that the penguin blows up a motorway and they just let him away with it.

If I had the time, I'd definitely put together that book of all of the 'What do you think the story was?' synopses.

Great movie, but has some problems. It's too long. The third act drags, I felt there were three or so endings hidden in it. The flooding felt wacky compared to the Riddler's other grounded actions. The villain is great, but the fact he revealed himself and Bruce didn't even try to find out his identity by himself was disappointing. The Penguin was interesting, but his plot armor was ridiculous. Dude was caught producing drugs, had a body in one of his cars, worked with mafia, caused a huge car chase that had to kill at least a few people and they just... left him!?

Just a personal theory regarding WHY Colin Farrell as Penguin. If I recall they were originally eyeing Jonah Hill for the role, who supposedly asked for a relatively large paycheck and separated from the project after not being able to come to a compromise. The details of that situation I certainly don't know but I do know that Jonah Hill was in decent shape physically at the time. Leads me to believe they MAY have already been pushing putting HILL in prosthetics in order to create a more comic accurate look for the character, and THAT may indeed have been what led to him asking for what was supposedly an unreasonably large paycheck. I couldn't argue either side to be wrong for their decisions in such a scenario. Now, imagine your Penguin actor just dropped out of your Batman production because he was resistant to the idea of portraying an overweight character BUT, and here's the theory part, you've already made the overweight prosthetic mock-ups. At that point you can hire whoever doesn't mind wearing it in order to play a legendary over-the-top personality of a character. Do correct me if anyone knows better details but, from the outside looking in, that was the idea I gathered.

Thanks for your weird, awesome, always funny take on Robat the Batenbat. You guys always rock! I enjoyed the movie, and only wish the action sequences had been just slightly adjusted to make Batman less bulletproof and more easily wounded. Everything else I loved though. The batmobile specifically had me in fits of excitement. It's cool that in-universe it also has an alternate electric engine so it can run silently if he needs it to.

Brad Pitt is in the new jungle movie with channings Tatum. The trailer just came out last week

He pulled a parachute out at the last moment in that glider scene

After a goog there is only 27 Kmarts left in the US, Six of which are in New York. For a reference I am in Kentucky and the one by me closed 6 years ago

@56:59 still didn't get to see that that one gauntlet on his one arm. Does anyone else know, the right arm I think

It was filmed in Liverpool not far from were I live.

Talking about the music on this movie, have anyone notice that the batman theme is one note way to be the darth vader theme? :D

There's a scene earlier in the movie, where if you have the ability to pause, you can see a person looking out of a window in the building across the street, and that person is the Riddler.

Loved this movie. I know there’s mixed feelings in the show Gotham but they really did a good job in how they portrayed Gotham itself. Definitely got the same vibes and more.

1:28:21 *_In Maso's defense (even though it's not what he meant)_* George Miller is credited as not only the director of Fury Road but also as a co-producer

I was listening to this at work and then I felt like I was going to explode for no reason.

We definitely need more of Zippy time in the podcast

I like to imagine it's Tom Hanks in Cloud Atlas telling the legend of the exploding man.

Ermmm James he did install a parachute that’s what got caught on the bridge 😅

Aunty Donna Moving Car Podcast was a masterpiece

I honestly reckon it’s the best Batman movie

Stephen Merchant as Mr. Freeze in this universe would play really well I think

It’s Maude Apatow who is in Euphoria - her sister Iris is in The Bubble

59:50 I just saw this movie and I know I'm so late but there's a point during the riddler goon fight where he's fighting a guy and he directs the shot from a rifle at someone else. Necessarily dead? No. But definitely could've been.

"Not once, not one time" 🤣🤣🤣the greatest movie of all time

Yeah, Maso's got it. In the I AM LEGEND book, he's a lone survivor hunkered down in suburbia, working his way through figuring out why all the various tropes (garlic, crucifixes, holy water etc) actually work on the vampires. The big reveal is essentially that the vampire society is terrified of HIM, because to them he's this legendary monster who comes when they sleep and murders them. It's such a brilliantly simple pretence and yet NONE of the adaptations have actually done it properly.

*The failing sea wall is on one of the newspapers riddler has taped up*

HEY! Planet Broadcasting is down! I need to download old episodes to get through my nights!

I think the guy sitting at the funeral that says " don't I know you?" Is Joe Chill

1:08:00 I completely agree about the ending. It felt disconnected thematically from the rest of the movie. The riddler had been a force to overturn corruption throughout the film... In a way he and Batman were trying to achieve the same goals through vastly different means. But in the end, the Riddler just turns himself in because his end goal was to flood the entire city? This had nothing to do with fixing corruption, instead it was just a bland terror attack that felt baseless. Plus it was targeted against a hopeful new Mayor who opposed the same evils the Riddler and Batman had. It felt utterly simplistic and easy for a film that was all about moral grays and exploring true systemic wrongdoing.

judging by the makeup quality of penguins face i’m very intrigued by what jokers face may look like

Reverse the egg polarity! Those are sure some cool dudes.

We got we got this covers covered really upsets my eyes everytime I watch this podcast

SPOILERS . . . . . . . . . . the theater I was in went nuts at the first Batman reveal, again at the Batmobile reveal, and again at the upside down shot, at a handful of other scenes Batman doesn't solve all the riddles, he gets the final one wrong and doesn't stop the explosions or prevent the flood I think Riddler is more based on the real-life Zodiac killer than the film Zodiac. His initial reveal made me audibly gasp my only nitpick is that the joker scene was completely unnecessary. I didnt dislike it, just didn't really add anything to the film for me

Also with the Riddler fan group, I feel its purpose was to show Batman that he was essentially no different. The goon saying, “I am vengeance” kind of showed Batman that he was completely off about being Batman solely for the fear.

He 1000% stalls it and that made me laugh along with the thumb drive joke 😅

@38:50 I was thinking when Bruce especially where he goes into the country as Bruce, that emo haircut of his, His hair is constantly in his eyes, didn't they get in the way of him being detective/ being Batman / paying attention where he is walking 😂😆😂 Like I had that emo haircut in 2009 , my hair was constantly not just in my eyes but wld also poke my eyes.

The big fuel tanker explosion? You telling me not one person died there accidentally 😂

Maybe it was just a glow stick 😂 or Edward Cullen’s venom 🤣👏🏽

@51:43 not just Colin Farrell make-up, ur sounds so different. He's got an Irish accent and abit of high pitch sound than this penguin. Can't believe that voic4 was coming out of his mouth, that interrogation scene, blew me away!

Barry Keoghan the pronunciation is Barry Ke-yo/hanne